Re: [marketing] Re: [marcon] Re: [marketing] Fund request for top page renewal at ja.oo.o, Terada-san

2010-06-17 Thread Maho NAKATA
Hi Cor,

> Independent of how good the page and sympathetic the NLC/contributor
> is, I think we need a very good reason to be able to say yes to such a
> request.
> Maybe that reason is there, then we need to know.

Top page is very important for the marketing point of view. For example
our statistics shows approximately 30,000hit/day and 1,000,000hit/month.
For better presentation, JA project need better, more friendly top page.
Sometimes, it is very hard to find volunteers on such kind of works.
(our economical situation is bad - under deflation, so
people work too hard and focusing on OOo just for free, reducing the cost)
Fortunately I found a person, Terada-san, he did a great work.
He's not a long term contributor of JA, actually this is the first time.
So I'd like to pay as a bounty and motivate him and JA community. 

Thanks

From: Cor Nouws 
Subject: [marketing] Re: [marcon] Re: [marketing] Fund request for top page 
renewal at ja.oo.o, Terada-san
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:55:32 +0200

> Hi all,
> 
> Louis Suarez-Potts wrote (17-06-10 16:42)
>>
>> On 2010-06-17, at 03:26 , Peter Junge wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maho,
>>>
>>> Maho NAKATA wrote:
 Hello, Florian, John, Cor and Italo, (Cc: Terada-san) I'm the
 project lead of ja.oo.o, and I'd like to request 1000 Euro for
 Terada-san's top page renewal work for http://ja.openoffice.org/
 .
>>>
>>> I see one really big issue here. OOo has about 100 sub-domains for
>>> language projects, which were all maintained on a volunteer basis
>>> so far. If we would now start to subsidize one project, it would
>>> create precedence with the consequence, that we have to subsidize
>>> every language project, which then means we will need an extra
>>> budget of 100,000 Euros for web design. I'm not sure how these
>>> funds should be raised.
>>
>>
>> I sort of disagree, as I think the notion of "subsidize" can be
>> clarified fruitfully.
> 
> Independent of how good the page and sympathetic the NLC/contributor
> is, I think we need a very good reason to be able to say yes to such a
> request.
> Maybe that reason is there, then we need to know.
> 
>> For instance, I'd like to think about the idea
>> of having a "slush" or "reserve" fund that can be usefully deployed
>> according to need.
> 
> I agree with that as general approach.
> 
>> Adjudication of such disbursals could be managed
>> by the CC, under the guidance of the NLC leads―Charles and me―with
>> the CC holding not just  a rubber stamp but actual discretionary
>> ability, ie, it could say, "no."
>>
>> An example of what is needed could relate to events that lead to the
>> expansion of the productive (contributory) community. It could also
>> lead to new and useful localizations. I suggested something like
>> this―the protocol, procedures―at the Hamburg F2F meeting last
>> February, with the particular instance being the localization of OOo
>> to the Botswana language. There is already considerable interest
>> there. But funds are needed. The payoff for us (so to speak) is hard
>> to gauge, but this is the nature of such scholarship disbursals: one
>> is sowing but not necessarily reaping. At least not now.
>>
>> But later, yes: if Botswana, or Japanese language groups can act
>> efficiently with funds donated by us, the OOo Community, then the
>> upshot is more contributions, more momentum, more ecosystem
>> development.
> 
> There will be some draft for funding approval guidelines soon (..). So
> I think that is a good moment to look at details: what can reasonably
> be considered useful to fund.
> 
> Regards,
> Cor
> 
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Re: [marketing] Re: [marcon] Re: [marketing] Fund request for top page renewal at ja.oo.o, Terada-san

2010-06-17 Thread ian . lynch
>
> On 2010-06-17, at 10:55 , Cor Nouws wrote:
>
>> There will be some draft for funding approval guidelines soon (..). So I
>> think that is a good moment to look at details: what can reasonably be
>> considered useful to fund.
>
> of course. for anything like this, careful scrutiny and strong argument is
> requisite.

It might be worth noting that the EU is extending projects to include
countries outside Europe and there are specific priorities for languages.
It might well be worth seeing if grants are available for translations. We
currently have an application for 300,000 Euros to support OOo
certification submitted and we will find out the result at the end of
July. Even if it is not successful we can simply apply again next year and
keep going until it is. Our current project is tangentially beneficial to
OOo because it encourages the use of Open Systems and Open Source general
productivity tools. If anyone has 10-15 minutes to spare please contribute
to our research at
http://www.edunetbg.com/limesurvey/index.php?sid=39256&lang=en%20%3E
Please copy the link to any lists/networks where you think there might be
interest.

Thanks.

Ian

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>>
>> Regards,
>> Cor
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