RE: [marketing] A different Market focus

2009-02-04 Thread Savoia Computer Support
Linda, you do realize that you not only spammed the mailbox of the
newsgroup, but every one who subscribes to it. There are now two dozen
copies of your request in my mail folders.

I am just another subscriber to this group and I am almost ready to
unsubscribe myself just to keep your e-mails from clogging my mailbox.

As someone else said earlier, once is enough. Send a request to
dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org give them a chance to remove you
from the list.

Thank you.


Rick Savoia
The Force Field podcast for IT service providers
http://www.theforcefield.net



-Original Message-
From: Linda Tarrant [mailto:li...@hexco.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:57 PM
To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
Subject: RE: [marketing] A different Market focus

How do I get off this email list???  I've unsubscribed over and over!!!
Linda

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From: kr.abhis...@sun.com [mailto:kr.abhis...@sun.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:09 PM
To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
Subject: Re: [marketing] A different Market focus

All you have to do is to read the footer any of the emails you have 
received from this alias. It clearly reads:

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Hope that helps... Gotta go.. I have tens of repeated email to delete 
from my inbox! :P

Regards,

Abhishek
http://krabhishek.com

Linda Tarrant wrote:
 What do I have to do to get off your email list???  

 -Original Message-
 From: Graham Lauder [mailto:yori...@openoffice.org] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:34 PM
 To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [marketing] A different Market focus

 On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:23:38 Juergen Schmidt wrote:
   
 Hi,
 

 Hi Juergen,

   
 hey please stop to promote Google. You should think more about a neutral
 campaign focusing on OO.org only. As far as i know Google does nothing
 for the project. They spent some money for OOCon, fine and thanks a lot.
 But that's it. They had kick us out of GSOC last year, they don't pay
 for any developers, they don't pay anything or they don't do anything to
 support the project. I asked the Google guy in Beijing if this situation
 is going to change some time in the future and he mentioned no. So why
 should we do a campaign where we ask people to use Google ...

 Well, most people will use it anyway but that is of course a different
 story and we should focus on our own stuff.

 Just my 2 cents

 Juergen
 

 Whether we like it or not, in the english speaking world there are two 
 googles:
 Google the noun and google the verb.

 Just like putting an advert on TV doesn't promote TV, we are not promoting

 Google, we are using google to promote OOo

 The Google: OOo idea is a call for action.  The idea is to incite
curiosity 
 so that the viewer takes another step and googles OOo.  Google is merely
the 
 tool that allows that person to take that step.  The idea is to take the 
 initial promotion one step away from the computer

 Cheers
 GL   

   
 Benjamin Horst wrote:
 
 Or how about:

 Why OOo? Just google it!

 Google might get annoyed at the use of their name as a verb, since if
 they don't defend it they could eventually lose the trademark.

 But, the text above breaks it up so that users will not confuse OOo as a
 Google project. (Google OOo sounds like Google Maps or all the
 others.)

 -Ben

 On Jan 28, 2009, at 5:44 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:
   
 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:24:49 Ivan M wrote:
 
 Hi Graham,
   
 Hi Ivan,

 
 Just a small suggestion...

 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Graham Lauder
 yori...@openoffice.org
   
 wrote:
 
 Some months back I touted the idea of a Google OOo campaign.  The
 idea
 was to make it very easy and minimal cost for local communities to
 produce simple flyers and posters that give a simple call to
 action.  The
 Google OOo statement would be the central part of the flyers with a
 simple message included.  The messages would be translated into the
 local
 language or messages more appropriate to the local culture.  The key
 is not to explain but to excite curiosity, to reinforce the call to
an
 action.
 
 Because Google brands some of its software with its name - e.g. Google
 Earth - the flyer might appear to be advertising a piece of Google
 software - so people might search for Google OOo expecting something
 from a Google domain. My suggestion would be to have Google OOo, to
 make the intended action more clear.

 ... and the why.OOo page should be updated - at least in terms of
 design - before any major marketing campaign starts (that's not such a
 small suggestion, but since I'm on a roll... :P)

 Regards,
 Ivan.

 -
   
 Good point, perhaps then a colon in the right place

 Google: OOo

 cheers
 G


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FW: [marketing] Computerworld article on OOo

2008-10-21 Thread Savoia Computer Support
Sorry, the url was cut off. Here is the full URL to the Computerworld
article on OpenOffice.org 3.0.

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarti
cleId=9117575

Rick Savoia
Savoia Computer
The Force Field podcast for IT service providers
http://www.theforcefield.net

-Original Message-
From: Savoia Computer Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:41 AM
To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
Subject: RE: [marketing] Computerworld article on OOo

I thought someone in the Marketing Group would be interested in this article
by Eric Lai in which he Michael Croan, Senior Marketing Manager of
Microsoft, provided the reasons why Microsoft Office has greater market
share than OpenOffic.org. I thought it was completely off the mark and
posted a long diatribe providing what I believe is the real reason.

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarti
cleId=9117575

Rick Savoia
Savoia Computer
The Force Field podcast for IT service providers
http://www.theforcefield.net


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RE: [marketing] Computerworld article on OOo

2008-10-21 Thread Savoia Computer Support
I thought someone in the Marketing Group would be interested in this article
by Eric Lai in which he Michael Croan, Senior Marketing Manager of
Microsoft, provided the reasons why Microsoft Office has greater market
share than OpenOffic.org. I thought it was completely off the mark and
posted a long diatribe providing what I believe is the real reason.

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarti
cleId=9117575

Rick Savoia
Savoia Computer
The Force Field podcast for IT service providers
http://www.theforcefield.net


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RE: [marketing] Three million

2008-10-20 Thread Savoia Computer Support
Congratulations!

I wrote an article on my site about it this morning and plan to include it
in the next episode of my podcast.

Rick Savoia
Savoia Computer
The Force Field podcast for IT service providers
http://www.theforcefield.net



-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Horst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:33 AM
To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
Subject: Re: [marketing] Three million

Great news, John, Alex and everyone!

I've referenced your (John's) blog on my own to help spread the  
message further:

http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/893

-Ben

On Oct 20, 2008, at 4:48 AM, Alex Fisher wrote:

 On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:35:29 John McCreesh wrote:
 In the first week since we formally announced the availability of
 OpenOffice.org 3.0, we have recorded an astonishing three million
 downloads on the bouncer logs.

 This is a tribute not only to the developers who have created this  
 great
 product, but to the tens of thousands of people in the community  
 who have
 tested it, translated it, supported it, and told the world about it.

 A week of three million downloads - what a great start to the year  
 of
 three!

 John
 p.s. further data on my blog http://www.mealldubh.org

 Then of course, there's the Bit Torrent downloads, and people like  
 me who go
 directly to a mirror (my ISP has a mirror of OO.o that is only  
 accessible by
 their users) 3 million is probably conservative.



 -- 
 Alex Fisher

 Co-Lead, CD-ROM Project

 OpenOffice.org Marketing
 Community Contact
 Australia/New Zealand


 http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/

Benjamin Horst
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
646-464-2314 (ET)






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RE: [marketing] Site is down?

2008-10-13 Thread Savoia Computer Support
I just tried to access the Ooo 3.0 download page so I could add a link to it
for an article for theforcefield.net about the launch and I am receiving a
404 error. I attempted to access the main OOo site and it is giving me a
forbidden error as well. Is the site down?

Rick Savoia
Savoia Computer
The Force Field podcast and portal for IT service providers
http://www.theforcefield.net




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FW: [marketing] Site is down?

2008-10-13 Thread Savoia Computer Support


-Original Message-
From: Savoia Computer Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:26 AM
To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
Subject: RE: [marketing] Site is down?

I just tried to access the Ooo 3.0 download page so I could add a link to it
for an article for theforcefield.net about the launch and I am receiving a
404 error.

The specific error is as follows: 

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /servlets/ContentHelmNoodle on this
server.
Apache Server at www.openoffice.org Port 80


I attempted to access the main OOo site and it is giving me a
forbidden error as well. Is the site down? If so, could you elaborate on the
nature of the problem and when it is expected to be up again? If I could
have something to post our site so everyone will know what is happening it
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Rick

Rick Savoia
Savoia Computer
The Force Field podcast and portal for IT service providers
http://www.theforcefield.net




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RE: [marketing] Torrents for OOo 3.0

2008-10-13 Thread Savoia Computer Support
Lars, 

If you have a couple of links to mirror sites that are working and can post
them,, I will put them in the article on my site. At the moment I cannot
access the mirrors page either.

Rick

Rick Savoia
Savoia Computer
The Force Field podcast and portal for IT service providers
http://www.theforcefield.net

-Original Message-
From: Lars Noodén [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:47 AM
To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
Subject: [marketing] Torrents for OOo 3.0

The main OOo site seems down.  I can't recall seeing much mention of
mirror sites or torrents.  Perhaps it is time for a quick outreach
campaign to point people to the mirrors and to torrents.  The latter
would be especially helpful in spreading the load.

-Lars

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RE: FW: [marketing] Site is down?

2008-10-13 Thread Savoia Computer Support
John, can you send me an official quote I can use?

Thanks!

Rick
Rick Savoia
 Savoia Computer
 The Force Field podcast and portal for IT service providers
 http://www.theforcefield.net


-Original Message-
From: John McCreesh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:00 AM
To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
Subject: Re: FW: [marketing] Site is down?

On Mon, October 13, 2008 15:37, Jason Komar wrote:
 I get the same issue at the main site. Looks like it is down.

 --
 Jason Komar
 Stormfront Ventures
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Web: www.jbox.ca

 On October 13, 2008 08:33:45 am Savoia Computer Support wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Savoia Computer Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:26 AM
 To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
 Subject: RE: [marketing] Site is down?

 I just tried to access the Ooo 3.0 download page so I could add a link
 to
 it for an article for theforcefield.net about the launch and I am
 receiving
 a 404 error.

 The specific error is as follows:

 Forbidden

 You don't have permission to access /servlets/ContentHelmNoodle on this
 server.
 Apache Server at www.openoffice.org Port 80


 I attempted to access the main OOo site and it is giving me a
 forbidden error as well. Is the site down? If so, could you elaborate on
 the nature of the problem and when it is expected to be up again? If I
 could have something to post our site so everyone will know what is
 happening it would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks!

 Rick

 Rick Savoia
 Savoia Computer
 The Force Field podcast and portal for IT service providers
 http://www.theforcefield.net


Apologies - our servers are struggling to cope with the unprecedented
demand. The technical guys are trying to come up with a solution.

Thank you for your patience

John
-- 
John McCreesh
Marketing Project Lead
OpenOffice.org


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RE: [Marketing] OOo Promo for my podcast

2007-11-15 Thread Savoia Computer Support
So, I guess I'm confused. What is the final copy?

I don't have a problem reading the earlier one written in the first person
because I actually do use OpenOffice.org in lieu of MS Office but I do agree
that it sounds better if it is compared to other office suites in general
instead of a specific suite.

Post the final copy and as long as it is factual and legal and in a positive
tone I will read it on the podcast.

Rick
The Force Field podcast for IT Service Providers
http://www.theforcefield.net



-Original Message-
From: Stefan Weigel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:24 PM
To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
Subject: Re: [Marketing] OOo Promo for my podcast

Alexandro Colorado schrieb:

 That's what happened when engineers talk to marketers. They just talk 
 different languages.

Who do you think is an engineer and who is an marketer in this thread?

;-)

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[Marketing] OOo Promo for my podcast

2007-11-15 Thread Savoia Computer Support
Hi, About a year ago I produced a promo spot for OpenOffice.org for my
podcast, The Force Field. At the time something happened in the Marketing
group that sort of soured me to the idea of promoting it on my own so I
pulled it before it was finished. I did, however, keep the OOo banner link
on my web site.

Now I am willing to give it another try, but I will not produce anything
like what I did before. I will just do a short read during the news and
comment segment of the show. If anyone here is interested, you can send me
three or four lines of copy to read and I will include it in the next
episode. It can be a collaborative effort but it needs to be positive.

HOWEVER, this needs to be a clean, cut and dry promo. I would need it within
the next week or so. If it needs committee approval fine, but no
bureaucratic nonsense, please.

Sorry for that statement, but I've been on this list a long time so I know
how it works sometimes. All I need is a little promo. 

This is a free promo on my podcast with a personal endorsement for OOo. The
podcast is aimed at IT Service Providers, field service technicians and
resellers, most of whom resell, recommend and/or install hardware and
software to end users. To get an idea of what I am referring to you can
listen to an episode of the podcast here
http://www.theforcefield.net/wordpress and the web site is here
http://www.theforcefield.net.

As a community distributor I welcome the opportunity to promote OOo on the
podcast and my site with the support of the community.


Rick Savoia
Savoia Computer
Host of The Force Field podcast for IT Professionals
www.theforcefield.net

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