Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-06-07 Thread Ross Gardler

David Crossley wrote:

Ross Gardler wrote:


Ferdinand Soethe wrote:


? So how are we on fixing a schedule for the 0.7 release?

As far as I can tell Ross is about to finish fixing and documenting
the raw-html issue FOR-505 which leaves only FOR-500 as a blocker.


FOR-505 is now done, I've not close because I feel it needs approval 
since I somewhat steamrollered the solution through.


I think FOR-500 is pretty much complete. I know David did allot of work 
on this.



There is more to it, not described at the FOR-500. I deliberately left
it open because the whole trunk needs to be verified for license issues.
I will do that at the last minute because people might add more stuff
that needs license verification.



I'll do FOR-522 tonight or tomorrow AM (this is not a blocker anyway)



? Any objection to starting the release process June 20th?


+1



Why so late? I would prefer that we started on June 10.


Also +1, basically I am not at a stage at the moment where I can block 
out a morning/afternoon to do the release, but I can certainly find the 
odd hour to test things, polish docs etc. Pick any date that suits, I'll 
help.


Ross


Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-06-07 Thread Ferdinand Soethe

> Why so late? I would prefer that we started on June 10.

Fine by me. I have time from June 10 to 15th to chip in.

--
Ferdinand Soethe



Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-06-06 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote:
> Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
> >? So how are we on fixing a schedule for the 0.7 release?
> >
> >As far as I can tell Ross is about to finish fixing and documenting
> >the raw-html issue FOR-505 which leaves only FOR-500 as a blocker.
> 
> FOR-505 is now done, I've not close because I feel it needs approval 
> since I somewhat steamrollered the solution through.
> 
> I think FOR-500 is pretty much complete. I know David did allot of work 
> on this.

There is more to it, not described at the FOR-500. I deliberately left
it open because the whole trunk needs to be verified for license issues.
I will do that at the last minute because people might add more stuff
that needs license verification.

> I'll do FOR-522 tonight or tomorrow AM (this is not a blocker anyway)
> 
> >? Any objection to starting the release process June 20th?
> 
> +1

Why so late? I would prefer that we started on June 10.

The lead-up to end of financial year here (June 30) is when
government clients finally spring into action and realise
that there is a stack of work to be done.

--David


Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler

Ferdinand Soethe wrote:

? So how are we on fixing a schedule for the 0.7 release?

As far as I can tell Ross is about to finish fixing and documenting
the raw-html issue FOR-505 which leaves only FOR-500 as a blocker.


FOR-505 is now done, I've not close because I feel it needs approval 
since I somewhat steamrollered the solution through.


I think FOR-500 is pretty much complete. I know David did allot of work 
on this.


I'll do FOR-522 tonight or tomorrow AM (this is not a blocker anyway)


? Any objection to starting the release process June 20th?


+1

Ross


Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-06-06 Thread Ferdinand Soethe

? So how are we on fixing a schedule for the 0.7 release?

As far as I can tell Ross is about to finish fixing and documenting
the raw-html issue FOR-505 which leaves only FOR-500 as a blocker.

? Any objection to starting the release process June 20th?

? Any more fuzzy feelings to be discussed before we set that date?

Looking at the RELEASE_PROCESS.txt document I also wondered if we
couldn't convert this into a chain of workflow steps in Jira to be
reactivated and checked off for each release. I'll ask that in a
separate thread.

--
Ferdinand Soethe



Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-24 Thread Ross Gardler

David Crossley wrote:

Ross Gardler wrote:


David Crossley wrote:


Ross Gardler wrote:



Yes, that will go with a cocoon upgrade that needs to be done for two of
the outstanding issues anyway.


Which issues are you talking about Ross? Are they critical?


"Lazy Mode: True" messages are just an output issue, I'm good with that.

"character entities (e.g. ampersand) are expanded again for href or src 
attributes" (http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-241 ) is marked as 
major, comments indicate it is fixed in Cocoon trunk.



Ah, no, i see that my comment has misled you. I just meant that the
Cocoon Hello World sample did not exhibit the problem. It might be our
sitemaps. Anyway, it is a known problem, we don't actually need to
fix it.


Ok

This issue only affects users running in dynamic mode since the encoding 
of request parameters when creating a static site breaks the links 
anyway (there can be no '?' in a filename, so no static link can be made)


The other issue seems to have been closed (or moved).



I reckon that we should not wait for a Cocoon upgrade.


Since I don't have Linux right now and Juan (I think it was Juan who 
took the time to try the upgrade, apologies if I'm not giving the 
credit to the right person) has encountered problems with the upgrade I 
am +1 on going ahead without the upgrade. Lets just say if we don't get 
a -1 in the next three days we will go ahead and move those issues to 
0.8. If someone wants to -1 this proposal then *they* will have to do 
the upgrade - fair enough?



Yes Juan==Cheche did try, and he contacted cocoon-dev and got positive
reply to his specific issue. However other people are saying cocoon
trunk is not stable.


Well if it is not stable then I suppose we best stick with what we have 
and know to be stable (enough).


I'll also finsih FOR-454, major changes are now marked up in status.xml, 
we need a stylesheet for projectInfo to allow them to be included in 
relevant docs with xi:include (unless someone gets there first of course).



FOR-454 was actually about adding more content to "upgrading_07" doc.
That should be a group effort, but if you get time to try that would be good.

The extra improvement about getting announcement automatically
notes out of the status.xml is a bonus, we don't need it for release.
We can just manually write the etc/announcement-0.7.txt


We don't need it for a release, but since we now have an importance tag 
in status.xml and I've already gone through marking the changes I 
believe to be important enough it is only a small step (and in fact is 
almost complete on my hard drive, I expect to commit today).



That leaves:

FOR-391  website docs/site split
http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-391

Which I believe is complete but for thorough testing, the creation of 
the 0.8 set of docs and the move to 0.7 as the default (the move should 
be done as part of the release process)


This is currently assigned to David, but I believe this is a job for 
many eyes now. We need people to look for problems. Shall we post a 
request to the user list to check these docs?



Job is done.

That is a good idea. The dev list too. There must be a lot of lurkers.

What would we ask? We don't want reports that we need more docs
about so-and-so or that we need to create a beginners tutorial.
Mainly we need to find instructions and pathnames that still
relate to 0.6 version. Anything else can wait until 0.8-dev


I suppose we are looking for broken links and the like. How about this 
as a draft email:


---

Subject: Please help with document review

We are very close to releasing version 0.7 of Apache Forrest. As part of 
this release we have upgraded our documentation system so that the 
website houses separate documents for each release. You can see the home 
page of the 0.7 documents at http://forrest.apache.org/0.7/docs/index.html


We would appreciate the help of all users and devs in ensuring that our 
documentation does not contain any obvious errors. In particular we are 
looking for:


- broken links
- references to version 0.6
- instructions or documentation that applies to a feature of 0.6 that 
has been changed in some way

- spelling and grammar corrections

If you find any problems please open a bug report via 
http://issues.cocoondev.org/secure/CreateIssue!default.jspa


If you can attach a patch or suggested correct to the bug report that 
would be very much appreciated. We'll ensure it goes into the release 
and you get full credit.


Please note, we are not looking for requests for more docs or tutorials. 
We know there is a need for these and this is an ongoing effort. This 
particular review is about the accuracy of our existing documentation.


Thanks for your assistance.

---

Of course, my proposal to require a "-1 and a fix" could be seen as 
railroading the release, it is a step ahead of lazy consensus, ...



What about when that person gets drawn off by other itches
and we have a half-finished 

Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-24 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> >Ross Gardler wrote:
> >
> >>Yes, that will go with a cocoon upgrade that needs to be done for two of
> >>the outstanding issues anyway.
> >
> >Which issues are you talking about Ross? Are they critical?
> 
> "Lazy Mode: True" messages are just an output issue, I'm good with that.
> 
> "character entities (e.g. ampersand) are expanded again for href or src 
> attributes" (http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-241 ) is marked as 
> major, comments indicate it is fixed in Cocoon trunk.

Ah, no, i see that my comment has misled you. I just meant that the
Cocoon Hello World sample did not exhibit the problem. It might be our
sitemaps. Anyway, it is a known problem, we don't actually need to
fix it.

> This issue only affects users running in dynamic mode since the encoding 
> of request parameters when creating a static site breaks the links 
> anyway (there can be no '?' in a filename, so no static link can be made)
> 
> The other issue seems to have been closed (or moved).
> 
> >I reckon that we should not wait for a Cocoon upgrade.
> 
> Since I don't have Linux right now and Juan (I think it was Juan who 
> took the time to try the upgrade, apologies if I'm not giving the 
> credit to the right person) has encountered problems with the upgrade I 
> am +1 on going ahead without the upgrade. Lets just say if we don't get 
> a -1 in the next three days we will go ahead and move those issues to 
> 0.8. If someone wants to -1 this proposal then *they* will have to do 
> the upgrade - fair enough?

Yes Juan==Cheche did try, and he contacted cocoon-dev and got positive
reply to his specific issue. However other people are saying cocoon
trunk is not stable.

> >I will attend to FOR-500 verifying the licenses for supporting
> >products and generally ensure that our own work is properly
> >licensed, but i don't want to do that until just before release
> >in case more stuff gets added.
> 
> I'll finish FOR-470 (update seed site)
> 
> I'll also finsih FOR-454, major changes are now marked up in status.xml, 
> we need a stylesheet for projectInfo to allow them to be included in 
> relevant docs with xi:include (unless someone gets there first of course).

FOR-454 was actually about adding more content to "upgrading_07" doc.
That should be a group effort, but if you get time to try that would be good.

The extra improvement about getting announcement automatically
notes out of the status.xml is a bonus, we don't need it for release.
We can just manually write the etc/announcement-0.7.txt

> That leaves:
> 
> FOR-391website docs/site split
> http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-391
> 
> Which I believe is complete but for thorough testing, the creation of 
> the 0.8 set of docs and the move to 0.7 as the default (the move should 
> be done as part of the release process)
> 
> This is currently assigned to David, but I believe this is a job for 
> many eyes now. We need people to look for problems. Shall we post a 
> request to the user list to check these docs?

Job is done.

That is a good idea. The dev list too. There must be a lot of lurkers.

What would we ask? We don't want reports that we need more docs
about so-and-so or that we need to create a beginners tutorial.
Mainly we need to find instructions and pathnames that still
relate to 0.6 version. Anything else can wait until 0.8-dev

> ---
> 
> FOR-465Logging Error: Writing event to closed stream.
> http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-465
> 
> I have no idea what is causing this so someone needs to do some initial 
> evaluation.
> 
> I'd be OK with this still being in the release as it does not affect the 
> usability of Forrest. So again, I propose we release without this fixed 
> unless someone votes -1 *and* fixes it for us.
> 
> ---
> 
> Of course, my proposal to require a "-1 and a fix" could be seen as 
> railroading the release, it is a step ahead of lazy consensus, ...

What about when that person gets drawn off by other itches
and we have a half-finished solution. Delay.

> ... so I 
> won't argue the point if devs feel this is not an appropriate. I just 
> want to get this release out.

Don't we all.

--David


Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-24 Thread Ross Gardler

David Crossley wrote:

Ross Gardler wrote:


Juan Jose Pablos wrote:


Ross Gardler wrote:



There are now only 5 issues open on the 0.7 release.

3 of them are documentation issues, so anyone can pitch in here.

2 of them are Cocoon issues and will either be fixed with a cocoon
upgrade, or we will not be able to fix them for 0.7

Is it time we planned for a release date? (again)


The "Lazy mode: true" output looks very awfull


Yes, that will go with a cocoon upgrade that needs to be done for two of
the outstanding issues anyway.



Which issues are you talking about Ross? Are they critical?


"Lazy Mode: True" messages are just an output issue, I'm good with that.

"character entities (e.g. ampersand) are expanded again for href or src 
attributes" (http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-241 ) is marked as 
major, comments indicate it is fixed in Cocoon trunk.


This issue only affects users running in dynamic mode since the encoding 
of request parameters when creating a static site breaks the links 
anyway (there can be no '?' in a filename, so no static link can be made)


The other issue seems to have been closed (or moved).



I reckon that we should not wait for a Cocoon upgrade.


Since I don't have Linux right now and Juan (I think it was Juan who 
took the time to try the upgrade, apologies if I'm not giving the 
credit to the right person) has encountered problems with the upgrade I 
am +1 on going ahead without the upgrade. Lets just say if we don't get 
a -1 in the next three days we will go ahead and move those issues to 
0.8. If someone wants to -1 this proposal then *they* will have to do 
the upgrade - fair enough?




I will attend to FOR-500 verifying the licenses for supporting
products and generally ensure that our own work is properly
licensed, but i don't want to do that until just before release
in case more stuff gets added.


I'll finish FOR-470 (update seed site)

I'll also finsih FOR-454, major changes are now marked up in status.xml, 
we need a stylesheet for projectInfo to allow them to be included in 
relevant docs with xi:include (unless someone gets there first of course).


That leaves:

FOR-391  website docs/site split
http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-391

Which I believe is complete but for thorough testing, the creation of 
the 0.8 set of docs and the move to 0.7 as the default (the move should 
be done as part of the release process)


This is currently assigned to David, but I believe this is a job for 
many eyes now. We need people to look for problems. Shall we post a 
request to the user list to check these docs?


---

FOR-465  Logging Error: Writing event to closed stream.
http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-465

I have no idea what is causing this so someone needs to do some initial 
evaluation.


I'd be OK with this still being in the release as it does not affect the 
usability of Forrest. So again, I propose we release without this fixed 
unless someone votes -1 *and* fixes it for us.


---

Of course, my proposal to require a "-1 and a fix" could be seen as 
railroading the release, it is a step ahead of lazy consensus, so I 
won't argue the point if devs feel this is not an appropriate. I just 
want to get this release out.


Ross


Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-24 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Sorry but http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-470 is still open
since I didn't get to fix the examples in fresh site. Everythings else
is done, but I won't get to do the test and documentation before June
2nd.

--
Ferdinand Soethe



Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-24 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote:
> Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
> >Ross Gardler wrote:
> >
> >>There are now only 5 issues open on the 0.7 release.
> >>
> >>3 of them are documentation issues, so anyone can pitch in here.
> >>
> >>2 of them are Cocoon issues and will either be fixed with a cocoon
> >>upgrade, or we will not be able to fix them for 0.7
> >>
> >>Is it time we planned for a release date? (again)
> >
> >The "Lazy mode: true" output looks very awfull
> 
> Yes, that will go with a cocoon upgrade that needs to be done for two of
> the outstanding issues anyway.

Which issues are you talking about Ross? Are they critical?

I reckon that we should not wait for a Cocoon upgrade.

I will attend to FOR-500 verifying the licenses for supporting
products and generally ensure that our own work is properly
licensed, but i don't want to do that until just before release
in case more stuff gets added.

As we have said before, we do not need to solve every issue
that is listed.

--David


Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-16 Thread Ross Gardler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
...
1.6.3 is an older version? This is the lastest "stable" released.

I read the ant mailing list, and they are releasing 1.6.4 as a 1.6.3 
bigfix. Released != bugfree.

BTW, even the current in forrest rerpo is buggy. If not, hence there
will not need for bug fixing. ;-)

The question is: do the existing bugs bite us? If not, we can wait for 
some weeks after a release before upgrading.
I'm not aware of any bugs in the current version of ANT we have that are 
affecting us. Personally I see no need to change it.

On the other hand, there are a few issues in Cocoon that are affecting 
us, I'm not sure if they have been fixed in Cocoon head or not. 
Unfortunately, I am currently without a Linux machine (It hurts I can 
tell you), and so I am not able to update Cocoon to test it since the 
scripts in FORREST_HOME/etc/cocoon_upgrade will not run under Cygwin 
(alias and popd/pushd not supported)

Can someone with Linux please upgrade the Cocoon jars to see if it fixes:
- the "Lazy mode: false" message
- http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-241
- http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-465 (actually looking at this 
one again, I'm not sure it is a COcoon problem)

Ross


Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-16 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
...
1.6.3 is an older version? This is the lastest "stable" released.
I read the ant mailing list, and they are releasing 1.6.4 as a 1.6.3 
bigfix. Released != bugfree.

BTW, even the current in forrest rerpo is buggy. If not, hence there
will not need for bug fixing. ;-)
The question is: do the existing bugs bite us? If not, we can wait for 
some weeks after a release before upgrading.

All in all, I am +1 for waiting to 1.6.4. We can release few days later.
--
Nicola Ken Barozzi   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   - verba volant, scripta manent -
   (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
-


Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-15 Thread David Crossley
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> David Crossley dijo:
> > Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> >> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> >> >David Crossley dijo:
> >> >
> >> >>Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> >> ...
> >> >>>I suggest to add ant 2.6.3. It brings better java 1.5 support and lot
> >> of
> >> >>>fixes:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/WHATSNEW?only_with_tag=ANT_163&view=markup
> >> >>
> >> >>Okay, i for one, am happy that "somebody" updates our libraries.
> >> >
> >> >Ping! :-) OKAY I will do this. :-)
> >>
> >> 1.6.3 has some bugs that have come out just after release.
> >> They are releasing 1.6.4 on Thursday, May 19th.
> >>
> >> This is an example of why we should not upgrade a library just after
> >> it's released if there is not an important bugfix for us in it.
> >
> > That is why i suggested that if we do want to upgrade our
> > libraries, then we can use a current snapshot or pre-release.
> > I didn't realise that Antonio was suggesting an older version.
> 
> 1.6.3 is an older version? This is the lastest "stable" released.

It is older than the current head of their trunk.

> BTW,
> even the current in forrest rerpo is buggy. If not, hence there will not
> need for bug fixing. ;-)
> 
> All in all, I am +1 for waiting to 1.6.4. We can release few days later.

That is the issue. We don't want to wait until then
to commence our release testing phase. It might actually
turn out that we are not ready by then anway.

--David


Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-14 Thread Antonio Gallardo
On Sab, 14 de Mayo de 2005, 19:43, David Crossley dijo:
> Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>> >David Crossley dijo:
>> >
>> >>Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>> ...
>> >>>I suggest to add ant 2.6.3. It brings better java 1.5 support and lot
>> of
>> >>>fixes:
>> >>>
>> >>>http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/WHATSNEW?only_with_tag=ANT_163&view=markup
>> >>
>> >>Okay, i for one, am happy that "somebody" updates our libraries.
>> >
>> >Ping! :-) OKAY I will do this. :-)
>>
>> 1.6.3 has some bugs that have come out just after release.
>> They are releasing 1.6.4 on Thursday, May 19th.
>>
>> This is an example of why we should not upgrade a library just after
>> it's released if there is not an important bugfix for us in it.
>
> That is why i suggested that if we do want to upgrade our
> libraries, then we can use a current snapshot or pre-release.
> I didn't realise that Antonio was suggesting an older version.

1.6.3 is an older version? This is the lastest "stable" released. BTW,
even the current in forrest rerpo is buggy. If not, hence there will not
need for bug fixing. ;-)

All in all, I am +1 for waiting to 1.6.4. We can release few days later.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo



Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-14 Thread David Crossley
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> >David Crossley dijo:
> >
> >>Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> ...
> >>>I suggest to add ant 2.6.3. It brings better java 1.5 support and lot of
> >>>fixes:
> >>>
> >>>http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/WHATSNEW?only_with_tag=ANT_163&view=markup
> >>
> >>Okay, i for one, am happy that "somebody" updates our libraries.
> >
> >Ping! :-) OKAY I will do this. :-)
> 
> 1.6.3 has some bugs that have come out just after release.
> They are releasing 1.6.4 on Thursday, May 19th.
> 
> This is an example of why we should not upgrade a library just after 
> it's released if there is not an important bugfix for us in it.

That is why i suggested that if we do want to upgrade our
libraries, then we can use a current snapshot or pre-release.
I didn't realise that Antonio was suggesting an older version.

--David


Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
On Sab, 14 de Mayo de 2005, 3:56, David Crossley dijo:
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
...
I suggest to add ant 2.6.3. It brings better java 1.5 support and lot of
fixes:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/WHATSNEW?only_with_tag=ANT_163&view=markup
Okay, i for one, am happy that "somebody" updates our libraries.
Ping! :-) OKAY I will do this. :-)
1.6.3 has some bugs that have come out just after release.
They are releasing 1.6.4 on Thursday, May 19th.
This is an example of why we should not upgrade a library just after 
it's released if there is not an important bugfix for us in it.

--
Nicola Ken Barozzi   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- verba volant, scripta manent -
   (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
-


Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-14 Thread Antonio Gallardo
On Sab, 14 de Mayo de 2005, 3:56, David Crossley dijo:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>> David Crossley dijo:
>> > scott hutinger wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If a newer version of xerces were in place, I would say yes.  But
>> that
>> >> is not the case, as xerces has not released anything as of yet.
>> >> That isn't truly Ant related, but just one point of view.
>> >
>> > We can use pre-releases of these supporting products, we don't
>> > need to wait for a final release. An svn snapshot is fine.
>> >
>> > If people have an actual need for updated libraries, then
>> > please say so. We can add them now, because we will be
>> > going into a testing phase soon.
>> >
>> >> Ross Gardler wrote:
>> >> >Is there any justification for delaying our release in order
>> >> >to include this version of ANT?
>> >
>> > See above for an alternative. I suggest, with our imminent
>> > release, that we stick with what we have working now.
>>
>> I suggest to add ant 2.6.3. It brings better java 1.5 support and lot of
>> fixes:
>>
>> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/WHATSNEW?only_with_tag=ANT_163&view=markup
>
> Okay, i for one, am happy that "somebody" updates our libraries.

Ping! :-) OKAY I will do this. :-)

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.



Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-14 Thread David Crossley
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> David Crossley dijo:
> > scott hutinger wrote:
> >>
> >> If a newer version of xerces were in place, I would say yes.  But that
> >> is not the case, as xerces has not released anything as of yet.
> >> That isn't truly Ant related, but just one point of view.
> >
> > We can use pre-releases of these supporting products, we don't
> > need to wait for a final release. An svn snapshot is fine.
> >
> > If people have an actual need for updated libraries, then
> > please say so. We can add them now, because we will be
> > going into a testing phase soon.
> >
> >> Ross Gardler wrote:
> >> >Is there any justification for delaying our release in order
> >> >to include this version of ANT?
> >
> > See above for an alternative. I suggest, with our imminent
> > release, that we stick with what we have working now.
> 
> I suggest to add ant 2.6.3. It brings better java 1.5 support and lot of
> fixes:
> 
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/WHATSNEW?only_with_tag=ANT_163&view=markup

Okay, i for one, am happy that "somebody" updates our libraries.

WDOT

--David


Re: AW: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-13 Thread Antonio Gallardo
On Vie, 13 de Mayo de 2005, 22:30, David Crossley dijo:
> scott hutinger wrote:
>>
>> If a newer version of xerces were in place, I would say yes.  But that
>> is not the case, as xerces has not released anything as of yet.
>> That isn't truly Ant related, but just one point of view.
>
> We can use pre-releases of these supporting products, we don't
> need to wait for a final release. An svn snapshot is fine.
>
> If people have an actual need for updated libraries, then
> please say so. We can add them now, because we will be
> going into a testing phase soon.
>
>> Ross Gardler wrote:
>> >Is there any justification for delaying our release in order
>> >to include this version of ANT?
>
> See above for an alternative. I suggest, with our imminent
> release, that we stick with what we have working now.

I suggest to add ant 2.6.3. It brings better java 1.5 support and lot of
fixes:

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/WHATSNEW?only_with_tag=ANT_163&view=markup

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo


>
> --David
>



Re: AW: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-13 Thread David Crossley
scott hutinger wrote:
>
> If a newer version of xerces were in place, I would say yes.  But that 
> is not the case, as xerces has not released anything as of yet.
> That isn't truly Ant related, but just one point of view.

We can use pre-releases of these supporting products, we don't
need to wait for a final release. An svn snapshot is fine.

If people have an actual need for updated libraries, then
please say so. We can add them now, because we will be
going into a testing phase soon.

> Ross Gardler wrote:
> >Is there any justification for delaying our release in order
> >to include this version of ANT?

See above for an alternative. I suggest, with our imminent
release, that we stick with what we have working now.

--David


Re: AW: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-13 Thread scott hutinger
Ross Gardler wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 19th Ant 1.6.4 will be released [1], if you want to include 
that, maybe
one or two weeks later for testing?


If a newer version of xerces were in place, I would say yes.  But that 
is not the case, as xerces has not released anything as of yet.
That isn't truly Ant related, but just one point of view.

scott
Is there any justification for delaying our release in order to include
this version of ANT?
Ross



0.7 is nearly there, but table alignment problem with pelt and IE still not fixed

2005-05-13 Thread Sten Aksel Heien
Just would like to ask if anybody have found a solution to:
 Table alignment problem with pelt and IE  = Bug FOR-336
(http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-336)

-Sten Aksel

On 5/13/05, Ross Gardler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are now only 5 issues open on the 0.7 release.
> 
> 3 of them are documentation issues, so anyone can pitch in here.
> 
> 2 of them are Cocoon issues and will either be fixed with a cocoon
> upgrade, or we will not be able to fix them for 0.7
> 
> Is it time we planned for a release date? (again)
> 
> Ross
>


Re: AW: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-13 Thread Ross Gardler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 19th Ant 1.6.4 will be released [1], if you want to include that, 
maybe
one or two weeks later for testing?

Is there any justification for delaying our release in order to include
this version of ANT?
Ross


Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-13 Thread Ross Gardler
Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
There are now only 5 issues open on the 0.7 release.
3 of them are documentation issues, so anyone can pitch in here.
2 of them are Cocoon issues and will either be fixed with a cocoon
upgrade, or we will not be able to fix them for 0.7
Is it time we planned for a release date? (again)
Ross

The "Lazy mode: true" output looks very awfull
Yes, that will go with a cocoon upgrade that needs to be done for two of
the outstanding issues anyway.
Ross


Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-13 Thread Ferdinand Soethe




Juan Jose Pablos wrote:

> Ross Gardler wrote:
>> There are now only 5 issues open on the 0.7 release.
>> 
>> 3 of them are documentation issues, so anyone can pitch in here.
>> 
>> 2 of them are Cocoon issues and will either be fixed with a cocoon
>> upgrade, or we will not be able to fix them for 0.7
>> 
>> Is it time we planned for a release date? (again)
>> 
>> Ross
>> 
>> 
> The "Lazy mode: true" output looks very awfull

ye!





--
Ferdinand Soethe



Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-13 Thread Juan Jose Pablos
Ross Gardler wrote:
> There are now only 5 issues open on the 0.7 release.
> 
> 3 of them are documentation issues, so anyone can pitch in here.
> 
> 2 of them are Cocoon issues and will either be fixed with a cocoon
> upgrade, or we will not be able to fix them for 0.7
> 
> Is it time we planned for a release date? (again)
> 
> Ross
> 
> 
The "Lazy mode: true" output looks very awful







Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-13 Thread Juan Jose Pablos
Ross Gardler wrote:
> There are now only 5 issues open on the 0.7 release.
> 
> 3 of them are documentation issues, so anyone can pitch in here.
> 
> 2 of them are Cocoon issues and will either be fixed with a cocoon
> upgrade, or we will not be able to fix them for 0.7
> 
> Is it time we planned for a release date? (again)
> 
> Ross
> 
> 
The "Lazy mode: true" output looks very awfull






AW: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-12 Thread Jan . Materne
Title: AW: 0.7 is nearly there





On May 19th Ant 1.6.4 will be released [1], if you want to include that, maybe
one or two weeks later for testing?


Jan


[1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ant-dev&m=111570775312127&w=2



> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: David Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Gesendet am: Freitag, 13. Mai 2005 04:04
> An: dev@forrest.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: 0.7 is nearly there
> 
> Ross Gardler wrote:
> > There are now only 5 issues open on the 0.7 release.
> > 
> > 3 of them are documentation issues, so anyone can pitch in here.
> >
> > 2 of them are Cocoon issues and will either be fixed with a cocoon 
> > upgrade, or we will not be able to fix them for 0.7
> >
> > Is it time we planned for a release date? (again)
> 
> Yes, i believe it is. Let us suggest some dates.
> 
> --David
> 





Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-12 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote:
> There are now only 5 issues open on the 0.7 release.
> 
> 3 of them are documentation issues, so anyone can pitch in here.
>
> 2 of them are Cocoon issues and will either be fixed with a cocoon 
> upgrade, or we will not be able to fix them for 0.7
>
> Is it time we planned for a release date? (again)

Yes, i believe it is. Let us suggest some dates.

--David


0.7 is nearly there

2005-05-12 Thread Ross Gardler
There are now only 5 issues open on the 0.7 release.
3 of them are documentation issues, so anyone can pitch in here.
2 of them are Cocoon issues and will either be fixed with a cocoon 
upgrade, or we will not be able to fix them for 0.7

Is it time we planned for a release date? (again)
Ross