Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project
Looks like we have a 'lazy consensus', in that, no one has raised any significant objections, a few minor modifications have been suggested (which sound totally reasonable), and those who did vote were positive. Barring any objections, this vote passes. Since DIGY and Scott seem to have gotten the bulk of the work on 2.9.4 finished, I think now is a good time to start the directory layout changes, and it won't be too intrusive to any active commits. I'll start on that this week. If you have any pending commits that would be totally screwed up by this directory change, please finalize those as soon as possible! Otherwise I'll be moving things around and your patches/commits might not be able to find the appropriate files. Thanks, Troy On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.com wrote: Any more thoughts on the directory structure? Quick Recap: We have Troy's original proposal here: http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/directory-structure-example/ bin/ build/ (various solution and project files) vs2008/ vs2010/ doc/ lib/ - third party libraries to make it easy to pull down the source and go src/ contrib/ core/ demo/ test/ contrib/ core/ demo/ From here, I further suggested cleaning up the contrib folder - because we have extra folders: src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ - src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ - src/contrib/Snowball.net/ Digy further suggested dropping the .net in all those folders above, and finding a better name for contrib.net. Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:41:17 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project Well, not really core. Codes under Analyzer(by DIGY) can be moved to /src/contrib/analyzers (but they are not ports from java). The others(by M.GARSKI) are extensions to the core(something like Lucene.Net.Core.Extensions) DIGY On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Troy Howard wrote: Yeah -- I also changed the Contrib.Net project folder name to ~/src/contrib/core ... IMO we should just roll these into the main library if they are solid, tested and useful.. This is keeping in line with our new philosophy about allowing .NET specific changes, even if it means diverging from Java Lucene to do it. Thanks, Troy On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Actually what IS contrib.net? It looks like it replaces certain files in Lucene.Net core - are they files better suited to .net? What are they? If they are plugins / additional contributions like snowball, etc - why not just break it out and include the appropriate stuff in contrib? Do we need to specify that they are not avaliable in the java version? Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:18:22 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project 0 .Nets seem to be redundant under /src/contrib/ . It could be something like Analyzers Highlighter Similarity ... (Maybe, we should find a different name for contrib.net. It contains contributions specific to Lucene.Net which are not available in Lucene.java) DIGY On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Probably just a miss - but under the src/contrib folder you also have a number of tests in there... Also, is it necessary to have all the sub folders? For the most part the stuff in contrib.net is contrib.net - why the secondary folder? Unless that is a requirement of NUnit to have the structure that way it seems a bit cluttered. I would think something like src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/Snowball.net/ instead of src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ I don't know how people feel about that ~P Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:31:34 -0500 From: mhern...@wickedsoftware.net To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org CC: thowar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project +1 just a question though. for cmd/bat//sh files for letting people executing the build or just executing other tools from the command line, would those have a place in /bin or somewhere els? This is that someone can just export PATH = / SET PATH= to that one folder and then be able to execute those commands from one location? On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Troy Howard wrote: All, We'd like to update the project directory structure/layout. See below
Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project
+1. No pending commits. A copy of the current trunk somewhere else(tag, branches etc.) would be good too. DIGY. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like we have a 'lazy consensus', in that, no one has raised any significant objections, a few minor modifications have been suggested (which sound totally reasonable), and those who did vote were positive. Barring any objections, this vote passes. Since DIGY and Scott seem to have gotten the bulk of the work on 2.9.4 finished, I think now is a good time to start the directory layout changes, and it won't be too intrusive to any active commits. I'll start on that this week. If you have any pending commits that would be totally screwed up by this directory change, please finalize those as soon as possible! Otherwise I'll be moving things around and your patches/commits might not be able to find the appropriate files. Thanks, Troy On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.com wrote: Any more thoughts on the directory structure? Quick Recap: We have Troy's original proposal here: http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/directory-structure-example/ bin/ build/ (various solution and project files) vs2008/ vs2010/ doc/ lib/ - third party libraries to make it easy to pull down the source and go src/ contrib/ core/ demo/ test/ contrib/ core/ demo/ From here, I further suggested cleaning up the contrib folder - because we have extra folders: src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ - src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ - src/contrib/Snowball.net/ Digy further suggested dropping the .net in all those folders above, and finding a better name for contrib.net. Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:41:17 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project Well, not really core. Codes under Analyzer(by DIGY) can be moved to /src/contrib/analyzers (but they are not ports from java). The others(by M.GARSKI) are extensions to the core(something like Lucene.Net.Core.Extensions) DIGY On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Troy Howard wrote: Yeah -- I also changed the Contrib.Net project folder name to ~/src/contrib/core ... IMO we should just roll these into the main library if they are solid, tested and useful.. This is keeping in line with our new philosophy about allowing .NET specific changes, even if it means diverging from Java Lucene to do it. Thanks, Troy On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Actually what IS contrib.net? It looks like it replaces certain files in Lucene.Net core - are they files better suited to .net? What are they? If they are plugins / additional contributions like snowball, etc - why not just break it out and include the appropriate stuff in contrib? Do we need to specify that they are not avaliable in the java version? Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:18:22 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project 0 .Nets seem to be redundant under /src/contrib/ . It could be something like Analyzers Highlighter Similarity ... (Maybe, we should find a different name for contrib.net. It contains contributions specific to Lucene.Net which are not available in Lucene.java) DIGY On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Probably just a miss - but under the src/contrib folder you also have a number of tests in there... Also, is it necessary to have all the sub folders? For the most part the stuff in contrib.net is contrib.net - why the secondary folder? Unless that is a requirement of NUnit to have the structure that way it seems a bit cluttered. I would think something like src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/Snowball.net/ instead of src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ I don't know how people feel about that ~P Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:31:34 -0500 From: mhern...@wickedsoftware.net To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org CC: thowar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project +1 just a question though. for cmd/bat//sh files for letting people executing the build or just executing other tools from the command line, would those have a place
Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project
Sounds good. I'll make a tag prior to starting the directory changes, but I'll commit changes to trunk. Thanks, Troy On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:55 AM, digy digy digyd...@gmail.com wrote: +1. No pending commits. A copy of the current trunk somewhere else(tag, branches etc.) would be good too. DIGY. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like we have a 'lazy consensus', in that, no one has raised any significant objections, a few minor modifications have been suggested (which sound totally reasonable), and those who did vote were positive. Barring any objections, this vote passes. Since DIGY and Scott seem to have gotten the bulk of the work on 2.9.4 finished, I think now is a good time to start the directory layout changes, and it won't be too intrusive to any active commits. I'll start on that this week. If you have any pending commits that would be totally screwed up by this directory change, please finalize those as soon as possible! Otherwise I'll be moving things around and your patches/commits might not be able to find the appropriate files. Thanks, Troy On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.com wrote: Any more thoughts on the directory structure? Quick Recap: We have Troy's original proposal here: http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/directory-structure-example/ bin/ build/ (various solution and project files) vs2008/ vs2010/ doc/ lib/ - third party libraries to make it easy to pull down the source and go src/ contrib/ core/ demo/ test/ contrib/ core/ demo/ From here, I further suggested cleaning up the contrib folder - because we have extra folders: src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ - src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ - src/contrib/Snowball.net/ Digy further suggested dropping the .net in all those folders above, and finding a better name for contrib.net. Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:41:17 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project Well, not really core. Codes under Analyzer(by DIGY) can be moved to /src/contrib/analyzers (but they are not ports from java). The others(by M.GARSKI) are extensions to the core(something like Lucene.Net.Core.Extensions) DIGY On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Troy Howard wrote: Yeah -- I also changed the Contrib.Net project folder name to ~/src/contrib/core ... IMO we should just roll these into the main library if they are solid, tested and useful.. This is keeping in line with our new philosophy about allowing .NET specific changes, even if it means diverging from Java Lucene to do it. Thanks, Troy On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Actually what IS contrib.net? It looks like it replaces certain files in Lucene.Net core - are they files better suited to .net? What are they? If they are plugins / additional contributions like snowball, etc - why not just break it out and include the appropriate stuff in contrib? Do we need to specify that they are not avaliable in the java version? Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:18:22 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project 0 .Nets seem to be redundant under /src/contrib/ . It could be something like Analyzers Highlighter Similarity ... (Maybe, we should find a different name for contrib.net. It contains contributions specific to Lucene.Net which are not available in Lucene.java) DIGY On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Probably just a miss - but under the src/contrib folder you also have a number of tests in there... Also, is it necessary to have all the sub folders? For the most part the stuff in contrib.net is contrib.net - why the secondary folder? Unless that is a requirement of NUnit to have the structure that way it seems a bit cluttered. I would think something like src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/Snowball.net/ instead of src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ I don't know how people feel about that ~P Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:31:34 -0500 From: mhern...@wickedsoftware.net To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org CC: thowar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project +1
Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project
could you give a shout to the list when that gets stabilized? On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good. I'll make a tag prior to starting the directory changes, but I'll commit changes to trunk. Thanks, Troy On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:55 AM, digy digy digyd...@gmail.com wrote: +1. No pending commits. A copy of the current trunk somewhere else(tag, branches etc.) would be good too. DIGY. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like we have a 'lazy consensus', in that, no one has raised any significant objections, a few minor modifications have been suggested (which sound totally reasonable), and those who did vote were positive. Barring any objections, this vote passes. Since DIGY and Scott seem to have gotten the bulk of the work on 2.9.4 finished, I think now is a good time to start the directory layout changes, and it won't be too intrusive to any active commits. I'll start on that this week. If you have any pending commits that would be totally screwed up by this directory change, please finalize those as soon as possible! Otherwise I'll be moving things around and your patches/commits might not be able to find the appropriate files. Thanks, Troy On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.com wrote: Any more thoughts on the directory structure? Quick Recap: We have Troy's original proposal here: http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/directory-structure-example/ bin/ build/ (various solution and project files) vs2008/ vs2010/ doc/ lib/ - third party libraries to make it easy to pull down the source and go src/ contrib/ core/ demo/ test/ contrib/ core/ demo/ From here, I further suggested cleaning up the contrib folder - because we have extra folders: src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ - src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ - src/contrib/Snowball.net/ Digy further suggested dropping the .net in all those folders above, and finding a better name for contrib.net. Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:41:17 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project Well, not really core. Codes under Analyzer(by DIGY) can be moved to /src/contrib/analyzers (but they are not ports from java). The others(by M.GARSKI) are extensions to the core(something like Lucene.Net.Core.Extensions) DIGY On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Troy Howard wrote: Yeah -- I also changed the Contrib.Net project folder name to ~/src/contrib/core ... IMO we should just roll these into the main library if they are solid, tested and useful.. This is keeping in line with our new philosophy about allowing .NET specific changes, even if it means diverging from Java Lucene to do it. Thanks, Troy On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Actually what IS contrib.net? It looks like it replaces certain files in Lucene.Net core - are they files better suited to .net? What are they? If they are plugins / additional contributions like snowball, etc - why not just break it out and include the appropriate stuff in contrib? Do we need to specify that they are not avaliable in the java version? Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:18:22 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project 0 .Nets seem to be redundant under /src/contrib/ . It could be something like Analyzers Highlighter Similarity ... (Maybe, we should find a different name for contrib.net. It contains contributions specific to Lucene.Net which are not available in Lucene.java) DIGY On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Probably just a miss - but under the src/contrib folder you also have a number of tests in there... Also, is it necessary to have all the sub folders? For the most part the stuff in contrib.net is contrib.net - why the secondary folder? Unless that is a requirement of NUnit to have the structure that way it seems a bit cluttered. I would think something like src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/Snowball.net/ instead of src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ I don't know how people
Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project
After this directory layout changes; what about replacing ArrayLists, Hashtables etc, with appropriate Generics? This would bring us very close to lucene 3.0.3 (and not hard to do with the help of VS). DIGY On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good. I'll make a tag prior to starting the directory changes, but I'll commit changes to trunk. Thanks, Troy On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:55 AM, digy digy digyd...@gmail.com wrote: +1. No pending commits. A copy of the current trunk somewhere else(tag, branches etc.) would be good too. DIGY. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like we have a 'lazy consensus', in that, no one has raised any significant objections, a few minor modifications have been suggested (which sound totally reasonable), and those who did vote were positive. Barring any objections, this vote passes. Since DIGY and Scott seem to have gotten the bulk of the work on 2.9.4 finished, I think now is a good time to start the directory layout changes, and it won't be too intrusive to any active commits. I'll start on that this week. If you have any pending commits that would be totally screwed up by this directory change, please finalize those as soon as possible! Otherwise I'll be moving things around and your patches/commits might not be able to find the appropriate files. Thanks, Troy On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.com wrote: Any more thoughts on the directory structure? Quick Recap: We have Troy's original proposal here: http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/directory-structure-example/ bin/ build/ (various solution and project files) vs2008/ vs2010/ doc/ lib/ - third party libraries to make it easy to pull down the source and go src/ contrib/ core/ demo/ test/ contrib/ core/ demo/ From here, I further suggested cleaning up the contrib folder - because we have extra folders: src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ - src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ - src/contrib/Snowball.net/ Digy further suggested dropping the .net in all those folders above, and finding a better name for contrib.net. Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:41:17 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project Well, not really core. Codes under Analyzer(by DIGY) can be moved to /src/contrib/analyzers (but they are not ports from java). The others(by M.GARSKI) are extensions to the core(something like Lucene.Net.Core.Extensions) DIGY On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Troy Howard wrote: Yeah -- I also changed the Contrib.Net project folder name to ~/src/contrib/core ... IMO we should just roll these into the main library if they are solid, tested and useful.. This is keeping in line with our new philosophy about allowing .NET specific changes, even if it means diverging from Java Lucene to do it. Thanks, Troy On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Actually what IS contrib.net? It looks like it replaces certain files in Lucene.Net core - are they files better suited to .net? What are they? If they are plugins / additional contributions like snowball, etc - why not just break it out and include the appropriate stuff in contrib? Do we need to specify that they are not avaliable in the java version? Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:18:22 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project 0 .Nets seem to be redundant under /src/contrib/ . It could be something like Analyzers Highlighter Similarity ... (Maybe, we should find a different name for contrib.net. It contains contributions specific to Lucene.Net which are not available in Lucene.java) DIGY On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Probably just a miss - but under the src/contrib folder you also have a number of tests in there... Also, is it necessary to have all the sub folders? For the most part the stuff in contrib.net is contrib.net - why the secondary folder? Unless that is a requirement of NUnit to have the structure that way it seems a bit cluttered. I would think something like src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/Snowball.net
Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project
Sounds good to me. I have done this previously in a local branch and noticed massive performance improvements. Removing all the casting in the library makes for dramatic speedups. As a side note: Chris Currens is in the process of benchmarking Lucene.Net running under .NET 4.0 vs 3.5 vs 2.0... This benchmarking is to prove what we found in our production deployments... Compiling and deploying as a .NET 4.0 assembly results in major improvements in both speed and correct memory handling (memory leaks magically disappear). We want to prove this with benchmarks before publishing a definitive statement about this however. If this is the case, there might be a very compelling reason to move forward to 4.0 runtime for Lucene.Net. Thanks, Troy On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:23 PM, digy digy digyd...@gmail.com wrote: After this directory layout changes; what about replacing ArrayLists, Hashtables etc, with appropriate Generics? This would bring us very close to lucene 3.0.3 (and not hard to do with the help of VS). DIGY On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good. I'll make a tag prior to starting the directory changes, but I'll commit changes to trunk. Thanks, Troy On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:55 AM, digy digy digyd...@gmail.com wrote: +1. No pending commits. A copy of the current trunk somewhere else(tag, branches etc.) would be good too. DIGY. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like we have a 'lazy consensus', in that, no one has raised any significant objections, a few minor modifications have been suggested (which sound totally reasonable), and those who did vote were positive. Barring any objections, this vote passes. Since DIGY and Scott seem to have gotten the bulk of the work on 2.9.4 finished, I think now is a good time to start the directory layout changes, and it won't be too intrusive to any active commits. I'll start on that this week. If you have any pending commits that would be totally screwed up by this directory change, please finalize those as soon as possible! Otherwise I'll be moving things around and your patches/commits might not be able to find the appropriate files. Thanks, Troy On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.com wrote: Any more thoughts on the directory structure? Quick Recap: We have Troy's original proposal here: http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/directory-structure-example/ bin/ build/ (various solution and project files) vs2008/ vs2010/ doc/ lib/ - third party libraries to make it easy to pull down the source and go src/ contrib/ core/ demo/ test/ contrib/ core/ demo/ From here, I further suggested cleaning up the contrib folder - because we have extra folders: src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ - src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ - src/contrib/Snowball.net/ Digy further suggested dropping the .net in all those folders above, and finding a better name for contrib.net. Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:41:17 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project Well, not really core. Codes under Analyzer(by DIGY) can be moved to /src/contrib/analyzers (but they are not ports from java). The others(by M.GARSKI) are extensions to the core(something like Lucene.Net.Core.Extensions) DIGY On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Troy Howard wrote: Yeah -- I also changed the Contrib.Net project folder name to ~/src/contrib/core ... IMO we should just roll these into the main library if they are solid, tested and useful.. This is keeping in line with our new philosophy about allowing .NET specific changes, even if it means diverging from Java Lucene to do it. Thanks, Troy On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Actually what IS contrib.net? It looks like it replaces certain files in Lucene.Net core - are they files better suited to .net? What are they? If they are plugins / additional contributions like snowball, etc - why not just break it out and include the appropriate stuff in contrib? Do we need to specify that they are not avaliable in the java version? Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:18:22 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project 0 .Nets seem to be redundant under /src/contrib/ . It could be something like Analyzers
Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project
We already have a release for .NET 2.0 (Lucene.Net 2.9.2). So, jumping to 4.0 shouldn't be a problem for Lucene,Net community. DIGY On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good to me. I have done this previously in a local branch and noticed massive performance improvements. Removing all the casting in the library makes for dramatic speedups. As a side note: Chris Currens is in the process of benchmarking Lucene.Net running under .NET 4.0 vs 3.5 vs 2.0... This benchmarking is to prove what we found in our production deployments... Compiling and deploying as a .NET 4.0 assembly results in major improvements in both speed and correct memory handling (memory leaks magically disappear). We want to prove this with benchmarks before publishing a definitive statement about this however. If this is the case, there might be a very compelling reason to move forward to 4.0 runtime for Lucene.Net. Thanks, Troy On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:23 PM, digy digy digyd...@gmail.com wrote: After this directory layout changes; what about replacing ArrayLists, Hashtables etc, with appropriate Generics? This would bring us very close to lucene 3.0.3 (and not hard to do with the help of VS). DIGY On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good. I'll make a tag prior to starting the directory changes, but I'll commit changes to trunk. Thanks, Troy On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:55 AM, digy digy digyd...@gmail.com wrote: +1. No pending commits. A copy of the current trunk somewhere else(tag, branches etc.) would be good too. DIGY. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like we have a 'lazy consensus', in that, no one has raised any significant objections, a few minor modifications have been suggested (which sound totally reasonable), and those who did vote were positive. Barring any objections, this vote passes. Since DIGY and Scott seem to have gotten the bulk of the work on 2.9.4 finished, I think now is a good time to start the directory layout changes, and it won't be too intrusive to any active commits. I'll start on that this week. If you have any pending commits that would be totally screwed up by this directory change, please finalize those as soon as possible! Otherwise I'll be moving things around and your patches/commits might not be able to find the appropriate files. Thanks, Troy On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.com wrote: Any more thoughts on the directory structure? Quick Recap: We have Troy's original proposal here: http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/directory-structure-example/ bin/ build/ (various solution and project files) vs2008/ vs2010/ doc/ lib/ - third party libraries to make it easy to pull down the source and go src/ contrib/ core/ demo/ test/ contrib/ core/ demo/ From here, I further suggested cleaning up the contrib folder - because we have extra folders: src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ - src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ - src/contrib/Snowball.net/ Digy further suggested dropping the .net in all those folders above, and finding a better name for contrib.net. Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:41:17 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project Well, not really core. Codes under Analyzer(by DIGY) can be moved to /src/contrib/analyzers (but they are not ports from java). The others(by M.GARSKI) are extensions to the core(something like Lucene.Net.Core.Extensions) DIGY On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Troy Howard wrote: Yeah -- I also changed the Contrib.Net project folder name to ~/src/contrib/core ... IMO we should just roll these into the main library if they are solid, tested and useful.. This is keeping in line with our new philosophy about allowing .NET specific changes, even if it means diverging from Java Lucene to do it. Thanks, Troy On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Actually what IS contrib.net? It looks like it replaces certain files in Lucene.Net core - are they files better suited to .net? What are they? If they are plugins / additional contributions like snowball, etc - why not just break it out and include the appropriate stuff in contrib? Do we need to specify that they are not avaliable in the java version
Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project
0 .Nets seem to be redundant under /src/contrib/ . It could be something like Analyzers Highlighter Similarity ... (Maybe, we should find a different name for contrib.net. It contains contributions specific to Lucene.Net which are not available in Lucene.java) DIGY On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.comwrote: Probably just a miss - but under the src/contrib folder you also have a number of tests in there... Also, is it necessary to have all the sub folders? For the most part the stuff in contrib.net is contrib.net - why the secondary folder? Unless that is a requirement of NUnit to have the structure that way it seems a bit cluttered. I would think something like src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/Snowball.net/ instead of src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ I don't know how people feel about that ~P Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:31:34 -0500 From: mhern...@wickedsoftware.net To: lucene-net-dev@lucene.apache.org CC: thowar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project +1 just a question though. for cmd/bat//sh files for letting people executing the build or just executing other tools from the command line, would those have a place in /bin or somewhere els? This is that someone can just export PATH = / SET PATH= to that one folder and then be able to execute those commands from one location? On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Troy Howard wrote: All, We'd like to update the project directory structure/layout. See below for a proposed layout. I've also uploaded an example which you can navigate at: http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/directory-structure-example NOTE: This will not build!! I just put things in the appropriate places without updating the solution/project files to show how we might lay things out. Also, I included NUnit as an example of a third-party dependency that we might include in the repository under 'lib'. We of course will *not* be distributing NUnit in this manner, due to licensing restrictions. Ok, disclaimer over... Please vote on this layout, or suggest a modification or alternative layout. Voting will be open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 Use this directory structure exactly as described, or with a minor modification [ ] 0 Use a different structure (described in response) [ ] -1 Do not change the directory structure at all Text description of directory schema: Build Files: \build \build\VS2008 \build\VS2010 Source Projects: \src \src\contrib \src\core \src\demo \src\contrib\ \src\core\ \src\demo\ Test Projects: \test \test\contrib \test\core \test\demo \test\contrib\ \test\core\ \test\demo\ Product Documentation: \doc \doc\contrib \doc\core \doc\demo \doc\contrib\ \doc\core\ \doc\demo\ Third-Party Dependencies: \lib \lib\ \lib\\ \lib\\\ Binary Builds: \bin \bin\contrib \bin\core \bin\demo \bin\contrib\ \bin\core\ \bin\demo\
Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project
I agree that the names are redundant. I definitely want to drop the .Net from the project names. At some point I'd like to revise the namespaces in the same manner, removing the superfluous '.Net' elements: Apache.Lucene.Core.xxx, Apache.Lucene.Contrib.xxx, Apache.Lucene.Demo.xxx etc... I also agree that there's no need for additional sub-directories under the projects folders... I've updated the example directory structure under contrib to remove the test projects I accidentally left in there, remove the extra depth of foldering, and remove the '.Net' designation from the folders. Project files would be updated as well (but I didn't do that). Michael: Regarding build scripts, those could go in ~/build directly, or maybe make a subdir there ~/build/scripts ... Thanks, Troy On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:18 PM, digy digy digyd...@gmail.com wrote: 0 .Nets seem to be redundant under /src/contrib/ . It could be something like Analyzers Highlighter Similarity ... (Maybe, we should find a different name for contrib.net. It contains contributions specific to Lucene.Net which are not available in Lucene.java) DIGY On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.comwrote: Probably just a miss - but under the src/contrib folder you also have a number of tests in there... Also, is it necessary to have all the sub folders? For the most part the stuff in contrib.net is contrib.net - why the secondary folder? Unless that is a requirement of NUnit to have the structure that way it seems a bit cluttered. I would think something like src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/Snowball.net/ instead of src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ I don't know how people feel about that ~P Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:31:34 -0500 From: mhern...@wickedsoftware.net To: lucene-net-dev@lucene.apache.org CC: thowar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project +1 just a question though. for cmd/bat//sh files for letting people executing the build or just executing other tools from the command line, would those have a place in /bin or somewhere els? This is that someone can just export PATH = / SET PATH= to that one folder and then be able to execute those commands from one location? On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Troy Howard wrote: All, We'd like to update the project directory structure/layout. See below for a proposed layout. I've also uploaded an example which you can navigate at: http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/directory-structure-example NOTE: This will not build!! I just put things in the appropriate places without updating the solution/project files to show how we might lay things out. Also, I included NUnit as an example of a third-party dependency that we might include in the repository under 'lib'. We of course will *not* be distributing NUnit in this manner, due to licensing restrictions. Ok, disclaimer over... Please vote on this layout, or suggest a modification or alternative layout. Voting will be open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 Use this directory structure exactly as described, or with a minor modification [ ] 0 Use a different structure (described in response) [ ] -1 Do not change the directory structure at all Text description of directory schema: Build Files: \build \build\VS2008 \build\VS2010 Source Projects: \src \src\contrib \src\core \src\demo \src\contrib\ \src\core\ \src\demo\ Test Projects: \test \test\contrib \test\core \test\demo \test\contrib\ \test\core\ \test\demo\ Product Documentation: \doc \doc\contrib \doc\core \doc\demo \doc\contrib\ \doc\core\ \doc\demo\ Third-Party Dependencies: \lib \lib\ \lib\\ \lib\\\ Binary Builds: \bin \bin\contrib \bin\core \bin\demo \bin\contrib\ \bin\core\ \bin\demo\
Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project
Well, not really core. Codes under Analyzer(by DIGY) can be moved to /src/contrib/analyzers (but they are not ports from java). The others(by M.GARSKI) are extensions to the core(something like Lucene.Net.Core.Extensions) DIGY On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah -- I also changed the Contrib.Net project folder name to ~/src/contrib/core ... IMO we should just roll these into the main library if they are solid, tested and useful.. This is keeping in line with our new philosophy about allowing .NET specific changes, even if it means diverging from Java Lucene to do it. Thanks, Troy On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Prescott Nasser geobmx...@hotmail.com wrote: Actually what IS contrib.net? It looks like it replaces certain files in Lucene.Net core - are they files better suited to .net? What are they? If they are plugins / additional contributions like snowball, etc - why not just break it out and include the appropriate stuff in contrib? Do we need to specify that they are not avaliable in the java version? Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:18:22 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-dev@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project 0 .Nets seem to be redundant under /src/contrib/ . It could be something like Analyzers Highlighter Similarity ... (Maybe, we should find a different name for contrib.net. It contains contributions specific to Lucene.Net which are not available in Lucene.java) DIGY On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Probably just a miss - but under the src/contrib folder you also have a number of tests in there... Also, is it necessary to have all the sub folders? For the most part the stuff in contrib.net is contrib.net - why the secondary folder? Unless that is a requirement of NUnit to have the structure that way it seems a bit cluttered. I would think something like src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/Snowball.net/ instead of src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ I don't know how people feel about that ~P Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:31:34 -0500 From: mhern...@wickedsoftware.net To: lucene-net-dev@lucene.apache.org CC: thowar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project +1 just a question though. for cmd/bat//sh files for letting people executing the build or just executing other tools from the command line, would those have a place in /bin or somewhere els? This is that someone can just export PATH = / SET PATH= to that one folder and then be able to execute those commands from one location? On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Troy Howard wrote: All, We'd like to update the project directory structure/layout. See below for a proposed layout. I've also uploaded an example which you can navigate at: http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/directory-structure-example NOTE: This will not build!! I just put things in the appropriate places without updating the solution/project files to show how we might lay things out. Also, I included NUnit as an example of a third-party dependency that we might include in the repository under 'lib'. We of course will *not* be distributing NUnit in this manner, due to licensing restrictions. Ok, disclaimer over... Please vote on this layout, or suggest a modification or alternative layout. Voting will be open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 Use this directory structure exactly as described, or with a minor modification [ ] 0 Use a different structure (described in response) [ ] -1 Do not change the directory structure at all Text description of directory schema: Build Files: \build \build\VS2008 \build\VS2010 Source Projects: \src \src\contrib \src\core \src\demo \src\contrib\ \src\core\ \src\demo\ Test Projects: \test \test\contrib \test\core \test\demo \test\contrib\ \test\core\ \test\demo\ Product Documentation: \doc \doc\contrib \doc\core \doc\demo \doc\contrib\ \doc\core\ \doc\demo\ Third-Party Dependencies: \lib \lib\ \lib\\ \lib\\\ Binary Builds: \bin \bin\contrib \bin\core \bin\demo \bin\contrib\ \bin\core\ \bin\demo\
Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project
+1 just a question though. for cmd/bat//sh files for letting people executing the build or just executing other tools from the command line, would those have a place in /bin or somewhere els? This is that someone can just export PATH = / SET PATH= to that one folder and then be able to execute those commands from one location? On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Troy Howard thowar...@gmail.com wrote: All, We'd like to update the project directory structure/layout. See below for a proposed layout. I've also uploaded an example which you can navigate at: http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/directory-structure-example NOTE: This will not build!! I just put things in the appropriate places without updating the solution/project files to show how we might lay things out. Also, I included NUnit as an example of a third-party dependency that we might include in the repository under 'lib'. We of course will *not* be distributing NUnit in this manner, due to licensing restrictions. Ok, disclaimer over... Please vote on this layout, or suggest a modification or alternative layout. Voting will be open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 Use this directory structure exactly as described, or with a minor modification [ ] 0 Use a different structure (described in response) [ ] -1 Do not change the directory structure at all Text description of directory schema: Build Files: \build \build\VS2008 \build\VS2010 Source Projects: \src \src\contrib \src\core \src\demo \src\contrib\project-name \src\core\project-name \src\demo\project-name Test Projects: \test \test\contrib \test\core \test\demo \test\contrib\project-name \test\core\project-name \test\demo\project-name Product Documentation: \doc \doc\contrib \doc\core \doc\demo \doc\contrib\project-name \doc\core\project-name \doc\demo\project-name Third-Party Dependencies: \lib \lib\vendor \lib\vendor\product \lib\vendor\product\version Binary Builds: \bin \bin\contrib \bin\core \bin\demo \bin\contrib\project-name \bin\core\project-name \bin\demo\project-name
RE: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project
Probably just a miss - but under the src/contrib folder you also have a number of tests in there... Also, is it necessary to have all the sub folders? For the most part the stuff in contrib.net is contrib.net - why the secondary folder? Unless that is a requirement of NUnit to have the structure that way it seems a bit cluttered. I would think something like src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/Snowball.net/ instead of src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ I don't know how people feel about that ~P Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:31:34 -0500 From: mhern...@wickedsoftware.net To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org CC: thowar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project +1 just a question though. for cmd/bat//sh files for letting people executing the build or just executing other tools from the command line, would those have a place in /bin or somewhere els? This is that someone can just export PATH = / SET PATH= to that one folder and then be able to execute those commands from one location? On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Troy Howard wrote: All, We'd like to update the project directory structure/layout. See below for a proposed layout. I've also uploaded an example which you can navigate at: http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/directory-structure-example NOTE: This will not build!! I just put things in the appropriate places without updating the solution/project files to show how we might lay things out. Also, I included NUnit as an example of a third-party dependency that we might include in the repository under 'lib'. We of course will *not* be distributing NUnit in this manner, due to licensing restrictions. Ok, disclaimer over... Please vote on this layout, or suggest a modification or alternative layout. Voting will be open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 Use this directory structure exactly as described, or with a minor modification [ ] 0 Use a different structure (described in response) [ ] -1 Do not change the directory structure at all Text description of directory schema: Build Files: \build \build\VS2008 \build\VS2010 Source Projects: \src \src\contrib \src\core \src\demo \src\contrib\ \src\core\ \src\demo\ Test Projects: \test \test\contrib \test\core \test\demo \test\contrib\ \test\core\ \test\demo\ Product Documentation: \doc \doc\contrib \doc\core \doc\demo \doc\contrib\ \doc\core\ \doc\demo\ Third-Party Dependencies: \lib \lib\ \lib\\ \lib\\\ Binary Builds: \bin \bin\contrib \bin\core \bin\demo \bin\contrib\ \bin\core\ \bin\demo\
RE: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project
Actually what IS contrib.net? It looks like it replaces certain files in Lucene.Net core - are they files better suited to .net? What are they? If they are plugins / additional contributions like snowball, etc - why not just break it out and include the appropriate stuff in contrib? Do we need to specify that they are not avaliable in the java version? Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:18:22 +0200 From: digyd...@gmail.com To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project 0 .Nets seem to be redundant under /src/contrib/ . It could be something like Analyzers Highlighter Similarity ... (Maybe, we should find a different name for contrib.net. It contains contributions specific to Lucene.Net which are not available in Lucene.java) DIGY On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Prescott Nasser wrote: Probably just a miss - but under the src/contrib folder you also have a number of tests in there... Also, is it necessary to have all the sub folders? For the most part the stuff in contrib.net is contrib.net - why the secondary folder? Unless that is a requirement of NUnit to have the structure that way it seems a bit cluttered. I would think something like src/contrib/contrib.net/ src/contrib/Snowball.net/ instead of src/contrib/contrib.net/contrib.net/ src/contrib/snowball/snowball.net/ I don't know how people feel about that ~P Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:31:34 -0500 From: mhern...@wickedsoftware.net To: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org CC: thowar...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lucene.Net] [VOTE] New Directory Layout for Project +1 just a question though. for cmd/bat//sh files for letting people executing the build or just executing other tools from the command line, would those have a place in /bin or somewhere els? This is that someone can just export PATH = / SET PATH= to that one folder and then be able to execute those commands from one location? On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Troy Howard wrote: All, We'd like to update the project directory structure/layout. See below for a proposed layout. I've also uploaded an example which you can navigate at: http://people.apache.org/~thoward/Lucene.Net/directory-structure-example NOTE: This will not build!! I just put things in the appropriate places without updating the solution/project files to show how we might lay things out. Also, I included NUnit as an example of a third-party dependency that we might include in the repository under 'lib'. We of course will *not* be distributing NUnit in this manner, due to licensing restrictions. Ok, disclaimer over... Please vote on this layout, or suggest a modification or alternative layout. Voting will be open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 Use this directory structure exactly as described, or with a minor modification [ ] 0 Use a different structure (described in response) [ ] -1 Do not change the directory structure at all Text description of directory schema: Build Files: \build \build\VS2008 \build\VS2010 Source Projects: \src \src\contrib \src\core \src\demo \src\contrib\ \src\core\ \src\demo\ Test Projects: \test \test\contrib \test\core \test\demo \test\contrib\ \test\core\ \test\demo\ Product Documentation: \doc \doc\contrib \doc\core \doc\demo \doc\contrib\ \doc\core\ \doc\demo\ Third-Party Dependencies: \lib \lib\ \lib\\ \lib\\\ Binary Builds: \bin \bin\contrib \bin\core \bin\demo \bin\contrib\ \bin\core\ \bin\demo\