Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread Ruediger Pluem


On 01/06/2008 07:47 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote:
 
 On 01/06/2008 11:39 AM, Ruediger Pluem wrote:
 On 01/06/2008 02:20 AM, Nick Kew wrote:
 On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:28:33 +0100
 Ruediger Pluem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 01/05/2008 07:04 PM, Nick Kew wrote:
 On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 12:38:58 +0100
 Ruediger Pluem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok. Can you setup a tcpdump between proxy and server and between
 client and proxy? I guess the network traces would be very helpful
 in finding out where things are starting to get wrong.
 One testcase with its tcpdump at
 http://people.apache.org/~niq/2.2.7/
 Thanks for this, but I think this is not sufficient:

 1. It seems the dump is incomplete as I cannot see a 0 chunk at the
 end. 2. I would prefer the binary dump as it offers more
 possibilities to analyse it with wireshark.

 Sorry for being that demanding :-)
 Do you mean as in tcpdump -x?  I've uploaded a pair of dumps
 (one of client-proxy, the other of proxy-server) at the same
 location.

 
 Ok, next one. I missed to set the correct state in some situations.
 Can you please give it a try again?

Ok, hopefully final one. Though I still have some optimizations in the
pipe they do not relate directly to the bug.
Nick could you please test latest trunk (already contains optimizations) and
2.2.x with r609394 and r609538 (minimum stuff to fix all aspects of the bug
including chunk extensions) backported which should apply cleanly, again?
Thanks.
Once the tests are positive I will propose r609394 and r609538 for backport
such that TR of 2.2.x and all other branches can start soon.
I will also propose the optimizations. If someone has cycles to review then
fine, if not then in 2.2.9 :-).

Regards

Rüdiger




Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread Joe Orton
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 11:29:43AM +0100, Ruediger Pluem wrote:
 Ok, hopefully final one. Though I still have some optimizations in the
 pipe they do not relate directly to the bug.
 Nick could you please test latest trunk (already contains optimizations) and
 2.2.x with r609394 and r609538 (minimum stuff to fix all aspects of the bug
 including chunk extensions) backported which should apply cleanly, again?
 Thanks.
 Once the tests are positive I will propose r609394 and r609538 for backport
 such that TR of 2.2.x and all other branches can start soon.
 I will also propose the optimizations. If someone has cycles to review then
 fine, if not then in 2.2.9 :-).

I've added a test case to t/modules/proxy.t in perl-framework which 
exercises the non-blockingness of the chunked encoding parser a little 
by dripfeeding a chunked response at it, byte by byte, it passes with 
the trunk and fails with 2.2.x FWIW.

joe


Re: svn commit: r609549 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/http/http_filters.c

2008-01-07 Thread Takashi Sato
Type of HTTP error code is int, isn't it?

r609549:
  
 +static apr_status_t bail_out_on_error(http_ctx_t *ctx,
 +  ap_filter_t *f,
 +  apr_status_t http_error)
 +{

r609550:
+apr_status_t http_error = HTTP_REQUEST_ENTITY_TOO_LARGE;


Re: httpd trunk - How to get info that ap_requires used to return

2008-01-07 Thread Rolf Banting

 My immediate aim is to test Isaac's UDP support patch with mod_perl - I
 want to make a case for apache as a viable alternative for our service
 platform and udp support is essential. If I can get the mod_perl  test suite
 to pass I increase the credibility of my proposal.


The mod_perl  tests that use ap_requires are quite simple - the Require
lines are retrieved via ap_requires and then the values compared against
data in the current request. Example:

In the conf:

Require user goo bar
Require group bar tar

In the test code:

# extract just the requirement entries
my %require =
map { my ($k, $v) = split /\s+/, $_-{requirement}, 2; ($k, $v||'') }
@{ $r-requires };
debug \%require;



return Apache2::Const::SERVER_ERROR unless $require{user} eq $users;
return Apache2::Const::SERVER_ERROR unless $require{group} eq $groups;

$require{user}   should be 'goo bar'
$require{group} should be 'bar tar'

I don't yet have much detailed knowledge of the httpd code - my naive
interpretation is that ap_requires returned a list of require_line structs
where the 'requirement' field is
everything after the 'Require' in the config line. If there was some
way to get a list of the Require statements in the conf file it would
be an easy matter to re-jig the test code.

I suppose I could parse the config file directly (e.g. with Config::General )
to get the Require lines - but I would prefer to use any in-built httpd
support if possible.

From my naive perspective I'd offer  that per-directory queries for
configuration
information such as all Require statements are useful things to have.

I intend no criticism of the re-design.

Regards,

Rolf


Re: svn commit: r609549 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/http/http_filters.c

2008-01-07 Thread Ruediger Pluem


On 01/07/2008 12:41 PM, Takashi Sato wrote:
 Type of HTTP error code is int, isn't it?

Nice catch. Fixed in r609609.

Regards

Rüdiger



Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread Jim Jagielski

From what I can tell, all 3 versions should be not-released
and we should instead move ahead with 1.3.41, 2.0.63 and 2.2.8
to address the current concerns...

1.3.41 looks releasable with the current state of HEAD.
2.0.63 requires one more vote for the ssl lib stuff
2.2.8 requires more testing/review of the drip-feed, chunked
patches, as well as an update by Rüdiger concerning
his optimization status.

Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
On Jan 7, 2008 3:03 PM, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From what I can tell, all 3 versions should be not-released
 and we should instead move ahead with 1.3.41, 2.0.63 and 2.2.8
 to address the current concerns...

 1.3.41 looks releasable with the current state of HEAD.
 2.0.63 requires one more vote for the ssl lib stuff
 2.2.8 requires more testing/review of the drip-feed, chunked
 patches, as well as an update by Rüdiger concerning
 his optimization status.

+1 on not-releasing and moving on to 1.3.41, 2.0.63 and 2.2.8 but only
if its in within a short time span.

-- 
~Jorge


Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread Jim Jagielski


On Jan 7, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Jorge Schrauwen wrote:


On Jan 7, 2008 3:03 PM, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From what I can tell, all 3 versions should be not-released
and we should instead move ahead with 1.3.41, 2.0.63 and 2.2.8
to address the current concerns...

1.3.41 looks releasable with the current state of HEAD.
2.0.63 requires one more vote for the ssl lib stuff
2.2.8 requires more testing/review of the drip-feed, chunked
patches, as well as an update by Rüdiger concerning
his optimization status.


+1 on not-releasing and moving on to 1.3.41, 2.0.63 and 2.2.8 but only
if its in within a short time span.



I'm expecting this week... The main question is having more
eyes look at the chunked patch, both the stripped down version
which solves the bug as well as any potential optimizations.

Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread Ruediger Pluem


On 01/07/2008 03:03 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
 From what I can tell, all 3 versions should be not-released
 and we should instead move ahead with 1.3.41, 2.0.63 and 2.2.8
 to address the current concerns...
 
 1.3.41 looks releasable with the current state of HEAD.
 2.0.63 requires one more vote for the ssl lib stuff

Added missing vote.

 2.2.8 requires more testing/review of the drip-feed, chunked
 patches, as well as an update by Rüdiger concerning
 his optimization status.

Added proposals. Bug fixes proposal is ready to vote, optimizations
proposal will be updated with a conflict free patch once the bug fix
is committed. All optimizations are committed to trunk and I finished
my optimizations.

Regards

Rüdiger




Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread Ruediger Pluem


On 01/07/2008 03:55 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote:
 
 On 01/07/2008 03:03 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
 From what I can tell, all 3 versions should be not-released
 and we should instead move ahead with 1.3.41, 2.0.63 and 2.2.8
 to address the current concerns...

 1.3.41 looks releasable with the current state of HEAD.
 2.0.63 requires one more vote for the ssl lib stuff
 
 Added missing vote.

Committed in r609625.

Regards

Rüdiger



Re: httpd trunk - How to get info that ap_requires used to return

2008-01-07 Thread Brad Nicholes
 On 1/7/2008 at 4:56 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Rolf Banting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 My immediate aim is to test Isaac's UDP support patch with mod_perl - I
 want to make a case for apache as a viable alternative for our service
 platform and udp support is essential. If I can get the mod_perl  test suite
 to pass I increase the credibility of my proposal.
 
 
 The mod_perl  tests that use ap_requires are quite simple - the Require
 lines are retrieved via ap_requires and then the values compared against
 data in the current request. Example:
 
 In the conf:
 
 Require user goo bar
 Require group bar tar
 
 In the test code:
 
 # extract just the requirement entries
 my %require =
 map { my ($k, $v) = split /\s+/, $_-{requirement}, 2; ($k, $v||'') }
 @{ $r-requires };
 debug \%require;
 
 
 
 return Apache2::Const::SERVER_ERROR unless $require{user} eq $users;
 return Apache2::Const::SERVER_ERROR unless $require{group} eq $groups;
 
 $require{user}   should be 'goo bar'
 $require{group} should be 'bar tar'
 
 I don't yet have much detailed knowledge of the httpd code - my naive
 interpretation is that ap_requires returned a list of require_line structs
 where the 'requirement' field is
 everything after the 'Require' in the config line. If there was some
 way to get a list of the Require statements in the conf file it would
 be an easy matter to re-jig the test code.
 
 I suppose I could parse the config file directly (e.g. with Config::General 
 )
 to get the Require lines - but I would prefer to use any in-built httpd
 support if possible.
 
 From my naive perspective I'd offer  that per-directory queries for
 configuration
 information such as all Require statements are useful things to have.
 

The problem is that the Require statements are no longer stored as a list of 
require_line structs so retrieving them as such isn't possible.  The Require 
statements are added to a logic tree as they are read from the configuration 
and then whenever authorization is done for that Directory, the logic tree is 
traversed and a result is returned.  Obviously if there is only a single 
Require statement in the Directory, the logic tree would be very simple, but 
this isn't something that you can count on.  The authorization logic could be 
anything.  As far as the configuration file is concerned, it could look like 
anything from 

Require User goo bar
Require Group bar tar

which would be interpreted as:

if (User == 'goo') || (User == 'bar') || (Group == 'bar') || (Group == 'tar') 
then
   allow
else
   deny

to:

Require User goo
SatisfyAll
Require Group foo
  SatisfyOne
 Require User bar
 Require Group tar
   /SatisfyOne
/SatisfyAll

which is interpreted as:

If (user == 'goo') || (group == 'foo'   (User == 'bar' || Group == 'tar')) 
then
   Allow
else
   Deny


It appears that your test script doesn't really care about the authorization 
result but rather if a Require statement simply exists with a given value.  At 
this point there isn't a way to get that information through an API.  I guess 
an API could be added that given a specific value would traverse the logic tree 
to validate that a matching Require statement exists.  But outside of the Perl 
test, I'm not sure what usefulness an API like that would have.

Brad



Re: Test suite on Darwin was Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Jan 6, 2008 11:41 PM, Sander Temme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I actually built my own perl 5.10.0, put its bin in front of my PATH
 and installed all the requisite modules. I did this mainly because I
 don't want to mess with the system installation, but prefer to hose
 one I can easily replace. (:

That's what I thought.

 Perl  5.10.0
 Crypt::SSLeay 0.57
 LWP   5.808
 MIME::Base64  3.07_01
 Digest::MD5   2.36_01

  I'm kind of concerned if we diverge on Intel vs. PowerPC...  -- justin

 Your failure pattern actually smacks of broken Crypt::SSLeay,
 Digest::MD5 or even MIME::Base64 fu: try forcing those modules to
 (re)install.

For the 2.2.8 go-'round, I'll try again.  But, at least I'll have
'known good versions' this time.  Thanks.  -- justin


Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Jan 7, 2008 2:34 AM, Joe Orton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've added a test case to t/modules/proxy.t in perl-framework which
 exercises the non-blockingness of the chunked encoding parser a little
 by dripfeeding a chunked response at it, byte by byte, it passes with
 the trunk and fails with 2.2.x FWIW.

Thanks!  -- justin


Output filters in subrequests created by mod_actions (httpd 2.2.x)

2008-01-07 Thread Christian Seiler

Hi!

I hope this wasn't already discussed previously (I didn't find anything
in the archives, but maybe I overlooked something), if so, sorry for the
noise.

I recently stumbled upon the following behaviour of Apache (2.2.x,
though it will probably apply to the developement branch as well) which
I found to be quite odd at first. In order to explain better, I created
a very simple test case:

/demo/ contains the following files:

.htaccess:
-
Options +ExecCGI +Includes
AddOutputFilter INCLUDES .demo

AddHandler cgi-script .pl
AddHandler demo .demo
Action demo /demo/test.pl

Files test2.pl
  SetOutputFilter INCLUDES
/Files
-

test.pl and test2.pl (both executable):
-
#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;
use warnings;

print Content-Type: text/plain\n\n;
print '!--#include virtual=/demo/test.txt--';
-

test.txt:
-
This is a test!
-

test.demo:
-
Empty
-

If I call /demo/test.pl, my browser will display the text !--#include
virtual=/demo/test.txt-- - which is fine, because there are no output
filters defined for test.pl.

If I call /demo/test2.pl, my browser will display the text This is a
test! - which is fine too, because there's an explicit output filter
for test2.pl.

If I call /demo/test.demo, my browser will display the text !--#include
virtual=/demo/test.txt-- - which - er - is not exactly what I intended.

If I change the .htaccess to Action demo /demo/test2.pl and call
/demo/test.demo, my browser will display the text This is a test! -
which is fine.

My basic problem is that the output filters set for the original file
that was called are not copied when mod_actions does an internal
subrequest to execute the action.

The culprit is the function internal_internal_redirect in
server/http_request.c which only copies the protocol filters but not all
the input filters:

new-proto_output_filters  = r-proto_output_filters;
new-proto_input_filters   = r-proto_input_filters;

new-output_filters  = new-proto_output_filters;
new-input_filters   = new-proto_input_filters;

Which of course is fine by itself because otherwise this could cause
quite some headaches in all of the other use cases of internal redirects
(think, for example, mod_rewrite).

Ok, a CGI script generating a SSI directive is not the best example for
a useful use case. But take a mod_deflate, i.e. replace INCLUDES with
DEFLATE in the above example. That's an extremly useful output filter.
The problem is that it won't work if an internal redirect via Action
occurs if it's set only on the file types that are assigned to action.

To provide a useful example, have a look at PHP installations: You can
either install it as an Apache Module (mod_php) or as CGI/FastCGI in
which case you'd use Action. If you install it as a module,
AddOutputFilter DEFLATE .php works just as expected - but if you install
it as CGI/FastCGI, it won't. Of course, you could make sure that the
filter is added to the CGI wrapper of PHP itself (i.e. the target of the
Action line) but this is a) counter-intuitive and b) won't account for
configurations where you only want to activate it for certain
subdirectories or similar. Of course, this is all work-aroundable by
defining multiple actions with the same target but that makes the
configuration unecessarily complicated and well - counter-intuitive.

This applies to any other case where you'd use Action as well, PHP is
just an example (albeit probably a very prominent one).

This could be addressed by altering the ap_internal_redirect_handler
function to add the normal output filters after calling
internal_internal_redirect. I grepped the httpd source and found 4
occurrences where the function is called: In mod_actions which is the
case I described and in mod_asis, mod_cgi and mod_cgid which is used to
do an internal redirect if a Location: /... header was set by the CGI
script. I haven't looked at third-party modules so I don't know how it's
used there. But in all four cases where this occurs inside httpd I don't
see a problem in performing this change.

Any thoughts on this?

Regards,
Christian


Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.

William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

Jim Jagielski wrote:

 From what I can tell, all 3 versions should be not-released
and we should instead move ahead with 1.3.41, 2.0.63 and 2.2.8
to address the current concerns...

1.3.41 looks releasable with the current state of HEAD.
2.0.63 requires one more vote for the ssl lib stuff
2.2.8 requires more testing/review of the drip-feed, chunked
patches, as well as an update by Rüdiger concerning
his optimization status.


Tom Donovan's confirmed the state of mpm_winnt as again working
with mod perl across service, console, and -X modes (and some
other slightly more obscure models).

I'll backport the correction to 2.0.63 and 2.2.8 and put this
whole issue to bed.


Now committed.

Agreed with the above; once chunking of proxy works as expected,
handles invalid data properly, does not generate invalid responses,
I'll be happy to see 2.2.8 put to rest as well.


Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread Steffen


- Original Message - 
From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: dev@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Monday, 07 January, 2008 19:52
Subject: Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7
available



William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

Jim Jagielski wrote:

 From what I can tell, all 3 versions should be not-released
and we should instead move ahead with 1.3.41, 2.0.63 and 2.2.8
to address the current concerns...

1.3.41 looks releasable with the current state of HEAD.
2.0.63 requires one more vote for the ssl lib stuff
2.2.8 requires more testing/review of the drip-feed, chunked
patches, as well as an update by Rüdiger concerning
his optimization status.


Tom Donovan's confirmed the state of mpm_winnt as again working
with mod perl across service, console, and -X modes (and some
other slightly more obscure models).

I'll backport the correction to 2.0.63 and 2.2.8 and put this
whole issue to bed.


Now committed.

Agreed with the above; once chunking of proxy works as expected,
handles invalid data properly, does not generate invalid responses,
I'll be happy to see 2.2.8 put to rest as well.



Indeed mod_perl is working in the mentioned cases,
But, in console, it breaks the control over the Dos-box. It is cleared and
had to kill httpd.exe's manually when I want to stop Apache.

Steffen



Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Donovan

Steffen wrote:


- Original Message - From: William A. Rowe, Jr. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: dev@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Monday, 07 January, 2008 19:52
Subject: Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7
available


William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:


Tom Donovan's confirmed the state of mpm_winnt as again working
with mod perl across service, console, and -X modes (and some
other slightly more obscure models).

I'll backport the correction to 2.0.63 and 2.2.8 and put this
whole issue to bed.


Now committed.


Indeed mod_perl is working in the mentioned cases,
But, in console, it breaks the control over the Dos-box. It is cleared and
had to kill httpd.exe's manually when I want to stop Apache.

Steffen


Arrrgh!  I can't believe I missed that!  You're right Steffen.

FWIW - I'm in the habit of shutting Apache down by running a program which sets the 
ap{pid}_shutdown event, and I didn't even think to try clicking the [X] in the upper-right corner 
of the Apache window.


With the current code, closing the child window doesn't stop Apache, it just removes the window. 
With the previous patch this wasn't a problem - Apache shut down OK.  I don't really know why, but 
I'll try to find out.


-tom-




Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread Steffen
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: dev@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Monday, 07 January, 2008 20:38
Subject: Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 
available




Steffen wrote:


- Original Message - From: William A. Rowe, Jr. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: dev@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Monday, 07 January, 2008 19:52
Subject: Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7
available


William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:


Tom Donovan's confirmed the state of mpm_winnt as again working
with mod perl across service, console, and -X modes (and some
other slightly more obscure models).

I'll backport the correction to 2.0.63 and 2.2.8 and put this
whole issue to bed.


Now committed.


Indeed mod_perl is working in the mentioned cases,
But, in console, it breaks the control over the Dos-box. It is cleared 
and

had to kill httpd.exe's manually when I want to stop Apache.

Steffen


Arrrgh!  I can't believe I missed that!  You're right Steffen.

FWIW - I'm in the habit of shutting Apache down by running a program which 
sets the ap{pid}_shutdown event, and I didn't even think to try clicking 
the [X] in the upper-right corner of the Apache window.


With the current code, closing the child window doesn't stop Apache, it 
just removes the window. With the previous patch this wasn't a problem - 
Apache shut down OK.  I don't really know why, but I'll try to find out.


-tom-



Also with this patch it is not outputting to the Dos-box.

Tom, it does not happens with your patch which included in 2.2.7 download at 
the Apache Lounge. Only the latest patch from Bill has the issue.


Steffen 



Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.

Tom Donovan wrote:

Steffen wrote:


- Original Message - From: William A. Rowe, Jr. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: dev@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Monday, 07 January, 2008 19:52
Subject: Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7
available


William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:


Tom Donovan's confirmed the state of mpm_winnt as again working
with mod perl across service, console, and -X modes (and some
other slightly more obscure models).

I'll backport the correction to 2.0.63 and 2.2.8 and put this
whole issue to bed.


Now committed.


Indeed mod_perl is working in the mentioned cases,
But, in console, it breaks the control over the Dos-box. It is cleared 
and

had to kill httpd.exe's manually when I want to stop Apache.

Steffen


Arrrgh!  I can't believe I missed that!  You're right Steffen.

FWIW - I'm in the habit of shutting Apache down by running a program 
which sets the ap{pid}_shutdown event, and I didn't even think to try 
clicking the [X] in the upper-right corner of the Apache window.


With the current code, closing the child window doesn't stop Apache, it 
just removes the window. With the previous patch this wasn't a problem - 
Apache shut down OK.  I don't really know why, but I'll try to find out.


I am going to hazard a guess.  As of pre_config hook, we no longer have
a single handle to the console window; the have all been entirely
detached (stdin/stdout/stderr).  In effect, I think win32 is treating
this as being daemonized and will no longer pass console events to the
child.

This should not be true for -X mode, perhaps it is also?

The real answer may just be handling -k stop for a pid in a process,
but that gets just a little tricky with respect to console vs service.

Bill




Re: Pre-release test tarballs of httpd 1.3.40, 2.0.62 and 2.2.7 available

2008-01-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.

Steffen wrote:


Also with this patch it is not outputting to the Dos-box.

Tom, it does not happens with your patch which included in 2.2.7 
download at the Apache Lounge. Only the latest patch from Bill has the 
issue.


Of course not, Tom's proposed patch and the final patch adopted both
stopped all such output to fix perl, as you had asked for.

Either have a cake for decoration, or eat it ;-)

Bill