Re: [Marketing] HiPath OpenOffice

2007-10-27 Thread Alexandro Colorado

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:22:42 -0500, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 20:16 +, jonathon wrote:

Sharud wrote:

> As it is confusing with name "OpenOffice" , therefore we should raise  
this issue.


It is too late now, but
* "OpenOffice.org" should have been trademarked in at least every
major country, prior to being released;
* "OpenOffice" should have been trademarked in countries in which it
was not already a trademark;
* The OOo logos should have been trademarked, prior to release;

I realize that trademark registration is expensive.


Not that expensive. IIRC it was about £250 ($500) to trademark the
INGOTs and The Learning Machine in the UK. So in the whole scheme of
things trademarking OOo in the G8 countries is a negligible cost
compared to the salaries of the developers, community manager and web
site hosting etc.


Without, there
will eventually come a point where OOo will be legally required
to/forced to change names, because the usage by OOo is a trademark
infringement. (What is the current number of countries where the OOo
L10N team has to use a name other than OOo when distributing it,
because of the trademark infringement.)

The other option is to rename OOo now, and trademark the new name in
at least the major countries of the world, prior to the release of the
new version with the new name.


Interesting idea. What name would be suitable? Freedom office, perhaps?
or the People's Office? It would also counter MS and its OOXML piracy of
the name.

Ian


In mexico cost also 500 dls. I might do a search just in case (80 dls).

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Alexandro Colorado
CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES
http://es.openoffice.org

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Re: [Marketing] HiPath OpenOffice

2007-10-27 Thread Ian Lynch
On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 20:16 +, jonathon wrote:
> Sharud wrote:
> 
> > As it is confusing with name "OpenOffice" , therefore we should raise this 
> > issue.
> 
> It is too late now, but
> * "OpenOffice.org" should have been trademarked in at least every
> major country, prior to being released;
> * "OpenOffice" should have been trademarked in countries in which it
> was not already a trademark;
> * The OOo logos should have been trademarked, prior to release;
> 
> I realize that trademark registration is expensive. 

Not that expensive. IIRC it was about £250 ($500) to trademark the
INGOTs and The Learning Machine in the UK. So in the whole scheme of
things trademarking OOo in the G8 countries is a negligible cost
compared to the salaries of the developers, community manager and web
site hosting etc.

> Without, there
> will eventually come a point where OOo will be legally required
> to/forced to change names, because the usage by OOo is a trademark
> infringement. (What is the current number of countries where the OOo
> L10N team has to use a name other than OOo when distributing it,
> because of the trademark infringement.)
> 
> The other option is to rename OOo now, and trademark the new name in
> at least the major countries of the world, prior to the release of the
> new version with the new name.

Interesting idea. What name would be suitable? Freedom office, perhaps?
or the People's Office? It would also counter MS and its OOXML piracy of
the name.

Ian
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Re: [Marketing] HiPath OpenOffice

2007-10-27 Thread jonathon
Sharud wrote:

> As it is confusing with name "OpenOffice" , therefore we should raise this 
> issue.

It is too late now, but
* "OpenOffice.org" should have been trademarked in at least every
major country, prior to being released;
* "OpenOffice" should have been trademarked in countries in which it
was not already a trademark;
* The OOo logos should have been trademarked, prior to release;

I realize that trademark registration is expensive. Without, there
will eventually come a point where OOo will be legally required
to/forced to change names, because the usage by OOo is a trademark
infringement. (What is the current number of countries where the OOo
L10N team has to use a name other than OOo when distributing it,
because of the trademark infringement.)

The other option is to rename OOo now, and trademark the new name in
at least the major countries of the world, prior to the release of the
new version with the new name.

xan

jonathon

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[Marketing] [Fwd: [art] design for promo items]

2007-10-27 Thread Florian Effenberger
fyi
Please stick discussions to the art@ list :-)

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Datum: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:27:13 +0200
Von: Florian Effenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hello,

now I've got details on what we produce. ;-) This time, we're about to
produce:

Item #1) T-Shirts
Estimatedly about 1500 pieces
100% Cotton Heavy Weight Black T-Shirt
2 loctions of imprint
Sizes mixture between Large and XL

Design:
On one sleeve, we'll have a Sun logo. On the front, we'll have an
OpenOffice.org logo in color print. I'd propose we leave out the back in
order to not clutter the T-Shirt. Regarding size and design of the
front, I'm open up to everything. :-) We can make a small logo on the
chest, but also a larger on on the whole front.


Item #2) Mouse Pads
Estimatedly about 700 pieces
Vynex material (hard surface)
size: 1/16" x 8" x 9.5"
4 colors process imprint on mouse pad

Design:
We wanted to do a mouse pad with the most important hotkeys for various
OOo applications (like how to delete a cell from a table with the
keyboard). Shouldn't we be able to get them in time, we should do a
normal OOo-logo mouse pad, but I hope we can make it!


Item #3) Lanyards
Waiting for details from vendor yet, but they will look like the ones on
the Conference.

Design:
OOo logo and Sun logo should be included, so not much space for design
here. :-)


Items will be shipped to Sun offices in US and Germany and can be
distributed from there. I'd definitely need help for Item #1 and Item
#2, so please let your creativitiy flow. :-)

In order to have them in time, I'd hope we can have final design by the
end of next week. Anyone willing to volunteer and to help?

Thanks!
Florian

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Re: [Marketing] HiPath OpenOffice

2007-10-27 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi,

thanks for the pointer! I'm checking that.

Florian

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Re: [Marketing] HiPath OpenOffice

2007-10-27 Thread sharad kukreti

I have also gone into the http://enterprise.siemens.com/open and found that is 
not related to open source and open office project, only it is creating 
confusion in open source/free software community as they have used word “open” 
which is not even related to freedom/liberty for their solutions. As it is 
confusing with name “OpenOffice” , therefore we should raise this issue.
   
  Sharad Kukreti
   
  
Alex Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:16:29 Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> Hi anyone read about Siemens HiPath OpenOffice, I am still having a hard
> time defining what it is and if it at any point has to do with
> OpenOffice.org or not.
>
> www.siemens.co.uk/openoffice
>
> I would really want to get more input from this product that Siemen
> released and if there could be any issues with the branding.

Looking at their site, and remembering Siemens roots (they started out making 
PABX telephone systems), this seems to be a very fancy PIM and communications 
application. It seems to aim to integrate every communication medium that a 
business (specifically an SME) uses into a single desktop interface. 

It does not appear to be a productivity suite in the sense of MSO or OO.o (in 
fact, there appears to be no office suite - word-processor, spreadsheet 
etc. - component there at all.

That would be in keeping with Siemens' traditional business.

As for branding/copyright, that would be a matter for the legal people, 
although the fact they've run the words "open" and "office" together, as do 
we, could be an issue.

-- 
Alex Fisher

Co-Lead, CD-ROM Project

OpenOffice.org Marketing 
Community Contact
Australia/New Zealand


http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/


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