Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Hello Roman, On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 16:58, Roman Gelbort wrote: > El 19/10/10 16:11, Ariel Constenla-Haile escribió: > > I wonder how you plan to work on marketing, managing founds, etc for OOo > > and LO at the same time, considering you see no COI at all... > > wow... and now you attacked me! I only answered you. It was *you* who came here pointing to what you see as a personal conflict between me and Alexandro (besides giving no arguments at all about this) > (is my last mail arround this issue) Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
El 19/10/10 16:11, Ariel Constenla-Haile escribió: > I wonder how you plan to work on marketing, managing founds, etc for OOo and > LO at the same time, considering you see no COI at all... > wow... and now you attacked me! And if both started to work... this is NOT good for de comunity. (is my last mail arround this issue) -- ~~~ Prof. Román H. Gelbort http://www.piensalibre.com.ar Por 10 años con una oficina Open... desde ahora también LIBRE ~~~ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Hello Roman, On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 15:55, Roman Gelbort wrote: > > indeed "funny" answer. > > > > One could have expected a statement from your part, clarifying why you do > > not see any COI at all, or why you think my arguments are not valid. > > > > Regards > > Ariel. > > Your response is about a personal conflict with Alexandro. First in the > ES lists and now you come here your conflict. I was expecting this, please read http://native-lang.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=9352 anyway, I wasn't expecting this from *you*, in *this* list; aren't you know in LO marketing? http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/msg01743.html I am surprised how you people no see any COI at all. > I think that you must be resolve this problem in private with Alexandro. > But not include another people. > > This is a sensible time, spanish comunity is not asking for answers, you > are asking for asnwers. please read the whole thread in the OOo ES mailing list, it's not only me finding our Project's Co-Lead very inappropriate. Most of the discussion there in the last 15 days has been about this issue http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=users&from=2010-10-01&to=2010-10-31&count=93&by=date&first=1&windowSize=1000 > Please... make a comunity among all. You are taking part of the process that splits the OOo community. I wonder how you plan to work on marketing, managing founds, etc for OOo and LO at the same time, considering you see no COI at all... But yes, this discussions does not belong *here*. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
> indeed "funny" answer. > > One could have expected a statement from your part, clarifying why you do not > see any COI at all, or why you think my arguments are not valid. > > Regards > Ariel. Your response is about a personal conflict with Alexandro. First in the ES lists and now you come here your conflict. I think that you must be resolve this problem in private with Alexandro. But not include another people. This is a sensible time, spanish comunity is not asking for answers, you are asking for asnwers. Please... make a comunity among all. -- ~~~ Prof. Román H. Gelbort http://www.piensalibre.com.ar Por 10 años con una oficina Open... desde ahora también LIBRE ~~~ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 13:02, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >>> So, again, 300 USD for attending the ELinux event, for you. Correct? > >>> As > >>> > far as I know, there have been no veto, so: > > I would like to revoke my approval until accusations brought up against > > Alexandro by a member of the OOoES community have been clarified, please > > refer: > > http://native-lang.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=9347 > > > > Alexandro, can you please comment ASAP. > > > > Best regards, > > Peter > > Sure I wont need the budget anymore since the event was canceled due to > lack of budget on their part. indeed "funny" answer. One could have expected a statement from your part, clarifying why you do not see any COI at all, or why you think my arguments are not valid. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Peter Junge wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > Peter Junge wrote: > >> Cor Nouws wrote: >> >>> Florian Effenberger wrote (12-10-10 12:59) >>> >>> So, again, 300 USD for attending the ELinux event, for you. Correct? As far as I know, there have been no veto, so: Italo, Cor, Peter, can you authorize that? >>> >>> +1 >>> Cor >>> >>> +1 >> > > I would like to revoke my approval until accusations brought up against > Alexandro by a member of the OOoES community have been clarified, please > refer: > http://native-lang.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=9347 > > Alexandro, can you please comment ASAP. > > Best regards, > Peter > > Sure I wont need the budget anymore since the event was canceled due to lack of budget on their part. -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Hi everyone, Peter Junge wrote: Cor Nouws wrote: Florian Effenberger wrote (12-10-10 12:59) So, again, 300 USD for attending the ELinux event, for you. Correct? As far as I know, there have been no veto, so: Italo, Cor, Peter, can you authorize that? +1 Cor +1 I would like to revoke my approval until accusations brought up against Alexandro by a member of the OOoES community have been clarified, please refer: http://native-lang.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=9347 Alexandro, can you please comment ASAP. Best regards, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Cor Nouws wrote: Florian Effenberger wrote (12-10-10 12:59) So, again, 300 USD for attending the ELinux event, for you. Correct? As far as I know, there have been no veto, so: Italo, Cor, Peter, can you authorize that? +1 Cor +1 Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Florian Effenberger wrote (12-10-10 12:59) So, again, 300 USD for attending the ELinux event, for you. Correct? As far as I know, there have been no veto, so: Italo, Cor, Peter, can you authorize that? +1 Cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - - ideas/remarks for the community council? See http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-10-12 04.13: Hi Florian, any update on this? oh, sorry - seems I missed it. So, again, 300 USD for attending the ELinux event, for you. Correct? As far as I know, there have been no veto, so: Italo, Cor, Peter, can you authorize that? Thanks, Florian -- Florian Effenberger OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi Alexandro, > > Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-23 08.53: > > > So initially the plan was to have the lead of OOoES and the Marcon of >> Argentina on the event. So the organization put money for the flights and >> we >> would request for stance. However after an update meeting they seem to not >> have enough money for both. So the request for 'hotel' went from 500 to >> just >> 300 dls (since it will only be one person staying). >> Yes the 300 dls, is for 3-4 days of hotel. >> >>> >>> Do you give a talk or do you just attend? >>> >> >> Yes I will be giving a keynote. >> > > thanks a lot for the clarification, this sounds good to me! If there are no > objections on the list, I'll try to start the process on Sunday or so. Hi Florian, any update on this? > > > Florian > > -- > Florian Effenberger > OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead > Tel: +49 8341 99660880 > Fax: +49 8341 99660889 > Mobile: +49 151 14424108 > Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > > -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-23 08.53: So initially the plan was to have the lead of OOoES and the Marcon of Argentina on the event. So the organization put money for the flights and we would request for stance. However after an update meeting they seem to not have enough money for both. So the request for 'hotel' went from 500 to just 300 dls (since it will only be one person staying). Yes the 300 dls, is for 3-4 days of hotel. Do you give a talk or do you just attend? Yes I will be giving a keynote. thanks a lot for the clarification, this sounds good to me! If there are no objections on the list, I'll try to start the process on Sunday or so. Florian -- Florian Effenberger OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-23 05.46: > > originally it was 2 of us who would be flying, to chile, but at the end >> they >> could only pay for one of us. >> > > ok, so to sum it up: > You request 500 USD, approx. 300 USD are for the hotel, the rest is for the > trip. > Correct so far? > So initially the plan was to have the lead of OOoES and the Marcon of Argentina on the event. So the organization put money for the flights and we would request for stance. However after an update meeting they seem to not have enough money for both. So the request for 'hotel' went from 500 to just 300 dls (since it will only be one person staying). Yes the 300 dls, is for 3-4 days of hotel. > > Do you give a talk or do you just attend? > Yes I will be giving a keynote. > > Sorry, seems I lost the plot a bit and want to catch it again ;) > > > Florian > > -- > Florian Effenberger > OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead > Tel: +49 8341 99660880 > Fax: +49 8341 99660889 > Mobile: +49 151 14424108 > Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > > -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Hi, Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-23 05.46: originally it was 2 of us who would be flying, to chile, but at the end they could only pay for one of us. ok, so to sum it up: You request 500 USD, approx. 300 USD are for the hotel, the rest is for the trip. Correct so far? Do you give a talk or do you just attend? Sorry, seems I lost the plot a bit and want to catch it again ;) Florian -- Florian Effenberger OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-23 01.46: > > > did I get it right, that you have been invited by the ELinux organizers to >>> speak about OOo? Will there be other activities? As well I do not really >>> get >>> which cost we will have to fund. Travel? Hotel? >>> >> >> Hotel primarily >> > > you need 500 USD for a hotel?! Where the hell do you stay? originally it was 2 of us who would be flying, to chile, but at the end they could only pay for one of us. > > > Florian > > -- > Florian Effenberger > OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead > Tel: +49 8341 99660880 > Fax: +49 8341 99660889 > Mobile: +49 151 14424108 > Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > > -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-23 01.46: > > > did I get it right, that you have been invited by the ELinux organizers to >>> speak about OOo? Will there be other activities? As well I do not really >>> get >>> which cost we will have to fund. Travel? Hotel? >>> >> >> Hotel primarily >> > > you need 500 USD for a hotel?! Where the hell do you stay? I think I said 300 USD for a hotel. It wont be 1 day either. > > > Florian > > -- > Florian Effenberger > OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead > Tel: +49 8341 99660880 > Fax: +49 8341 99660889 > Mobile: +49 151 14424108 > Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > > -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Hi, Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-23 01.46: did I get it right, that you have been invited by the ELinux organizers to speak about OOo? Will there be other activities? As well I do not really get which cost we will have to fund. Travel? Hotel? Hotel primarily you need 500 USD for a hotel?! Where the hell do you stay? Florian -- Florian Effenberger OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Peter Junge wrote: > Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Florian Effenberger >> wrote: >> >> Hi Alexandro, >>> >>> Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-10 17.51: >>> >>> FLOSS technologies there. They will be able to put the traveling costs >>> but they asked OOo if we can hold the rest of the expenses, traveling being the highest expense. how much funding do you need probably? >>> >>> >> >> Sorry needed to update on the status, I am requesting 500 dls for the >> budget >> on the event. This will cover my stance during the event. >> Regards. >> > > Hi Alexandro, > did I get it right, that you have been invited by the ELinux organizers to > speak about OOo? Will there be other activities? As well I do not really get > which cost we will have to fund. Travel? Hotel? > Hotel primarily > > Best regards, > Peter > > > >> >> Florian >>> >>> -- >>> Florian Effenberger >>> OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead >>> Tel: +49 8341 99660880 >>> Fax: +49 8341 99660889 >>> Mobile: +49 151 14424108 >>> Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > > -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi Alexandro, > > Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-16 02.36: > > The expenses of the trip, the organization is going to 'help' us with some >> of the expenses. The conference is a 4 day event so I assume there will be >> other activities. But speaking with them they will get one of us after >> all. >> > > do you have any other means of funding? As far as I know, your > nonprofit/native-lang project also collects donations, so I'd just like to > know how the funding situation is on that side. I need the budget > > > Florian > > -- > Florian Effenberger > OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead > Tel: +49 8341 99660880 > Fax: +49 8341 99660889 > Mobile: +49 151 14424108 > Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > > -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-16 02.36: The expenses of the trip, the organization is going to 'help' us with some of the expenses. The conference is a 4 day event so I assume there will be other activities. But speaking with them they will get one of us after all. do you have any other means of funding? As far as I know, your nonprofit/native-lang project also collects donations, so I'd just like to know how the funding situation is on that side. Florian -- Florian Effenberger OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Peter Junge wrote: > Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Florian Effenberger >> wrote: >> >> Hi Alexandro, >>> >>> Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-10 17.51: >>> >>> FLOSS technologies there. They will be able to put the traveling costs >>> but they asked OOo if we can hold the rest of the expenses, traveling being the highest expense. how much funding do you need probably? >>> >>> >> >> Sorry needed to update on the status, I am requesting 500 dls for the >> budget >> on the event. This will cover my stance during the event. >> Regards. >> > > Hi Alexandro, > did I get it right, that you have been invited by the ELinux organizers to > speak about OOo? Will there be other activities? As well I do not really get > which cost we will have to fund. Travel? Hotel? The expenses of the trip, the organization is going to 'help' us with some of the expenses. The conference is a 4 day event so I assume there will be other activities. But speaking with them they will get one of us after all. > > Best regards, > Peter > > > >> >> Florian >>> >>> -- >>> Florian Effenberger >>> OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead >>> Tel: +49 8341 99660880 >>> Fax: +49 8341 99660889 >>> Mobile: +49 151 14424108 >>> Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > > -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-10 17.51: FLOSS technologies there. They will be able to put the traveling costs but they asked OOo if we can hold the rest of the expenses, traveling being the highest expense. how much funding do you need probably? Sorry needed to update on the status, I am requesting 500 dls for the budget on the event. This will cover my stance during the event. Regards. Hi Alexandro, did I get it right, that you have been invited by the ELinux organizers to speak about OOo? Will there be other activities? As well I do not really get which cost we will have to fund. Travel? Hotel? Best regards, Peter Florian -- Florian Effenberger OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi Alexandro, > > Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-10 17.51: > > FLOSS technologies there. They will be able to put the traveling costs >> but they asked OOo if we can hold the rest of the expenses, traveling >> being the highest expense. >> > > how much funding do you need probably? > Sorry needed to update on the status, I am requesting 500 dls for the budget on the event. This will cover my stance during the event. Regards. > > Florian > > -- > Florian Effenberger > OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead > Tel: +49 8341 99660880 > Fax: +49 8341 99660889 > Mobile: +49 151 14424108 > Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org > > -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-09-10 17.51: FLOSS technologies there. They will be able to put the traveling costs but they asked OOo if we can hold the rest of the expenses, traveling being the highest expense. how much funding do you need probably? Florian -- Florian Effenberger OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Lead Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Budget for ELinux event in Chile
I have been invited by the organizers of ELinux this year in Chile, the organization is trying to get the speakers to the event but their budget is limited. ELinux is the most visible FLOSS event in Chile and this year is special because it seems to be a growing adoption of FLOSS technologies there. They will be able to put the traveling costs but they asked OOo if we can hold the rest of the expenses, traveling being the highest expense. We are still not sure if also the Marcon Lead from Argentina, Roman Gelbort can join us for the event, but I think is key we can gather up in Chile for OOoES development. I am also adding the letter from the event orgnanizers inviting us to participate: https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=1tNDipGRJJOFd7jc2QBP-Vy6Iczo5zedfMYBxQMgJIQJ2LuhIHRScsyuivqX-&hl=en -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
