Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Hi guys just added some other shots about OOo-Extensions. If this is not good enough I guess we can just put the OpenOffice.org extension's logo (the yelow molecular asterisk). On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:23:34 -0600, Alexandro Colorado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:36:44 -0600, Kay Koll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandro, You are totally right, .NET is not the only way to connect to OO.o but .NET is much easier to use as OLE/COM due to the fact that it is a language binding instead of the bridge. Using OLE/COM bridge is not that easy and the code looks a bit ugly but you can compare the .NET language binding with the C++ or Java binding. You had used the term CLI in your original version, which is the underlining byte code language of .NET. The term .NET is better known as CLI. Please do not mix up CLI and OLE/COM both technologies have almost nothing to do with each other. I usually use CLI for Command Line Interface which means pass parameter or data to applications like Firefox through the shell() function. Example shell(firefox, URL, 1). I don't know or promote the use of .NET framework. The way the writing goes sounds like I am enforcing this platform which for the porpousees of this document is fine, but just stating that I never intended to mention. CLI is just another terminology that microsoft hijack. Regards Kay Alexandro Colorado wrote: I check your document and just to clarify something. To connect UNO with OLE and COM you don't necesarily need .NET. Accordin to this post you can make conections with UNO through com using Delphi, Python, C, C++, VisualBasic 6.0, Ruby, TCL, and PHP. http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=9815sid=2b1e42d89efcb283168703cba170598e On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:54:02 -0600, Kay Koll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandro, Excellent document. It was easier for me to add my changes directly in the document. You find the edited document as a new attachment to bug #83739 It is unclear to me why the image on the second page shows Google Docs. Especially the Google Docs Extension is from the Extension development perspective a bad example (Swing Dialogs instead of OO.o dialogs) A logo of the Weblog Publisher might be better due to the fact that this Extension follows the Extension design rules. Regards Kay Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:25:10 -0600, John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 13:17 +, John McCreesh wrote: [snip] Created issue 8379 for this http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83739 I was thinking about this again while walking the dog this afternoon... I guess we have four possible targets for this flyer: (a) entry level hackers who could write and share macros (maybe? have we a repository for these?) (b) intermediate level hackers who could write extensions (c) expert hackers who could contribute to core OOo (d) hackers/systems integrators who could use OOo componentry in their own applications Is this correct? are (a) and / or (d) in scope? does (b) now replace (a)? I included pieces from all 4 markets. From integrators, to core developers, to extension developers and macro developers. We could develop aditional flyers for each of them. (I'm assuming that other contributors - e.g. translators - are out of scope of this particular document, although we do need to market to them too.) We could post it to the native-lang and see if it flies. Why should any of these people want to contribute? I really think projects like code-snippet need a revamp so we can have much more code than what we had there. I was about to mention oooforum since it has a large repository of snippets while codesnippets haven't really pick up as much. Then again I think we should acomodate this emails for the developers to notice. i.e. send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. - OOo is the leading open-source office suite - your code could be used by tens of millions of grateful users tomorrow (including your boyfriend/girlfriend, mum, dad, kids, colleagues...) - Your extensions just look like regular OOo - you can't see the join - OOo allows you to code in your language of choice in addition, for (c) - OOo is a complex system, developed over 20 years, and supported by talented volunteers and professional developers sponsored by some of the most respected names in IT (Sun, IBM, Novell, RedFlag, etc) - Understanding the code is challenging but the community will go to great lengths to support motivated and capable individuals - Getting your code accepted is a testimonial your abilities as a professional software engineer. Do we need to get some of this into the Flyer? John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Alexandro, You are totally right, .NET is not the only way to connect to OO.o but .NET is much easier to use as OLE/COM due to the fact that it is a language binding instead of the bridge. Using OLE/COM bridge is not that easy and the code looks a bit ugly but you can compare the .NET language binding with the C++ or Java binding. You had used the term CLI in your original version, which is the underlining byte code language of .NET. The term .NET is better known as CLI. Please do not mix up CLI and OLE/COM both technologies have almost nothing to do with each other. Regards Kay Alexandro Colorado wrote: I check your document and just to clarify something. To connect UNO with OLE and COM you don't necesarily need .NET. Accordin to this post you can make conections with UNO through com using Delphi, Python, C, C++, VisualBasic 6.0, Ruby, TCL, and PHP. http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=9815sid=2b1e42d89efcb283168703cba170598e On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:54:02 -0600, Kay Koll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandro, Excellent document. It was easier for me to add my changes directly in the document. You find the edited document as a new attachment to bug #83739 It is unclear to me why the image on the second page shows Google Docs. Especially the Google Docs Extension is from the Extension development perspective a bad example (Swing Dialogs instead of OO.o dialogs) A logo of the Weblog Publisher might be better due to the fact that this Extension follows the Extension design rules. Regards Kay Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:25:10 -0600, John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 13:17 +, John McCreesh wrote: [snip] Created issue 8379 for this http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83739 I was thinking about this again while walking the dog this afternoon... I guess we have four possible targets for this flyer: (a) entry level hackers who could write and share macros (maybe? have we a repository for these?) (b) intermediate level hackers who could write extensions (c) expert hackers who could contribute to core OOo (d) hackers/systems integrators who could use OOo componentry in their own applications Is this correct? are (a) and / or (d) in scope? does (b) now replace (a)? I included pieces from all 4 markets. From integrators, to core developers, to extension developers and macro developers. We could develop aditional flyers for each of them. (I'm assuming that other contributors - e.g. translators - are out of scope of this particular document, although we do need to market to them too.) We could post it to the native-lang and see if it flies. Why should any of these people want to contribute? I really think projects like code-snippet need a revamp so we can have much more code than what we had there. I was about to mention oooforum since it has a large repository of snippets while codesnippets haven't really pick up as much. Then again I think we should acomodate this emails for the developers to notice. i.e. send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. - OOo is the leading open-source office suite - your code could be used by tens of millions of grateful users tomorrow (including your boyfriend/girlfriend, mum, dad, kids, colleagues...) - Your extensions just look like regular OOo - you can't see the join - OOo allows you to code in your language of choice in addition, for (c) - OOo is a complex system, developed over 20 years, and supported by talented volunteers and professional developers sponsored by some of the most respected names in IT (Sun, IBM, Novell, RedFlag, etc) - Understanding the code is challenging but the community will go to great lengths to support motivated and capable individuals - Getting your code accepted is a testimonial your abilities as a professional software engineer. Do we need to get some of this into the Flyer? John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:36:44 -0600, Kay Koll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandro, You are totally right, .NET is not the only way to connect to OO.o but .NET is much easier to use as OLE/COM due to the fact that it is a language binding instead of the bridge. Using OLE/COM bridge is not that easy and the code looks a bit ugly but you can compare the .NET language binding with the C++ or Java binding. You had used the term CLI in your original version, which is the underlining byte code language of .NET. The term .NET is better known as CLI. Please do not mix up CLI and OLE/COM both technologies have almost nothing to do with each other. I usually use CLI for Command Line Interface which means pass parameter or data to applications like Firefox through the shell() function. Example shell(firefox, URL, 1). I don't know or promote the use of .NET framework. The way the writing goes sounds like I am enforcing this platform which for the porpousees of this document is fine, but just stating that I never intended to mention. CLI is just another terminology that microsoft hijack. Regards Kay Alexandro Colorado wrote: I check your document and just to clarify something. To connect UNO with OLE and COM you don't necesarily need .NET. Accordin to this post you can make conections with UNO through com using Delphi, Python, C, C++, VisualBasic 6.0, Ruby, TCL, and PHP. http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=9815sid=2b1e42d89efcb283168703cba170598e On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:54:02 -0600, Kay Koll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandro, Excellent document. It was easier for me to add my changes directly in the document. You find the edited document as a new attachment to bug #83739 It is unclear to me why the image on the second page shows Google Docs. Especially the Google Docs Extension is from the Extension development perspective a bad example (Swing Dialogs instead of OO.o dialogs) A logo of the Weblog Publisher might be better due to the fact that this Extension follows the Extension design rules. Regards Kay Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:25:10 -0600, John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 13:17 +, John McCreesh wrote: [snip] Created issue 8379 for this http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83739 I was thinking about this again while walking the dog this afternoon... I guess we have four possible targets for this flyer: (a) entry level hackers who could write and share macros (maybe? have we a repository for these?) (b) intermediate level hackers who could write extensions (c) expert hackers who could contribute to core OOo (d) hackers/systems integrators who could use OOo componentry in their own applications Is this correct? are (a) and / or (d) in scope? does (b) now replace (a)? I included pieces from all 4 markets. From integrators, to core developers, to extension developers and macro developers. We could develop aditional flyers for each of them. (I'm assuming that other contributors - e.g. translators - are out of scope of this particular document, although we do need to market to them too.) We could post it to the native-lang and see if it flies. Why should any of these people want to contribute? I really think projects like code-snippet need a revamp so we can have much more code than what we had there. I was about to mention oooforum since it has a large repository of snippets while codesnippets haven't really pick up as much. Then again I think we should acomodate this emails for the developers to notice. i.e. send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. - OOo is the leading open-source office suite - your code could be used by tens of millions of grateful users tomorrow (including your boyfriend/girlfriend, mum, dad, kids, colleagues...) - Your extensions just look like regular OOo - you can't see the join - OOo allows you to code in your language of choice in addition, for (c) - OOo is a complex system, developed over 20 years, and supported by talented volunteers and professional developers sponsored by some of the most respected names in IT (Sun, IBM, Novell, RedFlag, etc) - Understanding the code is challenging but the community will go to great lengths to support motivated and capable individuals - Getting your code accepted is a testimonial your abilities as a professional software engineer. Do we need to get some of this into the Flyer? John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexandro Colorado Help the Tabasco Relief efforts:
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Alexandro, Excellent document. It was easier for me to add my changes directly in the document. You find the edited document as a new attachment to bug #83739 It is unclear to me why the image on the second page shows Google Docs. Especially the Google Docs Extension is from the Extension development perspective a bad example (Swing Dialogs instead of OO.o dialogs) A logo of the Weblog Publisher might be better due to the fact that this Extension follows the Extension design rules. Regards Kay Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:25:10 -0600, John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 13:17 +, John McCreesh wrote: [snip] Created issue 8379 for this http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83739 I was thinking about this again while walking the dog this afternoon... I guess we have four possible targets for this flyer: (a) entry level hackers who could write and share macros (maybe? have we a repository for these?) (b) intermediate level hackers who could write extensions (c) expert hackers who could contribute to core OOo (d) hackers/systems integrators who could use OOo componentry in their own applications Is this correct? are (a) and / or (d) in scope? does (b) now replace (a)? I included pieces from all 4 markets. From integrators, to core developers, to extension developers and macro developers. We could develop aditional flyers for each of them. (I'm assuming that other contributors - e.g. translators - are out of scope of this particular document, although we do need to market to them too.) We could post it to the native-lang and see if it flies. Why should any of these people want to contribute? I really think projects like code-snippet need a revamp so we can have much more code than what we had there. I was about to mention oooforum since it has a large repository of snippets while codesnippets haven't really pick up as much. Then again I think we should acomodate this emails for the developers to notice. i.e. send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. - OOo is the leading open-source office suite - your code could be used by tens of millions of grateful users tomorrow (including your boyfriend/girlfriend, mum, dad, kids, colleagues...) - Your extensions just look like regular OOo - you can't see the join - OOo allows you to code in your language of choice in addition, for (c) - OOo is a complex system, developed over 20 years, and supported by talented volunteers and professional developers sponsored by some of the most respected names in IT (Sun, IBM, Novell, RedFlag, etc) - Understanding the code is challenging but the community will go to great lengths to support motivated and capable individuals - Getting your code accepted is a testimonial your abilities as a professional software engineer. Do we need to get some of this into the Flyer? John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:54:02 -0600, Kay Koll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandro, Excellent document. It was easier for me to add my changes directly in the document. You find the edited document as a new attachment to bug #83739 It is unclear to me why the image on the second page shows Google Docs. Especially the Google Docs Extension is from the Extension development perspective a bad example (Swing Dialogs instead of OO.o dialogs) A logo of the Weblog Publisher might be better due to the fact that this Extension follows the Extension design rules. Well is an example of how extensions enable you to interact with different systems. This flyer doesn't go into showing how to build extensions, yet for the porpouses of metioning systems on which OOo can talk to. I see Google Docs a more powerful brand and representation than for example the weblog publisher. I agree with you that someone should update that Gdoc extension and use OOo's native toolkit. Regards Kay Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:25:10 -0600, John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 13:17 +, John McCreesh wrote: [snip] Created issue 8379 for this http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83739 I was thinking about this again while walking the dog this afternoon... I guess we have four possible targets for this flyer: (a) entry level hackers who could write and share macros (maybe? have we a repository for these?) (b) intermediate level hackers who could write extensions (c) expert hackers who could contribute to core OOo (d) hackers/systems integrators who could use OOo componentry in their own applications Is this correct? are (a) and / or (d) in scope? does (b) now replace (a)? I included pieces from all 4 markets. From integrators, to core developers, to extension developers and macro developers. We could develop aditional flyers for each of them. (I'm assuming that other contributors - e.g. translators - are out of scope of this particular document, although we do need to market to them too.) We could post it to the native-lang and see if it flies. Why should any of these people want to contribute? I really think projects like code-snippet need a revamp so we can have much more code than what we had there. I was about to mention oooforum since it has a large repository of snippets while codesnippets haven't really pick up as much. Then again I think we should acomodate this emails for the developers to notice. i.e. send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. - OOo is the leading open-source office suite - your code could be used by tens of millions of grateful users tomorrow (including your boyfriend/girlfriend, mum, dad, kids, colleagues...) - Your extensions just look like regular OOo - you can't see the join - OOo allows you to code in your language of choice in addition, for (c) - OOo is a complex system, developed over 20 years, and supported by talented volunteers and professional developers sponsored by some of the most respected names in IT (Sun, IBM, Novell, RedFlag, etc) - Understanding the code is challenging but the community will go to great lengths to support motivated and capable individuals - Getting your code accepted is a testimonial your abilities as a professional software engineer. Do we need to get some of this into the Flyer? John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexandro Colorado Help the Tabasco Relief efforts: http://rootcoffee.blogspot.com/2007/11/race-to-save-mexico-flood-victims.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
I check your document and just to clarify something. To connect UNO with OLE and COM you don't necesarily need .NET. Accordin to this post you can make conections with UNO through com using Delphi, Python, C, C++, VisualBasic 6.0, Ruby, TCL, and PHP. http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=9815sid=2b1e42d89efcb283168703cba170598e On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:54:02 -0600, Kay Koll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandro, Excellent document. It was easier for me to add my changes directly in the document. You find the edited document as a new attachment to bug #83739 It is unclear to me why the image on the second page shows Google Docs. Especially the Google Docs Extension is from the Extension development perspective a bad example (Swing Dialogs instead of OO.o dialogs) A logo of the Weblog Publisher might be better due to the fact that this Extension follows the Extension design rules. Regards Kay Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:25:10 -0600, John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 13:17 +, John McCreesh wrote: [snip] Created issue 8379 for this http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83739 I was thinking about this again while walking the dog this afternoon... I guess we have four possible targets for this flyer: (a) entry level hackers who could write and share macros (maybe? have we a repository for these?) (b) intermediate level hackers who could write extensions (c) expert hackers who could contribute to core OOo (d) hackers/systems integrators who could use OOo componentry in their own applications Is this correct? are (a) and / or (d) in scope? does (b) now replace (a)? I included pieces from all 4 markets. From integrators, to core developers, to extension developers and macro developers. We could develop aditional flyers for each of them. (I'm assuming that other contributors - e.g. translators - are out of scope of this particular document, although we do need to market to them too.) We could post it to the native-lang and see if it flies. Why should any of these people want to contribute? I really think projects like code-snippet need a revamp so we can have much more code than what we had there. I was about to mention oooforum since it has a large repository of snippets while codesnippets haven't really pick up as much. Then again I think we should acomodate this emails for the developers to notice. i.e. send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. - OOo is the leading open-source office suite - your code could be used by tens of millions of grateful users tomorrow (including your boyfriend/girlfriend, mum, dad, kids, colleagues...) - Your extensions just look like regular OOo - you can't see the join - OOo allows you to code in your language of choice in addition, for (c) - OOo is a complex system, developed over 20 years, and supported by talented volunteers and professional developers sponsored by some of the most respected names in IT (Sun, IBM, Novell, RedFlag, etc) - Understanding the code is challenging but the community will go to great lengths to support motivated and capable individuals - Getting your code accepted is a testimonial your abilities as a professional software engineer. Do we need to get some of this into the Flyer? John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexandro Colorado Help the Tabasco Relief efforts: http://rootcoffee.blogspot.com/2007/11/race-to-save-mexico-flood-victims.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Quoting John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 15:09 +0100, sophie wrote: Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? Here is a draft, developers, feel free to comment/contribute: http://jza.homelinux.net/DevFlyer.odg http://jza.homelinux.net/DevFlyer.pdf cool, i like the idea of a developer oriented flyer. We can use it for any public event. It gives some details that are interested not only for developers but also for decision makers. It highlights that OO.org is more than an office suite and that can of course help to promote it further. As soon as i have time i will summarize some important interfaces from a programmability perspective that we can maybe use in the flyer as well. Juergen I don't think it exists I'm thinking of something highlighting the extension project, the ODF Toolkit project, scripting languages and may be some dev tools too ? Do developers read flyers? Happy to get involved... John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:34:42 -0600, Louis Suarez-Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please! And can I urge that this is high priority? In education, for students who would want to work on developing it, simple pointers, basic information, all these are useful. As we are promoting OOo more among students and professors, the importance of this escalates. Can you elaborate what you expect to see on an education flyer for the software? Do you have any samples on which to base on? -- Alexandro Colorado Help the Tabasco Relief efforts: http://rootcoffee.blogspot.com/2007/11/race-to-save-mexico-flood-victims.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:48:00 -0600, Juergen Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: As soon as i have time i will summarize some important interfaces from a programmability perspective that we can maybe use in the flyer as well. Sounds great, can you please validate the information that currently is there. I didn't want to either get too technical explaining things but I guess I was too bland having too much 'soft talk'. Juergen I don't think it exists I'm thinking of something highlighting the extension project, the ODF Toolkit project, scripting languages and may be some dev tools too ? Do developers read flyers? Happy to get involved... John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexandro Colorado Help the Tabasco Relief efforts: http://rootcoffee.blogspot.com/2007/11/race-to-save-mexico-flood-victims.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 22:55 -0600, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:19:45 -0600, sophie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Quoting John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 15:09 +0100, sophie wrote: Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? Here is a draft, developers, feel free to comment/contribute: http://jza.homelinux.net/DevFlyer.odg http://jza.homelinux.net/DevFlyer.pdf Thanks a lot, it's really great ! Would it be possible that we add a part on the extension project and another one on the ODF Toolkit ? May be it could be the back of your first page ? I think the extension project would be very attractive on the flyer. Hi Sophie you can check the new versions of the flyer I added some projects, I didn't include ODF Toolkit because I dont know enough of the project to explain it. I did assist to a couple of lectures in Barcelona related to ODF Toolkit but I believe most of the development really is on the OpenDocumentFellowship side. Created issue 8379 for this http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83739 John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 13:17 +, John McCreesh wrote: [snip] Created issue 8379 for this http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83739 I was thinking about this again while walking the dog this afternoon... I guess we have four possible targets for this flyer: (a) entry level hackers who could write and share macros (maybe? have we a repository for these?) (b) intermediate level hackers who could write extensions (c) expert hackers who could contribute to core OOo (d) hackers/systems integrators who could use OOo componentry in their own applications Is this correct? are (a) and / or (d) in scope? does (b) now replace (a)? (I'm assuming that other contributors - e.g. translators - are out of scope of this particular document, although we do need to market to them too.) Why should any of these people want to contribute? - OOo is the leading open-source office suite - your code could be used by tens of millions of grateful users tomorrow (including your boyfriend/girlfriend, mum, dad, kids, colleagues...) - Your extensions just look like regular OOo - you can't see the join - OOo allows you to code in your language of choice in addition, for (c) - OOo is a complex system, developed over 20 years, and supported by talented volunteers and professional developers sponsored by some of the most respected names in IT (Sun, IBM, Novell, RedFlag, etc) - Understanding the code is challenging but the community will go to great lengths to support motivated and capable individuals - Getting your code accepted is a testimonial your abilities as a professional software engineer. Do we need to get some of this into the Flyer? John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:25:10 -0600, John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 13:17 +, John McCreesh wrote: [snip] Created issue 8379 for this http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83739 I was thinking about this again while walking the dog this afternoon... I guess we have four possible targets for this flyer: (a) entry level hackers who could write and share macros (maybe? have we a repository for these?) (b) intermediate level hackers who could write extensions (c) expert hackers who could contribute to core OOo (d) hackers/systems integrators who could use OOo componentry in their own applications Is this correct? are (a) and / or (d) in scope? does (b) now replace (a)? I included pieces from all 4 markets. From integrators, to core developers, to extension developers and macro developers. We could develop aditional flyers for each of them. (I'm assuming that other contributors - e.g. translators - are out of scope of this particular document, although we do need to market to them too.) We could post it to the native-lang and see if it flies. Why should any of these people want to contribute? I really think projects like code-snippet need a revamp so we can have much more code than what we had there. I was about to mention oooforum since it has a large repository of snippets while codesnippets haven't really pick up as much. Then again I think we should acomodate this emails for the developers to notice. i.e. send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. - OOo is the leading open-source office suite - your code could be used by tens of millions of grateful users tomorrow (including your boyfriend/girlfriend, mum, dad, kids, colleagues...) - Your extensions just look like regular OOo - you can't see the join - OOo allows you to code in your language of choice in addition, for (c) - OOo is a complex system, developed over 20 years, and supported by talented volunteers and professional developers sponsored by some of the most respected names in IT (Sun, IBM, Novell, RedFlag, etc) - Understanding the code is challenging but the community will go to great lengths to support motivated and capable individuals - Getting your code accepted is a testimonial your abilities as a professional software engineer. Do we need to get some of this into the Flyer? John -- Alexandro Colorado Help the Tabasco Relief efforts: http://rootcoffee.blogspot.com/2007/11/race-to-save-mexico-flood-victims.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Hi On 2007-11-18, at 17:30 , Alexandro Colorado wrote: I included pieces from all 4 markets. From integrators, to core developers, to extension developers and macro developers. We could develop aditional flyers for each of them. (I'm assuming that other contributors - e.g. translators - are out of scope of this particular document, although we do need to market to them too.) We could post it to the native-lang and see if it flies. Why should any of these people want to contribute? I really think projects like code-snippet need a revamp so we can have much more code than what we had there. I was about to mention oooforum since it has a large repository of snippets while codesnippets haven't really pick up as much. Then again I think we should acomodate this emails for the developers to notice. i.e. send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. Thanks! I will certainly use it and do think that widely posting this is important. I'll use it at the upcoming foss.in, if possible! BTW, we are also interested in promoting OOo in education, among students and professors, and a datasheet (flyer?) that does what this one does (while also promoting use) geared for students is very much desired. I can get funds to print them up, too, and am hoping to distribue it at foss.in. Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Quoting John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 15:09 +0100, sophie wrote: Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? Here is a draft, developers, feel free to comment/contribute: http://jza.homelinux.net/DevFlyer.odg http://jza.homelinux.net/DevFlyer.pdf Thanks a lot, it's really great ! Would it be possible that we add a part on the extension project and another one on the ODF Toolkit ? May be it could be the back of your first page ? I think the extension project would be very attractive on the flyer. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:19:45 -0600, sophie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Quoting John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 15:09 +0100, sophie wrote: Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? Here is a draft, developers, feel free to comment/contribute: http://jza.homelinux.net/DevFlyer.odg http://jza.homelinux.net/DevFlyer.pdf Thanks a lot, it's really great ! Would it be possible that we add a part on the extension project and another one on the ODF Toolkit ? May be it could be the back of your first page ? I think the extension project would be very attractive on the flyer. Hi Sophie you can check the new versions of the flyer I added some projects, I didn't include ODF Toolkit because I dont know enough of the project to explain it. I did assist to a couple of lectures in Barcelona related to ODF Toolkit but I believe most of the development really is on the OpenDocumentFellowship side. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexandro Colorado Help the Tabasco Relief efforts: http://rootcoffee.blogspot.com/2007/11/race-to-save-mexico-flood-victims.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Hi Sophie, Great idea! Actually I had a similar idea just the other day because I think it's time to recruit more developers and ISV's. However, I doubt that we already have such a flyer. Maybe we even want to create a white paper. I definitely would like to work together with you on such a document! All the best, Erwin sophie wrote: Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? I'm thinking of something highlighting the extension project, the ODF Toolkit project, scripting languages and may be some dev tools too ? Thanks in advance for your help Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? I'm thinking of something highlighting the extension project, the ODF Toolkit project, scripting languages and may be some dev tools too ? Thanks in advance for your help Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Quoting John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 15:09 +0100, sophie wrote: Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? I don't think it exists I'm thinking of something highlighting the extension project, the ODF Toolkit project, scripting languages and may be some dev tools too ? Do developers read flyers? I can have one monday no problem. I already have some slideshows on the topic. I have a more general version here: http://www.slideshare.net/jza/openofficeorg-my-community/ Happy to get involved... John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Hi John, John McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 15:09 +0100, sophie wrote: Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? I don't think it exists ok I'm thinking of something highlighting the extension project, the ODF Toolkit project, scripting languages and may be some dev tools too ? Do developers read flyers? Why not ? if it's sexy for them ;) Happy to get involved... thanks. However, I'm not the one who will be able to begin, you've always been the one who knows :) Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 15:09 +0100, sophie wrote: Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? I don't think it exists I'm thinking of something highlighting the extension project, the ODF Toolkit project, scripting languages and may be some dev tools too ? Do developers read flyers? Happy to get involved... John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer
Quoting John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 15:09 +0100, sophie wrote: Hi all, Would it be possible to design a developer oriented Flyer or does it already exist? Here is a draft, developers, feel free to comment/contribute: http://jza.homelinux.net/DevFlyer.odg http://jza.homelinux.net/DevFlyer.pdf I don't think it exists I'm thinking of something highlighting the extension project, the ODF Toolkit project, scripting languages and may be some dev tools too ? Do developers read flyers? Happy to get involved... John -- John McCreesh Marketing Project Lead OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
