Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[Gilles Sadowski]

Hello.

On 2018/09/14 10:20:42, sha...@apache.org wrote: 
> Hi Gilles
> 
> Thanks very much for the feedback. Please can you let us know which 
> Apache project you are involved in so we can record and track the feedback.

The project is "Commons" (I've created the "commons" view in the demo).

Best regards,
Gilles

> Thanks
> Sharan
> 
> On 13.9.2018 20:24, Gilles wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 10:07:50 +0200, sha...@apache.org wrote:
> >> Hi All
> >>
> >> Thanks very much for being one of the projects that is part of the
> >> Kibble demo instance. We hope that you are making use of the
> >> information Kibble shows about your project. We have had our demo
> >> instance up and running for most of this year so now we'd like to get
> >> some feedback from you about how you are using Kibble.
> >>
> >> Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:
> >>
> >>  * How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?
> >
> > Every 3 months for stats to be included in the report to the Board.
> >
> >>  * How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful in
> >>    other ways?
> >>  * What questions about your community can you currently not answer and
> >>    what information could Kibble provide to help answer these questions?
> >
> > At this point in time, the main issue is on our side: we didn't
> > have any discussion about this nice tool which you provided.
> >
> >>  * What problems do you have with using Kibble?
> >
> > I tried to discover how to use it by playing with the demo.
> > Perhaps there could be a link to the documentation (user
> > manual).
> >
> > For the limited usage we have up to now, it would be great
> > if it could generate some summary in ASCII (or other text)
> > format.
> >
> >> Please note that even if you are not using Kibble then it would be
> >> good to understand why (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it
> >> isn’t clear etc). Also if you have any other feedback about Kibble
> >> then we’d be happy to hear it so that we can work on improving it for
> >> the future.
> >
> > Clicking on the "Exports" menu opened a popup saying "Widget
> > not found"!
> >
> >> If you have any questions then please feel free to ask them on our
> >> Kibble dev list (dev@kibble.apache.org). We're looking forward to
> >> receiving your feedback.
> >
> > Sorry for the limited experience. :-}
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gilles
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Sharan
> >
> 
> 

Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[sharan]

Hi Gilles

Thanks very much for the feedback. Please can you let us know which 
Apache project you are involved in so we can record and track the feedback.


Thanks
Sharan

On 13.9.2018 20:24, Gilles wrote:

Hello.

On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 10:07:50 +0200, sha...@apache.org wrote:

Hi All

Thanks very much for being one of the projects that is part of the
Kibble demo instance. We hope that you are making use of the
information Kibble shows about your project. We have had our demo
instance up and running for most of this year so now we'd like to get
some feedback from you about how you are using Kibble.

Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:

 * How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?


Every 3 months for stats to be included in the report to the Board.


 * How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful in
   other ways?
 * What questions about your community can you currently not answer and
   what information could Kibble provide to help answer these questions?


At this point in time, the main issue is on our side: we didn't
have any discussion about this nice tool which you provided.


 * What problems do you have with using Kibble?


I tried to discover how to use it by playing with the demo.
Perhaps there could be a link to the documentation (user
manual).

For the limited usage we have up to now, it would be great
if it could generate some summary in ASCII (or other text)
format.


Please note that even if you are not using Kibble then it would be
good to understand why (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it
isn’t clear etc). Also if you have any other feedback about Kibble
then we’d be happy to hear it so that we can work on improving it for
the future.


Clicking on the "Exports" menu opened a popup saying "Widget
not found"!


If you have any questions then please feel free to ask them on our
Kibble dev list (dev@kibble.apache.org). We're looking forward to
receiving your feedback.


Sorry for the limited experience. :-}

Regards,
Gilles



Thanks
Sharan

Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[Gilles]

Hello.

On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 10:07:50 +0200, sha...@apache.org wrote:

Hi All

Thanks very much for being one of the projects that is part of the
Kibble demo instance. We hope that you are making use of the
information Kibble shows about your project. We have had our demo
instance up and running for most of this year so now we'd like to get
some feedback from you about how you are using Kibble.

Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:

 * How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?


Every 3 months for stats to be included in the report to the Board.


 * How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful in
   other ways?
 * What questions about your community can you currently not answer 
and
   what information could Kibble provide to help answer these 
questions?


At this point in time, the main issue is on our side: we didn't
have any discussion about this nice tool which you provided.


 * What problems do you have with using Kibble?


I tried to discover how to use it by playing with the demo.
Perhaps there could be a link to the documentation (user
manual).

For the limited usage we have up to now, it would be great
if it could generate some summary in ASCII (or other text)
format.


Please note that even if you are not using Kibble then it would be
good to understand why (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it
isn’t clear etc). Also if you have any other feedback about Kibble
then we’d be happy to hear it so that we can work on improving it for
the future.


Clicking on the "Exports" menu opened a popup saying "Widget
not found"!


If you have any questions then please feel free to ask them on our
Kibble dev list (dev@kibble.apache.org). We're looking forward to
receiving your feedback.


Sorry for the limited experience. :-}

Regards,
Gilles



Thanks
Sharan

Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[Robert Munteanu]

On Wed, 2018-09-12 at 12:18 +0200, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> On 09/12/2018 12:14 PM, Robert Munteanu wrote:
> > 3. I was unable to find what the Pony Factor is. Some documentation
> > (inline in the app or in the manual) would be great.
> 
> https://ke4qqq.wordpress.com/2015/02/08/pony-factor-math/
> 
> We should put a link to that or add the description to the 
> documentation, yeah. it's basically a risk factor.

Thanks for the primer in equine mathematics :-)

Robert

Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[Daniel Gruno]

On 09/12/2018 12:14 PM, Robert Munteanu wrote:

3. I was unable to find what the Pony Factor is. Some documentation
(inline in the app or in the manual) would be great.


https://ke4qqq.wordpress.com/2015/02/08/pony-factor-math/

We should put a link to that or add the description to the 
documentation, yeah. it's basically a risk factor.




-

Guess that about covers it. Overall I'm happy Kibble exists I can
extract stats about our projects so thanks for that!

Robert

[1]: 
https://demo.kibble.apache.org/contributors.html?page=mvp=adb6da82a758f0cc0d3b650b9e839c15c0e0f7d92ff5f074821d7e98

Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[Robert Munteanu]

Hi Sharan,

(+dev@sling)

On Mon, 2018-09-10 at 10:07 +0200, sha...@apache.org wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> Thanks very much for being one of the projects that is part of the 
> Kibble demo instance. We hope that you are making use of the
> information 
> Kibble shows about your project. We have had our demo instance up
> and 
> running for most of this year so now we'd like to get some feedback
> from 
> you about how you are using Kibble.
> 
> Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:
> 
>   * How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?

I for one used it a couple of times to try and assess community health
by looking for new contributors. Having 280+ git repos makes it very
hard to do so with other tools.

>   * How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful in
> other ways?

I'm looking mostly at trends - how is the number of contributors
evolving? Do we have new people coming in and contributing?

>   * What questions about your community can you currently not answer
> and
> what information could Kibble provide to help answer these
> questions?


Top of my head, that would be:

- contributions by non-committers - code, emails
- release activity ( can be picked up from Jira or from [VOTE] emails )

>   * What problems do you have with using Kibble?

1. Trying to access the 'contributors' tab with the 'Apache Sling' view
results in a 'Widget design not found' error for me [1]
2. (Not an issue with Kibble per se) Since we keep adding repositories
(~20 are not on Kibble) we would need a way of automating it. I saw
that Kibble has an API, but not sure how much work is for us to manage
the repositories list ( + the view ). Need to look into it.
3. I was unable to find what the Pony Factor is. Some documentation
(inline in the app or in the manual) would be great.

-

Guess that about covers it. Overall I'm happy Kibble exists I can
extract stats about our projects so thanks for that!

Robert

[1]: 
https://demo.kibble.apache.org/contributors.html?page=mvp=adb6da82a758f0cc0d3b650b9e839c15c0e0f7d92ff5f074821d7e98

Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[Sharan]

On 10.9.2018 10:54, Sharan wrote:



On 10.9.2018 10:50, Daniel Gruno wrote:

On 09/10/2018 10:46 AM, Sharan wrote:

Hi

The quick filter seems to need a view, so I've created a Netbeans 
view under the Kibble guest login.


the sub-filter is 'sticky', so you don't really need to create 
permanent filters much. If you type 'netbeans' in the sub-filter box, 
it should stick when you navigate to other pages on the site.


OK - will test that :-)


Yes it works and  I think it is something we need to document as it is a 
nice quick way for people to get started :-)


Thanks
Sharan







Thanks
Sharan

On 10.9.2018 10:24, Daniel Gruno wrote:

On 09/10/2018 10:16 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
Not sure what Kibble is, this is the first time I've heard of it 
-- but very interested to know what the statistics are that it 
shows about Apache NetBeans.


https://demo.kibble.apache.org/
log in, go to 'data points', type in 'netbeans' in the quick filter 
and click the sub-filter button :) and...look around!


Thanks,

Gj

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:07 AM, > wrote:


    Hi All

    Thanks very much for being one of the projects that is part of 
the

    Kibble demo instance. We hope that you are making use of the
    information Kibble shows about your project. We have had our demo
    instance up and running for most of this year so now we'd like to
    get some feedback from you about how you are using Kibble.

    Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:

  * How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?
  * How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is 
useful

    in other ways?
  * What questions about your community can you currently not 
answer
    and what information could Kibble provide to help answer 
these

    questions?
  * What problems do you have with using Kibble?

    Please note that even if you are not using Kibble then it 
would be
    good to understand why (e.g perhaps the documentation for 
using it
    isn’t clear etc). Also if you have any other feedback about 
Kibble

    then we’d be happy to hear it so that we can work on improving it
    for the future.

    If you have any questions then please feel free to ask them on 
our

    Kibble dev list (dev@kibble.apache.org
    ). We're looking forward to 
receiving

    your feedback.

    Thanks
    Sharan

Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[Sharan]

On 10.9.2018 10:50, Daniel Gruno wrote:

On 09/10/2018 10:46 AM, Sharan wrote:

Hi

The quick filter seems to need a view, so I've created a Netbeans 
view under the Kibble guest login.


the sub-filter is 'sticky', so you don't really need to create 
permanent filters much. If you type 'netbeans' in the sub-filter box, 
it should stick when you navigate to other pages on the site.


OK - will test that :-)





Thanks
Sharan

On 10.9.2018 10:24, Daniel Gruno wrote:

On 09/10/2018 10:16 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
Not sure what Kibble is, this is the first time I've heard of it -- 
but very interested to know what the statistics are that it shows 
about Apache NetBeans.


https://demo.kibble.apache.org/
log in, go to 'data points', type in 'netbeans' in the quick filter 
and click the sub-filter button :) and...look around!


Thanks,

Gj

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:07 AM, > wrote:


    Hi All

    Thanks very much for being one of the projects that is part of the
    Kibble demo instance. We hope that you are making use of the
    information Kibble shows about your project. We have had our demo
    instance up and running for most of this year so now we'd like to
    get some feedback from you about how you are using Kibble.

    Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:

  * How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?
  * How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful
    in other ways?
  * What questions about your community can you currently not 
answer

    and what information could Kibble provide to help answer these
    questions?
  * What problems do you have with using Kibble?

    Please note that even if you are not using Kibble then it would be
    good to understand why (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it
    isn’t clear etc). Also if you have any other feedback about Kibble
    then we’d be happy to hear it so that we can work on improving it
    for the future.

    If you have any questions then please feel free to ask them on our
    Kibble dev list (dev@kibble.apache.org
    ). We're looking forward to 
receiving

    your feedback.

    Thanks
    Sharan

Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[sharan]

Hi Julian

No, this query doesn't need to remain private. Please feel free to share 
this with your community. I sent the reminder to the PMCs as the 
original request to become a Kibble demo project was sent out to the 
PMCs. Based on the responses we received from the PMCs, the projects 
were added to the demo instance.


Thanks
Sharan

On 10.9.2018 10:45, Julian Foad wrote:

Hi, Sharan / Kibble project. Does this query need to remain private? If not, I 
would like to forward the copy received on priv...@subversion.apache.org to 
d...@subversion.apache.org on the principle that any project business that does 
not need to be private should be public [1].

[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#confidential

- Julian


sha...@apache.org wrote to priv...@subversion.apache.org:

Thanks very much for being one of the projects that is part of the
Kibble demo instance. [...] we'd like to
get some feedback from you about how you are using Kibble.

Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[Daniel Gruno]

On 09/10/2018 10:46 AM, Sharan wrote:

Hi

The quick filter seems to need a view, so I've created a Netbeans view 
under the Kibble guest login.


the sub-filter is 'sticky', so you don't really need to create permanent 
filters much. If you type 'netbeans' in the sub-filter box, it should 
stick when you navigate to other pages on the site.




Thanks
Sharan

On 10.9.2018 10:24, Daniel Gruno wrote:

On 09/10/2018 10:16 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
Not sure what Kibble is, this is the first time I've heard of it -- 
but very interested to know what the statistics are that it shows 
about Apache NetBeans.


https://demo.kibble.apache.org/
log in, go to 'data points', type in 'netbeans' in the quick filter 
and click the sub-filter button :) and...look around!


Thanks,

Gj

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:07 AM, > wrote:


    Hi All

    Thanks very much for being one of the projects that is part of the
    Kibble demo instance. We hope that you are making use of the
    information Kibble shows about your project. We have had our demo
    instance up and running for most of this year so now we'd like to
    get some feedback from you about how you are using Kibble.

    Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:

  * How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?
  * How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful
    in other ways?
  * What questions about your community can you currently not answer
    and what information could Kibble provide to help answer these
    questions?
  * What problems do you have with using Kibble?

    Please note that even if you are not using Kibble then it would be
    good to understand why (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it
    isn’t clear etc). Also if you have any other feedback about Kibble
    then we’d be happy to hear it so that we can work on improving it
    for the future.

    If you have any questions then please feel free to ask them on our
    Kibble dev list (dev@kibble.apache.org
    ). We're looking forward to receiving
    your feedback.

    Thanks
    Sharan

Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[Sharan]

Hi

The quick filter seems to need a view, so I've created a Netbeans view 
under the Kibble guest login.


Thanks
Sharan

On 10.9.2018 10:24, Daniel Gruno wrote:

On 09/10/2018 10:16 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
Not sure what Kibble is, this is the first time I've heard of it -- 
but very interested to know what the statistics are that it shows 
about Apache NetBeans.


https://demo.kibble.apache.org/
log in, go to 'data points', type in 'netbeans' in the quick filter 
and click the sub-filter button :) and...look around!


Thanks,

Gj

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:07 AM, > wrote:


    Hi All

    Thanks very much for being one of the projects that is part of the
    Kibble demo instance. We hope that you are making use of the
    information Kibble shows about your project. We have had our demo
    instance up and running for most of this year so now we'd like to
    get some feedback from you about how you are using Kibble.

    Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:

  * How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?
  * How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful
    in other ways?
  * What questions about your community can you currently not answer
    and what information could Kibble provide to help answer these
    questions?
  * What problems do you have with using Kibble?

    Please note that even if you are not using Kibble then it would be
    good to understand why (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it
    isn’t clear etc). Also if you have any other feedback about Kibble
    then we’d be happy to hear it so that we can work on improving it
    for the future.

    If you have any questions then please feel free to ask them on our
    Kibble dev list (dev@kibble.apache.org
    ). We're looking forward to receiving
    your feedback.

    Thanks
    Sharan

Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[Julian Foad]

Hi, Sharan / Kibble project. Does this query need to remain private? If not, I 
would like to forward the copy received on priv...@subversion.apache.org to 
d...@subversion.apache.org on the principle that any project business that does 
not need to be private should be public [1].

[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#confidential

- Julian


sha...@apache.org wrote to priv...@subversion.apache.org:
> Thanks very much for being one of the projects that is part of the
> Kibble demo instance. [...] we'd like to
> get some feedback from you about how you are using Kibble. 

Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[Daniel Gruno]

On 09/10/2018 10:16 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
Not sure what Kibble is, this is the first time I've heard of it -- but 
very interested to know what the statistics are that it shows about 
Apache NetBeans.


https://demo.kibble.apache.org/
log in, go to 'data points', type in 'netbeans' in the quick filter and 
click the sub-filter button :) and...look around!


Thanks,

Gj

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:07 AM, > wrote:


Hi All

Thanks very much for being one of the projects that is part of the
Kibble demo instance. We hope that you are making use of the
information Kibble shows about your project. We have had our demo
instance up and running for most of this year so now we'd like to
get some feedback from you about how you are using Kibble.

Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:

  * How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?
  * How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful
in other ways?
  * What questions about your community can you currently not answer
and what information could Kibble provide to help answer these
questions?
  * What problems do you have with using Kibble?

Please note that even if you are not using Kibble then it would be
good to understand why (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it
isn’t clear etc). Also if you have any other feedback about Kibble
then we’d be happy to hear it so that we can work on improving it
for the future.

If you have any questions then please feel free to ask them on our
Kibble dev list (dev@kibble.apache.org
). We're looking forward to receiving
your feedback.

Thanks
Sharan

Re: Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Not sure what Kibble is, this is the first time I've heard of it -- but
very interested to know what the statistics are that it shows about Apache
NetBeans.

Thanks,

Gj

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:07 AM,  wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Thanks very much for being one of the projects that is part of the Kibble
> demo instance. We hope that you are making use of the information Kibble
> shows about your project. We have had our demo instance up and running for
> most of this year so now we'd like to get some feedback from you about how
> you are using Kibble.
>
> Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:
>
>- How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?
>- How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful in
>other ways?
>- What questions about your community can you currently not answer and
>what information could Kibble provide to help answer these questions?
>- What problems do you have with using Kibble?
>
> Please note that even if you are not using Kibble then it would be good to
> understand why (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it isn’t clear
> etc). Also if you have any other feedback about Kibble then we’d be happy
> to hear it so that we can work on improving it for the future.
>
> If you have any questions then please feel free to ask them on our Kibble
> dev list (dev@kibble.apache.org). We're looking forward to receiving your
> feedback.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>