Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
+1 to everything Billie says here. I typically advise all podlings to avoid adopting bylaws unless there is a compelling reason to differ from the ASF standard. The "tasked with adopting bylaws" clause in graduation resolutions is unnecessary and has proliferated, IMO, through copy/paste. I say this as someone who has made the same mistake when incubating. In retrospect, I would have stuck with the (sane) defaults. Debates in a PMC over what a particular bylaw phrase actually "means" can be counterproductive and exasperating. -Taylor > On Mar 22, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Billie Rinaldi wrote: > > Not everything needs to be voted upon. The ASF guidelines and Metron's > bylaws specify which actions require a vote. Other types of things, like > choosing a release manager, can be approved by lazy consensus. I just > noticed that Metron's bylaws have slightly different definitions for the > approval types than the ASF typically uses. I'd recommend changing these to > the standard ASF definitions. Specifically, Lazy Consensus does not require > a vote and thus no +1s are needed (https://www.apache.org/ > foundation/glossary.html#LazyConsensus) and Lazy Majority and Lazy 2/3 > Majority should be called Majority (https://www.apache.org/ > foundation/glossary.html#MajorityApproval) and 2/3 Majority. > >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Justin Leet wrote: >> >> Right now it's just support, not a vote. I assume, based on our past >> practices, that there will be a separate [VOTE] thread. >> >> Justin >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Otto Fowler >> wrote: >> >>> +1 but is this explicitly an official vote? >>> >>> >>> On March 21, 2017 at 13:51:16, Justin Leet (justinjl...@gmail.com) >> wrote: >>> >>> +1 for Matt >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:21 PM, zeo...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> +1 for mattf On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:04 AM Ryan Merriman wrote: > +1 for Matt > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Matt Foley >> wrote: > >> Casey, you’ve been a great release manager. I know how much detail > effort >> goes into this role. >> >> I am willing to serve as RM for the next while, if the community >>> would >> like. I was the RM for Hadoop for about a year, and in fact was RM >>> for > its >> 1.0 release. Granted that was a while ago, but overall process >>> doesn’t > seem >> to have changed much :-) >> >> Cheers, >> --Matt >> >> On 3/21/17, 7:32 AM, "Casey Stella" wrote: >> >> Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to >> constructing >> releases that conform to apache standards and policies is the main >> duty. >> This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside of the >> incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that someone > with >> previous release management experience in other projects will >> volunteer. >> We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand at the >> tiller >> would be advantageous. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi < bil...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>> See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager > and >>> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information on >> the >>> tasks that a release manager performs. >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed < >> khurramah...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the >> responsibilities of a release manager for the Metron project. On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" >> wrote: > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as the >> Metron > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's >> time for > another release manager to step into my place. > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the next >> release >>> of > Metron? > > Best, > > Casey > >>> >> >> >> >> >> > -- Jon >>> >>> >>
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
Agreed, expressions of support are always appreciated. :-) I only meant to point out that an official vote is not always required when support has already been expressed, not to discourage anyone from being supportive. +1 away! On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Matt Foley wrote: > As Billie says, our bylaws don’t require a vote to assign a release > manager. > However, an RM certainly needs the support of the community to be > effective, > so all these +1’s are very much appreciated! :-) > Thanks, > --Matt > > On 3/22/17, 8:30 AM, "Billie Rinaldi" wrote: > > Not everything needs to be voted upon. The ASF guidelines and Metron's > bylaws specify which actions require a vote. Other types of things, > like > choosing a release manager, can be approved by lazy consensus. I just > noticed that Metron's bylaws have slightly different definitions for > the > approval types than the ASF typically uses. I'd recommend changing > these to > the standard ASF definitions. Specifically, Lazy Consensus does not > require > a vote and thus no +1s are needed (https://www.apache.org/ > foundation/glossary.html#LazyConsensus) and Lazy Majority and Lazy 2/3 > Majority should be called Majority (https://www.apache.org/ > foundation/glossary.html#MajorityApproval) and 2/3 Majority. > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Justin Leet > wrote: > > > Right now it's just support, not a vote. I assume, based on our past > > practices, that there will be a separate [VOTE] thread. > > > > Justin > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Otto Fowler < > ottobackwa...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > +1 but is this explicitly an official vote? > > > > > > > > > On March 21, 2017 at 13:51:16, Justin Leet (justinjl...@gmail.com) > > wrote: > > > > > > +1 for Matt > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:21 PM, zeo...@gmail.com < > zeo...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 for mattf > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:04 AM Ryan Merriman < > merrim...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 for Matt > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Matt Foley > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Casey, you’ve been a great release manager. I know how much > detail > > > > > effort > > > > > > goes into this role. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am willing to serve as RM for the next while, if the > community > > > would > > > > > > like. I was the RM for Hadoop for about a year, and in fact > was RM > > > for > > > > > its > > > > > > 1.0 release. Granted that was a while ago, but overall > process > > > doesn’t > > > > > seem > > > > > > to have changed much :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > --Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/21/17, 7:32 AM, "Casey Stella" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to > > > > > > constructing > > > > > > releases that conform to apache standards and policies is > the main > > > > > > duty. > > > > > > This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside > of the > > > > > > incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that > someone > > > > > with > > > > > > previous release management experience in other projects will > > > > > > volunteer. > > > > > > We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand > at the > > > > > > tiller > > > > > > would be advantageous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi < > > > > bil...@apache.org> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_ > manager > > > > > and > > > > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for > information > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > tasks that a release manager performs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed < > > > > > > khurramah...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the > > > > > > responsibilities of a > > > > > > > > release manager for the Metron project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" < > ceste...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few > months as > > > > the > > > > > > Metron > > > > > > > > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended > and it's > > > > > > time for > > > > > > > > > another release manager to step into my place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for > the > > > > next > > > > > > release > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
As Billie says, our bylaws don’t require a vote to assign a release manager. However, an RM certainly needs the support of the community to be effective, so all these +1’s are very much appreciated! :-) Thanks, --Matt On 3/22/17, 8:30 AM, "Billie Rinaldi" wrote: Not everything needs to be voted upon. The ASF guidelines and Metron's bylaws specify which actions require a vote. Other types of things, like choosing a release manager, can be approved by lazy consensus. I just noticed that Metron's bylaws have slightly different definitions for the approval types than the ASF typically uses. I'd recommend changing these to the standard ASF definitions. Specifically, Lazy Consensus does not require a vote and thus no +1s are needed (https://www.apache.org/ foundation/glossary.html#LazyConsensus) and Lazy Majority and Lazy 2/3 Majority should be called Majority (https://www.apache.org/ foundation/glossary.html#MajorityApproval) and 2/3 Majority. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Justin Leet wrote: > Right now it's just support, not a vote. I assume, based on our past > practices, that there will be a separate [VOTE] thread. > > Justin > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Otto Fowler > wrote: > > > +1 but is this explicitly an official vote? > > > > > > On March 21, 2017 at 13:51:16, Justin Leet (justinjl...@gmail.com) > wrote: > > > > +1 for Matt > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:21 PM, zeo...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > > +1 for mattf > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:04 AM Ryan Merriman > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 for Matt > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Matt Foley > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Casey, you’ve been a great release manager. I know how much detail > > > > effort > > > > > goes into this role. > > > > > > > > > > I am willing to serve as RM for the next while, if the community > > would > > > > > like. I was the RM for Hadoop for about a year, and in fact was RM > > for > > > > its > > > > > 1.0 release. Granted that was a while ago, but overall process > > doesn’t > > > > seem > > > > > to have changed much :-) > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > --Matt > > > > > > > > > > On 3/21/17, 7:32 AM, "Casey Stella" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to > > > > > constructing > > > > > releases that conform to apache standards and policies is the main > > > > > duty. > > > > > This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside of the > > > > > incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that someone > > > > with > > > > > previous release management experience in other projects will > > > > > volunteer. > > > > > We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand at the > > > > > tiller > > > > > would be advantageous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi < > > > bil...@apache.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager > > > > and > > > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > tasks that a release manager performs. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed < > > > > > khurramah...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the > > > > > responsibilities of a > > > > > > > release manager for the Metron project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as > > > the > > > > > Metron > > > > > > > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's > > > > > time for > > > > > > > > another release manager to step into my place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the > > > next > > > > > release > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Metron? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
Not everything needs to be voted upon. The ASF guidelines and Metron's bylaws specify which actions require a vote. Other types of things, like choosing a release manager, can be approved by lazy consensus. I just noticed that Metron's bylaws have slightly different definitions for the approval types than the ASF typically uses. I'd recommend changing these to the standard ASF definitions. Specifically, Lazy Consensus does not require a vote and thus no +1s are needed (https://www.apache.org/ foundation/glossary.html#LazyConsensus) and Lazy Majority and Lazy 2/3 Majority should be called Majority (https://www.apache.org/ foundation/glossary.html#MajorityApproval) and 2/3 Majority. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Justin Leet wrote: > Right now it's just support, not a vote. I assume, based on our past > practices, that there will be a separate [VOTE] thread. > > Justin > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Otto Fowler > wrote: > > > +1 but is this explicitly an official vote? > > > > > > On March 21, 2017 at 13:51:16, Justin Leet (justinjl...@gmail.com) > wrote: > > > > +1 for Matt > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:21 PM, zeo...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > > +1 for mattf > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:04 AM Ryan Merriman > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 for Matt > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Matt Foley > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Casey, you’ve been a great release manager. I know how much detail > > > > effort > > > > > goes into this role. > > > > > > > > > > I am willing to serve as RM for the next while, if the community > > would > > > > > like. I was the RM for Hadoop for about a year, and in fact was RM > > for > > > > its > > > > > 1.0 release. Granted that was a while ago, but overall process > > doesn’t > > > > seem > > > > > to have changed much :-) > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > --Matt > > > > > > > > > > On 3/21/17, 7:32 AM, "Casey Stella" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to > > > > > constructing > > > > > releases that conform to apache standards and policies is the main > > > > > duty. > > > > > This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside of the > > > > > incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that someone > > > > with > > > > > previous release management experience in other projects will > > > > > volunteer. > > > > > We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand at the > > > > > tiller > > > > > would be advantageous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi < > > > bil...@apache.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager > > > > and > > > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > tasks that a release manager performs. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed < > > > > > khurramah...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the > > > > > responsibilities of a > > > > > > > release manager for the Metron project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as > > > the > > > > > Metron > > > > > > > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's > > > > > time for > > > > > > > > another release manager to step into my place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the > > > next > > > > > release > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Metron? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
+1 for Matt On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Justin Leet wrote: > Right now it's just support, not a vote. I assume, based on our past > practices, that there will be a separate [VOTE] thread. > > Justin > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Otto Fowler > wrote: > > > +1 but is this explicitly an official vote? > > > > > > On March 21, 2017 at 13:51:16, Justin Leet (justinjl...@gmail.com) > wrote: > > > > +1 for Matt > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:21 PM, zeo...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > > +1 for mattf > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:04 AM Ryan Merriman > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 for Matt > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Matt Foley > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Casey, you’ve been a great release manager. I know how much detail > > > > effort > > > > > goes into this role. > > > > > > > > > > I am willing to serve as RM for the next while, if the community > > would > > > > > like. I was the RM for Hadoop for about a year, and in fact was RM > > for > > > > its > > > > > 1.0 release. Granted that was a while ago, but overall process > > doesn’t > > > > seem > > > > > to have changed much :-) > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > --Matt > > > > > > > > > > On 3/21/17, 7:32 AM, "Casey Stella" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to > > > > > constructing > > > > > releases that conform to apache standards and policies is the main > > > > > duty. > > > > > This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside of the > > > > > incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that someone > > > > with > > > > > previous release management experience in other projects will > > > > > volunteer. > > > > > We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand at the > > > > > tiller > > > > > would be advantageous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi < > > > bil...@apache.org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager > > > > and > > > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > tasks that a release manager performs. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed < > > > > > khurramah...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the > > > > > responsibilities of a > > > > > > > release manager for the Metron project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as > > > the > > > > > Metron > > > > > > > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's > > > > > time for > > > > > > > > another release manager to step into my place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the > > > next > > > > > release > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Metron? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
Right now it's just support, not a vote. I assume, based on our past practices, that there will be a separate [VOTE] thread. Justin On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Otto Fowler wrote: > +1 but is this explicitly an official vote? > > > On March 21, 2017 at 13:51:16, Justin Leet (justinjl...@gmail.com) wrote: > > +1 for Matt > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:21 PM, zeo...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > +1 for mattf > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:04 AM Ryan Merriman > > wrote: > > > > > +1 for Matt > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Matt Foley wrote: > > > > > > > Casey, you’ve been a great release manager. I know how much detail > > > effort > > > > goes into this role. > > > > > > > > I am willing to serve as RM for the next while, if the community > would > > > > like. I was the RM for Hadoop for about a year, and in fact was RM > for > > > its > > > > 1.0 release. Granted that was a while ago, but overall process > doesn’t > > > seem > > > > to have changed much :-) > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > --Matt > > > > > > > > On 3/21/17, 7:32 AM, "Casey Stella" wrote: > > > > > > > > Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to > > > > constructing > > > > releases that conform to apache standards and policies is the main > > > > duty. > > > > This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside of the > > > > incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that someone > > > with > > > > previous release management experience in other projects will > > > > volunteer. > > > > We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand at the > > > > tiller > > > > would be advantageous. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi < > > bil...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager > > > and > > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information > > on > > > > the > > > > > tasks that a release manager performs. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed < > > > > khurramah...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the > > > > responsibilities of a > > > > > > release manager for the Metron project. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as > > the > > > > Metron > > > > > > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's > > > > time for > > > > > > > another release manager to step into my place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the > > next > > > > release > > > > > of > > > > > > > Metron? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jon > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
+1 but is this explicitly an official vote? On March 21, 2017 at 13:51:16, Justin Leet (justinjl...@gmail.com) wrote: +1 for Matt On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:21 PM, zeo...@gmail.com wrote: > +1 for mattf > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:04 AM Ryan Merriman > wrote: > > > +1 for Matt > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Matt Foley wrote: > > > > > Casey, you’ve been a great release manager. I know how much detail > > effort > > > goes into this role. > > > > > > I am willing to serve as RM for the next while, if the community would > > > like. I was the RM for Hadoop for about a year, and in fact was RM for > > its > > > 1.0 release. Granted that was a while ago, but overall process doesn’t > > seem > > > to have changed much :-) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > --Matt > > > > > > On 3/21/17, 7:32 AM, "Casey Stella" wrote: > > > > > > Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to > > > constructing > > > releases that conform to apache standards and policies is the main > > > duty. > > > This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside of the > > > incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that someone > > with > > > previous release management experience in other projects will > > > volunteer. > > > We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand at the > > > tiller > > > would be advantageous. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi < > bil...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager > > and > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information > on > > > the > > > > tasks that a release manager performs. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed < > > > khurramah...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the > > > responsibilities of a > > > > > release manager for the Metron project. > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as > the > > > Metron > > > > > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's > > > time for > > > > > > another release manager to step into my place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the > next > > > release > > > > of > > > > > > Metron? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jon >
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
+1 for Matt On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:21 PM, zeo...@gmail.com wrote: > +1 for mattf > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:04 AM Ryan Merriman > wrote: > > > +1 for Matt > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Matt Foley wrote: > > > > > Casey, you’ve been a great release manager. I know how much detail > > effort > > > goes into this role. > > > > > > I am willing to serve as RM for the next while, if the community would > > > like. I was the RM for Hadoop for about a year, and in fact was RM for > > its > > > 1.0 release. Granted that was a while ago, but overall process doesn’t > > seem > > > to have changed much :-) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > --Matt > > > > > > On 3/21/17, 7:32 AM, "Casey Stella" wrote: > > > > > > Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to > > > constructing > > > releases that conform to apache standards and policies is the main > > > duty. > > > This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside of the > > > incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that someone > > with > > > previous release management experience in other projects will > > > volunteer. > > > We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand at the > > > tiller > > > would be advantageous. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi < > bil...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager > > and > > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information > on > > > the > > > > tasks that a release manager performs. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed < > > > khurramah...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the > > > responsibilities of a > > > > > release manager for the Metron project. > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as > the > > > Metron > > > > > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's > > > time for > > > > > > another release manager to step into my place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the > next > > > release > > > > of > > > > > > Metron? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jon >
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
+1 for mattf On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:04 AM Ryan Merriman wrote: > +1 for Matt > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Matt Foley wrote: > > > Casey, you’ve been a great release manager. I know how much detail > effort > > goes into this role. > > > > I am willing to serve as RM for the next while, if the community would > > like. I was the RM for Hadoop for about a year, and in fact was RM for > its > > 1.0 release. Granted that was a while ago, but overall process doesn’t > seem > > to have changed much :-) > > > > Cheers, > > --Matt > > > > On 3/21/17, 7:32 AM, "Casey Stella" wrote: > > > > Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to > > constructing > > releases that conform to apache standards and policies is the main > > duty. > > This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside of the > > incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that someone > with > > previous release management experience in other projects will > > volunteer. > > We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand at the > > tiller > > would be advantageous. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi > > wrote: > > > > > See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager > and > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information on > > the > > > tasks that a release manager performs. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed < > > khurramah...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the > > responsibilities of a > > > > release manager for the Metron project. > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as the > > Metron > > > > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's > > time for > > > > > another release manager to step into my place. > > > > > > > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the next > > release > > > of > > > > > Metron? > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Jon
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
+1 for Matt On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Matt Foley wrote: > Casey, you’ve been a great release manager. I know how much detail effort > goes into this role. > > I am willing to serve as RM for the next while, if the community would > like. I was the RM for Hadoop for about a year, and in fact was RM for its > 1.0 release. Granted that was a while ago, but overall process doesn’t seem > to have changed much :-) > > Cheers, > --Matt > > On 3/21/17, 7:32 AM, "Casey Stella" wrote: > > Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to > constructing > releases that conform to apache standards and policies is the main > duty. > This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside of the > incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that someone with > previous release management experience in other projects will > volunteer. > We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand at the > tiller > would be advantageous. > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi > wrote: > > > See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager and > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information on > the > > tasks that a release manager performs. > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed < > khurramah...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the > responsibilities of a > > > release manager for the Metron project. > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" > wrote: > > > > > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as the > Metron > > > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's > time for > > > > another release manager to step into my place. > > > > > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the next > release > > of > > > > Metron? > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
I do not know if this matters or not but I would like to vote for Matt as next RM. Cheers, Umesh Kaushik (Full stack developer- cyber security analyst: Bhujang innovations) (9620023458) Sent from mobile device, kindly excuse any typographic error. On Mar 21, 2017 8:14 PM, "Matt Foley" wrote: > Casey, you’ve been a great release manager. I know how much detail effort > goes into this role. > > I am willing to serve as RM for the next while, if the community would > like. I was the RM for Hadoop for about a year, and in fact was RM for its > 1.0 release. Granted that was a while ago, but overall process doesn’t seem > to have changed much :-) > > Cheers, > --Matt > > On 3/21/17, 7:32 AM, "Casey Stella" wrote: > > Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to > constructing > releases that conform to apache standards and policies is the main > duty. > This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside of the > incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that someone with > previous release management experience in other projects will > volunteer. > We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand at the > tiller > would be advantageous. > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi > wrote: > > > See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager and > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information on > the > > tasks that a release manager performs. > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed < > khurramah...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the > responsibilities of a > > > release manager for the Metron project. > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" > wrote: > > > > > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as the > Metron > > > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's > time for > > > > another release manager to step into my place. > > > > > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the next > release > > of > > > > Metron? > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
Casey, you’ve been a great release manager. I know how much detail effort goes into this role. I am willing to serve as RM for the next while, if the community would like. I was the RM for Hadoop for about a year, and in fact was RM for its 1.0 release. Granted that was a while ago, but overall process doesn’t seem to have changed much :-) Cheers, --Matt On 3/21/17, 7:32 AM, "Casey Stella" wrote: Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to constructing releases that conform to apache standards and policies is the main duty. This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside of the incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that someone with previous release management experience in other projects will volunteer. We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand at the tiller would be advantageous. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi wrote: > See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager and > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information on the > tasks that a release manager performs. > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed > wrote: > > > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the responsibilities of a > > release manager for the Metron project. > > > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" wrote: > > > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as the Metron > > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's time for > > > another release manager to step into my place. > > > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the next release > of > > > Metron? > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Casey > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
Right, Billie is exactly right. Working with the community to constructing releases that conform to apache standards and policies is the main duty. This will (hopefully) be our first set of releases outside of the incubator, so if I'm allowed to be biased, I'm hoping that someone with previous release management experience in other projects will volunteer. We're leaving the nest a bit and having an experienced hand at the tiller would be advantageous. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Billie Rinaldi wrote: > See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager and > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information on the > tasks that a release manager performs. > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed > wrote: > > > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the responsibilities of a > > release manager for the Metron project. > > > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" wrote: > > > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as the Metron > > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's time for > > > another release manager to step into my place. > > > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the next release > of > > > Metron? > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Casey > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
See http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing#release_manager and http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html for information on the tasks that a release manager performs. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Khurram Ahmed wrote: > Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the responsibilities of a > release manager for the Metron project. > > On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" wrote: > > > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as the Metron > > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's time for > > another release manager to step into my place. > > > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the next release of > > Metron? > > > > Best, > > > > Casey > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Stepping down as release manager
Casey it would be helpful if you could outline the responsibilities of a release manager for the Metron project. On Mar 21, 2017 6:57 PM, "Casey Stella" wrote: > I've been extremely honored to spend the last few months as the Metron > Release Manager. That being said, my watch is ended and it's time for > another release manager to step into my place. > > Who would like to volunteer to be release manager for the next release of > Metron? > > Best, > > Casey >
