Re: [marketing] Logo for the 10th anniversary - request for approval
Hi Bernhard, all On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Dr. Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: Hi all, as time has already become short, we really need to have a logo we can use on our homepage and in marketing material spread by our project. Based on a design by Miguel Boto, a new member of the Art Project, I created a logo that I request approval as official 10th anniverary logo for: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:OOo10.png So please comment with +1 during the next three days (until Sept. 30th, 12:00 UTC), if you wan this logo to become the official 10th anniversary logo for OpenOffice.org. (If you dislike it or know any better one, you may vote -1 too ;-) ) It's probably redundant at this point, but +1 from me too :) Regards, Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Short Video Marking OOo's 10th Anniversary
Hi Florian, all, On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@openoffice.org wrote: [...] I really like the idea. Rosana already proposed this months ago, and we've tried to catch attention via the mailing lists as well as with the conference calls, but basically nobody was interested and no one contributed. I hope we can keep the ball going and pick up that topic again -- it would be indeed a great idea! Well, unfortunately I won't be able to do much (except maybe helping with editing if it becomes a reality) as I can't attend the conference - I was just wondering if there was interest in doing this. Maybe even the Oracle OOo team might be interested in helping out. I know the UX team made videos for Renaissance, maybe they'd be interested in playing a part for this? Hopefully Rosana will see this thread and join in. Regards, Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Short Video Marking OOo's 10th Anniversary
Hi all, With OpenOffice.org's 10th anniversary coming up and the gathering at OOoCon, I was wondering about the possibility of creating a short film/video marking this milestone - a brief history of the project - past, present and future. It would involve a few interviews with key people woven together with a narrative (accompanied by photos, graphics, archived materials, etc). Sounds easy, doesn't it ;) There is a real lack of video material about OOo, and a video like this could tell the story of OOo (and maybe even promote it a little). The conference might present a great opportunity to do some interviews in one place, but we could easily ask key people who can't make it to submit a short video talking about the significance of OOo to them, in their part of the world, etc. It would be a pretty big project, but it might be a story worth telling. What do you think? Regards, Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Can we really release OOo 3.2.1 in its current state ?
Hi Steven, You can find dev builds of upcoming versions of OOo at: http://download.openoffice.org/next/ Regards, Ivan. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Steven Shelton ste...@twilightmd.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/12/2010 10:09 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: As you perhaps know already, there is some effervescence in the francophone NLC about the new version 3.2.1. Where are you finding 3.2.1? I reported a bug (one that's pretty important to my office) that's supposed to be fixed in that version, but I haven't been able to find a link to even a nightly that contains those fixes to test them. - -- Steven Shelton Twilight Media Design www.TwilightMD.com www.GLOAMING.us -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvDL3sACgkQO+AD2HqgRoDPKwCg2NNd6HDIDRh440Tq28kxk6AS +hAAoJZsDOJ2Zw8rfN0AS6/mCPmd42is =GPao -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Follow MS Office branding with 11 single applications or go an independent way?
Hi Lars, Bernhard, all, On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.org wrote: On 2010-3-14 11:00 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: During the last ten years we've been very successful in being as similar to MS Office as possible. That's very unfortunate that there are some camps that managed to get inside the community that think that way. Or say that they think that way. It has been a barrier to making a good product. Perhaps... but what would OOo's market share would be if it decided to largely ignore what Microsoft Office was doing? How successful do you think OpenOffice.org would be if it hadn't tried to emulate Microsoft Office and market itself on that basis - at least for a certain period of time? I think Bernhard makes a very valid point, which is: yes, OpenOffice.org was this way in the past, but now it is sufficiently mature, well-known and regarded enough to stand on its two feet. Please, Bernhard, you know better than to troll the list on topics unrelated to OOo. I don't see how Bernhard's message is trolling. Microsoft Office remains OpenOffice.org's biggest competitor, so any major development there will likely have some bearing on OOo. There has probably been a large minority of users who have switched to OOo because they didn't like the ribbon, for example. We certainly should not be ignoring what others are doing (and that includes everyone: iWork, Symphony, KOffice, AbiWord, etc.) because what they do has a bearing on OOo, just as what OOo does has a bearing on them (as the discussions on this list point out quite often). At the same time, we should realize that OpenOffice.org is a unique product (a widely recognised one at that) that can set its own directions and conventions. This is the crux of the matter as I see it. If you want to compare OOo to some products let's take a step back and look at what's leading the market as far as being a good product. One that stands out would be iWork, which apparently gets a lot of its inspiration from the now defunct Lighthouse Design's presentation graphics package Concurrence. However, that is more a UX discussion than a marketing discussion. Of course, other projects should be involved, but IMO it's a marketing discussion as much as a UX one. Regards, Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Download numbers are not correct
Hi Kami, On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai kami...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Somehow the 3.0 download stat is reseted to half value of original. http://marketing.openoffice.org/marketing_bouncer.html Can you fix it? You have to add the two numbers together to get the total number of downloads since OOo 3.0 was released. The upper number shows the number of downloads since OOo 3.1 was released, and the lower number shows the number of downloads between the release of OOo 3.0 and 3.1; adding them together gives over 110 million, which, seeing as we recently passed the 100 million mark, seems right. Regards, Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] [Fwd: [releases] 3.2 New Features page]
Hi John, One more typo: Encription (wrong spelling) under the heading Proprietary file support Regards, Ivan. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Steven Shelton ste...@twilightmd.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/2/2009 1:41 PM, John McCreesh wrote: Please have a look through the text and let me know of any factual errors, or if there's anything missing which end users should know about in the core product (not extensions). Found some typos: As OpenOffice.org 3.2 currently requires a superset of the ODF 1.2 specification, the aoftware now warns users when /ODF 1.2 Extended/ features have been used. I'm pretty sure that should be the software now warns users . . . Similarly, nserting or deleting cells, columns or rows into/from the middle of merged cells, which previously caused an error message, is now possible should read Inserting or deleting cells . . . I think under Locales, this line: OpenOffice.org 3.1 adds locale data for Oromo_Ethiopia [om-ET], . . . should actually refer to OO 3.2. There's also a stray bullet under the Writer heading. Can users now print tables in Base? I had heard that this was going to be possible, but I haven't seen any documentation of it. If so, it should be included. (That's always been one of my pet peeves; if I want to print a table, I have to export it to Calc or something instead of just hitting PRINT.) - -- Steven Shelton Twilight Media Design, LLC 17195 Silver Parkway #134 Fenton, MI 48430 www.TwilightMD.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFLFrhbKP0FWmSVanERApw1AJ4+GNjHK0WOGuPTzfQHt2PwfmKeAgCfa3LK r7Gvv3qLNT3Gz60u6a9axuk= =vpKu -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] new why page
Hi Per, John, all, It's nice to see discussion on the why page - this has been the OOo website's weak point for too long. Andre Wyrwa's impressive proposal had difficulties with IE6 and the content on that site has since become outdated. Maybe the best and easiest way to go would be something clear and simple, like Per's proposal. I've started working on putting together a draft of the new Products page - something similar to Christoph Noack's proposal: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tTTNPiZLsHQQ8pzpSGA6Iw?feat=directlink. It might be a good idea to integrate this with the new why.OOo page(s) to avoid duplicating content. What do you think? Regards, Ivan. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Per Erikssonpereriks...@openoffice.org wrote: John McCreesh skrev: On Tue, July 14, 2009 20:35, Per Eriksson wrote: Hello, John McCreesh skrev: I like the layout, but I'm wondering: * who is this page aimed at * what do we want them to do as a result of reading it * what reasons do we give them for doing so If we can answer these, I think we can sharpen the page up a bit. I will try to answer these. The page is aimed at anyone who is interested in learning more about OpenOffice.org. The visitor normally says: Show me what you've got. You have 1 minute.. The page starts the initial communication to new users the key reasons to use OpenOffice.org. I also provides sections for targeted audiences. The user can extremely easily choose how much they want to read. When they are done, see below. Why are they interested in learning about OOo? I guess either because they don't have an office suite and have heard of the free alternatives, or they are using Microsoft Office and want an alternative. This makes them want to learn more about the product. Maybe straighten things out. What need(s) are they hoping to satisfy with OOo? They know it's free. They know open source is cool and great software. We want the user to download the software. The download button is easily recognizable through the green button and it should look very tempting to press it. :-) Good, that's a simple objective, and it's very easy to measure if the page is successful :-) I am not sure how to answer the third question? Can you help me based on the first two answers please? What have we told them on this page that will convince them to click the big green button? We have created an image of OpenOffice.org as a very modern, free product and an alternative to Microsoft Office. We're trying to get inside the minds of the people who look at this page. As you say, we have one minute to convince them. So what do we need to tell them - e.g. OOo will do everything that the pirate copy of MS-Office on your PC will do except land you in jail ;-) I agree the page is missing info about it working with your existing documents. It should be mentioned under Openness. I'll make a couple of enhancements and post a note here. Per - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] new why page
Hi John, On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:42 AM, John McCreeshjp...@openoffice.org wrote: I think these have different audiences. * the products pages are focused on the features of OOo: what does each of the apps do? has Calc got a solver feature? etc. * the why pages are focused on benefits: why should I use OOo? what needs does it fill? Those are perfectly valid questions, but there may also be others, like: What do I get with OOo? (e.g. with MS Office, there are many product editions, many of which contain programs like Outlook, Groove, etc, which OOo doesn't have equivalents for.) Another could be What can I do with the programs in OOo? I think the products page is intended to address these kinds of questions. However, I envision the people asking these questions as a subset of the same audience that might head to why.OOo for their answers, and I would see the people asking the questions you mentioned as another, probably larger subset (though there will be an overlap). I'm not suggesting full integration with the why.OOo page, but rather a few links from within why.OOo pointing to the appropriate products pages for those that want to know this additional information - there may be a good deal of people with extensive knowledge, who already know what an office suite is, but they want a better idea of what they're looking at. The goal would be to increase the visibility of the products section and I think there might be some information there that visitors to the why.OOo website might be interested in. Regards, Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Updates to the Dashboard Concept
Hi Ben, all, I always get excited when there's discussion about a dashboard :P Ben, thank you for sharing your design with us! Having the dashboard in HTML is a great idea: just change the CSS and you can get a completely different layout. Plus, the use of HTML and JS could work really well for attracting a broad range of contributors/developers, as you mentioned. There would probably be a lot of XML involved too (e.g. recent file lists). There would also probably be security considerations with JS that might complicate the implementation of this idea - but the potential is huge. Here's a thought that got me thinking about your proposal: it might seem odd to users that they would be able to customize the dashboard so heavily, but not the rest of OOo (and I've seen many suggestions by users saying that OOo should be skinnable). Although this matter is well beyond the scope of the dashboard (and I think that a customizable dashboard is a wonderful idea), it does make me wonder - what if OOo (or at least, some parts of it) could be skinned with CSS (a crazy idea, I know...)? I'll add some more comments on your proposal later - I'm short on time these days, but with a juicy topic (and a juicy mockup) like this I just couldn't resist :) Regards, Ivan. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@laposte.net wrote: Le 03.06.2009 03:57, Benjamin Horst a écrit : Hello, I've been working on the Dashboard concept some more and have the following semi-functional mockup to share. This would appear in the OOo application window where the start center now appears. http://www.laboratory9.com/openoffice/oo_sample.php It looks very interesting. I suggest to add direct access to some help documentation such as FAQ, wiki, getting started in 3 pages for each module (perhaps 3 pages is to long) and complete guide if available. Another point : recent documents should show full names, in order to not have to use mouse to get tooltip with the full filename. Regards JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Updates to the Dashboard Concept
P.S. I just noticed that you sent this to the marketing list - please send a link to the UX list too as there is interest in this idea over there as well! On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Ivan M i2initiati...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ben, all, I always get excited when there's discussion about a dashboard :P Ben, thank you for sharing your design with us! Having the dashboard in HTML is a great idea: just change the CSS and you can get a completely different layout. Plus, the use of HTML and JS could work really well for attracting a broad range of contributors/developers, as you mentioned. There would probably be a lot of XML involved too (e.g. recent file lists). There would also probably be security considerations with JS that might complicate the implementation of this idea - but the potential is huge. Here's a thought that got me thinking about your proposal: it might seem odd to users that they would be able to customize the dashboard so heavily, but not the rest of OOo (and I've seen many suggestions by users saying that OOo should be skinnable). Although this matter is well beyond the scope of the dashboard (and I think that a customizable dashboard is a wonderful idea), it does make me wonder - what if OOo (or at least, some parts of it) could be skinned with CSS (a crazy idea, I know...)? I'll add some more comments on your proposal later - I'm short on time these days, but with a juicy topic (and a juicy mockup) like this I just couldn't resist :) Regards, Ivan. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@laposte.net wrote: Le 03.06.2009 03:57, Benjamin Horst a écrit : Hello, I've been working on the Dashboard concept some more and have the following semi-functional mockup to share. This would appear in the OOo application window where the start center now appears. http://www.laboratory9.com/openoffice/oo_sample.php It looks very interesting. I suggest to add direct access to some help documentation such as FAQ, wiki, getting started in 3 pages for each module (perhaps 3 pages is to long) and complete guide if available. Another point : recent documents should show full names, in order to not have to use mouse to get tooltip with the full filename. Regards JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Login doesn't work
Hi Alexjan, Could this explain the problem? http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=94328 and the first item under Known Issues at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Website/What%27s_New/2008_Refresh#Known_Issues You are logged in, but due to caching, the header might say that you are logged out. CTRL+F5 (force refresh) will usually get the correct login status to show (depending on your browser), but this is a known issue. I've raised it many times but no one seems to have done anything about it :( Regards, Ivan. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Alexjan Carraturo axjsl...@gmail.com wrote: I try to login to marketing.openoffice.org, but without succes; I try to change my password, and the site make me change it. I know that the password is right, but when i try to login, it do nothing, and show me that I'm not logged. I'm doing someting wrong? -- Alexjan Carraturo admin of Free Software Users Group Italia http://www.fsugitalia.org Fedora Ambassador: Axjslack - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] A different Market focus
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Ivan M i2initiati...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Graham, Just a small suggestion... On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org wrote: Some months back I touted the idea of a Google OOo campaign. The idea was to make it very easy and minimal cost for local communities to produce simple flyers and posters that give a simple call to action. The Google OOo statement would be the central part of the flyers with a simple message included. The messages would be translated into the local language or messages more appropriate to the local culture. The key is not to explain but to excite curiosity, to reinforce the call to an action. Because Google brands some of its software with its name - e.g. Google Earth - the flyer might appear to be advertising a piece of Google software - so people might search for Google OOo expecting something from a Google domain. My suggestion would be to have Google OOo, to make the intended action more clear. ... and the why.OOo page should be updated - at least in terms of design - before any major marketing campaign starts (that's not such a small suggestion, but since I'm on a roll... :P) Regards, Ivan. P.S. The first thing that came up when I Googled OOo from Firefox [1] is a stock graph of Stream Global Services, Inc [2]. However, I tried the same search in Safari [3] and IE [4] and OpenOffice.org was indeed the first result - however, you may notice that these other browsers searched via google.com by default, while FF searched via google.co.nz, so this seems to be the cause. [1] http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=OOoie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a [2] http://finance.google.com/finance?client=obq=AMEX:OOO [3] http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=OOoie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8 [4] http://www.google.com/search?q=OOorls=com.microsoft:*ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8startIndex=startPage=1 Regards, Ivan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] A different Market focus
Hi Graham, Just a small suggestion... On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org wrote: Some months back I touted the idea of a Google OOo campaign. The idea was to make it very easy and minimal cost for local communities to produce simple flyers and posters that give a simple call to action. The Google OOo statement would be the central part of the flyers with a simple message included. The messages would be translated into the local language or messages more appropriate to the local culture. The key is not to explain but to excite curiosity, to reinforce the call to an action. Because Google brands some of its software with its name - e.g. Google Earth - the flyer might appear to be advertising a piece of Google software - so people might search for Google OOo expecting something from a Google domain. My suggestion would be to have Google OOo, to make the intended action more clear. ... and the why.OOo page should be updated - at least in terms of design - before any major marketing campaign starts (that's not such a small suggestion, but since I'm on a roll... :P) Regards, Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [cd-rom] Happy New Year
Hi Ian, On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:52 PM, ian.ly...@zmsl.com wrote: I would say the problem is a lack of concrete discussion; I'm sure that if someone put forward a [specific] suggestion about what they think would be good to have on the homepage / some other page(s) on the OOo website, they won't be ignored. I'm just thinking back to a few years ago when this sort of discussion was much more common. Nothing happened so pretty well all those involved appear to have moved on to other things. That's why I was careful to write *concrete* discussions - discussions which result in action (at least more often than inaction). [...] The solution is simply one of delegation. Give the marketing leads control over the front page of the web site. That is a simple decision but it requires trusting the marketing project leads - but why have them if they can't be trusted with some real influence? What does democracy mean in the project? Both marketing project leads have access to the front page. Florian has been updating the news items on the home page for a long time. The idea for the action statements came from Graham, a member of the marketing list, and there was input on other areas from marketing members on the website-dev list... so other than the website-dev list, I would say that the marketing list (or at least some of its members) has had the biggest influence on the front page of the website. In line with the original goals of the homepage (to get users to the more specific page they want more quickly and easily), I think the 'why' website would be a much better focus for topical marketing campaigns, with a news item on the homepage to promote it. But that would take a co-ordinated effort which has been lacking. If there is a push from this list, is there any reason why you couldn't harness the talents of the website-dev and art lists to help create a great marketing campaign? Regards, Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Bouncer Stats
Hi all (though this email is meant mainly for the project leads), The download thermometer linked from the homepage is outdated [1]; it should have exploded by now :) - OOo is currently at almost 27 million downloads. The bouncer stats page [2] is also not showing any graph data (last 28 days), presumably due to the month/year change (Y2K + 8 bug? :) ) Regards, Ivan. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/news/thermometer.png [2] http://marketing.openoffice.org/marketing_bouncer.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [cd-rom] Happy New Year
Hi Alexandro, It's in the project called 'www'. Regards, Ivan. On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org wrote: On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:13:31 -0600, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: ian.ly...@zmsl.com wrote (1-1-2009 20:32) The policy of not touching the front-page is a big mistake since it give us little to work with. Most of the communication is obscure to the user, just like the 'why' campaigns and others. IMHO if the marketing project means anything it should have full control over what goes on the front page of the web site. After all, it is the shop window for the project. The fact that the front page isn't in the control of the obvious community members that take responsibility for marketing says something significant about project management. John and Florian do a lot for the front page of OpenOffice.org Where is the frontpage located on the CVS? I tried to look for it the other day but never could found it. I thought it would be on website.openoffice.org but turned out the www folder is empty. And most of the uploads are from way back into 2003. -- Alexandro Colorado CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Re: [cd-rom] Happy New Year
Hi Alexandro, Ian, all, On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org wrote: This is something that Mkt has been lacking since its inception. There is no webdeveloper/artist/copywritter position and of course uploading rights to just coordinate a sitewide campaign. +1. Marketing should work more closely in collaboration with the website and art lists for upcoming campaigns/marketing materials. The policy of not touching the front-page is a big mistake since it give us little to work with. Most of the communication is obscure to the user, just like the 'why' campaigns and others. The why campaign - from a website design point of view at least - is not one of OOo's success stories. The new design has been shelved for almost 2 years now. In the meantime, much of the information there is now obsolete. The reason for its shelving was that the CollabNet framework (template code) broke it for IE6 (I tried but failed at making it work, though it can be done by excluding the Collabnet code in the CollabNet templates). The existing design was broken in IE6 anyway until 2008 IIRC. It is also not ideal because of a break in continuity and style; the design switches from the OOo website to a website that looks very different. So there's one thing that the lists could work together on :) On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:32 AM, ian.ly...@zmsl.com wrote: IMHO if the marketing project means anything it should have full control over what goes on the front page of the web site. After all, it is the shop window for the project. The fact that the front page isn't in the control of the obvious community members that take responsibility for marketing says something significant about project management. I would say the problem is a lack of concrete discussion; I'm sure that if someone put forward a [specific] suggestion about what they think would be good to have on the homepage / some other page(s) on the OOo website, they won't be ignored. - Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Contact bizdev/developers WAS Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org Community Mapping Project
Hi Alexandro, Have you considered something like: http://webplicity.net/flexigrid/ ? It has searching, re-sorting, showing/hiding columns, etc. And the data remains visible when JS is turned off. - Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OOo 3 countdown?
Hi Georg, Florian, all, On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Georg Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think JavaScript would work. But our good people on the website mailinglist should know better. Indeed, JavaScript is the way to go. I was inspired by Fedora 9's countdown [1], which people could embed on their websites. The script that handles the countdown can be found at [2]. That's the easy part - the most important things are the graphics :) Regards, Ivan. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter [2] http://fedoraproject.org/static/js/release-counter-ext.js - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] OOo 3 countdown?
Hello all, With the release of OOo coming up this month, what do you think about having a countdown graphic on the homepage? Popular Linux distros, such as Ubuntu [1] and Fedora [2] have used this approach, and given OOo's increasing popularity, I think it would help raise awareness about the new release. Your thoughts? Regards, Ivan. -- [1] see, for example: http://www.ubuntu.com/files/countdown/804/ubuntu/804UbuntuCountdown_17days.jpg [2] see, for example: http://fedoraproject.org/static/images/counter/en/fedora9-countdown-09.en.png - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OOo 3 countdown?
Hi Florian, On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Florian Effenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] that would be a good idea - but we can only do it as soon as we know a fixed release date... I thought it was Septermber 16th [1] + 2 weeks, but it doesn't matter if the fixed release date is not known yet - when we do know, the countdown can be added to the homepage. If people here like the idea, then maybe someone on the art list could design a graphic for the countdown - by that time, hopefully the release date will be known :) Regards, Ivan. --- [1] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease30#OOo_3.0_Final - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Congrats OOo! Best Project Winner - Sourceforge Community Choice Awards
... and best project for the enterprise ... and best project for educators Linux got most likely to change the world, but still, OOo came on top! Somewhat ironically, Microsoft is the diamond sponsor of the contest. http://sourceforge.net/community/cca08 How about featuring these great awards on the homepage? A pat on the back for everyone! - Ivan.
Re: [marketing] Re: [art] Re: [marketing] Re: [art] Re: [marketing] splash screen contest extended for two weeks
Hi Florian, all, Could you please specify the dimensions of the different graphics that need to be submitted? e.g. the NSIS installer image - Stella's proposal is 164 × 314 pixels, Kamonwan's is 164 × 312 pixels (as is mine). What about the other NSIS image (there is the big one that appears on the left hand side, and the short wide one that appears on the top) - in the Beta 1 setup, it was just the plain OOo logo on the right and it didn't fit with the default system background (see [1] - ideally, the image should be full width), compare with [2]. One last question - would it be possible to have a background image for the about box, instead of just a top image, as Kamonwan did [3]? I've uploaded vector versions of my designs (using Nikash's 3 gulls) if anyone wants to play around with these (Fireworks PNG PSD formats) [4],[5]. I was having trouble designing a rectangular non-transparent splash screen - you can see how far I got [4]. All other materials (NSIS, start center, etc) are included in [5]. Thanks, Ivan. [1] http://www.patentpending.co.nz/images/openoffice/installer-screenshot.png [2] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Image:OOo3-3gulls-SetupTop.png [3] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Image:Ooo-about-1.png [4] http://www.patentpending.co.nz/images/openoffice/ooo3-proposal-splash.zip (1MB) [5] http://www.patentpending.co.nz/images/openoffice/ooo3-proposal-other.zip (2.4MB) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] OOo 3 download party / get.openoffice.org?
One possibility might be to add a day-by-day countdown graphic (e.g. 10 days to go) on the homepage starting, say 30 days from the launch, to raise awareness (some linux distros have done this, e.g. Ubuntu, Fedora) Perhaps instead of get.OOo, something could be done with the existing download.OOo page or in conjunction with why.OOo? - Ivan. On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Dmitri Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I can provide the source files if anyone wants to do it properly. Kind regards, Dmitri On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I like it too, however that blue is different from our site and our splashscreen. On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:34:01 -0500, Luke Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like it, nice and simple with a good color scheme. -- From: Dmitri Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:25 PM To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Subject: Re: [marketing] OOo 3 download party / get.openoffice.org? Hello, To get the ball rolling, here is my stab at an OpenOffice.org wallpaper: http://flickr.com/photos/dmpop/2661687320/ (For some reason it looks dithered on Flickr but OK on the desktop). The wallpaper is based on this file: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE+Lineart+Logo+for+16%3A10+displays?content=71676 Kind regards, Dmitri On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Luke Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this idea, nice thinking ;) and yea, I'd be happy to create something or the other along those lines once i get my new laptop. I like the feature oriented banners, could possibly have a rotating one as well with all the banners together rotating if that makes sense, like common adverts do, but in a good way. -- From: Dmitri Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:07 PM To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Subject: Re: [marketing] OOo 3 download party / get.openoffice.org? Hi guys, I'm no marketing guru by any stretch of imagination, but that doesn't stop me from chiming in with a few ideas. :-) I think all your suggestions are great, but as an average OpenOffice.org user I'd like to see more stuff that would help me to promote OpenOffice.org and create a hype around the 3.0 release. For example, I'd gladly place a banner on my website, but I couldn't find any. Yes, I know about http://ui.openoffice.org/VisualDesign/OOo_banner.html but these banners are outdated and, frankly, not very attractive. How about creating feature-focused banners instead of just the generic get it now ones? For example: OpenOffice.org 3.0. Now with PDF import, or OpenOffice.org 3.0: infinitely extensible (refers to OOo extensions). Why not to make a call for OpenOffice.org 3.0 wallpapers? I'm sure there are a lot of talented OOo users who would love to create some good-looking wallpapers. Also, why not create a YouTube video that demonstrates new features in OpenOffice.org 3.0? Just my two cents. Kind regards, Dmitri On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 4:34 PM, KAMI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we can set an another world record in the most bytes donwloaded during 24 hours. KAMI BTW download party is a good idea... Charles-H. Schulz írta: Hello, We're trying to organize something in Paris if anyone is interested. It would not be a download party, but just a party with lots of people. Best, Charles. Le 7 juil. 08 à 10:27, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi Malte, What about doing some OOo 3.0 download party / get.openoffice.org? We never can beat FF3 downloads, but surely it will give the release high visibility. if we find some people organizing this, you definitely have my vote. :-) We shouldn't try to copy Mozilla, so maybe someone has a clever idea on how this should look in detail. Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] Open Source Project most likely to Change the World
I voted for OOo as well. Perhaps we could get this on the home page / news page / download page? - Ivan. On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Alexandro Colorado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:28:17 -0500, John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open Source Project most likely to Change the World ... it must be OOo surely? If you agree, please vote here: http://sourceforge.net/community/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/nominate.html Name: OpenOffice.org Url: http://www.openoffice.org John Just voted. Great idea, maybe com should also pick it up. -- Alexandro Colorado CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [marketing] Re: OT: Re: [website-dev] schedule for going live
I've tried to include the word 'free' in the title (OpenOffice.org - The free, open source productivity suite as opposed to the current OpenOffice.org) as well as the download action statement, but it could definitely be given some more prominence. Graham's suggestion, your free productivity upgrade sounds good. Or maybe something like Freed productivity? I'm against adding any extra graphics to the homepage in fear of clogging it - e.g. FREE stars/buttons/banners. The campaign/banner ad seems like a good place to emphasize it instead of the action statements, do we want to rub it in people's faces that much? I think they'll get the idea soon enough. - Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[marketing] Re: [Marketing] Website Redesign Content
I'm going to 'bump' this, since there's been no discussion on it for almost a week, and it's already mid-January. So please, we need to decide: * positioner text (your next productivity/office upgrade, etc) * navigation tabs: which ones from the current website should stay, and should any new ones be added? * sub-text for the action statements * sub-pages that the action statements link to * any footer text/links + any additional content Please reply with your thoughts on as many of these as possible (in order to avoid talking about the positioner only) To review the new proposed design, visit http://www.patentpending.co.nz/openoffice/index.html Thanks, Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Website Redesign Content
Hi everyone, The look of the new OpenOffice.org homepage is currently being worked on (a good indication of where it's headed can be seen at www.patentpending.co.nz/openoffice). This is based on the action statements approach that was discussed on this list in December, and the main goal of this new homepage is to increase downloads. When an action statement is clicked, additional content with links to relevant pages will appear under it, and all other content below it will slide further down. This has not been implemented yet, but you can get an idea of what it will look like here: http://moofx.mad4milk.net/ The only exception to this rule might be I want to learn more about OpenOffice.org, which could jump straight to why.openoffice.org (by the way, what is the status on the new design for why.openoffice.org?- I think it would be great if it could be launched with the new design). Here is where your input is needed - the wording of all the content. Which links should go in the navigation bar? How much content should go in the footer? What text should go below I need help with my OpenOffice.org? What links should be displayed (i.e. forum, documentation, etc) when it is clicked, and how should it be worded? Because the action statements are more verbose, the content could follow a similar approach. Instead of a simple bulleted list appearing under I want to participate in OpenOffice.org with these options - file bug report - donate - join projects, each of these links could be accompanied by 1 or 2 friendly, informative sentences explaining each link. A wiki page has been set up for this: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Website/Content or, you could continue the discussion here. We are aiming to launch this month, so your input would be appreciated. Thanks, Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Website Redesign Content
Hi Graham (please scroll down for reply to Viktor's email), The thing that concerns me is that thee seems to be more and more Stuff getting onto the page. That's why this message was posted here - to determine just how much stuff is needed. I think the navbar would be useful for more frequent visitors. It would also ensure consistency with other pages that will be using the same header graphic - pages where a navbar would be necessary. The footer is one area where there definitely should be some pruning, however I don't know if every page must have a link to the terms of use and the Sun smallprint - someone on this list probably will. If someone is looking for press releases, which action statement do they click if there is no footer? Because the marketing project deals with press releases, its members should to decide whether a link to this information is important enough for the homepage (and I assume it might be). The other links are debatable - probably unnecessary, but those decisions should be made either collectively or by someone who can say exactly why they need to/should be there. I must admit that I'm partial to the explanatory subtitles as well, however they have to be informative but short. More of a subheader than an explanation. Think of it like a Positioner for the page that it's aimed at. It has to sell the link. This could work well - could you try writing up with a few of these subtitles so we have a starting point? OOo Oldie? Upgrade or update, right here, right now Upgrade or update will likely be one and the same to the user, and this completely ignores the first-time-user, who may not necessarily download from the why.openoffice.org, or who may have already heard about it and just wants to download it - how about putting in something related to 'switching' as well? Viktor, About 'your next office upgrade', it eliminates individual home user. ALL text and content on that page is up for debate. I'm sorry if I didn't make this clear - the content on there was put there by me, and the purpose of this discussion is for the wider community to initiate the decision making process - the textual content (all links, subtitles, text, etc) there is NOT meant to be indicative, or to influence what the final product will look like. The positioner, the footer, the subtitles and even the navbar are all up for changes or removal. Thanks, Ivan. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
