Re: svn commit: r573772 - in /tomcat: sandbox/gdev6x/ trunk/
On Sep 12, 2007, at 7:44 AM, Jacek Laskowski wrote: On 9/8/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I raised a concern about moving trunk to sandbox since it's the only branch that contains the annotation support needed by Geronimo. A committer responded that he will think about maintaining a "patchset" with this annotation support. See http://tinyurl.com/2enw25 How can we work it around? Shall we put Tomcat codebase into our repo and maintain ourselves or start the G-T integration over with the newest trunk bits? Well, we already use a patched version of Tomcat and distribute the binary in our repository dir. There was discussion about releasing a suitably named binary (rather than maintaining in our svn tree). Don't think that anyone has tackled this, yet. Continuing on this patch should give the Tomcat community time to make amends... --kevan
Re: svn commit: r573772 - in /tomcat: sandbox/gdev6x/ trunk/
After voting to move tomcat/trunk to sandbox there has been some good discussion about the development model for a new trunk, mainly whether it will follow some form of RTC. When a new trunk is created I will ask them to reapply the annotation support patch and offer to help if needed. If Tomcat decides to use RTC then it's possible that the patch won't receive enough binding votes but I'm optimistic that there will be good support. I don't expect there would be any technical issues with it since it was actually developed against the 6.0.x branch, has passed TCK, and David and Remy worked through all of the known issues as it was applied. Filip has also been extremely helpful and provides good insights for this type of thing. As that discussion plays out we can continue to create a special build of tomcat using the procedure described in https:// issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3206. The only difference being that the annotation support would need to be merged from tomcat/ sandbox/gdev6x onto their latest 6.0.x tag instead of merging it from trunk. Right now the Tomcat binaries used by Geronimo 2.x are kept in SVN under geronimo/server/**/repository. We'll probably need to stick with that approach for a while anyway since the Tomcat team (understandably) has had some reservations about publishing snapshots of trunk, see http://www.nabble.com/please-publish-a-snapshot-tf3850372.html Another possibility would be to investigate whether the basic annotation support provided in the already released versions of Tomcat 6.0.x could be adequate for Geronimo's needs. As I recall we had that working at one point but it had some limitations. Best wishes, Paul On Sep 12, 2007, at 7:44 AM, Jacek Laskowski wrote: On 9/8/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I raised a concern about moving trunk to sandbox since it's the only branch that contains the annotation support needed by Geronimo. A committer responded that he will think about maintaining a "patchset" with this annotation support. See http://tinyurl.com/2enw25 How can we work it around? Shall we put Tomcat codebase into our repo and maintain ourselves or start the G-T integration over with the newest trunk bits? Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
Re: svn commit: r573772 - in /tomcat: sandbox/gdev6x/ trunk/
On 9/8/07, Paul McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I raised a concern about moving trunk to sandbox since it's the only > branch that contains the annotation support needed by Geronimo. A > committer responded that he will think about maintaining a "patchset" > with this annotation support. See http://tinyurl.com/2enw25 How can we work it around? Shall we put Tomcat codebase into our repo and maintain ourselves or start the G-T integration over with the newest trunk bits? Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
Re: Fwd: svn commit: r573772 - in /tomcat: sandbox/gdev6x/ trunk/
On 9/11/07, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sorry about the hassle, but I had little support keeping it in trunk, > the decision to move it to sandbox had nothing to do with comet, or > anything else, simply egos that got in the way of rational decisions. Hi, I'm really worried about Tomcat integration support in Geronimo having read the email. What makes it even more frustrating is the fact that Apache Tomcat is a flagship product of the entire product set of ASF around Java EE and when we came to the point of integrating Tomcat and made Java EE TCK passed possible it went away with a mere svn mv. I hope there's more than egos that can explain the decision. Thanks Filip for your support. Greatly appreciated. Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
Re: svn commit: r573772 - in /tomcat: sandbox/gdev6x/ trunk/
Thanks Filip for your continuing support of the Geronimo project, and of course for the important contributions you make to the Tomcat project. It must be frustrating to take a step back when so much progress has been made. But you did the right thing for the community and I'm confident things will get back on track quickly. Best wishes, Paul On Sep 11, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote: The whole debate was a huge fiasco, and unfortunately the one that screams the most and makes up the best stories win, not necessarily what is best for the community or the product. I had no choice but to follow what was going on. I'm not sure what is going to happen to this code base at this point, there is a lot more bs to be resolved before anything happens. I'm waiting to see if the board will say anything about the issue, if they stay dormant, then most likely that codebase will to. There is no way an API change like that will make it's way into a stable branch like 6.0.x. sorry about the hassle, but I had little support keeping it in trunk, the decision to move it to sandbox had nothing to do with comet, or anything else, simply egos that got in the way of rational decisions. Once again, my apologies, but you can't say I didn't try :| Filip Paul McMahan wrote: FYI, the Tomcat team decided to move tomcat/trunk to sandbox while details over RTC vs. CTR and their comet implementation are being resolved. The Geronimo 2.x Tomcat assemblies use a patched version of what was in tomcat/trunk for the enhanced annotation support. See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3206 for details on how Geronimo's patched version of Tomcat is built. I raised a concern about moving trunk to sandbox since it's the only branch that contains the annotation support needed by Geronimo. A committer responded that he will think about maintaining a "patchset" with this annotation support. See http:// tinyurl.com/2enw25 Best wishes, Paul Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 7, 2007 10:35:34 PM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: svn commit: r573772 - in /tomcat: sandbox/gdev6x/ trunk/ Reply-To: "Tomcat Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Author: fhanik Date: Fri Sep 7 19:35:33 2007 New Revision: 573772 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=573772&view=rev Log: (empty) Added: tomcat/sandbox/gdev6x/ - copied from r573771, tomcat/trunk/ Removed: tomcat/trunk/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: svn commit: r573772 - in /tomcat: sandbox/gdev6x/ trunk/
The whole debate was a huge fiasco, and unfortunately the one that screams the most and makes up the best stories win, not necessarily what is best for the community or the product. I had no choice but to follow what was going on. I'm not sure what is going to happen to this code base at this point, there is a lot more bs to be resolved before anything happens. I'm waiting to see if the board will say anything about the issue, if they stay dormant, then most likely that codebase will to. There is no way an API change like that will make it's way into a stable branch like 6.0.x. sorry about the hassle, but I had little support keeping it in trunk, the decision to move it to sandbox had nothing to do with comet, or anything else, simply egos that got in the way of rational decisions. Once again, my apologies, but you can't say I didn't try :| Filip Paul McMahan wrote: FYI, the Tomcat team decided to move tomcat/trunk to sandbox while details over RTC vs. CTR and their comet implementation are being resolved. The Geronimo 2.x Tomcat assemblies use a patched version of what was in tomcat/trunk for the enhanced annotation support. See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3206 for details on how Geronimo's patched version of Tomcat is built. I raised a concern about moving trunk to sandbox since it's the only branch that contains the annotation support needed by Geronimo. A committer responded that he will think about maintaining a "patchset" with this annotation support. See http://tinyurl.com/2enw25 Best wishes, Paul Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 7, 2007 10:35:34 PM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: svn commit: r573772 - in /tomcat: sandbox/gdev6x/ trunk/ Reply-To: "Tomcat Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Author: fhanik Date: Fri Sep 7 19:35:33 2007 New Revision: 573772 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=573772&view=rev Log: (empty) Added: tomcat/sandbox/gdev6x/ - copied from r573771, tomcat/trunk/ Removed: tomcat/trunk/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: svn commit: r573772 - in /tomcat: sandbox/gdev6x/ trunk/
FYI, the Tomcat team decided to move tomcat/trunk to sandbox while details over RTC vs. CTR and their comet implementation are being resolved. The Geronimo 2.x Tomcat assemblies use a patched version of what was in tomcat/trunk for the enhanced annotation support. See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-3206 for details on how Geronimo's patched version of Tomcat is built. I raised a concern about moving trunk to sandbox since it's the only branch that contains the annotation support needed by Geronimo. A committer responded that he will think about maintaining a "patchset" with this annotation support. See http://tinyurl.com/2enw25 Best wishes, Paul Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 7, 2007 10:35:34 PM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: svn commit: r573772 - in /tomcat: sandbox/gdev6x/ trunk/ Reply-To: "Tomcat Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Author: fhanik Date: Fri Sep 7 19:35:33 2007 New Revision: 573772 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=573772&view=rev Log: (empty) Added: tomcat/sandbox/gdev6x/ - copied from r573771, tomcat/trunk/ Removed: tomcat/trunk/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
