Re: [marketing] OOo 5.0: Some ideas

2010-09-11 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello everyone,

my presentation will soon be posted on the website.
Thank you for your interest!

Best,
Charles. 



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Re: [marketing] OOo 5.0: Some ideas

2010-09-11 Thread Peter Junge

Hi Charles, *,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Hello everyone,

my presentation will soon be posted on the website.
Thank you for your interest!


it already is online. Just follow the links (ODF | PDF) at the bottom of 
the abstract page:

http://www.ooocon.org/index.php/ooocon/2010/paper/view/171

best regards,
Peter

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Re: [marketing] OOo 5.0: Some ideas

2010-09-11 Thread luiz
Hi All,

 Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 my presentation will soon be posted on the website.
 Thank you for your interest!
 
 it already is online. Just follow the links (ODF | PDF) at the bottom of
 the abstract page:
 http://www.ooocon.org/index.php/ooocon/2010/paper/view/171


I have the file (odp) and summary of your presentation at OOoCon, but I
wanted something in-depth, can be?

Regards,

Luiz Oliveira

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Re: [marketing] OOo 5.0: Some ideas

2010-09-11 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Ian ian.ly...@theingots.org wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 13:26 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:17 PM,  ian.ly...@theingots.org wrote:
  On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:38 PM, luiz luizh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Charles,
 
  Can you write some words about your lecture on OOo 5.0 Ideas?
  Our objective is to publish them on special edition of BrOffice.org
  Magazine. The deadline is 19/09.
 
  I was during the event and aside from what Charles can comment on
  this. The conversation basically went to think ahead on the way people
  use OOo. To not think in few 'catch up' features for OOo but to
  actually innovate and have a PDF moment comparing to the year OOo
  integrated the export to PDF in OOo. We need to do things that the
  competition haven't thought about doing instead of just following
  trends.
 
  The future is mobile computing and seamless web integration. OOo lite to
  run on Android handsets would be a killer, especially if it also enabled
  seamless publishing of HTML5 documents.

 Somehow I am not sold on that idea. I have an N900 which is arguably
 the best phone out there in the market. It has a phisical keybard and
 a digital one touch keyboard. I run an application called MaStory
 (http://maemo-wordpy.garage.maemo.org ). Beautiful app with lots of
 support for high level formating to do your blog. Is the closest you
 will get for a word processor. It supports Media, image editors, tags,
 categories metadata, links. Even configure the time and date of the
 post to go live. To a degree it holds almost the same amount of
 features of OOo Writer.

 I have a Samsung Galaxy S Android with ThinkFree office. (There is a
 missed opportunity.) If I plug it into a monitor and a keyboard I don't
 think I would notice much difference to using my netbook which has OOo
 on it for 99% of what I do (Possibly 100%)

 However that said, is PAINFULL to blog on the N900. I will never write
 more than a few lines, and havent even been keen into managing media
 inside the document. The keyboard on the N900 is pretty good, maybe a
 bit small, but also have talked with Blackberry users that use a blog
 client and they also agree that they will never do a blog with more
 than 1 paragraph from their blackberry.

 Think a bit laterally. You really don't need to limit the device to its
 current physical size limitations. With i-pads etc there is going to be
 a massive wave of spin-off devices based on phone technology and this is
 certainly going to encroach into the traditional laptop space if not
 displace it altogether. Connecting a keyboard and HDTV is trivially
 simple.

ok yes changing the hardware does come through as any other computer
OS. This is the similar idea from the NeoRunner (OpenMoko) thing that
maddog want's to do on using the mobile as a CPU of a larger device.

Now the next step is how to make OOo run within a mobile OS, if we
take Android, IOS, Windows Mobile and Meego as the standard
smartphones OS (Blackberry and Symbian are not included).

We can see that software-wise OOo only have a chance in Meego without
needing to be re-written. Android Java utilities makes us recode OOo
(which is 15 M lines of code to Java), or Objective-C in case of IOS.

An alternative like the OOo-Net could work where we just develop the
interface separated from the OOo engine. That way we can have
interfaces develop on the native toolkit for most of the things around
supported.


 The demand from a word processor usually involves a multipage
 document, that I think will never work from within a mobile phone at
 least with the current hardware.

 Duhh...plug it into a bigger screen and keyboard :-)

 Take a netbook case with screen and keyboard and battery. Plug in your
 phone and you have both a netbook and a charging station for your phone.
 It's only a matter of time. Let's skate to where the puck is going to be
 not where it is now.

 BTW, I have now agreement for endorsement from the UK Sector skills
 Council for an accredited certification of OOo. next step is to go
 through the Ofqual accreditation procedure but they are just changing
 the IT system so that might take a few weeks. Let's plan on getting it
 done for 1st January 2011.

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[marketing] OOo 5.0: Some ideas

2010-09-10 Thread luiz
Hi Charles,

Can you write some words about your lecture on OOo 5.0 Ideas?
Our objective is to publish them on special edition of BrOffice.org
Magazine. The deadline is 19/09.



Best Regards,


Luiz Oliveira

PS: We have the file (odp) and summary of your presentation at OOoCon

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Re: [marketing] OOo 5.0: Some ideas

2010-09-10 Thread ian . lynch
 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:38 PM, luiz luizh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Charles,

 Can you write some words about your lecture on OOo 5.0 Ideas?
 Our objective is to publish them on special edition of BrOffice.org
 Magazine. The deadline is 19/09.

 I was during the event and aside from what Charles can comment on
 this. The conversation basically went to think ahead on the way people
 use OOo. To not think in few 'catch up' features for OOo but to
 actually innovate and have a PDF moment comparing to the year OOo
 integrated the export to PDF in OOo. We need to do things that the
 competition haven't thought about doing instead of just following
 trends.

The future is mobile computing and seamless web integration. OOo lite to
run on Android handsets would be a killer, especially if it also enabled
seamless publishing of HTML5 documents.

 He did mentioned areas of innovation like mobile, cloud (but a
 different cloud), focus on the integration and also talk about how we
 can rethink some of the components like OpenOffice.org Web which is a
 dead module. Change from an HTML editor and think more of a
 information processor, including authoring of things that you use in
 web like Blogs, etc.

 There was some input from Lars and Dimitri (I think) as well at the
 end of the presentation.



 Best Regards,


 Luiz Oliveira

 PS: We have the file (odp) and summary of your presentation at OOoCon

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Re: [marketing] OOo 5.0: Some ideas

2010-09-10 Thread Andy Brown

luiz wrote:

Hi Charles,

Can you write some words about your lecture on OOo 5.0 Ideas?
Our objective is to publish them on special edition of BrOffice.org
Magazine. The deadline is 19/09.



Best Regards,


Luiz Oliveira

PS: We have the file (odp) and summary of your presentation at OOoCon



I have seen references to OOo 4.0 and now 5.0, what about fixing the 
problems and bugs in the current versions.  Looking ahead is great and 
gives something to shoot for but problems exist _now_ that need to be fixed.


Just my 2 cents.

Andy

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Re: [marketing] OOo 5.0: Some ideas

2010-09-10 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote:
 luiz wrote:

 Hi Charles,

 Can you write some words about your lecture on OOo 5.0 Ideas?
 Our objective is to publish them on special edition of BrOffice.org
 Magazine. The deadline is 19/09.



 Best Regards,


 Luiz Oliveira

 PS: We have the file (odp) and summary of your presentation at OOoCon


 I have seen references to OOo 4.0 and now 5.0, what about fixing the
 problems and bugs in the current versions.  Looking ahead is great and gives
 something to shoot for but problems exist _now_ that need to be fixed.

Because a. Charles is not a developer, b. the talk was a design talk
not a bugfixing talk. c. I agree, that we can do macros that can
automate some of the painful tasks that gets complicated in OOo like
having a page horizontal on a document with just one click; or a one
click good pagination format for books numbering.

 Just my 2 cents.

 Andy

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