JIRA problem

2014-07-18 Thread Jay Kreps
I can't seem to assign JIRAs to anyone but a few committer people.
Does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? Is this happening
to anyone else?

-Jay


Re: JIRA problem

2014-07-18 Thread Jarek Jarcec Cecho
You have to add those people as a contributors in JIRA project administration. 
Click on “roles” in the KAFKA project administration and find field 
“contributors”.

Jarcec

On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't seem to assign JIRAs to anyone but a few committer people.
 Does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? Is this happening
 to anyone else?
 
 -Jay



Re: JIRA problem

2014-07-18 Thread Jarek Jarcec Cecho
I would assume that you will have to go to this page:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/KAFKA/roles

I don’t have access there, I’ve just replaced project name SQOOP with KAFKA :-)

Jarcec

On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Jarek Jarcec Cecho jar...@apache.org wrote:

 You have to add those people as a contributors in JIRA project 
 administration. Click on “roles” in the KAFKA project administration and find 
 field “contributors”.
 
 Jarcec
 
 On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I can't seem to assign JIRAs to anyone but a few committer people.
 Does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? Is this happening
 to anyone else?
 
 -Jay
 



Re: JIRA problem

2014-07-18 Thread Joe Stein
Shouldn't we make sure that the people in the contributor group have signed
and sent in their ICLA http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt much like we
do for confluence?  This helps to control also that all contributors have
signed an ICLA too.

/***
 Joe Stein
 Founder, Principal Consultant
 Big Data Open Source Security LLC
 http://www.stealth.ly
 Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
/


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jarek Jarcec Cecho jar...@apache.org
wrote:

 You have to add those people as a contributors in JIRA project
 administration. Click on “roles” in the KAFKA project administration and
 find field “contributors”.

 Jarcec

 On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:

  I can't seem to assign JIRAs to anyone but a few committer people.
  Does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? Is this happening
  to anyone else?
 
  -Jay




Re: JIRA problem

2014-07-18 Thread Jarek Jarcec Cecho
To my best knowledge ICLA is required only for committers - people that do have 
commit bit on ASF repositories.

Contributors can’t commit their patch themselves and hence they have to attach 
their patch to JIRA where they implicitly agree with all the legal stuff. There 
is some license agreement about that, but I can’t find it right now.

Jarcec

On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Joe Stein joe.st...@stealth.ly wrote:

 Shouldn't we make sure that the people in the contributor group have signed
 and sent in their ICLA http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt much like we
 do for confluence?  This helps to control also that all contributors have
 signed an ICLA too.
 
 /***
 Joe Stein
 Founder, Principal Consultant
 Big Data Open Source Security LLC
 http://www.stealth.ly
 Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
 /
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jarek Jarcec Cecho jar...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
 You have to add those people as a contributors in JIRA project
 administration. Click on “roles” in the KAFKA project administration and
 find field “contributors”.
 
 Jarcec
 
 On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I can't seem to assign JIRAs to anyone but a few committer people.
 Does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? Is this happening
 to anyone else?
 
 -Jay
 
 



Re: JIRA problem

2014-07-18 Thread Jun Rao
I am not sure if an ICLA is required for contributing patches. Requiring
that may make it harder for people who want to contribute.

Currently, only Kafka PMC members can change the contributors list.

Thanks,

Jun


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Joe Stein joe.st...@stealth.ly wrote:

 Shouldn't we make sure that the people in the contributor group have signed
 and sent in their ICLA http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt much like
 we
 do for confluence?  This helps to control also that all contributors have
 signed an ICLA too.

 /***
  Joe Stein
  Founder, Principal Consultant
  Big Data Open Source Security LLC
  http://www.stealth.ly
  Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
 /


 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jarek Jarcec Cecho jar...@apache.org
 wrote:

  You have to add those people as a contributors in JIRA project
  administration. Click on “roles” in the KAFKA project administration and
  find field “contributors”.
 
  Jarcec
 
  On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I can't seem to assign JIRAs to anyone but a few committer people.
   Does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? Is this happening
   to anyone else?
  
   -Jay
 
 



Re: JIRA problem

2014-07-18 Thread Jay Kreps
I think having people fax in permission slips to edit the wiki or get
bugs assigned to them is a bit hostile to potential contributors. Is
this a legal Apache restriction that we have to abide by or just the
way our permissions defaulted? Can we change this? Would people be
opposed to changing it?

-Jay

On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am not sure if an ICLA is required for contributing patches. Requiring
 that may make it harder for people who want to contribute.

 Currently, only Kafka PMC members can change the contributors list.

 Thanks,

 Jun


 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Joe Stein joe.st...@stealth.ly wrote:

 Shouldn't we make sure that the people in the contributor group have signed
 and sent in their ICLA http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt much like
 we
 do for confluence?  This helps to control also that all contributors have
 signed an ICLA too.

 /***
  Joe Stein
  Founder, Principal Consultant
  Big Data Open Source Security LLC
  http://www.stealth.ly
  Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
 /


 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jarek Jarcec Cecho jar...@apache.org
 wrote:

  You have to add those people as a contributors in JIRA project
  administration. Click on “roles” in the KAFKA project administration and
  find field “contributors”.
 
  Jarcec
 
  On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I can't seem to assign JIRAs to anyone but a few committer people.
   Does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? Is this happening
   to anyone else?
  
   -Jay
 
 



Re: JIRA problem

2014-07-18 Thread Jarek Jarcec Cecho
I do see separate concerns here, so let me describe how we’re addressing them 
in other projects where I’m involved. It doesn’t mean that Kafka need to follow 
them, just sharing my experience.

1) Submitting a patch to JIRA
No paper work required, all legalities are resolved implicitly by the fact that 
contributor submitted patch to JIRA.

There is small trouble with the fact that new contributor can’t assign the item 
to himself - this is the way JIRA is configured and you need to talk with Infra 
about changing that. I’ve tried to change that at some point in the past for my 
projects and I’ve failed. Feel free to ask again though :-)

2) Editing wiki
We’re giving edit privileges to anyone who asks for it. So far it worked very 
well for us.

3) Promoting contributor to committer
Do require ICLA to be signed and faxed to ASF.

Jarcec

On Jul 18, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think having people fax in permission slips to edit the wiki or get
 bugs assigned to them is a bit hostile to potential contributors. Is
 this a legal Apache restriction that we have to abide by or just the
 way our permissions defaulted? Can we change this? Would people be
 opposed to changing it?
 
 -Jay
 
 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am not sure if an ICLA is required for contributing patches. Requiring
 that may make it harder for people who want to contribute.
 
 Currently, only Kafka PMC members can change the contributors list.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jun
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Joe Stein joe.st...@stealth.ly wrote:
 
 Shouldn't we make sure that the people in the contributor group have signed
 and sent in their ICLA http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt much like
 we
 do for confluence?  This helps to control also that all contributors have
 signed an ICLA too.
 
 /***
 Joe Stein
 Founder, Principal Consultant
 Big Data Open Source Security LLC
 http://www.stealth.ly
 Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
 /
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jarek Jarcec Cecho jar...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
 You have to add those people as a contributors in JIRA project
 administration. Click on “roles” in the KAFKA project administration and
 find field “contributors”.
 
 Jarcec
 
 On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I can't seem to assign JIRAs to anyone but a few committer people.
 Does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? Is this happening
 to anyone else?
 
 -Jay
 
 
 



Re: JIRA problem

2014-07-18 Thread Joe Stein
Jay, I agree with you.

This goes back to the spam fiasco that occurred on confluence and the
pendulum swinging because of it.  Re-reading that email there doesn't seem
anything specific requiring us to have them sign the ICLA but it looks like
that is a requirement if we wanted INFRA to assign the person in the
asf-cla group... so we could just have our own contributor group and manage
that in confluence however we wanted?

/***
 Joe Stein
 Founder, Principal Consultant
 Big Data Open Source Security LLC
 http://www.stealth.ly
 Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
/


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think having people fax in permission slips to edit the wiki or get
 bugs assigned to them is a bit hostile to potential contributors. Is
 this a legal Apache restriction that we have to abide by or just the
 way our permissions defaulted? Can we change this? Would people be
 opposed to changing it?

 -Jay

 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote:
  I am not sure if an ICLA is required for contributing patches. Requiring
  that may make it harder for people who want to contribute.
 
  Currently, only Kafka PMC members can change the contributors list.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jun
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Joe Stein joe.st...@stealth.ly wrote:
 
  Shouldn't we make sure that the people in the contributor group have
 signed
  and sent in their ICLA http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt much
 like
  we
  do for confluence?  This helps to control also that all contributors
 have
  signed an ICLA too.
 
  /***
   Joe Stein
   Founder, Principal Consultant
   Big Data Open Source Security LLC
   http://www.stealth.ly
   Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
  /
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jarek Jarcec Cecho jar...@apache.org
 
  wrote:
 
   You have to add those people as a contributors in JIRA project
   administration. Click on “roles” in the KAFKA project administration
 and
   find field “contributors”.
  
   Jarcec
  
   On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:
  
I can't seem to assign JIRAs to anyone but a few committer people.
Does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? Is this
 happening
to anyone else?
   
-Jay
  
  
 



Re: JIRA problem

2014-07-18 Thread Jay Kreps
Joe--that sounds great, let's do that! So I guess we should put
something in the wiki about how to get added to that group?
Jarek--thanks for the summary, that is very helpful. I will follow-up
with the infra people on letting people assign JIRAs.

-jay



On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Joe Stein joe.st...@stealth.ly wrote:
 Jay, I agree with you.

 This goes back to the spam fiasco that occurred on confluence and the
 pendulum swinging because of it.  Re-reading that email there doesn't seem
 anything specific requiring us to have them sign the ICLA but it looks like
 that is a requirement if we wanted INFRA to assign the person in the
 asf-cla group... so we could just have our own contributor group and manage
 that in confluence however we wanted?

 /***
  Joe Stein
  Founder, Principal Consultant
  Big Data Open Source Security LLC
  http://www.stealth.ly
  Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
 /


 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think having people fax in permission slips to edit the wiki or get
 bugs assigned to them is a bit hostile to potential contributors. Is
 this a legal Apache restriction that we have to abide by or just the
 way our permissions defaulted? Can we change this? Would people be
 opposed to changing it?

 -Jay

 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote:
  I am not sure if an ICLA is required for contributing patches. Requiring
  that may make it harder for people who want to contribute.
 
  Currently, only Kafka PMC members can change the contributors list.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jun
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Joe Stein joe.st...@stealth.ly wrote:
 
  Shouldn't we make sure that the people in the contributor group have
 signed
  and sent in their ICLA http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt much
 like
  we
  do for confluence?  This helps to control also that all contributors
 have
  signed an ICLA too.
 
  /***
   Joe Stein
   Founder, Principal Consultant
   Big Data Open Source Security LLC
   http://www.stealth.ly
   Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
  /
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jarek Jarcec Cecho jar...@apache.org
 
  wrote:
 
   You have to add those people as a contributors in JIRA project
   administration. Click on “roles” in the KAFKA project administration
 and
   find field “contributors”.
  
   Jarcec
  
   On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:
  
I can't seem to assign JIRAs to anyone but a few committer people.
Does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? Is this
 happening
to anyone else?
   
-Jay
  
  
 



Re: JIRA problem

2014-07-18 Thread Guozhang Wang
I once noticed Samza also had a similar problem and Jacob resolved it by
talking to the Apache people. We can probably ask him how he gets it done.


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Joe Stein joe.st...@stealth.ly wrote:

 Jay, I agree with you.

 This goes back to the spam fiasco that occurred on confluence and the
 pendulum swinging because of it.  Re-reading that email there doesn't seem
 anything specific requiring us to have them sign the ICLA but it looks like
 that is a requirement if we wanted INFRA to assign the person in the
 asf-cla group... so we could just have our own contributor group and manage
 that in confluence however we wanted?

 /***
  Joe Stein
  Founder, Principal Consultant
  Big Data Open Source Security LLC
  http://www.stealth.ly
  Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
 /


 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:

  I think having people fax in permission slips to edit the wiki or get
  bugs assigned to them is a bit hostile to potential contributors. Is
  this a legal Apache restriction that we have to abide by or just the
  way our permissions defaulted? Can we change this? Would people be
  opposed to changing it?
 
  -Jay
 
  On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote:
   I am not sure if an ICLA is required for contributing patches.
 Requiring
   that may make it harder for people who want to contribute.
  
   Currently, only Kafka PMC members can change the contributors list.
  
   Thanks,
  
   Jun
  
  
   On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Joe Stein joe.st...@stealth.ly
 wrote:
  
   Shouldn't we make sure that the people in the contributor group have
  signed
   and sent in their ICLA http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt much
  like
   we
   do for confluence?  This helps to control also that all contributors
  have
   signed an ICLA too.
  
   /***
Joe Stein
Founder, Principal Consultant
Big Data Open Source Security LLC
http://www.stealth.ly
Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
   /
  
  
   On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jarek Jarcec Cecho 
 jar...@apache.org
  
   wrote:
  
You have to add those people as a contributors in JIRA project
administration. Click on “roles” in the KAFKA project administration
  and
find field “contributors”.
   
Jarcec
   
On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 I can't seem to assign JIRAs to anyone but a few committer people.
 Does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? Is this
  happening
 to anyone else?

 -Jay
   
   
  
 




-- 
-- Guozhang


Re: JIRA problem

2014-07-18 Thread Joe Stein
I have been assigning people on confluence (they granted us access at that
time after some back and forth) we already have permission to-do that no
reason to talk to INFRA.

Everyone in the PMC should have access.

/***
 Joe Stein
 Founder, Principal Consultant
 Big Data Open Source Security LLC
 http://www.stealth.ly
 Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
/


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joe--that sounds great, let's do that! So I guess we should put
 something in the wiki about how to get added to that group?
 Jarek--thanks for the summary, that is very helpful. I will follow-up
 with the infra people on letting people assign JIRAs.

 -jay



 On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Joe Stein joe.st...@stealth.ly wrote:
  Jay, I agree with you.
 
  This goes back to the spam fiasco that occurred on confluence and the
  pendulum swinging because of it.  Re-reading that email there doesn't
 seem
  anything specific requiring us to have them sign the ICLA but it looks
 like
  that is a requirement if we wanted INFRA to assign the person in the
  asf-cla group... so we could just have our own contributor group and
 manage
  that in confluence however we wanted?
 
  /***
   Joe Stein
   Founder, Principal Consultant
   Big Data Open Source Security LLC
   http://www.stealth.ly
   Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
  /
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I think having people fax in permission slips to edit the wiki or get
  bugs assigned to them is a bit hostile to potential contributors. Is
  this a legal Apache restriction that we have to abide by or just the
  way our permissions defaulted? Can we change this? Would people be
  opposed to changing it?
 
  -Jay
 
  On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jun Rao jun...@gmail.com wrote:
   I am not sure if an ICLA is required for contributing patches.
 Requiring
   that may make it harder for people who want to contribute.
  
   Currently, only Kafka PMC members can change the contributors list.
  
   Thanks,
  
   Jun
  
  
   On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Joe Stein joe.st...@stealth.ly
 wrote:
  
   Shouldn't we make sure that the people in the contributor group have
  signed
   and sent in their ICLA http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt much
  like
   we
   do for confluence?  This helps to control also that all contributors
  have
   signed an ICLA too.
  
   /***
Joe Stein
Founder, Principal Consultant
Big Data Open Source Security LLC
http://www.stealth.ly
Twitter: @allthingshadoop http://www.twitter.com/allthingshadoop
   /
  
  
   On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jarek Jarcec Cecho 
 jar...@apache.org
  
   wrote:
  
You have to add those people as a contributors in JIRA project
administration. Click on “roles” in the KAFKA project
 administration
  and
find field “contributors”.
   
Jarcec
   
On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Jay Kreps jay.kr...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   
 I can't seem to assign JIRAs to anyone but a few committer
 people.
 Does anyone know what causes this or how to fix it? Is this
  happening
 to anyone else?

 -Jay