Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Zookeeper 3.4

2021-12-11 Thread Yang Wang
After FLINK-10052[1], which was merged in 1.14.0, rolling upgrading
ZooKeeper will not affect the running Flink application.

1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10052


Best,
Yang

Chesnay Schepler  于2021年12月7日周二 下午4:37写道:

> Since this is only relevant for 1.15, if you intend to migrate to 1.15
> close to the release, then somewhere around February.
>
> The only resource I could find for migrating Zookeeper is this FAQ:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZOOKEEPER/Upgrade+FAQ
>
> On 07/12/2021 04:02, Dongwon Kim wrote:
>
> When should I prepare for upgrading ZK to 3.5 or newer?
> We're operating a Hadoop cluster w/ ZK 3.4.6 for running only Flink jobs.
> Just hope that the rolling update is not that painful - any advice on this?
>
> Best,
>
> Dongwon
>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 3:22 AM Chesnay Schepler 
> wrote:
>
>> Current users of ZK 3.4 and below would need to upgrade their Zookeeper
>> installation that is used by Flink to 3.5+.
>>
>> Whether K8s users are affected depends on whether they use ZK or not. If
>> they do, see above, otherwise they are not affected at all.
>>
>> On 06/12/2021 18:49, Arvid Heise wrote:
>>
>> Could someone please help me understand the implications of the upgrade?
>>
>> As far as I understood this upgrade would only affect users that have a
>> zookeeper shared across multiple services, some of which require ZK 3.4-? A
>> workaround for those users would be to run two ZKs with different versions,
>> eventually deprecating old ZK, correct?
>>
>> If that is the only limitation, I'm +1 for the proposal since ZK 3.4 is
>> already EOL.
>>
>> How are K8s users affected?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Arvid
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 2:00 PM Chesnay Schepler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ping @users; any input on how this would affect you is highly
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> On 25/11/2021 22:39, Chesnay Schepler wrote:
>>> > I included the user ML in the thread.
>>> >
>>> > @users Are you still using Zookeeper 3.4? If so, were you planning to
>>> > upgrade Zookeeper in the near future?
>>> >
>>> > I'm not sure about ZK compatibility, but we'd also upgrade Curator to
>>> > 5.x, which doesn't support ookeeperK 3.4 anymore.
>>> >
>>> > On 25/11/2021 21:56, Till Rohrmann wrote:
>>> >> Should we ask on the user mailing list whether anybody is still using
>>> >> ZooKeeper 3.4 and thus needs support for this version or can a
>>> ZooKeeper
>>> >> 3.5/3.6 client talk to a ZooKeeper 3.4 cluster? I would expect that
>>> >> not a
>>> >> lot of users depend on it but just to make sure that we aren't
>>> >> annoying a
>>> >> lot of our users with this change. Apart from that +1 for removing it
>>> if
>>> >> not a lot of user depend on it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> Till
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 11:03 AM Matthias Pohl <
>>> matth...@ververica.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Thanks for starting this discussion, Chesnay. +1 from my side. It's
>>> >>> time to
>>> >>> move forward with the ZK support considering the EOL of 3.4 you
>>> already
>>> >>> mentioned. The benefits we gain from upgrading Curator to 5.x as a
>>> >>> consequence is another plus point. Just for reference on the
>>> >>> inconsistent
>>> >>> state issue you mentioned: FLINK-24543 [1].
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Matthias
>>> >>>
>>> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24543
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:19 AM Chesnay Schepler <
>>> ches...@apache.org>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>>  Hello,
>>> 
>>>  I'd like to drop support for Zookeeper 3.4 in 1.15, upgrading the
>>>  default to 3.5 with an opt-in for 3.6.
>>> 
>>>  Supporting Zookeeper 3.4 (which is already EOL) prevents us from
>>>  upgrading Curator to 5.x, which would allow us to properly fix an
>>>  issue
>>>  with inconsistent state. It is also required to eventually support
>>> ZK
>>> >>> 3.6.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Zookeeper 3.4

2021-12-07 Thread Chesnay Schepler
Since this is only relevant for 1.15, if you intend to migrate to 1.15 
close to the release, then somewhere around February.


The only resource I could find for migrating Zookeeper is this FAQ: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZOOKEEPER/Upgrade+FAQ


On 07/12/2021 04:02, Dongwon Kim wrote:

When should I prepare for upgrading ZK to 3.5 or newer?
We're operating a Hadoop cluster w/ ZK 3.4.6 for running only Flink jobs.
Just hope that the rolling update is not that painful - any advice on 
this?


Best,

Dongwon

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 3:22 AM Chesnay Schepler  
wrote:


Current users of ZK 3.4 and below would need to upgrade their
Zookeeper installation that is used by Flink to 3.5+.

Whether K8s users are affected depends on whether they use ZK or
not. If they do, see above, otherwise they are not affected at all.

On 06/12/2021 18:49, Arvid Heise wrote:

Could someone please help me understand the implications of the
upgrade?

As far as I understood this upgrade would only affect users that
have a zookeeper shared across multiple services, some of which
require ZK 3.4-? A workaround for those users would be to run two
ZKs with different versions, eventually deprecating old ZK, correct?

If that is the only limitation, I'm +1 for the proposal since ZK
3.4 is already EOL.

How are K8s users affected?

Best,

Arvid

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 2:00 PM Chesnay Schepler
 wrote:

ping @users; any input on how this would affect you is highly
appreciated.

On 25/11/2021 22:39, Chesnay Schepler wrote:
> I included the user ML in the thread.
>
> @users Are you still using Zookeeper 3.4? If so, were you
planning to
> upgrade Zookeeper in the near future?
>
> I'm not sure about ZK compatibility, but we'd also upgrade
Curator to
> 5.x, which doesn't support ookeeperK 3.4 anymore.
>
> On 25/11/2021 21:56, Till Rohrmann wrote:
>> Should we ask on the user mailing list whether anybody is
still using
>> ZooKeeper 3.4 and thus needs support for this version or
can a ZooKeeper
>> 3.5/3.6 client talk to a ZooKeeper 3.4 cluster? I would
expect that
>> not a
>> lot of users depend on it but just to make sure that we
aren't
>> annoying a
>> lot of our users with this change. Apart from that +1 for
removing it if
>> not a lot of user depend on it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Till
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 11:03 AM Matthias Pohl

>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for starting this discussion, Chesnay. +1 from my
side. It's
>>> time to
>>> move forward with the ZK support considering the EOL of
3.4 you already
>>> mentioned. The benefits we gain from upgrading Curator to
5.x as a
>>> consequence is another plus point. Just for reference on the
>>> inconsistent
>>> state issue you mentioned: FLINK-24543 [1].
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24543
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:19 AM Chesnay Schepler

>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 I'd like to drop support for Zookeeper 3.4 in 1.15,
upgrading the
 default to 3.5 with an opt-in for 3.6.

 Supporting Zookeeper 3.4 (which is already EOL) prevents
us from
 upgrading Curator to 5.x, which would allow us to
properly fix an
 issue
 with inconsistent state. It is also required to
eventually support ZK
>>> 3.6.
>
>





Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Zookeeper 3.4

2021-12-07 Thread Dongwon Kim
When should I prepare for upgrading ZK to 3.5 or newer?
We're operating a Hadoop cluster w/ ZK 3.4.6 for running only Flink jobs.
Just hope that the rolling update is not that painful - any advice on this?

Best,

Dongwon

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 3:22 AM Chesnay Schepler  wrote:

> Current users of ZK 3.4 and below would need to upgrade their Zookeeper
> installation that is used by Flink to 3.5+.
>
> Whether K8s users are affected depends on whether they use ZK or not. If
> they do, see above, otherwise they are not affected at all.
>
> On 06/12/2021 18:49, Arvid Heise wrote:
>
> Could someone please help me understand the implications of the upgrade?
>
> As far as I understood this upgrade would only affect users that have a
> zookeeper shared across multiple services, some of which require ZK 3.4-? A
> workaround for those users would be to run two ZKs with different versions,
> eventually deprecating old ZK, correct?
>
> If that is the only limitation, I'm +1 for the proposal since ZK 3.4 is
> already EOL.
>
> How are K8s users affected?
>
> Best,
>
> Arvid
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 2:00 PM Chesnay Schepler 
> wrote:
>
>> ping @users; any input on how this would affect you is highly appreciated.
>>
>> On 25/11/2021 22:39, Chesnay Schepler wrote:
>> > I included the user ML in the thread.
>> >
>> > @users Are you still using Zookeeper 3.4? If so, were you planning to
>> > upgrade Zookeeper in the near future?
>> >
>> > I'm not sure about ZK compatibility, but we'd also upgrade Curator to
>> > 5.x, which doesn't support ookeeperK 3.4 anymore.
>> >
>> > On 25/11/2021 21:56, Till Rohrmann wrote:
>> >> Should we ask on the user mailing list whether anybody is still using
>> >> ZooKeeper 3.4 and thus needs support for this version or can a
>> ZooKeeper
>> >> 3.5/3.6 client talk to a ZooKeeper 3.4 cluster? I would expect that
>> >> not a
>> >> lot of users depend on it but just to make sure that we aren't
>> >> annoying a
>> >> lot of our users with this change. Apart from that +1 for removing it
>> if
>> >> not a lot of user depend on it.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Till
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 11:03 AM Matthias Pohl > >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Thanks for starting this discussion, Chesnay. +1 from my side. It's
>> >>> time to
>> >>> move forward with the ZK support considering the EOL of 3.4 you
>> already
>> >>> mentioned. The benefits we gain from upgrading Curator to 5.x as a
>> >>> consequence is another plus point. Just for reference on the
>> >>> inconsistent
>> >>> state issue you mentioned: FLINK-24543 [1].
>> >>>
>> >>> Matthias
>> >>>
>> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24543
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:19 AM Chesnay Schepler > >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>>  Hello,
>> 
>>  I'd like to drop support for Zookeeper 3.4 in 1.15, upgrading the
>>  default to 3.5 with an opt-in for 3.6.
>> 
>>  Supporting Zookeeper 3.4 (which is already EOL) prevents us from
>>  upgrading Curator to 5.x, which would allow us to properly fix an
>>  issue
>>  with inconsistent state. It is also required to eventually support ZK
>> >>> 3.6.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Zookeeper 3.4

2021-12-06 Thread Yang Wang
FYI:

We(Alibaba) are widely using ZooKeeper 3.5.5 for all the YARN and some K8s
Flink high-available applications.


Best,
Yang

Chesnay Schepler  于2021年12月7日周二 上午2:22写道:

> Current users of ZK 3.4 and below would need to upgrade their Zookeeper
> installation that is used by Flink to 3.5+.
>
> Whether K8s users are affected depends on whether they use ZK or not. If
> they do, see above, otherwise they are not affected at all.
>
> On 06/12/2021 18:49, Arvid Heise wrote:
> > Could someone please help me understand the implications of the upgrade?
> >
> > As far as I understood this upgrade would only affect users that have
> > a zookeeper shared across multiple services, some of which require ZK
> > 3.4-? A workaround for those users would be to run two ZKs with
> > different versions, eventually deprecating old ZK, correct?
> >
> > If that is the only limitation, I'm +1 for the proposal since ZK 3.4
> > is already EOL.
> >
> > How are K8s users affected?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Arvid
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 2:00 PM Chesnay Schepler 
> > wrote:
> >
> > ping @users; any input on how this would affect you is highly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > On 25/11/2021 22:39, Chesnay Schepler wrote:
> > > I included the user ML in the thread.
> > >
> > > @users Are you still using Zookeeper 3.4? If so, were you
> > planning to
> > > upgrade Zookeeper in the near future?
> > >
> > > I'm not sure about ZK compatibility, but we'd also upgrade
> > Curator to
> > > 5.x, which doesn't support ookeeperK 3.4 anymore.
> > >
> > > On 25/11/2021 21:56, Till Rohrmann wrote:
> > >> Should we ask on the user mailing list whether anybody is still
> > using
> > >> ZooKeeper 3.4 and thus needs support for this version or can a
> > ZooKeeper
> > >> 3.5/3.6 client talk to a ZooKeeper 3.4 cluster? I would expect
> > that
> > >> not a
> > >> lot of users depend on it but just to make sure that we aren't
> > >> annoying a
> > >> lot of our users with this change. Apart from that +1 for
> > removing it if
> > >> not a lot of user depend on it.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Till
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 11:03 AM Matthias Pohl
> > 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks for starting this discussion, Chesnay. +1 from my side.
> > It's
> > >>> time to
> > >>> move forward with the ZK support considering the EOL of 3.4
> > you already
> > >>> mentioned. The benefits we gain from upgrading Curator to 5.x as
> a
> > >>> consequence is another plus point. Just for reference on the
> > >>> inconsistent
> > >>> state issue you mentioned: FLINK-24543 [1].
> > >>>
> > >>> Matthias
> > >>>
> > >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24543
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:19 AM Chesnay Schepler
> > 
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  Hello,
> > 
> >  I'd like to drop support for Zookeeper 3.4 in 1.15, upgrading
> the
> >  default to 3.5 with an opt-in for 3.6.
> > 
> >  Supporting Zookeeper 3.4 (which is already EOL) prevents us from
> >  upgrading Curator to 5.x, which would allow us to properly
> > fix an
> >  issue
> >  with inconsistent state. It is also required to eventually
> > support ZK
> > >>> 3.6.
> > >
> > >
> >
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Zookeeper 3.4

2021-12-06 Thread Chesnay Schepler
Current users of ZK 3.4 and below would need to upgrade their Zookeeper 
installation that is used by Flink to 3.5+.


Whether K8s users are affected depends on whether they use ZK or not. If 
they do, see above, otherwise they are not affected at all.


On 06/12/2021 18:49, Arvid Heise wrote:

Could someone please help me understand the implications of the upgrade?

As far as I understood this upgrade would only affect users that have 
a zookeeper shared across multiple services, some of which require ZK 
3.4-? A workaround for those users would be to run two ZKs with 
different versions, eventually deprecating old ZK, correct?


If that is the only limitation, I'm +1 for the proposal since ZK 3.4 
is already EOL.


How are K8s users affected?

Best,

Arvid

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 2:00 PM Chesnay Schepler  
wrote:


ping @users; any input on how this would affect you is highly
appreciated.

On 25/11/2021 22:39, Chesnay Schepler wrote:
> I included the user ML in the thread.
>
> @users Are you still using Zookeeper 3.4? If so, were you
planning to
> upgrade Zookeeper in the near future?
>
> I'm not sure about ZK compatibility, but we'd also upgrade
Curator to
> 5.x, which doesn't support ookeeperK 3.4 anymore.
>
> On 25/11/2021 21:56, Till Rohrmann wrote:
>> Should we ask on the user mailing list whether anybody is still
using
>> ZooKeeper 3.4 and thus needs support for this version or can a
ZooKeeper
>> 3.5/3.6 client talk to a ZooKeeper 3.4 cluster? I would expect
that
>> not a
>> lot of users depend on it but just to make sure that we aren't
>> annoying a
>> lot of our users with this change. Apart from that +1 for
removing it if
>> not a lot of user depend on it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Till
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 11:03 AM Matthias Pohl

>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for starting this discussion, Chesnay. +1 from my side.
It's
>>> time to
>>> move forward with the ZK support considering the EOL of 3.4
you already
>>> mentioned. The benefits we gain from upgrading Curator to 5.x as a
>>> consequence is another plus point. Just for reference on the
>>> inconsistent
>>> state issue you mentioned: FLINK-24543 [1].
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24543
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:19 AM Chesnay Schepler

>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 I'd like to drop support for Zookeeper 3.4 in 1.15, upgrading the
 default to 3.5 with an opt-in for 3.6.

 Supporting Zookeeper 3.4 (which is already EOL) prevents us from
 upgrading Curator to 5.x, which would allow us to properly
fix an
 issue
 with inconsistent state. It is also required to eventually
support ZK
>>> 3.6.
>
>



Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Zookeeper 3.4

2021-12-06 Thread Arvid Heise
Could someone please help me understand the implications of the upgrade?

As far as I understood this upgrade would only affect users that have a
zookeeper shared across multiple services, some of which require ZK 3.4-? A
workaround for those users would be to run two ZKs with different versions,
eventually deprecating old ZK, correct?

If that is the only limitation, I'm +1 for the proposal since ZK 3.4 is
already EOL.

How are K8s users affected?

Best,

Arvid

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 2:00 PM Chesnay Schepler  wrote:

> ping @users; any input on how this would affect you is highly appreciated.
>
> On 25/11/2021 22:39, Chesnay Schepler wrote:
> > I included the user ML in the thread.
> >
> > @users Are you still using Zookeeper 3.4? If so, were you planning to
> > upgrade Zookeeper in the near future?
> >
> > I'm not sure about ZK compatibility, but we'd also upgrade Curator to
> > 5.x, which doesn't support ookeeperK 3.4 anymore.
> >
> > On 25/11/2021 21:56, Till Rohrmann wrote:
> >> Should we ask on the user mailing list whether anybody is still using
> >> ZooKeeper 3.4 and thus needs support for this version or can a ZooKeeper
> >> 3.5/3.6 client talk to a ZooKeeper 3.4 cluster? I would expect that
> >> not a
> >> lot of users depend on it but just to make sure that we aren't
> >> annoying a
> >> lot of our users with this change. Apart from that +1 for removing it if
> >> not a lot of user depend on it.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Till
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 11:03 AM Matthias Pohl 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks for starting this discussion, Chesnay. +1 from my side. It's
> >>> time to
> >>> move forward with the ZK support considering the EOL of 3.4 you already
> >>> mentioned. The benefits we gain from upgrading Curator to 5.x as a
> >>> consequence is another plus point. Just for reference on the
> >>> inconsistent
> >>> state issue you mentioned: FLINK-24543 [1].
> >>>
> >>> Matthias
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24543
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:19 AM Chesnay Schepler 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Hello,
> 
>  I'd like to drop support for Zookeeper 3.4 in 1.15, upgrading the
>  default to 3.5 with an opt-in for 3.6.
> 
>  Supporting Zookeeper 3.4 (which is already EOL) prevents us from
>  upgrading Curator to 5.x, which would allow us to properly fix an
>  issue
>  with inconsistent state. It is also required to eventually support ZK
> >>> 3.6.
> >
> >
>
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Zookeeper 3.4

2021-12-06 Thread Chesnay Schepler

ping @users; any input on how this would affect you is highly appreciated.

On 25/11/2021 22:39, Chesnay Schepler wrote:

I included the user ML in the thread.

@users Are you still using Zookeeper 3.4? If so, were you planning to 
upgrade Zookeeper in the near future?


I'm not sure about ZK compatibility, but we'd also upgrade Curator to 
5.x, which doesn't support ookeeperK 3.4 anymore.


On 25/11/2021 21:56, Till Rohrmann wrote:

Should we ask on the user mailing list whether anybody is still using
ZooKeeper 3.4 and thus needs support for this version or can a ZooKeeper
3.5/3.6 client talk to a ZooKeeper 3.4 cluster? I would expect that 
not a
lot of users depend on it but just to make sure that we aren't 
annoying a

lot of our users with this change. Apart from that +1 for removing it if
not a lot of user depend on it.

Cheers,
Till

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 11:03 AM Matthias Pohl 
wrote:

Thanks for starting this discussion, Chesnay. +1 from my side. It's 
time to

move forward with the ZK support considering the EOL of 3.4 you already
mentioned. The benefits we gain from upgrading Curator to 5.x as a
consequence is another plus point. Just for reference on the 
inconsistent

state issue you mentioned: FLINK-24543 [1].

Matthias

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24543

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:19 AM Chesnay Schepler 
wrote:


Hello,

I'd like to drop support for Zookeeper 3.4 in 1.15, upgrading the
default to 3.5 with an opt-in for 3.6.

Supporting Zookeeper 3.4 (which is already EOL) prevents us from
upgrading Curator to 5.x, which would allow us to properly fix an 
issue

with inconsistent state. It is also required to eventually support ZK

3.6.







Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Zookeeper 3.4

2021-11-26 Thread Till Rohrmann
According to this SO question [1], it seems that Zk 3.5 clients cannot talk
to 3.4 servers. I also tried it out with a local deployment and Flink was
not able to start.

Newer Zk versions can talk to older Zk servers if no new APIs are used [2].

[1] https://stackoverflow.com/a/61630617/4815083
[2] https://zookeeper.apache.org/releases.html

Cheers,
Till

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 10:39 PM Chesnay Schepler 
wrote:

> I included the user ML in the thread.
>
> @users Are you still using Zookeeper 3.4? If so, were you planning to
> upgrade Zookeeper in the near future?
>
> I'm not sure about ZK compatibility, but we'd also upgrade Curator to
> 5.x, which doesn't support ookeeperK 3.4 anymore.
>
> On 25/11/2021 21:56, Till Rohrmann wrote:
> > Should we ask on the user mailing list whether anybody is still using
> > ZooKeeper 3.4 and thus needs support for this version or can a ZooKeeper
> > 3.5/3.6 client talk to a ZooKeeper 3.4 cluster? I would expect that not a
> > lot of users depend on it but just to make sure that we aren't annoying a
> > lot of our users with this change. Apart from that +1 for removing it if
> > not a lot of user depend on it.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Till
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 11:03 AM Matthias Pohl 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for starting this discussion, Chesnay. +1 from my side. It's
> time to
> >> move forward with the ZK support considering the EOL of 3.4 you already
> >> mentioned. The benefits we gain from upgrading Curator to 5.x as a
> >> consequence is another plus point. Just for reference on the
> inconsistent
> >> state issue you mentioned: FLINK-24543 [1].
> >>
> >> Matthias
> >>
> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24543
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:19 AM Chesnay Schepler 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to drop support for Zookeeper 3.4 in 1.15, upgrading the
> >>> default to 3.5 with an opt-in for 3.6.
> >>>
> >>> Supporting Zookeeper 3.4 (which is already EOL) prevents us from
> >>> upgrading Curator to 5.x, which would allow us to properly fix an issue
> >>> with inconsistent state. It is also required to eventually support ZK
> >> 3.6.
>
>
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Zookeeper 3.4

2021-11-25 Thread Chesnay Schepler

I included the user ML in the thread.

@users Are you still using Zookeeper 3.4? If so, were you planning to 
upgrade Zookeeper in the near future?


I'm not sure about ZK compatibility, but we'd also upgrade Curator to 
5.x, which doesn't support ookeeperK 3.4 anymore.


On 25/11/2021 21:56, Till Rohrmann wrote:

Should we ask on the user mailing list whether anybody is still using
ZooKeeper 3.4 and thus needs support for this version or can a ZooKeeper
3.5/3.6 client talk to a ZooKeeper 3.4 cluster? I would expect that not a
lot of users depend on it but just to make sure that we aren't annoying a
lot of our users with this change. Apart from that +1 for removing it if
not a lot of user depend on it.

Cheers,
Till

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 11:03 AM Matthias Pohl 
wrote:


Thanks for starting this discussion, Chesnay. +1 from my side. It's time to
move forward with the ZK support considering the EOL of 3.4 you already
mentioned. The benefits we gain from upgrading Curator to 5.x as a
consequence is another plus point. Just for reference on the inconsistent
state issue you mentioned: FLINK-24543 [1].

Matthias

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24543

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:19 AM Chesnay Schepler 
wrote:


Hello,

I'd like to drop support for Zookeeper 3.4 in 1.15, upgrading the
default to 3.5 with an opt-in for 3.6.

Supporting Zookeeper 3.4 (which is already EOL) prevents us from
upgrading Curator to 5.x, which would allow us to properly fix an issue
with inconsistent state. It is also required to eventually support ZK

3.6.





Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Zookeeper 3.4

2021-11-25 Thread Till Rohrmann
Should we ask on the user mailing list whether anybody is still using
ZooKeeper 3.4 and thus needs support for this version or can a ZooKeeper
3.5/3.6 client talk to a ZooKeeper 3.4 cluster? I would expect that not a
lot of users depend on it but just to make sure that we aren't annoying a
lot of our users with this change. Apart from that +1 for removing it if
not a lot of user depend on it.

Cheers,
Till

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 11:03 AM Matthias Pohl 
wrote:

> Thanks for starting this discussion, Chesnay. +1 from my side. It's time to
> move forward with the ZK support considering the EOL of 3.4 you already
> mentioned. The benefits we gain from upgrading Curator to 5.x as a
> consequence is another plus point. Just for reference on the inconsistent
> state issue you mentioned: FLINK-24543 [1].
>
> Matthias
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24543
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:19 AM Chesnay Schepler 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'd like to drop support for Zookeeper 3.4 in 1.15, upgrading the
> > default to 3.5 with an opt-in for 3.6.
> >
> > Supporting Zookeeper 3.4 (which is already EOL) prevents us from
> > upgrading Curator to 5.x, which would allow us to properly fix an issue
> > with inconsistent state. It is also required to eventually support ZK
> 3.6.
> >
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Zookeeper 3.4

2021-11-24 Thread Matthias Pohl
Thanks for starting this discussion, Chesnay. +1 from my side. It's time to
move forward with the ZK support considering the EOL of 3.4 you already
mentioned. The benefits we gain from upgrading Curator to 5.x as a
consequence is another plus point. Just for reference on the inconsistent
state issue you mentioned: FLINK-24543 [1].

Matthias

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24543

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:19 AM Chesnay Schepler 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'd like to drop support for Zookeeper 3.4 in 1.15, upgrading the
> default to 3.5 with an opt-in for 3.6.
>
> Supporting Zookeeper 3.4 (which is already EOL) prevents us from
> upgrading Curator to 5.x, which would allow us to properly fix an issue
> with inconsistent state. It is also required to eventually support ZK 3.6.
>


[DISCUSS] Drop Zookeeper 3.4

2021-11-24 Thread Chesnay Schepler

Hello,

I'd like to drop support for Zookeeper 3.4 in 1.15, upgrading the 
default to 3.5 with an opt-in for 3.6.


Supporting Zookeeper 3.4 (which is already EOL) prevents us from 
upgrading Curator to 5.x, which would allow us to properly fix an issue 
with inconsistent state. It is also required to eventually support ZK 3.6.