Quick Search Provider wizard bug?

[Patrik Karlström]

Being totally new to creating QuickSearchProviders I might be off here.

I noticed that my translation didn't kick in when using this generated
layer.xml file.


http://www.netbeans.org/dtds/filesystem-1_2.dtd";>












So I changed it to the following and got it working.


http://www.netbeans.org/dtds/filesystem-1_2.dtd";>











Will simplify it to
  

Is this a bug that I should file in jira?

/Patrik

Re: Speed of Maven build

[Tim Boudreau]

For larger multi-module projects, I'd tend to suspect that a substantial
chunk of the time is I/O-bound, parsing
XML - build one project with a substantial dependency tree.  How many POM
files both in the project and
under ~/.m2 need to parsed?  It would be interesting to instrument Maven
and get some timings out of that.

My fairly sprawling Antlr-IDE-support +
build-ide-plugins-with-a-compiled-antlr-grammar-and-some-annotations
framework clocks in at 68 pom files (probably 20 of these are projects for
tests to run against and test-support
libraries).  Certainly there are other in-the-ide performance issues
(change the version of one thing in the
dependency management section of the parent POM and plan not to use the IDE
for a few minutes while
scanning the universe brings the IDE to its knees).

It would be worth doing some measurements of.  I'd imagine if that proves
to be a root cause, some sort of
fast and queriable binary cache not unlike those the IDE uses for layer
contents and such in its cache
directory could be very helpful.  The trick would be identifying those
changes to POM files that do *not* require
invalidating the cached POM of every project that depends on it.

The 1.5 second improvement of a warm VM would be helpful on small projects,
but in any large tree of projects
where a build can take several minutes, it's not going to be significant.

I don't know if small monolithic single-pom projects are the common case,
or multi-module projects.  If multi-module
projects are the more common case, the warm-VM approach may not be worth
the engineering effort, given the
things that can go wrong and the effort required to defend against them.
You could have it internally cache and
keep hot information about dependencies to avoid I/O on subsequent builds,
but that could start to have a
substantial memory footprint.

My experience running with, say, -T 8 can have a substantial impact on
build times, but it appears not to take
into account test dependencies when sorting the projects into a build
order, so if you run tests, at some point
you wind up running against something that is in the process of being built
and it crashes.

-Tim

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 4:10 PM Jesse Glick  wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 1:30 AM Jaroslav Tulach
>  wrote:
> > Hypothesis: Probably different Ant and Maven integration into the
> NetBeans IDE.
> > While Ant is executed in the same JVM as the IDE in an isolated
> classloader,
> > Maven is probably always started as a separate process.
>
> Yes this likely accounts for a lot of the difference.
>
> For a regular edit-test-edit-test cycle you can use the misleadingly
> named “compile on save” feature to save time, but in the case of Maven
> projects it still does launch `mvn`, just with a minimal set of mojos.
> At one point Maven CoS used the IDE’s built-in test runner
> (incidentally implemented with in-JVM Ant), just passing along the
> classpath introspected from the POM, but we switched to launching
> actual Maven to get better compatibility with projects with subtler
> configuration (IIRC).
>
> At any rate, I like the idea of reusing a JVM in the style of `mvnsh`
> for repeated Maven invocations in routine developer workflows. It
> would be important to keep not only Maven core loaded, but mojo class
> loaders, since these are often large and expensive to initialize. You
> would have to tune it in various ways, for example
>
> · Shut down automatically after some idle period.
> · Avoid sharing an instance between projects.
> · Run a regular forked `mvn` for executions that smell production-y,
> such as anything using the `clean` or `install` phases.
>
> It is possible that given a warm JVM, we could dispense with any
> special CoS tricks and still get reasonable performance from the stock
> lifecycle up to the `test` phase. It depends in part on the project
> config: if your POM is requesting a ton of plugins run in earlier
> phases (CheckStyle, etc.), there will still be lots of overhead unless
> the IDE passes a bunch of `-DskipSomething` properties.
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Re: Speed of Maven build

[Jesse Glick]

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 1:30 AM Jaroslav Tulach
 wrote:
> Hypothesis: Probably different Ant and Maven integration into the NetBeans 
> IDE.
> While Ant is executed in the same JVM as the IDE in an isolated classloader,
> Maven is probably always started as a separate process.

Yes this likely accounts for a lot of the difference.

For a regular edit-test-edit-test cycle you can use the misleadingly
named “compile on save” feature to save time, but in the case of Maven
projects it still does launch `mvn`, just with a minimal set of mojos.
At one point Maven CoS used the IDE’s built-in test runner
(incidentally implemented with in-JVM Ant), just passing along the
classpath introspected from the POM, but we switched to launching
actual Maven to get better compatibility with projects with subtler
configuration (IIRC).

At any rate, I like the idea of reusing a JVM in the style of `mvnsh`
for repeated Maven invocations in routine developer workflows. It
would be important to keep not only Maven core loaded, but mojo class
loaders, since these are often large and expensive to initialize. You
would have to tune it in various ways, for example

· Shut down automatically after some idle period.
· Avoid sharing an instance between projects.
· Run a regular forked `mvn` for executions that smell production-y,
such as anything using the `clean` or `install` phases.

It is possible that given a warm JVM, we could dispense with any
special CoS tricks and still get reasonable performance from the stock
lifecycle up to the `test` phase. It depends in part on the project
config: if your POM is requesting a ton of plugins run in earlier
phases (CheckStyle, etc.), there will still be lots of overhead unless
the IDE passes a bunch of `-DskipSomething` properties.

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Re: Fixing installer to work on macOS 11 Big Sur

[Neil C Smith]

On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 20:26, John Mc  wrote:
> I could make the change locally in the distpreparation folder, and then 
> locally build the installer again and do a PR to fix it for 12.2 moving 
> forward?
>
> That's probably the simplest solution, if that's allowed?

This is only affecting source files that are used for building the
installers locally isn't it?  In which case, if the required steps,
including the required patch, are documented somewhere it's probably
the better option.  Triggering a new build of the release branch off
of a new git hash would change the build version of all IDE modules.

As long as what the installer installs is demonstrably identical to
what you get from building the source release (git hash important
there), then IMO I think we're OK.  At least, the better of the two
awkward options! :-)

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: Fixing installer to work on macOS 11 Big Sur

[John Mc]

I could make the change locally in the distpreparation folder, and then
locally build the installer again and do a PR to fix it for 12.2 moving
forward?

That's probably the simplest solution, if that's allowed?

Regards

John

On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 20:24, Neil C Smith  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020, 20:11 John Mc,  wrote:
>
>> I assume, the correct approach will be to create a PR against the branch
>> "release121" and kick off the Jenkins job(
>> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release121/)
>> again, correct?
>>
>
> We can't add to the release branch and do another build without another
> release vote. Any other options? Given not a released OS yet, a fix for
> 12.2?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
>>

Re: Fixing installer to work on macOS 11 Big Sur

[Neil C Smith]

On Thu, 3 Sep 2020, 20:11 John Mc,  wrote:

> I assume, the correct approach will be to create a PR against the branch
> "release121" and kick off the Jenkins job(
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release121/)
> again, correct?
>

We can't add to the release branch and do another build without another
release vote. Any other options? Given not a released OS yet, a fix for
12.2?

Best wishes,

Neil

>

Re: [CANCELLED] [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer

[John Mc]

Hi,

Due to some issues with the installer working out the correct JDK to use
for some users, I'm gonna cancel this vote and look to provide an updated
installer in a few days time.

Regards

John

On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 02:15, Carl Mosca  wrote:

> +1 worked for me
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:05 PM Scott Palmer  wrote:
>
> > I forgot to add that I just might be participating in an Apple Beta
> > program, that I can’t talk about here.
> >
> > > On Sep 2, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Scott Palmer  wrote:
> > >
> > > -1 Failed for me.  Thinks I don’t have Java. Got a “No Java found”
> after
> > I clicked to allow the installer to run program"
> > >
> > > 
> > > I clearly do..
> > >
> > >  » ls /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines
> > > jdk-11.0.2.jdk   jdk-14.0.1.jdk   jdk-15.jdk
> >jdk1.8.0_202.jdk liberica-jdk-14-full.jdk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Sep 2, 2020, at 2:12 PM, John Mc   > mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.0 Mac OSX installer
> > >>
> > >> Primary voting artefact:
> > >>
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
> > <
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
> > >
> > >>
> > >> KEYS file:
> > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> > >>
> > >> PGP signature file:
> > >>
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> > >>
> > >> SHA512 checksum file
> > >>
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> > >>
> > >> Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> > >>
> >
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release121/13/
> > >>
> > >> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and
> > -1 as
> > >> usual.
> > >> Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans PMC
> > >> member.
> > >>
> > >> Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer will be released if and when
> this
> > >> vote passes.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> John
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Carl J. Mosca
>

Re: Fixing installer to work on macOS 11 Big Sur

[John Mc]

Hi Christian,

Yeah I just checked it there myself and got the same results.

I'll be closing that vote thread soon.

@Neil C Smith  Quick one for you, seems later mac os
versions are causing problems, I need to update the following file:
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/blob/35c435706b941e2fa03ef0ce6daefcaaa454e575/nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/dmg/distribution-nbide.dist#L69

I assume, the correct approach will be to create a PR against the branch
"release121" and kick off the Jenkins job(
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release121/)
again, correct?

Regards

John

On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 15:31, Christian Oyarzun  wrote:

> As Scott has pointed out on the VOTE thread. The current Java detection
> will not work on the upcoming version of macOS since the + option has been
> removed.
>
> I believe removing the version flag should produce the same result as
> specifying 1.8+. I.e the newest version installed on the machine.
>
> % /usr/libexec/java_home --version 1.8+ --failfast
> /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/amazon-corretto-11.jdk/Contents/Home
> % /usr/libexec/java_home --failfast
> /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/amazon-corretto-11.jdk/Contents/Home
> % ls /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines
> amazon-corretto-11.jdk amazon-corretto-8.jdk
>
>
> --Christian
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.1 Linux installer

[Glenn Holmer]

On 9/2/20 9:14 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:

This is the vote thread for the Linux installer for Apache NetBeans
12.1.  Before voting please check that the signature and checksum are
correct, that the installer is functional, and that it correctly
installs Apache NetBeans 12.1. NB. amongst other checks, see that the
module versions output to IDE log include the right git hash for the
release.


+1 (binding)

Verified sha512sum and Neil's crypto sig.
Verified git hash for modules matched that of release121 branch.

Installed with JDK 11 on:

Manjaro 20.0 with KDE
Ubuntu 20.04 with GNOME
Debian "testing" with MATE

All put an icon to both the desktop and the menu, although on Ubuntu 
with GNOME, the desktop icon showed a "generic" icon rather than the 
NetBeans icon and was not functional (double-clicking opened the 
.desktop file rather than launching NetBeans).


--
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."


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Re: A word about Ubuntu Linux

[Patrik Karlström]

Den tors 3 sep. 2020 kl 18:09 skrev Neil C Smith :

> However, what I meant on NetBeans front was that it's fairly simple to
> provide a shell script that would download AppImageTool, download the
> NetBeans zip release, offer the option to download/bundle a JDK of
> choice, and leave the user with a self contained, runnable NetBeans,
> all done on their side.
>
>
That would be cool!

Re: A word about Ubuntu Linux

[Neil C Smith]

On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 13:27, Patrik Karlström  wrote:
> Den tors 3 sep. 2020 kl 11:28 skrev Neil C Smith :
> > Agreed!  I've just started my own NetBeans-derived IDE as an AppImage
> > (with bundled JDK).  At some point I plan to look at a recipe or
> > script for building a NetBeans one.
> >
> Perhaps this creation can assist you, I use it to package platform
> applications in various formats.
> https://github.com/trixon/nbPackager

Thanks!  Had seen a post from you before on this and had a brief look
- must look further sometime.  At the moment I've got InnoSetup and
AppImage setup as part of the Ant build, but particularly with
AppImage I have some curious configuration as there's more than one
executable inside.

However, what I meant on NetBeans front was that it's fairly simple to
provide a shell script that would download AppImageTool, download the
NetBeans zip release, offer the option to download/bundle a JDK of
choice, and leave the user with a self contained, runnable NetBeans,
all done on their side.

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.1 Linux installer

[Jiří Kovalský]

+1 (binding)

Linux Mint 19.1

-Jirka

Dne 03. 09. 20 v 7:13 Kai Uwe Pel napsal(a):

+1

RedHat/CentOS 8.1

Kai

On 9/3/2020 4:18 AM, Junichi Yamamoto wrote:

+1(binding)

Ubuntu 20.04

Thanks,
Junichi

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 11:15 PM Neil C Smith  
wrote:

Hi All,

This is the vote thread for the Linux installer for Apache NetBeans
12.1.  Before voting please check that the signature and checksum are
correct, that the installer is functional, and that it correctly
installs Apache NetBeans 12.1. NB. amongst other checks, see that the
module versions output to IDE log include the right git hash for the
release.

Primary voting artefact :

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-linux-x64.sh__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!JT7_Hx8QQZ9VCnNOuA4bTgjF1Xf25kjnr5g0jaJeS8YCDEy2EyTYtiCHWUr-SfgU1mQ$ 


KEYS file :

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!JT7_Hx8QQZ9VCnNOuA4bTgjF1Xf25kjnr5g0jaJeS8YCDEy2EyTYtiCHWUr-qLuIT_c$ 


Signature file :

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-linux-x64.sh.asc__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!JT7_Hx8QQZ9VCnNOuA4bTgjF1Xf25kjnr5g0jaJeS8YCDEy2EyTYtiCHWUr-MEjqI40$ 


SHA512 checksum :

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-linux-x64.sh.sha512__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!JT7_Hx8QQZ9VCnNOuA4bTgjF1Xf25kjnr5g0jaJeS8YCDEy2EyTYtiCHWUr-IF61sho$ 

e42714e01d01a1daa427cfe854c9d129bcef4b14d906c8c6c744941a39e61658d2ec77240972d69175ebfdd01e29ddfbe2d93c7c1ba9426ef3dfafe8ba3d9813 


  Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-linux-x64.sh

Built using Jenkins job :

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release121/13/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!JT7_Hx8QQZ9VCnNOuA4bTgjF1Xf25kjnr5g0jaJeS8YCDEy2EyTYtiCHWUr-7A5RnMk$ 


This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and
-1 as usual.  Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache
NetBeans PMC member.

Apache NetBeans 12.1 Linux installer will be released if and when this
vote passes.

Thanks all and best wishes,

Neil
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RE: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.1 Windows installer

[Eric Barboni]

+1 (binding)

Tested with Jdk 13 (adoptopenjdk)

Best Regards
Eric

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De : Neil C Smith  
Envoyé : mercredi 2 septembre 2020 16:24
À : dev 
Objet : [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.1 Windows installer

Hi All,

This is the vote thread for the Windows installer for Apache NetBeans 12.1.  
Before voting please check that the signature and checksum are correct, that 
the installer is functional and signed by ASF, and that it correctly installs 
Apache NetBeans 12.1. NB. amongst other checks, see that the module versions 
output to IDE log include the right git hash for the release.

Primary voting artefact :

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-windows-x64.exe

KEYS file :

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS

Signature file :

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-windows-x64.exe.asc

SHA512 checksum :

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-windows-x64.exe.sha512

3a889e520c387a93269ea5acf2c79303304bf3fe48d13420dc06ddf9dc6bd0a63619eac35d4e57b1bf1c89f554dba08fa8ec2183b2a7bed4ce07a12684e3bc35
 Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-windows-x64.exe


Built using the following Jenkins job, then signed by ASF code signing :

https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release121/13/

This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and
-1 as usual.  Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans 
PMC member.

Apache NetBeans 12.1 Windows installer will be released if and when this vote 
passes.

Thanks all and best wishes,

Neil
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Fixing installer to work on macOS 11 Big Sur

[Christian Oyarzun]

As Scott has pointed out on the VOTE thread. The current Java detection
will not work on the upcoming version of macOS since the + option has been
removed.

I believe removing the version flag should produce the same result as
specifying 1.8+. I.e the newest version installed on the machine.

% /usr/libexec/java_home --version 1.8+ --failfast
/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/amazon-corretto-11.jdk/Contents/Home
% /usr/libexec/java_home --failfast
/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/amazon-corretto-11.jdk/Contents/Home
% ls /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines
amazon-corretto-11.jdk amazon-corretto-8.jdk


--Christian

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer

[Scott Palmer]

I see Richard had the same experience, so it looks like this is something that 
needs to be addressed or the installers will fail for everyone on the next 
macOS release.
I can sort of understand why the ‘+’ option might have been removed.  Recent 
Java releases are not backwards compatible to the same extent as Java 8 and 
earlier, so having newer than -v 1.8 can easily break things. (e.g. modules 
need to be explicitly added in 9, the modules aren’t even present in 11, etc.)


Scott

> On Sep 3, 2020, at 2:08 AM, John Mc  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> (Just created a separate thread to keep the vote thread clean)
> 
> I've found where that error message could be generated from[1].
> 
> Can you run the following 2 commands and if possible provide their output:
> 
> ls /usr/libexec/java_home
> and
> 
> /usr/libexec/java_home --version 1.8+ --failfast
> 
> [1]:
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/blob/35c435706b941e2fa03ef0ce6daefcaaa454e575/nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/dmg/distribution-nbide.dist#L69
> 
> Regards
> 
> John
> 
> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 02:15, Carl Mosca  wrote:
> 
>> +1 worked for me
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:05 PM Scott Palmer  wrote:
>> 
>>> I forgot to add that I just might be participating in an Apple Beta
>>> program, that I can’t talk about here.
>>> 
 On Sep 2, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Scott Palmer  wrote:
 
 -1 Failed for me.  Thinks I don’t have Java. Got a “No Java found”
>> after
>>> I clicked to allow the installer to run program"
 
 
 I clearly do..
 
 » ls /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines
 jdk-11.0.2.jdk   jdk-14.0.1.jdk   jdk-15.jdk
>>>   jdk1.8.0_202.jdk liberica-jdk-14-full.jdk
 
 
 
> On Sep 2, 2020, at 2:12 PM, John Mc > >> mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.0 Mac OSX installer
> 
> Primary voting artefact:
> 
>>> 
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
>>> <
>>> 
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
 
> 
> KEYS file:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> 
> PGP signature file:
> 
>>> 
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> 
> SHA512 checksum file
> 
>>> 
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> 
> Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> 
>>> 
>> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release121/13/
> 
> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and
>>> -1 as
> usual.
> Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans PMC
> member.
> 
> Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer will be released if and when
>> this
> vote passes.
> 
> Regards
> 
> John
 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Carl J. Mosca
>> 


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer

[Jeremy Cavanagh]

+1

*  Checked dmg against SHA512 it worked fine (after removing all the 
spaces in the in the provided checksum)

*  Installer ran smoothly with no problems
*  Indexed local and remote maven repos no problem
*  Built and ran maven JavaFX projects (slight problems here, could not 
install JavaFX for macOS plugin from Tools > Plugins kept generating 
checksum errors) However, in the new project window activate worked fine)


Once again congratulations to everyone involved, I don't know how you do 
it (if I did I would try and help).


Regards & Chears to everyone

Jeremy

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Re: A word about Ubuntu Linux

[Patrik Karlström]

Den tors 3 sep. 2020 kl 11:28 skrev Neil C Smith :

> On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 06:42, Stephen Parry  wrote:
> > I am no expert on Snap - but my experience so far has been pretty
> uniformly bad, especially for development tools.
>
> Agreed!  I've just started my own NetBeans-derived IDE as an AppImage
> (with bundled JDK).  At some point I plan to look at a recipe or
> script for building a NetBeans one.
>
>
Perhaps this creation can assist you, I use it to package platform
applications in various formats.
https://github.com/trixon/nbPackager

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer

[Scott Palmer]

ls -l /usr/libexec/java_home
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  138832  1 Jan  2020 /usr/libexec/java_home

Ah think I see the issue.  Without the ‘+’ it works...

/usr/libexec/java_home --version 1.8 --failfast
/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.8.0_202.jdk/Contents/Home

With the ‘+’ I get:
/usr/libexec/java_home --version 1.8+ --failfast
The operation couldn’t be completed. Unable to locate a Java Runtime that 
supports (null).
Please visit http://www.java.com for information on installing Java.

Perhaps a fix would mean using the —xml option and parsing out the most 
appropriete JDK path?

/usr/libexec/java_home --help 
Usage: java_home [options...]
Returns the path to a Java home directory from the current user's settings.

Options:
[-v/--version   ]   Filter versions (as if JAVA_VERSION had 
been set in the environment).
[-a/--arch  ]  Filter architecture (as if JAVA_ARCH had 
been set in the environment).
[-F/--failfast]  Fail when filters return no JVMs, do not 
continue with default.
[   --exec   ...]   Execute the $JAVA_HOME/bin/ with 
the remaining arguments.
[-X/--xml]   Print full JVM list and additional data as 
XML plist.
[-V/--verbose]   Print full JVM list with architectures.
[-h/--help]  This usage information.


Regards,

Scott

> On Sep 3, 2020, at 2:08 AM, John Mc  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> (Just created a separate thread to keep the vote thread clean)
> 
> I've found where that error message could be generated from[1].
> 
> Can you run the following 2 commands and if possible provide their output:
> 
> ls /usr/libexec/java_home
> and
> 
> /usr/libexec/java_home --version 1.8+ --failfast
> 
> [1]:
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/blob/35c435706b941e2fa03ef0ce6daefcaaa454e575/nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/dmg/distribution-nbide.dist#L69
> 
> Regards
> 
> John
> 
> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 02:15, Carl Mosca  wrote:
> 
>> +1 worked for me
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:05 PM Scott Palmer  wrote:
>> 
>>> I forgot to add that I just might be participating in an Apple Beta
>>> program, that I can’t talk about here.
>>> 
 On Sep 2, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Scott Palmer  wrote:
 
 -1 Failed for me.  Thinks I don’t have Java. Got a “No Java found”
>> after
>>> I clicked to allow the installer to run program"
 
 
 I clearly do..
 
 » ls /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines
 jdk-11.0.2.jdk   jdk-14.0.1.jdk   jdk-15.jdk
>>>   jdk1.8.0_202.jdk liberica-jdk-14-full.jdk
 
 
 
> On Sep 2, 2020, at 2:12 PM, John Mc > >> mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.0 Mac OSX installer
> 
> Primary voting artefact:
> 
>>> 
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
>>> <
>>> 
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
 
> 
> KEYS file:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> 
> PGP signature file:
> 
>>> 
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> 
> SHA512 checksum file
> 
>>> 
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> 
> Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> 
>>> 
>> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release121/13/
> 
> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and
>>> -1 as
> usual.
> Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans PMC
> member.
> 
> Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer will be released if and when
>> this
> vote passes.
> 
> Regards
> 
> John
 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Carl J. Mosca
>> 


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer

[Richard Reader]

-1 Failed for me also. Just to add that I’m participating in an Apple Public 
Beta and also have a range of JDKs available
❯ ls /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines
adoptopenjdk-10.jdk adoptopenjdk-11.jdk adoptopenjdk-12.jdk 
adoptopenjdk-13.jdk adoptopenjdk-14.jdk adoptopenjdk-8.jdk  
adoptopenjdk-9.jdk  graalvm-ce-19.0.2

Cheers,
Richard

> On 3 Sep 2020, at 02:05, Scott Palmer  wrote:
> 
> I forgot to add that I just might be participating in an Apple Beta program, 
> that I can’t talk about here.
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Scott Palmer  wrote:
>> 
>> -1 Failed for me.  Thinks I don’t have Java. Got a “No Java found” after I 
>> clicked to allow the installer to run program"
>> 
>> 
>> I clearly do..
>> 
>> » ls /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines
>> jdk-11.0.2.jdk   jdk-14.0.1.jdk   jdk-15.jdk   
>> jdk1.8.0_202.jdk liberica-jdk-14-full.jdk
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 2:12 PM, John Mc >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.0 Mac OSX installer
>>> 
>>> Primary voting artefact:
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> KEYS file:
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
>>> 
>>> PGP signature file:
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
>>> 
>>> SHA512 checksum file
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
>>> 
>>> Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
>>> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release121/13/
>>> 
>>> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and -1 as
>>> usual.
>>> Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans PMC
>>> member.
>>> 
>>> Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer will be released if and when this
>>> vote passes.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> John
>> 
> 


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Re: Enterprise proxies and mirrors issues when updating

[Neil C Smith]

On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 12:55, Jean-Marc Borer  wrote:
> The problem is that  https://netbeans.apache.org/nb/updates/12.0/
>  redirects to
> mirrors that are not white listed. The list changes too often to be
> maintained by me and accepted by my company.
>
> Is there a list somewhere of those mirrors?

At https://www.apache.org/mirrors/

> Ideally I would like to add a new update center that always points to the
> same domain. netbeans.org and apache.org are already white listed at our
> company.
>
> Any ideas?

If you're really stuck, you could try downloading manually from -

https://downloads.apache.org/netbeans/netbeans/12.0-u1/nbms/

You'll have to go through each cluster.

Or add the updates.xml there as a temporary update centre should work
I think - might need to disable the existing one?

I have to use that link for the RCP harness in my build scripts - the
Ant platform build scripts don't play well with mirrors either.

Note the text at https://downloads.apache.org/ - "Please do not
download releases from downloads.apache.org unless you absolutely have
to!"  But it is there as a fallback when no other choice is available.

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer

[Geertjan Wielenga]

+1

Installer works and installed 12.1 starts without a problem.

Gj

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 1:52 PM Josh Juneau  wrote:

> +1
>
> - Checked SHA512
> - Ran installer without any issues
> - Tested installation
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau
> 
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 1:08 AM John Mc  wrote:
>
> > Hi Scott,
> >
> > (Just created a separate thread to keep the vote thread clean)
> >
> > I've found where that error message could be generated from[1].
> >
> > Can you run the following 2 commands and if possible provide their
> output:
> >
> > ls /usr/libexec/java_home
> > and
> >
> > /usr/libexec/java_home --version 1.8+ --failfast
> >
> > [1]:
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/blob/35c435706b941e2fa03ef0ce6daefcaaa454e575/nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/dmg/distribution-nbide.dist#L69
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 02:15, Carl Mosca  wrote:
> >
> > > +1 worked for me
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:05 PM Scott Palmer 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I forgot to add that I just might be participating in an Apple Beta
> > > > program, that I can’t talk about here.
> > > >
> > > > > On Sep 2, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Scott Palmer 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > -1 Failed for me.  Thinks I don’t have Java. Got a “No Java found”
> > > after
> > > > I clicked to allow the installer to run program"
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > I clearly do..
> > > > >
> > > > >  » ls /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines
> > > > > jdk-11.0.2.jdk   jdk-14.0.1.jdk   jdk-15.jdk
> > > >jdk1.8.0_202.jdk liberica-jdk-14-full.jdk
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Sep 2, 2020, at 2:12 PM, John Mc  > >  > > > mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.0 Mac OSX installer
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Primary voting artefact:
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> KEYS file:
> > > > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> > > > >>
> > > > >> PGP signature file:
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> > > > >>
> > > > >> SHA512 checksum file
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release121/13/
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0,
> > and
> > > > -1 as
> > > > >> usual.
> > > > >> Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans
> > PMC
> > > > >> member.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer will be released if and
> when
> > > this
> > > > >> vote passes.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >>
> > > > >> John
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carl J. Mosca
> > >
> >
>

Re: Enterprise proxies and mirrors issues when updating

[Jean-Marc Borer]

The problem is that  https://netbeans.apache.org/nb/updates/12.0/
 redirects to
mirrors that are not white listed. The list changes too often to be
maintained by me and accepted by my company.

Is there a list somewhere of those mirrors?

Ideally I would like to add a new update center that always points to the
same domain. netbeans.org and apache.org are already white listed at our
company.

Any ideas?

Cheers,

JM

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 11:42 AM Jean-Marc Borer  wrote:

> Hi guys,
> Same story again and again for me: I cannot update Netbeans through the
> update center because it redirects to random mirrors. At our company, they
> filter out everything related to java except for white listed sites. The
> process is long, tedious for me and not always successful to add new sites
> to the list.
>
> Wouldn't it be possible to have an update center that is not relying on
> mirrors so that I can have a single place from which my company allows me
> to download Java items from?
>
> Cheers,
>
> JM
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer

[Josh Juneau]

+1

- Checked SHA512
- Ran installer without any issues
- Tested installation

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau




On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 1:08 AM John Mc  wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>
> (Just created a separate thread to keep the vote thread clean)
>
> I've found where that error message could be generated from[1].
>
> Can you run the following 2 commands and if possible provide their output:
>
> ls /usr/libexec/java_home
> and
>
> /usr/libexec/java_home --version 1.8+ --failfast
>
> [1]:
>
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/blob/35c435706b941e2fa03ef0ce6daefcaaa454e575/nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/dmg/distribution-nbide.dist#L69
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 02:15, Carl Mosca  wrote:
>
> > +1 worked for me
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:05 PM Scott Palmer  wrote:
> >
> > > I forgot to add that I just might be participating in an Apple Beta
> > > program, that I can’t talk about here.
> > >
> > > > On Sep 2, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Scott Palmer  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > -1 Failed for me.  Thinks I don’t have Java. Got a “No Java found”
> > after
> > > I clicked to allow the installer to run program"
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > I clearly do..
> > > >
> > > >  » ls /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines
> > > > jdk-11.0.2.jdk   jdk-14.0.1.jdk   jdk-15.jdk
> > >jdk1.8.0_202.jdk liberica-jdk-14-full.jdk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Sep 2, 2020, at 2:12 PM, John Mc  >  > > mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.0 Mac OSX installer
> > > >>
> > > >> Primary voting artefact:
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> KEYS file:
> > > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> > > >>
> > > >> PGP signature file:
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> > > >>
> > > >> SHA512 checksum file
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> > > >>
> > > >> Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release121/13/
> > > >>
> > > >> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0,
> and
> > > -1 as
> > > >> usual.
> > > >> Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans
> PMC
> > > >> member.
> > > >>
> > > >> Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer will be released if and when
> > this
> > > >> vote passes.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >> John
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Carl J. Mosca
> >
>

Enterprise proxies and mirrors issues when updating

[Jean-Marc Borer]

Hi guys,
Same story again and again for me: I cannot update Netbeans through the
update center because it redirects to random mirrors. At our company, they
filter out everything related to java except for white listed sites. The
process is long, tedious for me and not always successful to add new sites
to the list.

Wouldn't it be possible to have an update center that is not relying on
mirrors so that I can have a single place from which my company allows me
to download Java items from?

Cheers,

JM

Re: A word about Ubuntu Linux

[ehsavoie]

How do you specify 2 targets for snap ? I'd love to have multiple
installations without having to do manual installations.
Emmanuel
--
Emmanuel Hugonnet
http://www.ehsavoie.com
http://twitter.com/ehsavoie


On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 11:27 AM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 06:42, Stephen Parry  wrote:
> > I am no expert on Snap - but my experience so far has been pretty
> uniformly bad, especially for development tools.
>
> Agreed!  I've just started my own NetBeans-derived IDE as an AppImage
> (with bundled JDK).  At some point I plan to look at a recipe or
> script for building a NetBeans one.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: default master

[Neil C Smith]

On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 00:05, Ernie Rael  wrote:
> U. OK, I didn't look carefully enough. I'll rebase my in-progress
> pull requests against "upstream/master". If things change and
> "default/master", becomes the spot, I'll deal with it then.

I'm not sure what default/master is in this context - presumably
equivalent to origin master.  In which case, this is expected.

So I have two remotes in git, origin and upstream - output of git remote -v is

originhttps://github.com/neilcsmith-net/netbeans.git (fetch)
originhttps://github.com/neilcsmith-net/netbeans.git (push)
upstreamhttps://github.com/apache/netbeans.git (fetch)
upstreamDISABLED (push)

The origin repository branches do not pick up changes from upstream
automatically.  So you usually need to pull master from upstream and
push to your origin / default on a regular basis to keep it
up-to-date.

You'll also see there that I have got in the habit of setting push-url
to DISABLED on upstream repositories.

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: A word about Ubuntu Linux

[Neil C Smith]

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 06:42, Stephen Parry  wrote:
> I am no expert on Snap - but my experience so far has been pretty uniformly 
> bad, especially for development tools.

Agreed!  I've just started my own NetBeans-derived IDE as an AppImage
(with bundled JDK).  At some point I plan to look at a recipe or
script for building a NetBeans one.

Best wishes,

Neil

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