Bug for adding Textmate lexer in 11.3 beta 2

2020-02-06 Thread Christian Lenz
Hey guys,

I just found this bug here in NB 11.3 Beta 2: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-3801

IMHO, it should work in a basic way but for this textmate file it doesn’t. 
Would be great if we can have a fix for that before 11.3 is out. It is Major, I 
didn’t set it to critical because I’m not sure it is or not.


Cheers

Chris


Re: Toolbar grips for FlatLaf

2020-02-06 Thread tygrysek HD
I think it is small inconsistency because if you have file names on top
then between file names exist vertical line, but it is only my suggestion
;).

czw., 6 lut 2020 o 22:47 Laszlo Kishalmi 
napisał(a):

> IMHO, I think its better without the horizontal lines. It is a flat LaF
> aster all.
>
> On 2/6/20 12:46 PM, tygrysek HD wrote:
> > Can you look at that:
> >
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/g7qmgrsngixcp04/Metal_and_FlatLafLight-02_a.png?dl=0
> >
> > Maybe there should be a horizontal line between file names?
> >
> > czw., 6.02.2020, 18:10 użytkownik Alessandro 
> > napisał:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>I have opened https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1928 to fix my
> >> last
> >> gripe with FlatLaf: toolbar grips.
> >>
> >> Testing on MacOS and MacOS Retina would be more than welcome as I do not
> >> own an HiDPI monitor.
> >>
> >> Karl Tauber confirmed is OK on Windows with 150% HiDPI.
> >>
> >> Would also be awesome to include the PR in next beta.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Alex
> >>
>
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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-06 Thread Jan Lahoda
On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 5:19 AM Ivan Soleimanipour <
ivan.soleimanip...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> This is odd.
> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx et-al is a module that's part of the "Studio"
> closed-source product.
> Maybe some kind of stub was added later on. My copy of the NB repo is is
> all pre-apache and even older and it doesn't
> have these modules.
> Maybe Oracle accidentally gave away the C++ from Studio as opposed to
> plain NB.
>

FWIW, the cnd.debugger.dbx module was actually part of the NetBeans
repository:
http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx

And it is part of the donation, I believe, but Geertjan deleted it:
https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans/commit/87a0e772aa34c308717d6522982810267aca54a7

presumably because it has problematic dependencies.


> What apache repo/branch is this new batch of giveaways which includes C++?
> I'll try and look at this module and
> maybe it'll jog my memory/clear things up.
>

I believe Geertjan's working branch is here:
https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans

Jan


>
>
> On 2/6/20 1:50 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> > Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
> > get a notification if you change something ;)
> >
> > Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:
> >
> > cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx
> >
> > In the repo there is
> >
> > cnd.debugger.common2
> > cnd.debugger.gdb2
> >
> > maybe similar case?
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> >> Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to
> build.
> >>
> >> where do I find the following definition?
> >>
> >> netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
> >> org.netbeans.libs.clank
> >>
> >> It is not at the given location.
> >>
> >> Same message different location:
> >>
> >> /netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
> >> exist:
> >>
> >> first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
> >> ant via commandline.
> >>
> >>
> >> I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
> >> Or can I config something?
> >>
> >> Doku would be also fine. :)
> >>
> >> Thanks any help.
> >>
> >> On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >>
> >>> Get the code to compile. :-)
> >>>
> >>> That's what I'm working on now.
> >>>
> >>> Gj
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> >>>
>  What are the tasks to do?
> 
>  I help if I can.
> 
>  On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > You can use openbeans.org.
> >
> > Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my
> fork
> > right now:
> >
> > https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
>  birger...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
> >> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
> >> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
> >> Netbeans.
> >>
> >> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
> >> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
> >> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to
> support
> >> Apache Netbeans?
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Birger
> >>
> >>
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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-06 Thread Ivan Soleimanipour

This is odd.
cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx et-al is a module that's part of the "Studio" 
closed-source product.
Maybe some kind of stub was added later on. My copy of the NB repo is is all 
pre-apache and even older and it doesn't
have these modules.
Maybe Oracle accidentally gave away the C++ from Studio as opposed to plain NB.

What apache repo/branch is this new batch of giveaways which includes C++? I'll 
try and look at this module and
maybe it'll jog my memory/clear things up.


On 2/6/20 1:50 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
get a notification if you change something ;)

Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:

cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx

In the repo there is

cnd.debugger.common2
cnd.debugger.gdb2

maybe similar case?

All the best

Peter

On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to build.

where do I find the following definition?

netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
org.netbeans.libs.clank

It is not at the given location.

Same message different location:

/netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
exist:

first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
ant via commandline.


I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
Or can I config something?

Doku would be also fine. :)

Thanks any help.

On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:


Get the code to compile. :-)

That's what I'm working on now.

Gj

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:


What are the tasks to do?

I help if I can.

On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

You can use openbeans.org.

Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork
right now:

https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans

Gj

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <

birger...@gmail.com>

wrote:


Hi,


Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
Netbeans.

But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support
Apache Netbeans?


Best regards,
Birger

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Re: PR review milestone 11.3

2020-02-06 Thread Josh Juneau
Hi Eric,

I have been using the latest 11.3 beta for the past few days without issues.  
I'd say +1 to a vc1 next week.

Thanks

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau

> On Feb 6, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Eric Barboni  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> 
> 
> I will not be able to do efficient merge/review on friday + weekend. 
> 
> I'm thinking on doing beta3 preparation on Monday. Maybe can it be vc1 ?
> This is community choice I guess. (If we feel 11.3 ready)
> 
> 
> 
> Folks, feel free to review/merge what is on
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/milestones/11.3. The PR for beta3 will
> catch them.
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Eric 
> 


Re: FOSDEM talk: "From Oracle to Apache: News from NetBeans Community"

2020-02-06 Thread James Gosling
Wow.I totally forgot that I had told that story.

> On Feb 6, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:
> 
> Here's the awesome YouTube version of that textual explication:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv5Q39MuTvk
> 
> :-)
> 
> Gj
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:58 PM James Gosling  wrote:
> 
>> Here’s a little piece of relevant Sun history you may not know: when I was
>> trying to get Sun to buy NetBeans, the
>> powers-that-be didn’t like it because it wasn’t a “big play”.  They wanted
>> to buy a big tool company for a lot
>> of money.  They settled on Forté software, which was completely idiotic
>> (they did developer tools for IBM
>> mainframes), but they were expensive (>1$B).  I wouldn’t shut up about how
>> idiotic this was, especially
>> given that NetBeans was a much better company with a much better product.
>> I was effectively asked
>> “If we buy both, will you shut up?”.  I said OK, Forté crashed and burned,
>> NetBeans sailed on.
>> 
>> You should have charged Sun more.  :-)
>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Geertjan Wielenga 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We’re implicitly keeping the Sun flag flying. :-)
>>> 
>>> Gj
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 22:27, James Gosling  wrote:
>>> 
 That was a really nice talk!  Thanks for doing it!
 
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 10:54 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
>> geert...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Several of us on the mailing list were at FOSDEM in Brussel yesterday
>>> (Neil, Jan Lahoda, Martin Entlicher, Patrik Karlstrom) and it was a
>> pretty
>>> good event -- I think we should treat FOSDEM as a place where we can
 get
>>> together every year and share new insights etc around NetBeans.
>>> 
>>> One of the talks was by me, specifically about the state and
>> direction
 of
>>> NetBeans, it takes about 20 minutes, take a look here:
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://mirror.cyberbits.eu/fosdem/2020/UD2.119/fromoracleapache.webm
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Gj
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
 
 
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RE: [discuss] NetCAT 12.0 schedule

2020-02-06 Thread Eric Barboni
Hi,
 I guess the big picture is ok for me. 

As per 11.2 new json stuff we can name what we want even netcat-beta1 (we put a 
name to a git hash and the brave (very brave) Jenkins build it branded ) to be 
clear to NetCAT tribe member.

If I understand correctly according to RELEASE schedule,  just after 11.3 (in 
march) we will  create branch release120, and have the merge windows to close 
faster than for other quarterly release.

If "mysuperdonation/feature" (because of legal stuff, code review ...)  is 
ready just after 11.3 do we accept it to 12.0 LTS ? or do we postpone to next 
feature 12.1 ? Same question if "mysuperdonation/feature" ready during NetCAT 
in progress?
 
Best Regards
Eric 

-Message d'origine-
De : Jiří Kovalský  
Envoyé : mercredi 5 février 2020 20:54
À : dev@netbeans.apache.org
Objet : Re: [discuss] NetCAT 12.0 schedule

Thanks Neil & Josh! The build names were updated.

-Jirka

Dne 05. 02. 20 v 20:04 Neil C Smith napsal(a):
> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 00:21, Jiří Kovalský  wrote:
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org
>> _confluence_display_NETBEANS_NetCAT=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZ
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>> HeIKZzP5F7SK0yjDKWAqY=
>>
>> If you have any feedback (both constructive or appreciative) I would 
>> love to hear that.
> 
> A definitely constructive and appreciative +1!  Looks great.
> 
> Only change would be to use beta1, beta2, etc. rather than vc1, vc2.
> The vc suffix is meant to be just for builds being voted on (voting 
> candidate), so only for the intended final build going through the May
> 12 vote.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
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PR review milestone 11.3

2020-02-06 Thread Eric Barboni
Hi folks,

 

I will not be able to do efficient merge/review on friday + weekend. 

I'm thinking on doing beta3 preparation on Monday. Maybe can it be vc1 ?
This is community choice I guess. (If we feel 11.3 ready)

 

Folks, feel free to review/merge what is on
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/milestones/11.3. The PR for beta3 will
catch them.

 

Best Regards

Eric 



Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Feel free to change everything completely -- though a clue might be to take
a look at a the installation directory of a full 8.2 distribution (or a
C/C++ specific distribution of 8.2), to see what exactly (in JARs) is in
the folders 'cnd', 'cndext', and 'dlight' and then try to mirror that in
your clone (in NetBeans module projects).

Gj

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 11:03 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> I see. I had hopes that still one got lost in the merge.
>
> I will try to find a solution. Thanks for the feedback.
>
>
> On 06.02.20 22:57, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > Yes, heaps of things to figure out, far from anywhere where I have
> answers
> > to your questions right now.
> >
> > All that's been added is 'cnd', 'cndext', and 'dlight'. All answers to
> your
> > questions will be in one/more of these.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:51 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
> >> get a notification if you change something ;)
> >>
> >> Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:
> >>
> >> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx
> >>
> >> In the repo there is
> >>
> >> cnd.debugger.common2
> >> cnd.debugger.gdb2
> >>
> >> maybe similar case?
> >>
> >> All the best
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> >>> Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to
> >> build.
> >>> where do I find the following definition?
> >>>
> >>> netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
> >>> org.netbeans.libs.clank
> >>>
> >>> It is not at the given location.
> >>>
> >>> Same message different location:
> >>>
> >>> /netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
> >>> exist:
> >>>
> >>> first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
> >>> ant via commandline.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
> >>> Or can I config something?
> >>>
> >>> Doku would be also fine. :)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks any help.
> >>>
> >>> On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >>>
>  Get the code to compile. :-)
> 
>  That's what I'm working on now.
> 
>  Gj
> 
>  On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> > What are the tasks to do?
> >
> > I help if I can.
> >
> > On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >> You can use openbeans.org.
> >>
> >> Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my
> >> fork
> >> right now:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
> > birger...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for
> C++
> >>> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
> >>> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
> >>> Netbeans.
> >>>
> >>> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is
> there
> >>> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
> >>> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to
> >> support
> >>> Apache Netbeans?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Birger
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-06 Thread Peter Kovacs
I see. I had hopes that still one got lost in the merge.

I will try to find a solution. Thanks for the feedback.


On 06.02.20 22:57, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Yes, heaps of things to figure out, far from anywhere where I have answers
> to your questions right now.
>
> All that's been added is 'cnd', 'cndext', and 'dlight'. All answers to your
> questions will be in one/more of these.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:51 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
>> get a notification if you change something ;)
>>
>> Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:
>>
>> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx
>>
>> In the repo there is
>>
>> cnd.debugger.common2
>> cnd.debugger.gdb2
>>
>> maybe similar case?
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to
>> build.
>>> where do I find the following definition?
>>>
>>> netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
>>> org.netbeans.libs.clank
>>>
>>> It is not at the given location.
>>>
>>> Same message different location:
>>>
>>> /netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
>>> exist:
>>>
>>> first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
>>> ant via commandline.
>>>
>>>
>>> I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
>>> Or can I config something?
>>>
>>> Doku would be also fine. :)
>>>
>>> Thanks any help.
>>>
>>> On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>
 Get the code to compile. :-)

 That's what I'm working on now.

 Gj

 On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> What are the tasks to do?
>
> I help if I can.
>
> On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>> You can use openbeans.org.
>>
>> Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my
>> fork
>> right now:
>>
>> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
> birger...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
>>> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
>>> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
>>> Netbeans.
>>>
>>> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
>>> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
>>> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to
>> support
>>> Apache Netbeans?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Birger
>>>
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Re: FOSDEM talk: "From Oracle to Apache: News from NetBeans Community"

2020-02-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Here's the awesome YouTube version of that textual explication:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv5Q39MuTvk

:-)

Gj


On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:58 PM James Gosling  wrote:

> Here’s a little piece of relevant Sun history you may not know: when I was
> trying to get Sun to buy NetBeans, the
> powers-that-be didn’t like it because it wasn’t a “big play”.  They wanted
> to buy a big tool company for a lot
> of money.  They settled on Forté software, which was completely idiotic
> (they did developer tools for IBM
> mainframes), but they were expensive (>1$B).  I wouldn’t shut up about how
> idiotic this was, especially
> given that NetBeans was a much better company with a much better product.
> I was effectively asked
> “If we buy both, will you shut up?”.  I said OK, Forté crashed and burned,
> NetBeans sailed on.
>
> You should have charged Sun more.  :-)
>
> > On Feb 6, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> > We’re implicitly keeping the Sun flag flying. :-)
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 22:27, James Gosling  wrote:
> >
> >> That was a really nice talk!  Thanks for doing it!
> >>
>  On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 10:54 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geert...@apache.org>
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Several of us on the mailing list were at FOSDEM in Brussel yesterday
> > (Neil, Jan Lahoda, Martin Entlicher, Patrik Karlstrom) and it was a
>  pretty
> > good event -- I think we should treat FOSDEM as a place where we can
> >> get
> > together every year and share new insights etc around NetBeans.
> >
> > One of the talks was by me, specifically about the state and
> direction
> >> of
> > NetBeans, it takes about 20 minutes, take a look here:
> >
> >
> https://mirror.cyberbits.eu/fosdem/2020/UD2.119/fromoracleapache.webm
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>
> >>
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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, heaps of things to figure out, far from anywhere where I have answers
to your questions right now.

All that's been added is 'cnd', 'cndext', and 'dlight'. All answers to your
questions will be in one/more of these.

Gj

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:51 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
> get a notification if you change something ;)
>
> Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:
>
> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx
>
> In the repo there is
>
> cnd.debugger.common2
> cnd.debugger.gdb2
>
> maybe similar case?
>
> All the best
>
> Peter
>
> On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> > Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to
> build.
> >
> > where do I find the following definition?
> >
> > netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
> > org.netbeans.libs.clank
> >
> > It is not at the given location.
> >
> > Same message different location:
> >
> > /netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
> > exist:
> >
> > first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
> > ant via commandline.
> >
> >
> > I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
> > Or can I config something?
> >
> > Doku would be also fine. :)
> >
> > Thanks any help.
> >
> > On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >
> >> Get the code to compile. :-)
> >>
> >> That's what I'm working on now.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> >>
> >>> What are the tasks to do?
> >>>
> >>> I help if I can.
> >>>
> >>> On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>  You can use openbeans.org.
> 
>  Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my
> fork
>  right now:
> 
>  https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
> 
>  Gj
> 
>  On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
> >>> birger...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
> > projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
> > eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
> > Netbeans.
> >
> > But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
> > some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
> > plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to
> support
> > Apache Netbeans?
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Birger
> >
> > -
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Re: FOSDEM talk: "From Oracle to Apache: News from NetBeans Community"

2020-02-06 Thread James Gosling
Here’s a little piece of relevant Sun history you may not know: when I was 
trying to get Sun to buy NetBeans, the
powers-that-be didn’t like it because it wasn’t a “big play”.  They wanted to 
buy a big tool company for a lot
of money.  They settled on Forté software, which was completely idiotic (they 
did developer tools for IBM
mainframes), but they were expensive (>1$B).  I wouldn’t shut up about how 
idiotic this was, especially
given that NetBeans was a much better company with a much better product.  I 
was effectively asked
“If we buy both, will you shut up?”.  I said OK, Forté crashed and burned, 
NetBeans sailed on.

You should have charged Sun more.  :-)

> On Feb 6, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:
> 
> We’re implicitly keeping the Sun flag flying. :-)
> 
> Gj
> 
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 22:27, James Gosling  wrote:
> 
>> That was a really nice talk!  Thanks for doing it!
>> 
 On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 10:54 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
 wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Several of us on the mailing list were at FOSDEM in Brussel yesterday
> (Neil, Jan Lahoda, Martin Entlicher, Patrik Karlstrom) and it was a
 pretty
> good event -- I think we should treat FOSDEM as a place where we can
>> get
> together every year and share new insights etc around NetBeans.
> 
> One of the talks was by me, specifically about the state and direction
>> of
> NetBeans, it takes about 20 minutes, take a look here:
> 
> https://mirror.cyberbits.eu/fosdem/2020/UD2.119/fromoracleapache.webm
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gj
 
 
 
 
>> 
>> 
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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-06 Thread Peter Kovacs
Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
get a notification if you change something ;)

Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:

cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx

In the repo there is

cnd.debugger.common2
cnd.debugger.gdb2

maybe similar case?

All the best

Peter

On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to build.
>
> where do I find the following definition?
>
> netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
> org.netbeans.libs.clank
>
> It is not at the given location.
>
> Same message different location:
>
> /netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
> exist:
>
> first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
> ant via commandline.
>
>
> I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
> Or can I config something?
>
> Doku would be also fine. :)
>
> Thanks any help.
>
> On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
>> Get the code to compile. :-)
>>
>> That's what I'm working on now.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>
>>> What are the tasks to do?
>>>
>>> I help if I can.
>>>
>>> On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
 You can use openbeans.org.

 Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork
 right now:

 https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans

 Gj

 On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
>>> birger...@gmail.com>
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
> Netbeans.
>
> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support
> Apache Netbeans?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Birger
>
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Re: Toolbar grips for FlatLaf

2020-02-06 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
IMHO, I think its better without the horizontal lines. It is a flat LaF 
aster all.


On 2/6/20 12:46 PM, tygrysek HD wrote:

Can you look at that:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g7qmgrsngixcp04/Metal_and_FlatLafLight-02_a.png?dl=0

Maybe there should be a horizontal line between file names?

czw., 6.02.2020, 18:10 użytkownik Alessandro 
napisał:


Hi all,
   I have opened https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1928 to fix my
last
gripe with FlatLaf: toolbar grips.

Testing on MacOS and MacOS Retina would be more than welcome as I do not
own an HiDPI monitor.

Karl Tauber confirmed is OK on Windows with 150% HiDPI.

Would also be awesome to include the PR in next beta.

Regards,
Alex



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Re: FOSDEM talk: "From Oracle to Apache: News from NetBeans Community"

2020-02-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
We’re implicitly keeping the Sun flag flying. :-)

Gj

On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 22:27, James Gosling  wrote:

> That was a really nice talk!  Thanks for doing it!
>
> >> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 10:54 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Several of us on the mailing list were at FOSDEM in Brussel yesterday
> >>> (Neil, Jan Lahoda, Martin Entlicher, Patrik Karlstrom) and it was a
> >> pretty
> >>> good event -- I think we should treat FOSDEM as a place where we can
> get
> >>> together every year and share new insights etc around NetBeans.
> >>>
> >>> One of the talks was by me, specifically about the state and direction
> of
> >>> NetBeans, it takes about 20 minutes, take a look here:
> >>>
> >>> https://mirror.cyberbits.eu/fosdem/2020/UD2.119/fromoracleapache.webm
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Gj
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
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Re: FOSDEM talk: "From Oracle to Apache: News from NetBeans Community"

2020-02-06 Thread James Gosling
That was a really nice talk!  Thanks for doing it!

>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 10:54 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Several of us on the mailing list were at FOSDEM in Brussel yesterday
>>> (Neil, Jan Lahoda, Martin Entlicher, Patrik Karlstrom) and it was a
>> pretty
>>> good event -- I think we should treat FOSDEM as a place where we can get
>>> together every year and share new insights etc around NetBeans.
>>> 
>>> One of the talks was by me, specifically about the state and direction of
>>> NetBeans, it takes about 20 minutes, take a look here:
>>> 
>>> https://mirror.cyberbits.eu/fosdem/2020/UD2.119/fromoracleapache.webm
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Gj
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 


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Re: Toolbar grips for FlatLaf

2020-02-06 Thread tygrysek HD
Can you look at that:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g7qmgrsngixcp04/Metal_and_FlatLafLight-02_a.png?dl=0

Maybe there should be a horizontal line between file names?

czw., 6.02.2020, 18:10 użytkownik Alessandro 
napisał:

> Hi all,
>   I have opened https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1928 to fix my
> last
> gripe with FlatLaf: toolbar grips.
>
> Testing on MacOS and MacOS Retina would be more than welcome as I do not
> own an HiDPI monitor.
>
> Karl Tauber confirmed is OK on Windows with 150% HiDPI.
>
> Would also be awesome to include the PR in next beta.
>
> Regards,
> Alex
>


Re: NetBeans and Windows Defender

2020-02-06 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi

Good catch! It would be nice some implementation on this in 12.0.

Now really need that volunteer committer using Windows.

On 2/6/20 9:34 AM, Alessandro wrote:

Hi all,
   Windows users often report performance issues caused by the Windows
Defender native antivirus software. It would be great if NetBeans could
detect Windows Defender running and warn the users at startup.

Here
https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/blob/master/platform/platform-impl/src/com/intellij/diagnostic/WindowsDefenderChecker.java
is what Intellij IDEA Community does to detect Windows Defender and even
add some folders to the ignore list.

That code could be adapted to have a similar functionality in NetBeans. The
code is Apache 2.0 licensed but cannot be used as it is.

Any Windows based takers?

Regards,
Alex



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NetBeans and Windows Defender

2020-02-06 Thread Alessandro
Hi all,
  Windows users often report performance issues caused by the Windows
Defender native antivirus software. It would be great if NetBeans could
detect Windows Defender running and warn the users at startup.

Here
https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/blob/master/platform/platform-impl/src/com/intellij/diagnostic/WindowsDefenderChecker.java
is what Intellij IDEA Community does to detect Windows Defender and even
add some folders to the ignore list.

That code could be adapted to have a similar functionality in NetBeans. The
code is Apache 2.0 licensed but cannot be used as it is.

Any Windows based takers?

Regards,
Alex


Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?

2020-02-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:08 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 14:49, Martin Weißhaupt
>  wrote:
> > Interesting that you are working on integrating the C/C++ as a native
> > integration. I missed this.
>
> That's only replicating the situation up to 8.2?!
>


Yup.

Gj



>
> > The only roadmap I could find was this and it hasn't been updated for
> some
> > time:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap
>
> Well, we switched to time-based rather than feature-based releases,
> which somewhat superseded that page.  Something that links up current
> and future inbound features, or ideas in progress, might be good.  We
> should be wary of linking them to any particular release though.
>
> One way of thinking is that 11.1, 11.2 and 11.3 are the roadmap to 12.0!
> :-)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Toolbar grips for FlatLaf

2020-02-06 Thread Alessandro
Hi all,
  I have opened https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1928 to fix my last
gripe with FlatLaf: toolbar grips.

Testing on MacOS and MacOS Retina would be more than welcome as I do not
own an HiDPI monitor.

Karl Tauber confirmed is OK on Windows with 150% HiDPI.

Would also be awesome to include the PR in next beta.

Regards,
Alex


Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?

2020-02-06 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 14:49, Martin Weißhaupt
 wrote:
> Interesting that you are working on integrating the C/C++ as a native
> integration. I missed this.

That's only replicating the situation up to 8.2?!

> The only roadmap I could find was this and it hasn't been updated for some
> time:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap

Well, we switched to time-based rather than feature-based releases,
which somewhat superseded that page.  Something that links up current
and future inbound features, or ideas in progress, might be good.  We
should be wary of linking them to any particular release though.

One way of thinking is that 11.1, 11.2 and 11.3 are the roadmap to 12.0! :-)

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?

2020-02-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
You're going to have to start a new thread for a new topic.

And the web page is on GitHub, just provide a pull request if you want to
change anything there.

Gj

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 3:49 PM Martin Weißhaupt
 wrote:

> @Geertjan Wielanga:
> Interesting that you are working on integrating the C/C++ as a native
> integration. I missed this.
>
> The only roadmap I could find was this and it hasn't been updated for some
> time:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap
>
> Maby it would be a good idea to put the roadmap somewhere more prominent.
> On the web page for example...
>
> Slightly OT:
> I'm currently working on updating the Android Plugin for 11.3.
> I would love it if the plugin could also be integrated but I don't know
> what Arsi and Laszlo Kishalmi think about this.
>
> Regards,
> Martin
>
>
> Am Do., 6. Feb. 2020 um 13:49 Uhr schrieb Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
> birger...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Thanks!
> > I'll check 11.2 and the plugin manager. And I'll try to contribute to
> > your repo, Geertjan.
> >
> > Birger
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:45 PM Neil C Smith 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020, 12:14 Birger Skogeng Pedersen, <
> birger...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > But that doesn't really answer my question. Any estimates? Will it be
> > for
> > > > 12.0?
> > > >
> > >
> > > No. Although maybe we could aim for an optional install plugin if
> ready?
> > >
> > > Otherwise, hopefully 12.1.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > > >
> >
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Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?

2020-02-06 Thread Martin Weißhaupt
@Geertjan Wielanga:
Interesting that you are working on integrating the C/C++ as a native
integration. I missed this.

The only roadmap I could find was this and it hasn't been updated for some
time:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap

Maby it would be a good idea to put the roadmap somewhere more prominent.
On the web page for example...

Slightly OT:
I'm currently working on updating the Android Plugin for 11.3.
I would love it if the plugin could also be integrated but I don't know
what Arsi and Laszlo Kishalmi think about this.

Regards,
Martin


Am Do., 6. Feb. 2020 um 13:49 Uhr schrieb Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
birger...@gmail.com>:

> Thanks!
> I'll check 11.2 and the plugin manager. And I'll try to contribute to
> your repo, Geertjan.
>
> Birger
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:45 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020, 12:14 Birger Skogeng Pedersen, 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > But that doesn't really answer my question. Any estimates? Will it be
> for
> > > 12.0?
> > >
> >
> > No. Although maybe we could aim for an optional install plugin if ready?
> >
> > Otherwise, hopefully 12.1.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > >
>
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build failure on cnd lib.clank does not exist (was: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?)

2020-02-06 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to build.

where do I find the following definition?

netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
org.netbeans.libs.clank

It is not at the given location.

Same message different location:

/netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
exist:

first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
ant via commandline.


I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
Or can I config something?

Doku would be also fine. :)

Thanks any help.

On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

> Get the code to compile. :-)
>
> That's what I'm working on now.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>
>> What are the tasks to do?
>>
>> I help if I can.
>>
>> On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>> You can use openbeans.org.
>>>
>>> Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork
>>> right now:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
>> birger...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,


 Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
 projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
 eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
 Netbeans.

 But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
 some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
 plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support
 Apache Netbeans?


 Best regards,
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Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?

2020-02-06 Thread Birger Skogeng Pedersen
Thanks!
I'll check 11.2 and the plugin manager. And I'll try to contribute to
your repo, Geertjan.

Birger

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:45 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020, 12:14 Birger Skogeng Pedersen, 
> wrote:
>
> > But that doesn't really answer my question. Any estimates? Will it be for
> > 12.0?
> >
>
> No. Although maybe we could aim for an optional install plugin if ready?
>
> Otherwise, hopefully 12.1.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
> >

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Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?

2020-02-06 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020, 12:14 Birger Skogeng Pedersen, 
wrote:

> But that doesn't really answer my question. Any estimates? Will it be for
> 12.0?
>

No. Although maybe we could aim for an optional install plugin if ready?

Otherwise, hopefully 12.1.

Best wishes,

Neil

>


Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?

2020-02-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Well, you can use the 8.2 C/C++ plugin in 11.2, right now, just use the
Plugin Manager to install it.

Re native integration that I'm working on -- it's a lot of work, plus 12.0
is more or less a consolidation release and not for the inclusion of major
new features. It will have to be after that at some point.

Gj

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:14 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen 
wrote:

> Thanks, Geertjan. I'll keep an eye on it. Won't be able to contribute
> until in at least a week or to.
>
> But that doesn't really answer my question. Any estimates? Will it be for
> 12.0?
>
> Birger
>
>
> Birger
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:40 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> > You can use openbeans.org.
> >
> > Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork
> > right now:
> >
> > https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
> birger...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > > Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
> > > projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
> > > eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
> > > Netbeans.
> > >
> > > But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
> > > some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
> > > plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support
> > > Apache Netbeans?
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Birger
> > >
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Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?

2020-02-06 Thread Birger Skogeng Pedersen
Thanks, Geertjan. I'll keep an eye on it. Won't be able to contribute
until in at least a week or to.

But that doesn't really answer my question. Any estimates? Will it be for 12.0?

Birger


Birger

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:40 PM Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:
>
> You can use openbeans.org.
>
> Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork
> right now:
>
> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
> > projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
> > eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
> > Netbeans.
> >
> > But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
> > some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
> > plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support
> > Apache Netbeans?
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Birger
> >
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Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?

2020-02-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Get the code to compile. :-)

That's what I'm working on now.

Gj

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> What are the tasks to do?
>
> I help if I can.
>
> On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > You can use openbeans.org.
> >
> > Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork
> > right now:
> >
> > https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
> birger...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
> >> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
> >> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
> >> Netbeans.
> >>
> >> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
> >> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
> >> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support
> >> Apache Netbeans?
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Birger
> >>
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Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?

2020-02-06 Thread Peter Kovacs
What are the tasks to do?

I help if I can.

On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> You can use openbeans.org.
>
> Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork
> right now:
>
> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
>> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
>> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
>> Netbeans.
>>
>> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
>> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
>> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support
>> Apache Netbeans?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Birger
>>
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Re: When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?

2020-02-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
You can use openbeans.org.

Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork
right now:

https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans

Gj

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
> Netbeans.
>
> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support
> Apache Netbeans?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Birger
>
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When can we expect to use the C++ plugin, and how can you tell?

2020-02-06 Thread Birger Skogeng Pedersen
Hi,


Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
Netbeans.

But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support
Apache Netbeans?


Best regards,
Birger

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Re: Update centers based on mirrors are a nightmare to support in an enterprise environment

2020-02-06 Thread Andreas Sewe
Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> I'm not sure what the solution is.

FYI, the Eclipse Installer (aka Eclipse Oomph) has a "Use mirrors" check
box, which is checked by default and thus likely being using in the vast
majority of installs. The traditional Eclipse "Install New Software
Dialog" doesn't expose such an option, though.

Best wishes,

Andreas

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