Re: maven-plugins-sandbox

2004-04-24 Thread Trygve Laugstøl
On 24 Apr 2004 09:06:58 -0400, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Howdy,

How about we setup maven-plugins-sandbox, as I want to move all the
half-baked plugins that I'm responsible for and get them out of primary
build and I also want to take a stab at a new 1.x xdoc plugin using the
new java xdoc code and I want to try a new deploy/install plugin using
wagon.
+1

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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox

2004-04-24 Thread Vincent Massol
Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
moving anything?

Also, do you set up a practice of having new plugins systematically go
through the sandbox and the be promoted to maven-plugins after a vote or
is it an adhoc decision.

For example, I'd like to add a new plugin for Abbot (functional tests
for swing applications). Even though it would be better hosted in the
Abbot plugin they do not use Maven and are thus not familiar with it.
I'd like to move to maven-plugins or maven-plugins-sandbox and then
possibly later move it to the Abbot project if they express interest. In
the meantime, I'll support it. I could move it to the sandbox as a first
step if we wish to try this?

Thanks
-Vincent

 -Original Message-
 From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 April 2004 15:07
 To: 'Maven Developers List'
 Subject: maven-plugins-sandbox
 
 Howdy,
 
 How about we setup maven-plugins-sandbox, as I want to move all the
 half-baked plugins that I'm responsible for and get them out of
primary
 build and I also want to take a stab at a new 1.x xdoc plugin using
the
 new java xdoc code and I want to try a new deploy/install plugin using
 wagon.
 
 --
 jvz.
 
 Jason van Zyl
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://maven.apache.org
 
 happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
 elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
come
 and sit softly on your shoulder ...
 
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox

2004-04-24 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 09:24, Vincent Massol wrote:
 Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
 moving anything?

I was going to move:

artifact
castor
codeswitcher
release

Which are plugins that I'm responsible for that aren't good enough for
one reason or another.

 For example, I'd like to add a new plugin for Abbot (functional tests
 for swing applications). Even though it would be better hosted in the
 Abbot plugin they do not use Maven and are thus not familiar with it.
 I'd like to move to maven-plugins or maven-plugins-sandbox and then
 possibly later move it to the Abbot project if they express interest. In
 the meantime, I'll support it. I could move it to the sandbox as a first
 step if we wish to try this?

+1

Go for it.

One thing that really needs to be done, if not already, is filtering
what gets included with the maven 1.x distribution. So the Abbot plugin
may certainly graduate to maven-plugins but it shouldn't ever be
distributed with the core, it can be downloaded.

-- 
jvz.

Jason van Zyl
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://maven.apache.org

happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox

2004-04-24 Thread dion_gillard
Also, what about using the sourceforge maven-plugins project for things 
that are not core?
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dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting



Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/04/2004 11:24:24 PM:

 Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
 moving anything?
 
 Also, do you set up a practice of having new plugins systematically go
 through the sandbox and the be promoted to maven-plugins after a vote or
 is it an adhoc decision.
 
 For example, I'd like to add a new plugin for Abbot (functional tests
 for swing applications). Even though it would be better hosted in the
 Abbot plugin they do not use Maven and are thus not familiar with it.
 I'd like to move to maven-plugins or maven-plugins-sandbox and then
 possibly later move it to the Abbot project if they express interest. In
 the meantime, I'll support it. I could move it to the sandbox as a first
 step if we wish to try this?
 
 Thanks
 -Vincent
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 24 April 2004 15:07
  To: 'Maven Developers List'
  Subject: maven-plugins-sandbox
  
  Howdy,
  
  How about we setup maven-plugins-sandbox, as I want to move all the
  half-baked plugins that I'm responsible for and get them out of
 primary
  build and I also want to take a stab at a new 1.x xdoc plugin using
 the
  new java xdoc code and I want to try a new deploy/install plugin using
  wagon.
  
  --
  jvz.
  
  Jason van Zyl
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://maven.apache.org
  
  happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
  elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
 come
  and sit softly on your shoulder ...
  
   -- Thoreau
  
  
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox

2004-04-24 Thread dion_gillard
Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/04/2004 11:40:42 PM:

 On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 09:24, Vincent Massol wrote:
  Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
  moving anything?
 
 I was going to move:
 
 artifact
 castor
 codeswitcher
 release
 
 Which are plugins that I'm responsible for that aren't good enough for
 one reason or another.

Don't several other plugins rely on artifact, e.g. ear, war etc? 

I'm assuming by 'move' you mean to remove them from maven-plugins cvs. 
This will break those plugins and mean that people building from HEAD will 
need to download the sandbox plugins to get comparable functionality.

Doesn't sound like a good idea to move artifact to me.
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox

2004-04-24 Thread Vincent Massol


 -Original Message-
 From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 April 2004 15:41
 To: Maven Developers List
 Subject: RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
 
 On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 09:24, Vincent Massol wrote:
  Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
  moving anything?
 
 I was going to move:
 
 artifact

It is used by several other plugins, no? Like the war, ejb, ear plugins.

 castor
 codeswitcher
 release
 
 Which are plugins that I'm responsible for that aren't good enough for
 one reason or another.
 
  For example, I'd like to add a new plugin for Abbot (functional
tests
  for swing applications). Even though it would be better hosted in
the
  Abbot plugin they do not use Maven and are thus not familiar with
it.
  I'd like to move to maven-plugins or maven-plugins-sandbox and then
  possibly later move it to the Abbot project if they express
interest. In
  the meantime, I'll support it. I could move it to the sandbox as a
first
  step if we wish to try this?
 
 +1
 
 Go for it.

Ok, I'll wait for maven-plugins-sandbox to be created.

-Vincent

 
 One thing that really needs to be done, if not already, is filtering
 what gets included with the maven 1.x distribution. So the Abbot
plugin
 may certainly graduate to maven-plugins but it shouldn't ever be
 distributed with the core, it can be downloaded.
 
 --
 jvz.
 
 Jason van Zyl
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://maven.apache.org
 
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox

2004-04-24 Thread Vincent Massol


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 April 2004 16:05
 To: Maven Developers List
 Subject: RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
 
 Also, what about using the sourceforge maven-plugins project for
things
 that are not core?

Personally I don't feel like I belong to that SF project. I'd prefer to
develop my plugins in maven-plugins. Maybe it's a question of knowing
the other committers. I feel better here. The community is also the same
as the one developing Maven.

I'm not sure there is anything rational in my statement. It's just a
feeling. But feelings are important in a community... :-)

-Vincent

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 Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/04/2004 11:24:24
PM:
 
  Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
  moving anything?
 
  Also, do you set up a practice of having new plugins systematically
go
  through the sandbox and the be promoted to maven-plugins after a
vote or
  is it an adhoc decision.
 
  For example, I'd like to add a new plugin for Abbot (functional
tests
  for swing applications). Even though it would be better hosted in
the
  Abbot plugin they do not use Maven and are thus not familiar with
it.
  I'd like to move to maven-plugins or maven-plugins-sandbox and then
  possibly later move it to the Abbot project if they express
interest. In
  the meantime, I'll support it. I could move it to the sandbox as a
first
  step if we wish to try this?
 
  Thanks
  -Vincent
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 24 April 2004 15:07
   To: 'Maven Developers List'
   Subject: maven-plugins-sandbox
  
   Howdy,
  
   How about we setup maven-plugins-sandbox, as I want to move all
the
   half-baked plugins that I'm responsible for and get them out of
  primary
   build and I also want to take a stab at a new 1.x xdoc plugin
using
  the
   new java xdoc code and I want to try a new deploy/install plugin
using
   wagon.
  
   --
   jvz.
  
   Jason van Zyl
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   http://maven.apache.org
  
   happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it
will
   elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
  come
   and sit softly on your shoulder ...
  
-- Thoreau
  
  
  
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox

2004-04-24 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 10:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Also, what about using the sourceforge maven-plugins project for things 
 that are not core?

If it suits the people who want to develop the plugins that's totally
fine.

 --
 dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
 
 
 
 Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24/04/2004 11:24:24 PM:
 
  Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
  moving anything?
  
  Also, do you set up a practice of having new plugins systematically go
  through the sandbox and the be promoted to maven-plugins after a vote or
  is it an adhoc decision.
  
  For example, I'd like to add a new plugin for Abbot (functional tests
  for swing applications). Even though it would be better hosted in the
  Abbot plugin they do not use Maven and are thus not familiar with it.
  I'd like to move to maven-plugins or maven-plugins-sandbox and then
  possibly later move it to the Abbot project if they express interest. In
  the meantime, I'll support it. I could move it to the sandbox as a first
  step if we wish to try this?
  
  Thanks
  -Vincent
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 24 April 2004 15:07
   To: 'Maven Developers List'
   Subject: maven-plugins-sandbox
   
   Howdy,
   
   How about we setup maven-plugins-sandbox, as I want to move all the
   half-baked plugins that I'm responsible for and get them out of
  primary
   build and I also want to take a stab at a new 1.x xdoc plugin using
  the
   new java xdoc code and I want to try a new deploy/install plugin using
   wagon.
   
   --
   jvz.
   
   Jason van Zyl
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   http://maven.apache.org
   
   happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
   elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
  come
   and sit softly on your shoulder ...
   
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox

2004-04-24 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 10:06, Vincent Massol wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 24 April 2004 15:41
  To: Maven Developers List
  Subject: RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
  
  On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 09:24, Vincent Massol wrote:
   Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
   moving anything?
  
  I was going to move:
  
  artifact
 
 It is used by several other plugins, no? Like the war, ejb, ear plugins.

I'll check, if it is then I'll just work on the wagon-based version in
the sandbox and swap it out later.

 
 Ok, I'll wait for maven-plugins-sandbox to be created.

There ya go:

http:/http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven-plugins-sandbox/

Perms should be setup correctly and the avail file has been modified.
Anyone with access to maven-plugins and access to maven-plugins-sandbox.

 -Vincent
 
  
  One thing that really needs to be done, if not already, is filtering
  what gets included with the maven 1.x distribution. So the Abbot
 plugin
  may certainly graduate to maven-plugins but it shouldn't ever be
  distributed with the core, it can be downloaded.
  
  --
  jvz.
  
  Jason van Zyl
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://maven.apache.org
  
  happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
  elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
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