Re: info: quickcheck free for opensource projects
Agreed, we should get this going as soon as we can. How does the quickcheck CI server work with standard eunit tests? Do we need to do something to make sure only quickcheck tests work? Or do we just run all the tests? -Russell On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Benoit Chesneau bchesn...@gmail.com wrote: cool. Not sure what could be the roadmap on this. Like I see it maybe the first thing to do is to integrate the changes on the test suite from Alexander. Then we can probably add quickcheck test on each each module using the macros to define if they are executed or not? - benoit On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Jan Lehnardt j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 Jun 2014, at 19:39 , Russell Branca chewbra...@apache.org wrote: I'm a huge +1 to this. I've been trying to figure out a way to get us able to use the full version of QuickCheck for a while now. John Hughes has been hinting that they found a way to make the licensing work for open source, and it seems like this is it. The full version of QuickCheck has some sweet features for testing out state machines and also the PULSE scheduler which randomizes the execution of processes to help discover race conditions: http://www.quviq.com/features.html To clarify the questions about another CI server, I believe the reason for this being released as a CI server is as a way to use the full version of QuickCheck without them having to distribute it. Ah, apologies for missing that particular context. I’m still +100 on this :) Best Jan -- -Russell On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Jan Lehnardt j...@apache.org wrote: QC is not a CI tool. It’s more like an additional layer of more thorough unit testing that could (depending on their terms) run by our existing CI solutions. I’d be in favour of looking at how we can make it work! Best Jan -- On 11 Jun 2014, at 13:06 , Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl wrote: n Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Benoit Chesneau bchesn...@gmail.com wrote: quickcheck made quickcheck-ci available for free for open-sources projects: http://quickcheck-ci.com/ It would be interresting to use it for couchdb imo. Thoughts? If we still use Travis, we already have 2 CI instances, and they have not been able to prevent drawn out release processes like the one for 1.6.0. Unless we somehow think this will magically solve all our CI needs, I'd prefer to instead spend time on improving other parts of the CI we already have. Cheers, Dirkjan
Re: info: quickcheck free for opensource projects
cool. Not sure what could be the roadmap on this. Like I see it maybe the first thing to do is to integrate the changes on the test suite from Alexander. Then we can probably add quickcheck test on each each module using the macros to define if they are executed or not? - benoit On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Jan Lehnardt j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 Jun 2014, at 19:39 , Russell Branca chewbra...@apache.org wrote: I'm a huge +1 to this. I've been trying to figure out a way to get us able to use the full version of QuickCheck for a while now. John Hughes has been hinting that they found a way to make the licensing work for open source, and it seems like this is it. The full version of QuickCheck has some sweet features for testing out state machines and also the PULSE scheduler which randomizes the execution of processes to help discover race conditions: http://www.quviq.com/features.html To clarify the questions about another CI server, I believe the reason for this being released as a CI server is as a way to use the full version of QuickCheck without them having to distribute it. Ah, apologies for missing that particular context. I’m still +100 on this :) Best Jan -- -Russell On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Jan Lehnardt j...@apache.org wrote: QC is not a CI tool. It’s more like an additional layer of more thorough unit testing that could (depending on their terms) run by our existing CI solutions. I’d be in favour of looking at how we can make it work! Best Jan -- On 11 Jun 2014, at 13:06 , Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl wrote: n Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Benoit Chesneau bchesn...@gmail.com wrote: quickcheck made quickcheck-ci available for free for open-sources projects: http://quickcheck-ci.com/ It would be interresting to use it for couchdb imo. Thoughts? If we still use Travis, we already have 2 CI instances, and they have not been able to prevent drawn out release processes like the one for 1.6.0. Unless we somehow think this will magically solve all our CI needs, I'd prefer to instead spend time on improving other parts of the CI we already have. Cheers, Dirkjan
Re: info: quickcheck free for opensource projects
n Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Benoit Chesneau bchesn...@gmail.com wrote: quickcheck made quickcheck-ci available for free for open-sources projects: http://quickcheck-ci.com/ It would be interresting to use it for couchdb imo. Thoughts? If we still use Travis, we already have 2 CI instances, and they have not been able to prevent drawn out release processes like the one for 1.6.0. Unless we somehow think this will magically solve all our CI needs, I'd prefer to instead spend time on improving other parts of the CI we already have. Cheers, Dirkjan
Re: info: quickcheck free for opensource projects
QC is not a CI tool. It’s more like an additional layer of more thorough unit testing that could (depending on their terms) run by our existing CI solutions. I’d be in favour of looking at how we can make it work! Best Jan -- On 11 Jun 2014, at 13:06 , Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl wrote: n Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Benoit Chesneau bchesn...@gmail.com wrote: quickcheck made quickcheck-ci available for free for open-sources projects: http://quickcheck-ci.com/ It would be interresting to use it for couchdb imo. Thoughts? If we still use Travis, we already have 2 CI instances, and they have not been able to prevent drawn out release processes like the one for 1.6.0. Unless we somehow think this will magically solve all our CI needs, I'd prefer to instead spend time on improving other parts of the CI we already have. Cheers, Dirkjan signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: info: quickcheck free for opensource projects
I'm a huge +1 to this. I've been trying to figure out a way to get us able to use the full version of QuickCheck for a while now. John Hughes has been hinting that they found a way to make the licensing work for open source, and it seems like this is it. The full version of QuickCheck has some sweet features for testing out state machines and also the PULSE scheduler which randomizes the execution of processes to help discover race conditions: http://www.quviq.com/features.html To clarify the questions about another CI server, I believe the reason for this being released as a CI server is as a way to use the full version of QuickCheck without them having to distribute it. -Russell On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Jan Lehnardt j...@apache.org wrote: QC is not a CI tool. It’s more like an additional layer of more thorough unit testing that could (depending on their terms) run by our existing CI solutions. I’d be in favour of looking at how we can make it work! Best Jan -- On 11 Jun 2014, at 13:06 , Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl wrote: n Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Benoit Chesneau bchesn...@gmail.com wrote: quickcheck made quickcheck-ci available for free for open-sources projects: http://quickcheck-ci.com/ It would be interresting to use it for couchdb imo. Thoughts? If we still use Travis, we already have 2 CI instances, and they have not been able to prevent drawn out release processes like the one for 1.6.0. Unless we somehow think this will magically solve all our CI needs, I'd prefer to instead spend time on improving other parts of the CI we already have. Cheers, Dirkjan
Re: info: quickcheck free for opensource projects
On 11 Jun 2014, at 19:39 , Russell Branca chewbra...@apache.org wrote: I'm a huge +1 to this. I've been trying to figure out a way to get us able to use the full version of QuickCheck for a while now. John Hughes has been hinting that they found a way to make the licensing work for open source, and it seems like this is it. The full version of QuickCheck has some sweet features for testing out state machines and also the PULSE scheduler which randomizes the execution of processes to help discover race conditions: http://www.quviq.com/features.html To clarify the questions about another CI server, I believe the reason for this being released as a CI server is as a way to use the full version of QuickCheck without them having to distribute it. Ah, apologies for missing that particular context. I’m still +100 on this :) Best Jan -- -Russell On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Jan Lehnardt j...@apache.org wrote: QC is not a CI tool. It’s more like an additional layer of more thorough unit testing that could (depending on their terms) run by our existing CI solutions. I’d be in favour of looking at how we can make it work! Best Jan -- On 11 Jun 2014, at 13:06 , Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl wrote: n Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Benoit Chesneau bchesn...@gmail.com wrote: quickcheck made quickcheck-ci available for free for open-sources projects: http://quickcheck-ci.com/ It would be interresting to use it for couchdb imo. Thoughts? If we still use Travis, we already have 2 CI instances, and they have not been able to prevent drawn out release processes like the one for 1.6.0. Unless we somehow think this will magically solve all our CI needs, I'd prefer to instead spend time on improving other parts of the CI we already have. Cheers, Dirkjan signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: info: quickcheck free for opensource projects
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Russell Branca chewbra...@apache.org wrote: To clarify the questions about another CI server, I believe the reason for this being released as a CI server is as a way to use the full version of QuickCheck without them having to distribute it. Given all this further context, all objections withdrawn. Cheers, Dirkjan
