[Marketing] a BIG thank you
I would like to extend a BIG thank you to all contributors and developers that made OpenOffice.org 2.0 possible. Marketing is that much easier with an excellent product and a friendly community that goes those extra steps and has fun on the way. I would especially like to thank those people I worked with most closely over the last week at all sorts of hours. As the OOo community email discussion lists slowed and messages from our @openoffice.org email alias were not timely, we smoothly shifted to using personal or work email addresses, Instant Messaging (IM), IRC, and even a wiki and the telephone. Thank you to Christian (cloph), Javier and Maarten for their feedback and eleventh hour tweaks. Special thanks to Craig, Charles, Bernhard, Cristian, Kazunari (khirano), John, Erwin, Stefan and Louis for the almost frenetic activity to work around the clock to see OpenOffice.org 2.0 successfully launched. OpenOffice.org 2.0 is announced and now available for a lot of people. Yay! As more languages emerge from QA, we expect additional excitement as announcements are forthcoming from each of the Native Language projects. So you can't stop clapping yet :) Regards Jacqueline - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Demand OpenDocument! Sign the petition.
Hi, Ian Lynch wrote: On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 19:00 +0200, Charles-H.Schulz wrote: Charles, why do you keep referring to the OpenDocumentfellowship as a private consortium? Its a public consortium in the sense that anyone can join as an advocate and members are in general members of the wider community that have something to offer as determined by their peers. Do you refer to other community projects in this way? Many members of the OpenOffice.org community are members of OpenDocumentFellowship but also there are members of the KOffice community, archiving people, OSC and people who are unaffiliated to any project. There is some overlap between promoting ODF and marketing OOo so I think for those people who are both members of the OOo marketing project and ODF members, a discussion of an ODF initiative is perfectly legitimate on the marketing list as would be a similar discussion relevant to say Firefox and OOo. Actually, I was not criticizing the Fellowship or its concept. If you, as you rightly put it, describe the fellowship as a different community from the one of OOo, then this list is not appropriate for such discussion. It's like if the Mozilla folks were coming in here and started to talk, order beer, and started a quarrel between themselves :-) ... Your discussion, although interesting from a theoretical point of view, I'd have said its interesting from a practical point of view. The petition has already generated publicity for ODF and for OpenOffice.org. It might or might not be successful in helping get MS to adopt ODF but if you don't make an effort you don't get anywhere. ODF is not interested in theoretical discussion, we are interested in practical activities that promote ODF as the standard for all players. As an independent group that is not specifically a subset of any other project or company we are in a rather good position to do that independently. Fairwell, then. But my problem is a problem of list, not a problem concerning the planning of your project. In what way? You can always just ignore the thread or filter it. If people take part in it its because they believe its important. If they don't the thread will die anyway. The only recent thread drawing similar interest is Its hard to beat office king I would have said that was a much more worthy candidate to go to social. Apart from that the list has been quite quiet so I don't see where all the hindering is happening. Hmm... Maybe it is because of the whole thread that the list grew recently quiet? But let's stop our discussion here, Ian. You and I do not want to transform this list in a talking shop, do we? :-) Best, Charles. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Demand OpenDocument! Sign the petition.
Daniel Carrera wrote: Hello all, Microsoft has said that they will support OpenDocument in MS Office if there is customer demand for it. The OpenDocument Fellowship has started a petition for Microsoft to support OpenDocument. To show that there /is/ demand for OpenDocument: SNIP I just signed the petition a short while ago (while admittedly I am not a user of Microsoft's software). However, I also forwarded your post (almost verbatim) to my family (most whom still are Msft customers), and the core Christian libre software community, many of whom still use Windows software. Even though I do not use Microsoft's software, I still have a vested interest in being able to share documents with those who do. I don't understand why not being a Microsoft customer would make my signature somehow illegitimate, as some have suggested. Even if Microsoft claims I am not *their* customer, I have to work with their customers all the time. So those of us who use OOo on GNU/Linux (or whatever office suite on whatever OS) have a legitimate reason to ask them to support ODF. As with others on this list, I agree that the ODF petition is relevant to the Marketing list, since ODF support is a selling point for OOo. Regards, Don - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Marketing] Demand OpenDocument! Sign the petition.
I'm just going to reply to this post because I wouldn't know which dissenting post to reply to. I don't know if I've seen a marketing post out of the past 200-odd posts I've received. Whereas promoting OpenDocument format is definitely beneficial to the success of open office, I think a lot of these posts (mine included) contribute nothing to the furthering of OpenOffice. I'm not sure how to put this softly, so take it for what it is. I don't mean to be insulting or mean, but...: All I've heard so far is a bit of MS-bashing and real-world reality checks. I don't know if this is the norm, but so far I've seen one potential marketing point: Maybe OpenOffice should spotlight this petition which I'm really more inferring than quoting and none of the responses addressed OpenOffice's reaction or what that reaction should be. All lists go off on tangents and I haven't been around long. I will assume that's exactly what this was, but either way, I'm being the voice of reason to please gear conversation back to marketing OpenOffice. -Dan PS - woohoo on 2.0 -Original Message- From: Charles-H.Schulz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:00 PM To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Subject: Re: [Marketing] Demand OpenDocument! Sign the petition. Folks, folks, folks. Sorry, don't take this as a rant, but let me bring you some news from the outside. OpenOffice.org has release OpenOffice.org 2.0 Check the pages of the Marketing Project if you wish to know more about it. I would like to remind you that you're all in favor of FLOSS, of OOo, and that you're trying (with some hassle, however) to evaluate how effective signing the petition of the private consortium OpendocumentFellowship could be in letting Microsoft know that you want to use the OpenDocument format. Your discussion, although interesting from a theoretical point of view, is hence more suited to lists such as social@openoffice.org . What's more, your constant chatter is hindering the work of the Marketing Project. Thank you for your understanding and my season's greetings. Charles-H.Schulz. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
