[l10n-dev] Pootle: generating SDF files for build

2008-02-01 Thread Clytie Siddall

Hi all :)

Now our language is up on the OpenOffice.org Pootle (thankyou  
Aijin :) ), we need to adapt our workflow to Pootle.


What is the current procedure for generating SDF files from Pootle  
translations?


I ask not only in view of translation submissions for deadlines, but  
to maintain a current SDF file at a set URL for Pavel to use in his  
regular builds.


ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/
ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/.newserver/

These builds are essential for testing both translations and functions  
on an ongoing basis.


Pavel, do you build to a schedule?

Currently I'm creating an updated SDF file every time I integrate a  
reasonable number of new/changed strings. If we're going to generate  
SDF files either manually or automatically via Pootle, it would be  
useful to know often we really need to do that, in order for the files  
to be used in your regular builds.


If Pootle doesn't have the features for whatever SDF-generation  
procedure works best at OpenOffice.org, this is an opportunity to  
request and test them. :)


from Clytie

Vietnamese Free Software Translation Team
http://vnoss.net/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=projects:l10n



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Re: [l10n-dev] Preparing 3.0 in Pootle

2008-02-01 Thread Clytie Siddall


On 01/02/2008, at 7:29 PM, Aijin Kim wrote:


Now, all the languages are uploaded to Pootle.


Aijin, thankyou for all your efforts. :)

I only do all the conversion and uploading for _one_ language: I  
shudder to think how complex and tedious it can get for multiple  
languages!


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Re: [l10n-dev] search function in Pootle

2008-02-01 Thread F Wolff
Op Vrydag 2008-02-01 skryf Olivier Hallot:
> Thank you Friedel for you patience.
> 
> Yes I'm still exploring the tool so I went finally to the verifications.
> 
> I have some questions more since then:
> 
> - some verifications are affected by the location of the keyboard 
> shortcut symbol (~). Is there a way to make verifications with this 
> symbol ignored or hidden?

Yes. The project needs to be classified as an OpenOffice.org project,
then many of the tests are adapted accordingly. Aijin, can you please
update the project configuration?

> 
> - A way to skin or color-configure some special conditions:  approximate 
> translations, begin or end whitespace. Those are in pale gray, hard to find.

You can force your browser to use different styling for certain sites,
but perhaps this is not the most attractive option to you. We will be
finalising the release of Pootle 1.1.0 soon, and if you want to give
more specific ideas of what you have in mind and help us test them, we
might be able to incorporate that to the release. At the moment these
colours are not configurable inside Pootle, if that is what you wanted
to know. The choice of colour is simply to ensure that it doesn't
distract too much during normal work, but that there is way to see the
suspicious whitespace.

> 
> That is it (for the time being, I plan to attend next tuesday irc 
> meeting...)
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Olivier
> 

Thank you for the feedback.

Friedel


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Re: [l10n-dev] search function in Pootle

2008-02-01 Thread Aijin Kim

Hi Oliver,

Olivier Hallot 쓴 글:

Thank you Friedel for you patience.

Yes I'm still exploring the tool so I went finally to the verifications.

I have some questions more since then:

- some verifications are affected by the location of the keyboard 
shortcut symbol (~). Is there a way to make verifications with this 
symbol ignored or hidden?


It can be ignored if project type is set as 'openoffie'. I've just 
change the project type from 'standard' to 'openoffice', so those issue 
regarding symbol ~ shouldn't be displayed.


Thanks,
Aijin



- A way to skin or color-configure some special conditions:  
approximate translations, begin or end whitespace. Those are in pale 
gray, hard to find.


That is it (for the time being, I plan to attend next tuesday irc 
meeting...)


Thank you.

Olivier


F Wolff escreveu:

Op Donderdag 2008-01-31 skryf Olivier Hallot:
 

Hi Rafaella,
That is exactly what it does, although I thought initially that the 
search function should return all ocurrences in one page. Actually I 
know I have one "Gallery" string left untranslated in the UI, but 
the question was "where in the file tree?".


I'm still exploring this interesting tool.
Regards,
Olivier





Hallo Olivier

Since the project is so big, it can take some effort to find this, of
course. Plain searching should eventually get you there (unless this
perhaps is a string that isn't available for translation!)

If you have a good idea in which component of OOo the message could be,
you might want to first navigate into that directory and start the
search from there. This will limit the search to the files in this
directory.

Another thing to consider, is to make use of the checks (Verificações)
to find "unchanged" strings (you might also want to review other checks
for possible areas of improvement):

http://www.sunvirtuallab.com:32300/pt_BR/openoffice_org/index.html?editing=1&showchecks=1 



Unchanged and untranslated strings could possibly be where you need to
look, although everything seems 100% translated at the moment for pt_BR.

Even for the checks, you can choose to only review the "unchanged"
checks for a specific directory (or file) in the tree of files. If you
know where to look, this could perhaps also cut down on searching
through results in the other areas of OOo.

I hope this helps.

Friedel


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Re: [l10n-dev] search function in Pootle

2008-02-01 Thread Olivier Hallot

Thank you Friedel for you patience.

Yes I'm still exploring the tool so I went finally to the verifications.

I have some questions more since then:

- some verifications are affected by the location of the keyboard 
shortcut symbol (~). Is there a way to make verifications with this 
symbol ignored or hidden?


- A way to skin or color-configure some special conditions:  approximate 
translations, begin or end whitespace. Those are in pale gray, hard to find.


That is it (for the time being, I plan to attend next tuesday irc 
meeting...)


Thank you.

Olivier


F Wolff escreveu:

Op Donderdag 2008-01-31 skryf Olivier Hallot:
  

Hi Rafaella,
That is exactly what it does, although I thought initially that the 
search function should return all ocurrences in one page. Actually I 
know I have one "Gallery" string left untranslated in the UI, but the 
question was "where in the file tree?".


I'm still exploring this interesting tool.
Regards,
Olivier





Hallo Olivier

Since the project is so big, it can take some effort to find this, of
course. Plain searching should eventually get you there (unless this
perhaps is a string that isn't available for translation!)

If you have a good idea in which component of OOo the message could be,
you might want to first navigate into that directory and start the
search from there. This will limit the search to the files in this
directory.

Another thing to consider, is to make use of the checks (Verificações)
to find "unchanged" strings (you might also want to review other checks
for possible areas of improvement):

http://www.sunvirtuallab.com:32300/pt_BR/openoffice_org/index.html?editing=1&showchecks=1

Unchanged and untranslated strings could possibly be where you need to
look, although everything seems 100% translated at the moment for pt_BR.

Even for the checks, you can choose to only review the "unchanged"
checks for a specific directory (or file) in the tree of files. If you
know where to look, this could perhaps also cut down on searching
through results in the other areas of OOo.

I hope this helps.

Friedel


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Re: [l10n-dev] Preparing 3.0 in Pootle

2008-02-01 Thread Aijin Kim
Now, all the languages are uploaded to Pootle.

Regards,
Aijin


Aijin Kim 쓴 글:
> Dear Pootle user,
>
> Pootle upload for 16 languages are completed:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_Integration_Roadmap
>
> Other 4 languages will be online soon..
>
> Regards,
> Aijin
>
>
> Aijin Kim 쓴 글:
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm starting to prepare the contents for 3.0 in Pootle. The languages
>> which are scheduled as end of Jan. will be uploaded first.
>> Works during the preparation period are possibly missed, so please don't
>> update the contents in Pootle during the period.
>>
>> Once the upload is finished, I'll get back to you soon.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aijin
>>
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