Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-15 Thread Cyriaque Dupoirieux

Thorsten Scherler a écrit :


On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 06:34 -0400, addi wrote:
 


On Wednesday September 14 2005 4:17 am, David Crossley wrote:
   


Thorsten Scherler wrote:
 


Any from this times. We just to state *when*.
   


That is why i needed to start asking people specifically.
The lack of reply seemed that there was no interest.

Okay so lets try a different approach.

The design session will be by IRC and it will be
on Sunday 18 September starting at 20:00 UTC
for between one and two hours.

 

I will be on a plane to Texas at that time but I'm not a player, just a 
spectator right now so as long as it is logged, I'll read it later.
   



 


If anyone has a problem then please suggest
another time.

 



Till now only two stated that there can at this time. Can you follow
David hint and suggest a time that suit you better. 


I would like to see/hear your feedback. ;-) You are already playing with
us that makes you a player. ;-)
 


I am not mature enough to configure my IRC...
I'll be there on saturday, and I'll try again, but last tuesday I did 
not succeded :-[ .


Cyriaque,


salu2
 



Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-15 Thread Gav....

- Original Message - 
From: David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: dev@forrest.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for 
views/xhtml2/internals


| Gav wrote:
| 
|  I will still be in the land of nod, I too am a spectator
|  and hope to catch up with a log file.
|
| That is the trouble with the world being round,
| there will always be someone that is asleep.
|
| We could edge it forward another hour or so
| but that makes the end time very late for Europeans.
|
| -David

So we have mainly Europe , America , the UK ( new home to the ashes) and 
Australia to contend with.

I have done another Meeting Planner from World Time Server and using these 
Cities as input :-

Perth WA, New South Wales, Germany, US Florida, and the UK.

Results at 
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/meeting-planner-times.aspx?L0=AU-WAL1=AU-NSWL2=DEL3=US-FLL4=GBD=17%2f09%2f2005+12%3a00%3a00+AM

Now I can see maybe 3 lines there that are acceptable to most suitable times 
:-

  Australia - WA  Australia - N S W Germany 
United States - Florida  United Kingdom

  Sat 17/09/2005 6:00 PMSat 17/09/2005 8:00 PMSat 17/09/2005 
12:00 PM*Sat 17/09/2005 6:00 AM*Sat 17/09/2005 11:00 AM*
   Sat 17/09/2005 7:00 PMSat 17/09/2005 9:00 PMSat 17/09/2005 
1:00 PM*Sat 17/09/2005 7:00 AM*Sat 17/09/2005 12:00 PM*
   Sat 17/09/2005 8:00 PMSat 17/09/2005 10:00 PMSat 17/09/2005 
2:00 PM*Sat 17/09/2005 8:00 AM*Sat 17/09/2005 1:00 PM*




Or it could the same times Sunday.

All these times seem ok, early morning, lunchtime, early evening, there is 
no middle of the night for anyone here.

However, I am thinking the subject matter too deep at this stage for me to 
make a worthwhile contribution 'at the time',
but I can go over logs and input at a later date.

Anyway, the times might be better I don't know.

Gav... 



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Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-15 Thread Ross Gardler

Gav wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: dev@forrest.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for 
views/xhtml2/internals



| Gav wrote:
| 
|  I will still be in the land of nod, I too am a spectator
|  and hope to catch up with a log file.
|
| That is the trouble with the world being round,
| there will always be someone that is asleep.
|
| We could edge it forward another hour or so
| but that makes the end time very late for Europeans.
|
| -David

So we have mainly Europe , America , the UK ( new home to the ashes)



Hurray (I've resisted this far ;-)

Now I can see maybe 3 lines there that are acceptable to most suitable times 
:-


  Australia - WA  Australia - N S W Germany 
United States - Florida  United Kingdom


  Sat 17/09/2005 6:00 PMSat 17/09/2005 8:00 PMSat 17/09/2005 
12:00 PM*Sat 17/09/2005 6:00 AM*Sat 17/09/2005 11:00 AM*
   Sat 17/09/2005 7:00 PMSat 17/09/2005 9:00 PMSat 17/09/2005 
1:00 PM*Sat 17/09/2005 7:00 AM*Sat 17/09/2005 12:00 PM*
   Sat 17/09/2005 8:00 PMSat 17/09/2005 10:00 PMSat 17/09/2005 
2:00 PM*Sat 17/09/2005 8:00 AM*Sat 17/09/2005 1:00 PM*





Or it could the same times Sunday.


Saturday is no good for me at all this week, Sunday evening/night (UK) 
is OK (and by night I mean I'm willing to stay up or get up early in 
order to make this happen). Unfortunately non of the times you highlight 
are in that range.


Next weekend I can't do anytime. The weekend after I'm currently clear 
all the way through.


During the week I can (generally) do any of these times.

For future meetings with more time to plan I think the times Gav 
suggests here are pretty good, in that they are not really late/early 
for anyone. It's just a shame that we want to do weekedns (from my 
perspective).


However, I am thinking the subject matter too deep at this stage for me to 
make a worthwhile contribution 'at the time',

but I can go over logs and input at a later date.


It is going to be impossible to find a time that suits everyone. I think 
the important thing is that we nominate a time and stick to it unless 
someone says they *want* to be present and cannot. Is that the case with 
the original proposal of 20:00 UTC?


I'm sorry if this sounds like some important members of the community 
are being excluded, that is not the intention. Please do speak up if you 
*want* to attend but are unable to do so (note that is exactly what I am 
doing above).


Ross


Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-14 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 12:37 +1000, David Crossley wrote:
 Ross Gardler wrote:
  David Crossley wrote:
  Ross Gardler wrote:
  Diwaker Gupta wrote:
  
  Looking for a suitable time. If it doesn't suit
  then propose another:
  http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=11month=9year=
  2005p1=136p2=48p3=176p4=240p5=224p6=213 1) Saturday, September 10,
  2005 at 20:00:00
  1) Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 19:00:00
  
  Wow, that was kind of sudden! :-) Is it still happening? I assume the 
  time's David mentioned are UTC? I have a busy weekend, but I'll still 
  try to be online whenever its happening.
  
  Not for me, I'm doing family stuf. I need at least a weeks notice to 
  take out time from my weekends - sorry.
  
  We need one to two hours sometime soon where we can get
  together and coordinate xhtml2/views/internals
  Would next weekend suit, or should we try during this week?
  
  For me:
  
  Anytime during the week apart from Monday 10am - 8pm (BST, UTC +1)
  
  Next weekend is OK on Sunday afternoon/evening (BST, UTC +1)
  
  I'll therefore suggest three times, I'm sticking with Davids suggested 
  start time since I guess it is somwhere in the middle of 
  Europe/Australia/US times, express you preferences or alternatives please:
  
  Tuesday 13th, 19:00 UTC
  Thursday 15th, 19:00 UTC
  Friday 16th, 19:00 UTC
  Sunday 18th, 19:00 UTC
 
 Thorsten, you were pleading with us to get more involved
 with views. We are trying to organise another IRC session.
 Are you interested?
 

Any from this times. We just to state *when*.

salu2

 Tim?
 
 -David
-- 
thorsten

Together we stand, divided we fall! 
Hey you (Pink Floyd)



Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-14 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
 Any from this times. We just to state *when*.

That is why i needed to start asking people specifically.
The lack of reply seemed that there was no interest.

Okay so lets try a different approach.

The design session will be by IRC and it will be
on Sunday 18 September starting at 20:00 UTC
for between one and two hours.

If anyone has a problem then please suggest
another time.

The next thing is that we need to decide
what we want to achieve from the meeting.

-David


Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-14 Thread addi
On Wednesday September 14 2005 4:17 am, David Crossley wrote:
 Thorsten Scherler wrote:
  Any from this times. We just to state *when*.

 That is why i needed to start asking people specifically.
 The lack of reply seemed that there was no interest.

 Okay so lets try a different approach.

 The design session will be by IRC and it will be
 on Sunday 18 September starting at 20:00 UTC
 for between one and two hours.

I will be on a plane to Texas at that time but I'm not a player, just a 
spectator right now so as long as it is logged, I'll read it later.
 If anyone has a problem then please suggest
 another time.

 The next thing is that we need to decide
 what we want to achieve from the meeting.

 -David


Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-14 Thread Gav....

- Original Message - 
From: addi [EMAIL PROTECTED] :)

|  The design session will be by IRC and it will be
|  on Sunday 18 September starting at 20:00 UTC
|  for between one and two hours.
| 

| I will be on a plane to Texas at that time but I'm not a player, just a 
| spectator right now so as long as it is logged, I'll read it later.

I will still be in the land of nod, I too am a spectator and hope to
catch up with a log file.

Thanks

Gav...


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Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-14 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 20:14 +0800, Gav wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: addi [EMAIL PROTECTED] :)
 
 |  The design session will be by IRC and it will be
 |  on Sunday 18 September starting at 20:00 UTC
 |  for between one and two hours.
 | 
 
 | I will be on a plane to Texas at that time but I'm not a player, just a 
 | spectator right now so as long as it is logged, I'll read it later.
 
 I will still be in the land of nod, I too am a spectator and hope to
 catch up with a log file.

You as well are a forrest player, everybody that participate on the
project is a player. ;-)

Which time would fit you better?

salu2
-- 
thorsten

Together we stand, divided we fall! 
Hey you (Pink Floyd)



Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-14 Thread Addi

Thorsten Scherler wrote:


On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 06:34 -0400, addi wrote:
 


On Wednesday September 14 2005 4:17 am, David Crossley wrote:
   


Thorsten Scherler wrote:
 


Any from this times. We just to state *when*.
   


That is why i needed to start asking people specifically.
The lack of reply seemed that there was no interest.

Okay so lets try a different approach.

The design session will be by IRC and it will be
on Sunday 18 September starting at 20:00 UTC
for between one and two hours.

 

I will be on a plane to Texas at that time but I'm not a player, just a 
spectator right now so as long as it is logged, I'll read it later.
   



 


If anyone has a problem then please suggest
another time.

 



Till now only two stated that there can at this time. Can you follow
David hint and suggest a time that suit you better. 


I would like to see/hear your feedback. ;-) You are already playing with
us that makes you a player. ;-)

salu2
 

Well, times I'm available would be Saturday 17th from about 10:00 - 
23:00 UTC or Sunday 18th from 10:00 - 17:00 UTC.





Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-14 Thread Tim Williams
On 9/14/05, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thorsten Scherler wrote:
  Any from this times. We just to state *when*.
 
 That is why i needed to start asking people specifically.
 The lack of reply seemed that there was no interest.
 
 Okay so lets try a different approach.
 
 The design session will be by IRC and it will be
 on Sunday 18 September starting at 20:00 UTC
 for between one and two hours.

+1


Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-14 Thread David Crossley
Gav wrote:
 
 I will still be in the land of nod, I too am a spectator
 and hope to catch up with a log file.

That is the trouble with the world being round,
there will always be someone that is asleep.

We could edge it forward another hour or so
but that makes the end time very late for Europeans.

-David


Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-13 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote:
 David Crossley wrote:
 Ross Gardler wrote:
 Diwaker Gupta wrote:
 
 Looking for a suitable time. If it doesn't suit
 then propose another:
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=11month=9year=
 2005p1=136p2=48p3=176p4=240p5=224p6=213 1) Saturday, September 10,
 2005 at 20:00:00
 1) Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 19:00:00
 
 Wow, that was kind of sudden! :-) Is it still happening? I assume the 
 time's David mentioned are UTC? I have a busy weekend, but I'll still 
 try to be online whenever its happening.
 
 Not for me, I'm doing family stuf. I need at least a weeks notice to 
 take out time from my weekends - sorry.
 
 We need one to two hours sometime soon where we can get
 together and coordinate xhtml2/views/internals
 Would next weekend suit, or should we try during this week?
 
 For me:
 
 Anytime during the week apart from Monday 10am - 8pm (BST, UTC +1)
 
 Next weekend is OK on Sunday afternoon/evening (BST, UTC +1)
 
 I'll therefore suggest three times, I'm sticking with Davids suggested 
 start time since I guess it is somwhere in the middle of 
 Europe/Australia/US times, express you preferences or alternatives please:
 
 Tuesday 13th, 19:00 UTC
 Thursday 15th, 19:00 UTC
 Friday 16th, 19:00 UTC
 Sunday 18th, 19:00 UTC

Thorsten, you were pleading with us to get more involved
with views. We are trying to organise another IRC session.
Are you interested?

Tim?

-David


Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-12 Thread Addi

Ross Gardler wrote:


David Crossley wrote:


...snip ...

We need one to two hours sometime soon where we can get
together and coordinate xhtml2/views/internals
Would next weekend suit, or should we try during this week?



For me:

Anytime during the week apart from Monday 10am - 8pm (BST, UTC +1)

Next weekend is OK on Sunday afternoon/evening (BST, UTC +1)

I'll therefore suggest three times, I'm sticking with Davids suggested 
start time since I guess it is somwhere in the middle of 
Europe/Australia/US times, express you preferences or alternatives 
please:


Tuesday 13th, 19:00 UTC
Thursday 15th, 19:00 UTC
Friday 16th, 19:00 UTC
Sunday 18th, 19:00 UTC

Ross


I'm available on Tues. and Thurs. and those times are good for me but I 
can do other times too.


- Addi



Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-11 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote:
 Diwaker Gupta wrote:
 Looking for a suitable time. If it doesn't suit
 then propose another:
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=11month=9year=
 2005p1=136p2=48p3=176p4=240p5=224p6=213 1) Saturday, September 10,
 2005 at 20:00:00
 1) Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 19:00:00
 
 Wow, that was kind of sudden! :-) Is it still happening? I assume the 
 time's David mentioned are UTC? I have a busy weekend, but I'll still try 
 to be online whenever its happening.
 
 Not for me, I'm doing family stuf. I need at least a weeks notice to 
 take out time from my weekends - sorry.

We need one to two hours sometime soon where we can get
together and coordinate xhtml2/views/internals
Would next weekend suit, or should we try during this week?
I can be there anytime of day or night, so someone
please suggest a new time.

-David


Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-11 Thread Ross Gardler

David Crossley wrote:

Ross Gardler wrote:


Diwaker Gupta wrote:


Looking for a suitable time. If it doesn't suit
then propose another:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=11month=9year=
2005p1=136p2=48p3=176p4=240p5=224p6=213 1) Saturday, September 10,
2005 at 20:00:00
1) Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 19:00:00


Wow, that was kind of sudden! :-) Is it still happening? I assume the 
time's David mentioned are UTC? I have a busy weekend, but I'll still try 
to be online whenever its happening.


Not for me, I'm doing family stuf. I need at least a weeks notice to 
take out time from my weekends - sorry.



We need one to two hours sometime soon where we can get
together and coordinate xhtml2/views/internals
Would next weekend suit, or should we try during this week?


For me:

Anytime during the week apart from Monday 10am - 8pm (BST, UTC +1)

Next weekend is OK on Sunday afternoon/evening (BST, UTC +1)

I'll therefore suggest three times, I'm sticking with Davids suggested 
start time since I guess it is somwhere in the middle of 
Europe/Australia/US times, express you preferences or alternatives please:


Tuesday 13th, 19:00 UTC
Thursday 15th, 19:00 UTC
Friday 16th, 19:00 UTC
Sunday 18th, 19:00 UTC

Ross


Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-10 Thread David Crossley
Gav wrote:
 At this stage, with me still learning a lot, I feel I would have not much to 
 'say'
 with using Skype at this stage, although I would certainly consider it in 
 the
 future, I will not use it this time round. That said, I would feel 
 comfortable
 using IRC again, being able to watch and learn and also ask where I get
 stuck.

We are not doing anything, just talking, and some
people will take notes.

 If IRC is used, those times are ok for me but I will be late joining the 
 party as
 being in Perth they translate to 4am and 3am. I could be around from 6am
 tomorrow. The second time will be Monday morning and I would have to go
 to work after a couple of hours.

We can change the time to suit. I chose that
because i thought that you were east coast Australia
and that fitted with the rest of the world.

 Not much time to get everyone together, but hope we get enough.

It is not looking good, so proably need to
wait another week.

-David


Re: Proposal: interactive planning session for views/xhtml2/internals

2005-09-10 Thread Diwaker Gupta
 Looking for a suitable time. If it doesn't suit
 then propose another:
 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=11month=9year=
2005p1=136p2=48p3=176p4=240p5=224p6=213 1) Saturday, September 10,
 2005 at 20:00:00
 1) Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 19:00:00

Wow, that was kind of sudden! :-) Is it still happening? I assume the time's 
David mentioned are UTC? I have a busy weekend, but I'll still try to be 
online whenever its happening.

Diwaker
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