Re: [jira] Created: (GSHELL-151) Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*

2009-01-02 Thread Donald Woods
IMHO - If they are truly subprojects of Geronimo (and use the same svn 
geronimo-committer group), then they should use org.apache.geronimo.* 
for their released artifacts.  Guess the complication now, is that they 
already have released artifacts using other groupIds, which would 
confuse users more now if we changed them



-Donald

Jason Dillon wrote:

On Dec 18, 2008, at 1:12 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Seems that as a community we should keep our project name as part of 
all groupIds we generate...


If no one else feels that way, then fine, I will not call for a vote, 
but my opinion stands... :-)


Just curious what you think about xbean and yoko packaging given your 
opinion.. ?


--jason





Re: [jira] Created: (GSHELL-151) Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*

2009-01-01 Thread Jason Dillon

On Dec 18, 2008, at 1:12 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Seems that as a community we should keep our project name as part  
of all groupIds we generate...


If no one else feels that way, then fine, I will not call for a  
vote, but my opinion stands... :-)


Just curious what you think about xbean and yoko packaging given your  
opinion.. ?


--jason




Re: [jira] Created: (GSHELL-151) Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*

2008-12-17 Thread Donald Woods
Seems that as a community we should keep our project name as part of 
all groupIds we generate...


If no one else feels that way, then fine, I will not call for a vote, 
but my opinion stands... :-)



-Donald


Kevan Miller wrote:


On Dec 17, 2008, at 7:27 AM, Jason Dillon wrote:



On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Seems like something we should vote on, given our specs, samples, 
components and plugin subprojects all use org.apache.geronimo.*


IMO specs, samples, components and plugins are all specific to 
geronimo, so the sub-package makes sense.  xbean on the other hand is 
not geronimo specific directly under o.a.


IMO GShell is not geronimo-specific, closer in nature to xbean than to 
specs or components.


So for me the change of packages makes a lot of sense.


I agree.

There's no requirement that sub-projects fall under a top-level project 
namespace. There are certainly lots of examples of this... XBean and 
Yoko being two examples within Geronimo. There are lot's of examples 
outside of Geronimo...


If we have a fundamental difference of opinion on this, then we can 
certainly put it to a group vote. Barring such a disagreement, I don't 
think a vote is needed... I'll assume that subsequent discussion will 
determine if a vote is needed.


--kevan



Re: [jira] Created: (GSHELL-151) Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*

2008-12-17 Thread Jason Dillon


On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Seems like something we should vote on, given our specs, samples,  
components and plugin subprojects all use org.apache.geronimo.*


IMO specs, samples, components and plugins are all specific to  
geronimo, so the sub-package makes sense.  xbean on the other hand is  
not geronimo specific directly under o.a.


IMO GShell is not geronimo-specific, closer in nature to xbean than to  
specs or components.


So for me the change of packages makes a lot of sense.

--jason





-Donald


Jason Dillon wrote:
No, it just seems that subprojects don't seem to use the parents  
namespace.  mina, activemq seems to follow that, even xbean does  
that.  so i figured I would drop the extra layer.

--jason
On Dec 16, 2008, at 12:39 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Are you proposing GShell becoming a TLP and not a Geronimo  
subproject?



-Donald


Jason Dillon (JIRA) wrote:

Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*
-
   Key: GSHELL-151
   URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ 
GSHELL-151

   Project: GShell
Issue Type: Improvement
Security Level: public (Regular issues)
Components: Build
  Reporter: Jason Dillon
  Assignee: Jason Dillon
  Priority: Critical
   Fix For: 1.0-beta-1




Re: [jira] Created: (GSHELL-151) Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*

2008-12-17 Thread Kevan Miller


On Dec 17, 2008, at 7:27 AM, Jason Dillon wrote:



On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Seems like something we should vote on, given our specs, samples,  
components and plugin subprojects all use org.apache.geronimo.*


IMO specs, samples, components and plugins are all specific to  
geronimo, so the sub-package makes sense.  xbean on the other hand  
is not geronimo specific directly under o.a.


IMO GShell is not geronimo-specific, closer in nature to xbean than  
to specs or components.


So for me the change of packages makes a lot of sense.


I agree.

There's no requirement that sub-projects fall under a top-level  
project namespace. There are certainly lots of examples of this...  
XBean and Yoko being two examples within Geronimo. There are lot's of  
examples outside of Geronimo...


If we have a fundamental difference of opinion on this, then we can  
certainly put it to a group vote. Barring such a disagreement, I don't  
think a vote is needed... I'll assume that subsequent discussion will  
determine if a vote is needed.


--kevan


Re: [jira] Created: (GSHELL-151) Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*

2008-12-16 Thread Jason Dillon

Sure. I just but that issue in there so I don't forget :-)

--jason


On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org wrote:

Seems like something we should vote on, given our specs, samples,  
components and plugin subprojects all use org.apache.geronimo.*



-Donald


Jason Dillon wrote:
No, it just seems that subprojects don't seem to use the parents  
namespace.  mina, activemq seems to follow that, even xbean does  
that.  so i figured I would drop the extra layer.

--jason
On Dec 16, 2008, at 12:39 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Are you proposing GShell becoming a TLP and not a Geronimo  
subproject?



-Donald


Jason Dillon (JIRA) wrote:

Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*
-
   Key: GSHELL-151
   URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ 
GSHELL-151

   Project: GShell
Issue Type: Improvement
Security Level: public (Regular issues)
Components: Build
  Reporter: Jason Dillon
  Assignee: Jason Dillon
  Priority: Critical
   Fix For: 1.0-beta-1


Re: [jira] Created: (GSHELL-151) Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*

2008-12-15 Thread Donald Woods

Are you proposing GShell becoming a TLP and not a Geronimo subproject?


-Donald


Jason Dillon (JIRA) wrote:

Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*
-

 Key: GSHELL-151
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GSHELL-151
 Project: GShell
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Security Level: public (Regular issues)
  Components: Build
Reporter: Jason Dillon
Assignee: Jason Dillon
Priority: Critical
 Fix For: 1.0-beta-1






Re: [jira] Created: (GSHELL-151) Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*

2008-12-15 Thread Jason Dillon
No, it just seems that subprojects don't seem to use the parents  
namespace.  mina, activemq seems to follow that, even xbean does  
that.  so i figured I would drop the extra layer.


--jason


On Dec 16, 2008, at 12:39 AM, Donald Woods wrote:


Are you proposing GShell becoming a TLP and not a Geronimo subproject?


-Donald


Jason Dillon (JIRA) wrote:

Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*
-
Key: GSHELL-151
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GSHELL-151
Project: GShell
 Issue Type: Improvement
 Security Level: public (Regular issues)
 Components: Build
   Reporter: Jason Dillon
   Assignee: Jason Dillon
   Priority: Critical
Fix For: 1.0-beta-1




Re: [jira] Created: (GSHELL-151) Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*

2008-12-15 Thread Donald Woods
Seems like something we should vote on, given our specs, samples, 
components and plugin subprojects all use org.apache.geronimo.*



-Donald


Jason Dillon wrote:
No, it just seems that subprojects don't seem to use the parents 
namespace.  mina, activemq seems to follow that, even xbean does that.  
so i figured I would drop the extra layer.


--jason


On Dec 16, 2008, at 12:39 AM, Donald Woods wrote:


Are you proposing GShell becoming a TLP and not a Geronimo subproject?


-Donald


Jason Dillon (JIRA) wrote:

Repackage org.apache.geronimo.gshell.* - org.apache.gshell.*
-
Key: GSHELL-151
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GSHELL-151
Project: GShell
 Issue Type: Improvement
 Security Level: public (Regular issues)
 Components: Build
   Reporter: Jason Dillon
   Assignee: Jason Dillon
   Priority: Critical
Fix For: 1.0-beta-1