Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 22

[Carl Mosca]

[X] yes / +1
[ ] no / -1 (please justify -1)
[ ] binding (member of PMC)

My vote is based on

[X] I have tested the PKG installer(s) with Java 21.0.3 Temurin on macOS
14.5

On Sat, May 25, 2024 at 3:11 PM Tamás Cservenák  wrote:

> [X] yes / +1
> [ ] no / -1 (please justify -1)
> [ ] binding (member of PMC)
>
> My vote is based on
>
> [ ] I have built and tested the source with  on  (required)
> [X] I have tested the binary zip with Java 21 Temurin on Fedora 40
> workstation
> [ ] I have tested the  installer(s) with  on 
> [ ] I have tested the Maven artefacts
> [ ] I have tested the VSCode extension
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2024, 16:43 Eric Barboni  wrote:
>
> > This is our first voting candidate for the release of Apache NetBeans 22.
> >
> > Please follow the voting template at the bottom of this email, and note
> > all requirements
> > below for validating sources and convenience binaries before voting.
> >
> > Apache NetBeans 22 constitutes all clusters in the Apache NetBeans Git
> > repository,
> > which together provide the NetBeans Platform (i.e., the underlying
> > application framework),
> > as well as all the modules that provide the Java SE, Java EE, PHP,
> > JavaScript and Groovy
> > features of Apache NetBeans.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Build artefacts are available here :
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/22/
> >
> > They were built by the Jenkins pipeline :
> >
> >
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/release220/14/
> >
> > 
> > We are primarily voting on :
> >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/22/netbeans-22-source.zip
> > SHA512 :
> >
> 636cad619bc316a76f04ba0e92b6669b9d9052e28695020e95ad38dbc1d4647e346a91f1c7314dffdda384178a22d3f4fa64fcb7ddf75ab29fed2e528840
> >
> >
> > KEYS file : https://downloads.apache.org/netbeans/KEYS
> > 
> >
> > Associated with the primary source item we have, generated with the
> > pipeline mentioned above :
> >
> > -- at https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/22/
> >
> > Binaries associated with the source - netbeans-22-bin.zip as well as
> > update content under the nbms folder.
> >
> > -- at
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/22/
> >
> > A PKG installer for macOS built and signed with NBPackage on a PMC
> > member's macOS machine.
> > An EXE installer for Windows signed by a PMC member using binaries
> created
> > during the build process.
> > DEB and RPM packages for Linux signed by a PMC member using binaries
> > created with NBPackage during the build process.
> >
> > -- at
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-vscode-ext/22.0/
> >
> > The VSCode extension signed by a PMC member using binaries created during
> > the build process.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maven Artefacts
> >
> > The Maven artefacts for Apache NetBeans 22 are staged at :
> >
> >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1144/
> >
> > The version is : RELEASE220
> >
> > 
> >
> > Voting requirements
> >
> > Before voting +1 you are required to download the signed source code
> > package, compile it as provided, and test the resulting executable on
> > your own platform, along with also verifying that the package meets
> > the requirements of the ASF policy on releases -
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> >
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> >
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> > 4. Build it using the README provided by the artefact.
> > 5. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
> > the build process and try running it.
> >
> > In addition to checking the sources, you may check the associated
> > convenience binary zip, installers, nbms and maven staging at the links
> > above. You are not expected to check every convenience binary.
> >
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> > that the source being voted on is sufficient to build the relevant
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> >
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> >
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> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans VSCode extension 21.9.9

[Carl Mosca]

+1

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 4:11 AM Martin Balin  wrote:

> Dear community,
> let's update the Apache NetBeans Language Server extension on VSCode
> Marketplace with improved version 21.9.9 mostly in LSP/VSCode code.
> Vote candidate 1, source code artifact:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-vscode-ext/21.9.9/apache-netbeans-java-21.9.9-sources.zip
> The primary voting artifact is the source built from branch
> ‘vsnetbeans_2199`
> SHA-512 sum is:
> 55be95e65d5b0ba9e7ccfc008facb15c3856cbbde26836348e8fc88c40dc275656c458e230121f085161634c93e3d24929ad4bf95ab28c150ecd929edb28ff0b
> apache-netbeans-java-21.9.9-sources.zip
> and PGP signature:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-vscode-ext/21.9.9/apache-netbeans-java-21.9.9-sources.zip.asc
>
> Binary artifacts were built by
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/view/vscode/job/netbeans-vscode/2141/
> In addition to the source ZIP file, we are also voting about convenience
> binary:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-vscode-ext/21.9.9/apache-netbeans-java-21.9.9.vsix
>
> SHA-512 sum:
> 4ca0bccf85be8e9a2f8c44def11b0ad10b0f19c8620f7a44122fff71e781ffe5de69a4a0e85a2aafdcfd69a685ad89ac130a5e15a2660a02c95bacd51862970f
> apache-netbeans-java-21.9.9.vsix
> PGP signature:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-vscode-ext/21.9.9/apache-netbeans-java-21.9.9.vsix.asc
>
> The binary has been produced by the same job run, from the same commit.
> Build from source code artifact, unzip then cd into root of sources:
> $ ant build
> $ cd java/java.lsp.server
> $ ant build-vscode-ext -Dvsix.version=21.9.9
>
> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and -1
> as usual. Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans
> PMC member.
>
> Thank you,
> Martin Balín



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Carl J. Mosca

Fwd: [NOTICE] Apache NetBeans 21 release candidate 2 available for testing

[Carl Mosca]

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From: Carl Mosca 
Date: Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [NOTICE] Apache NetBeans 21 release candidate 2 available for
testing
To: Neil C Smith 


Thank you Neil.

It installed and ran nicely on a MacBook Pro M2 running Sonoma 14.3 Zulu
JDK 21.

Created, built, and ran a demo app.  No issues.

Thank you for all your efforts.

Regards,
Carl

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 6:08 AM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 17:42, Neil C Smith  wrote:
> > The second release candidate build for Apache NetBeans 21 is available
> > (links below).
>
> I've built, signed and uploaded a macOS installer for 21-rc2 to the
> following link -
>
> https://nightlies.apache.org/netbeans/candidate/installers/
>
> Testing would be appreciated.  This includes updates to sign the new
> FlatLaf native libraries for macOS, so checking these function
> correctly and don't lead to any warnings would be good.
>
> The installer will install alongside a release install, and I've
> changed the name to "ASF NetBeans RC" so you can tell which .app is
> which! :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: [HELP WANTED] Testing new macOS installer

[Carl Mosca]

On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 10:33 AM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 at 15:17, Carl Mosca  wrote:
> > For me it created "Apache NetBeans" in the Applications folder (as
> opposed to /Applications/NetBeans).  Previously, the NetBeans version was
> part of the name.
>
> Yes, this is also part of supporting in-place upgrading.  The
> NBPackage-based Linux packages already do this.  As do all of the
> community installers built with NBPackage that include a local JDK.
>

Gone are the days of multiple versions?



> --
Regards,
Carl

Re: [HELP WANTED] Testing new macOS installer

[Carl Mosca]

For me it created "Apache NetBeans" in the Applications folder (as opposed
to /Applications/NetBeans).  Previously, the NetBeans version was part of
the name.

I created a project in Desktop to see if it would ask for permission which
it did nicely.

I am curious about the lack of folks and/or resources to produce this
(guessing I missed a discussion).

Regards,
Carl

On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 10:03 AM James Ostrowick 
wrote:

> Hi,
> Can confirm it works fine on a MBP 2021 ARM running Ventura 13.5.
> Installed with no issues
>
> The behaviour is slightly different from before where it would install in
> a folder in applications called “NetBeans” it now just installs in the
> Applications folder.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 10 Aug 2023, at 15:38, Neil C Smith  wrote:
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > Due to a variety of issues with the existing macOS installer (eg.
> > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/6052 ), and also the lack of
> > people who can actually produce it, we're considering moving to an
> > NBPackage produced installer instead.
> >
> > I've uploaded a PKG installer for NetBeans 19-rc4 at
> > https://nightlies.apache.org/netbeans/candidate/installers/
> >
> > Testing and feedback would be appreciated before we commit to shipping
> > this installer for the release.
> >
> > The installer is signed and notarized with the Apache foundation
> > certificates.  It was produced using NBPackage with the following
> > command -
> >
> > ./nbpackage/bin/nbpackage --verbose --type macos-pkg -Pname="Apache
> > NetBeans" -Pversion=19-rc4 -Pmacos.bundleid=org.apache.netbeans
> > -Pmacos.codesign-id="Developer ID Application: The Apache Software
> > Foundation" -Pmacos.pkgbuild-id="Developer ID Installer: The Apache
> > Software Foundation" --input netbeans-19-rc4-bin.zip
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Neil
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 16 DEB package

[Carl Mosca]

+1 - installed nicely on Ubuntu 22.04.1

On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 5:56 AM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 at 10:07, Neil C Smith  wrote:
> > Need one more PMC vote if we're going to release the DEB package.
>
> We are still lacking at least one PMC vote on the DEB package.  I will
> close this vote as unpassed in 24hrs if we don't get the required
> votes, and will take that as a view that there is not enough consensus
> to deliver Linux DEB or RPM packages directly.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 16 macOS installer

[Carl Mosca]

+1

LGTM

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 10:26 AM Giles Winstanley  wrote:

> +1 (non-binding)
>
> Checksum ok, installed ok, imported v15 prefs without any obvious
> issues, usability > v15.
> MacBook Pro (Intel) on macOS Monterey 12.6.1; Adoptium OpenJDK 18.0.2.1
> Also seems fine running on Adoptium OpenJDK 19.0.1, but impacted by
> Gradle 7.6 issues, so staying on JDK18 for now.
>
> Stan
>
>
> On 28/11/2022 23:06, John Mc wrote:
> > Vote for Apache NetBeans 16 macOS installer.
> >
> > Primary voting artefact :
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/16/Apache-NetBeans-16-bin-macosx.dmg
> >
> > SHA512 checksum :
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/16/Apache-NetBeans-16-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> >
> >
> a4294a59335e10975ef42d5b4a8f16a26f98019c22c89ebff81d645a8cdc1a307ce904a06600ecfd5f121307d03c40a755dd1aaeb65b9e851ac0534f9cdb6970
> >
> > KEYS file :
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> >
> > PGP signature file :
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/16/Apache-NetBeans-16-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> >
> > Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> >
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release160/11/
> >
> > This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and
> > -1 as usual. Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache
> > NetBeans PMC member.
> >
> > This vote is dependent on the main Apache NetBeans 16 release vote
> passing.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
>
>
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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 15 macOS Installer

[Carl Mosca]

Thank you...great job all on another NB release effort!!

On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 1:45 PM John Mc  wrote:

> The vote on Apache NetBeans 15 macOS Installer is now closed with 3+1
> binding
> vote and 6+1 community members vote.
>
> +1 bindings vote
> Josh Juneau (https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=javajuneau)
> Neil C Smith (https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=neilcsmith)
> John McDonnell (https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=johnmcdonnell
> )
>
> +1 community vote
> Carl Mosca
> Alexander Kronenwett
> Giles Winstanley
> Javier Ortiz Bultron
> David Green
> Chris Luff
>
>
> Thank you!
>
> Regards
>
> John
>


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 15 macOS Installer

[Carl Mosca]

+1

LGTM on M1 running 12.5.1 - sha512 ok

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 6:41 AM John Mc  wrote:

> Vote for Apache NetBeans 15 macOS installer.
>
> Primary voting artefact :
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/15/Apache-NetBeans-15-bin-macosx.dmg
>
> SHA512 checksum :
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/15/Apache-NetBeans-15-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
>
> 153ffe0f5a7feb56e6184ef4519727f9090d9eded4e29ac7e2566a1658773379c93155672100c9b9d70be9f0491ef6c8480d0b67ec0b376f6261e7dbd3e53faa
> 
> Apache-NetBeans-15-bin-macosx.dmg
>
> KEYS file :
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
>
> PGP signature file :
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/15/Apache-NetBeans-15-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
>
> Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
>
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release150/16/
>
> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and
> -1 as usual. Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache
> NetBeans PMC member.
>
> This vote is dependent on the main Apache NetBeans 15 release vote passing.
>
> Regards
>
> John
>


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Re: Netbeans platform support for MacOS M1

[Carl Mosca]

Nothing in particular comes to mind with my M1.  Do you have log files?

Is the app available for testing?

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 1:53 PM John Yeary  wrote:

> I am currently using Azul Zulu Java for M1 projects on Java 8.
>
> https://www.azul.com/downloads/?package=jdk
> 
>
> John Yeary
> 
>   
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even
> though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who
> neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight
> that knows not victory nor defeat."
> -- Theodore Roosevelt
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 1:30 PM Todd Stevenson 
> wrote:
> With m
> > I support an NetBeans platform application that we deploy to windows and
> > MacOS.  I'm getting complaints from MacOS M1 customers that they can't
> get
> > the application to run.  It starts up and nothing is displayed. My
> > application was built with Java 8.
> >
> > What can I tell my customers?  Do I  need to upgrade Java to version 11
> or
> > 14?  Is there a specific version of the JDK/JVM that runs correctly on
> the
> > M1 platform?
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Todd Stevenson
> > todd.steven...@imail.org
> >
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 13 macOS installer

[Carl Mosca]

+1

No issues on Intel or M1


On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 5:27 PM Javier Ortiz Bultron <
javier.ortiz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 Worked fine on Monterrey 12.2.1
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 10:07 AM David Green  wrote:
>
> >  I should have noted Monterey 12.3
> >
> > On Mar 19, 2022 at 9:22:19 AM, David Green  wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > sha512 confirmed
> > > jdk17 (azul)
> > > no issue with security, DMG opens, double-click on .pkg works
> > > selected and loaded user-chosen plug-ins
> > > compiled and built some existing projects
> > >
> > > Thanks for sorting everything out.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 19, 2022 at 5:11:34 AM, John Mc 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> This has been a lot longer than I wanted as I got caught up with work,
> > but
> > >> here is the updated macOS installer for Apache NetBeans 13.
> > >>
> > >> Primary voting artefact :
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/13/Apache-NetBeans-13-bin-macosx.dmg
> > >>
> > >> SHA512 checksum :
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/13/Apache-NetBeans-13-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> 68cd93b697b8fa02013d4ab69f773a93c3c42f92498578470af6d808179d292649b85bdb946a9bc75d9cc94aba3d4c8e0d0a3eb3fee565ab390810ad7b609b49
> > >> Apache-NetBeans-13-bin-macosx.dmg
> > >>
> > >> KEYS file :
> > >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> > >>
> > >> PGP signature file :
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/13/Apache-NetBeans-13-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> > >>
> > >> Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release130/20/
> > >>
> > >> NOTE: The distpreparation artefact from this Jenkins job was replaced
> > >> with:
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/13/distpreparation.zip
> > >> The changes can be compared against the PR:
> > >> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3699
> > >>
> > >> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and
> > >> -1 as usual. Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache
> > >> NetBeans PMC member.
> > >>
> > >> This vote is dependent on the main Apache NetBeans 13 release vote
> > >> passing.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> John
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
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Regards,
Carl

Re: Postmortem 13

[Carl Mosca]

Great job all!!

Hard to believe we threw this together four years ago...several have
reminded me to keep it updated...if you want a convenient (albeit
temporary) way to install on macOS and check the integrity from the command
line:

https://github.com/carljmosca/netbeans-macos-bundle

Guessing the installer will be available shortly and this will gather some
dust...not trying to start (another) debate on why such an effort is really
not needed...just trying to help if anyone happens to want it.

Happy Friday

Regards,
Carl


On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 2:13 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> There may be one or two loose ends, but the 13 release cycle has now
> come to an end (aside from Mac OS X installer convenience binary).
>
> Before moving on to the next cycle, i.e., 14, are there any comments
> or thoughts or anything that we need to be aware of or think about for
> next time, any new learnings or insights?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
> PS: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule
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>
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Re: [NOTICE] Apache NetBeans 13 release candidate 1 available for testing

[Carl Mosca]

Thank you for the reminder Gj.  Yes, very nice indeed!!

Carl

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 2:55 AM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> Wow, excellent, no dialogs or popups or nb-javac messages or messages about
> JavaFX.
>
> I simply created my first project (OK, features needed to be enabled, which
> makes sense).
>
> Great initial experience. Really great, big step forward in our evolution.
>
> Please try it, all.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 8:01 PM Neil C Smith 
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 at 18:55, Thomas Kellerer  wrote:
> > >
> > > Not sure if this is a bug or intended.
> > >
> > > The "Find in Projects" now uses a multi-line input field for the search
> > term ("Containing text").
> > > Which has the effect that hitting ENTER inside that field, just creates
> > a new line (even though the field is displayed as a single line) and does
> > not start the search (as it used to be the previous version).
> > >
> >
> > Presumably this - https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3393
> >
> > Please note the PS, and take the discussion off into a new thread,
> thanks!
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >
> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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Re: Happy holidays all

[Carl Mosca]

Happy holidays all!!

Thank you for another great year of NetBeans and Apache.

On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 12:21 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Happy holidays all. :-)
>
> It’s been another great year of quarterly Apache NetBeans releases. In the
> coming year, we’re looking forward to and can expect:
>
> 1. Better start up experience via direct integration of nb-javac into
> Apache NetBeans.
>
> 2. Whole number releases, i.e., the next release will be 13, then 14, then
> 15, etc.
>
> 3. Better start up experience via bundling of OpenJDK with Apache NetBeans,
> which can’t be done as part of Apache because of the licensing of the
> OpenJDK, and will be hosted below, at least:
>
> https://www.codelerity.com/netbeans/
>
> The above developments, all of which have been discussed at length or at
> least mentioned on this list several times, together will put Apache
> NetBeans in a strong position to offer a more complete and coherent basis
> for further contributions and usage in developer communities.
>
> Thanks all for your involvement and support for this project, for some of
> you over many years indeed. :-)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Gj
>
> PMC Chair
>
-- 
Regards,
Carl

Re: log4j and NetBeans

[Carl Mosca]

Actually I was wondering about the find command arguments.

Sorry just asking.

On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 5:14 PM Michael Bien  wrote:

> You misinterpreted what i was trying to say. I did not want to imply
> that NB is vulnerable (i haven't checked). All i said is that log4j1 is
> EOL and has open vulnerabilities. Even if it would not have open CVEs,
> it still would have to be dropped at some point.
>
> On 15.12.21 23:08, Carl Mosca wrote:
> > Is this inaccurate:
> >
> > Note that only the log4j-core JAR file is impacted by this vulnerability.
> > Applications using only the log4j-api JAR file without the log4j-core JAR
> > file are not impacted by this vulnerability.
> >
> >
> >   On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 5:01 PM Michael Bien 
> wrote:
> >
> >> there is value to move eventually from log4j 1 to a maintained lib since
> >> its EOL and has open CVEs too.
> >>
> >> On 15.12.21 19:37, Eric Bresie wrote:
> >>> Is there any value in eventually upgrading to a new log4j (i.e. log4j
> >> 2.15
> >>> or newer)?
> >>>
> >>> Eric
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 10:45 AM John Kostaras 
> >> wrote:
> >>>> Hallo,
> >>>>
> >>>> regarding the latest
> >>>>
> >>>>  - Apache CVE: CVE-2021-44228
> >>>>  <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2021-44228>
> >>>>  - Apache security advisory: Apache Log4j Security Vulnerabilities
> >>>>  <https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/security.html>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> $ find . -name pom.xml | xargs grep log4j
> >>>> $ find . -type f | xargs grep log4j
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> ./contrib/groovy.grailsproject/test/unit/data/projects/completion/.classpath: >>>> kind="var" path="GRAILS_HOME/lib/slf4j-log4j12-1.5.6.jar" />
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> ./contrib/groovy.grailsproject/test/unit/data/projects/completion/.classpath: >>>> kind="var" path="GRAILS_HOME/lib/log4j-1.2.15.jar" />
> >>>>
> >>>> Binary file ./extide/gradle/external/gradle-6.7-bin.zip matches
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> ./extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/external/ant-1.10.8-license.txt:Files:
> >>>> ant-misc-1.10.8.zip ant-1.10.8.jar ant-antlr-1.10.8.jar
> >>>> ant-apache-bcel-1.10.8.jar ant-apache-bsf-1.10.8.jar
> >>>> ant-apache-log4j-1.10.8.jar ant-apache-oro-1.10.8.jar
> >>>> ant-apache-regexp-1.10.8.jar ant-apache-resolver-1.10.8.jar
> >>>> ant-apache-xalan2-1.10.8.jar ant-commons-logging-1.10.8.jar
> >>>> ant-commons-net-1.10.8.jar ant-jai-1.10.8.jar ant-javamail-1.10.8.jar
> >>>> ant-jdepend-1.10.8.jar ant-jmf-1.10.8.jar ant-jsch-1.10.8.jar
> >>>> ant-junit-1.10.8.jar ant-junit4-1.10.8.jar ant-launcher-1.10.8.jar
> >>>> ant-netrexx-1.10.8.jar ant-swing-1.10.8.jar ant-testutil-1.10.8.jar
> >>>> ant-xz-1.10.8.jar
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> ./extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/external/binaries-list:9A3E49630CAF4A67AD6188DC0D9C2D4C52CDF279
> >>>> org.apache.ant:ant-apache-log4j:1.10.8
> >>>>
> >>>> ./extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/external/build.xml:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> ./ide/html.validation/external/binaries-list:F0A0D2E29ED910808C33135A3A5A51BBA6358F7B
> >>>> log4j:log4j:1.2.15
> >>>> ./ide/html.validation/external/log4j-1.2.15-license.txt:URL:
> >>>> http://logging.apache.org/log4j/
> >>>> Binary file ./ide/html.validation/external/log4j-1.2.15.jar matches
> >>>> Binary file
> >> ./ide/html.validation/external/validator-20200626-patched.jar
> >>>> matches
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> ./ide/html.validation/nbproject/project.properties:file.reference.log4j-1.2.15.jar=external/log4j-1.2.15.jar
> >>>>
> >>
> ./ide/html.validation/nbproject/project.properties:release.external/log4j-1.2.15.jar=modules/ext/log4j-1.2.15.jar
> >>>> ./ide/html.validation/nbproject/project.xml:
> >>>>ext/log4j-1.2.15.jar
> >>>> ./ide/html.validation/nbproject/project.xml:
> >>>>external/log4j-1.2.15.jar
> >>>>
> >>

Re: log4j and NetBeans

[Carl Mosca]

Is this inaccurate:

Note that only the log4j-core JAR file is impacted by this vulnerability.
Applications using only the log4j-api JAR file without the log4j-core JAR
file are not impacted by this vulnerability.


 On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 5:01 PM Michael Bien  wrote:

> there is value to move eventually from log4j 1 to a maintained lib since
> its EOL and has open CVEs too.
>
> On 15.12.21 19:37, Eric Bresie wrote:
> > Is there any value in eventually upgrading to a new log4j (i.e. log4j
> 2.15
> > or newer)?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 10:45 AM John Kostaras 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hallo,
> >>
> >> regarding the latest
> >>
> >> - Apache CVE: CVE-2021-44228
> >> 
> >> - Apache security advisory: Apache Log4j Security Vulnerabilities
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >> $ find . -name pom.xml | xargs grep log4j
> >> $ find . -type f | xargs grep log4j
> >>
> >>
> ./contrib/groovy.grailsproject/test/unit/data/projects/completion/.classpath: >> kind="var" path="GRAILS_HOME/lib/slf4j-log4j12-1.5.6.jar" />
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ./contrib/groovy.grailsproject/test/unit/data/projects/completion/.classpath: >> kind="var" path="GRAILS_HOME/lib/log4j-1.2.15.jar" />
> >>
> >> Binary file ./extide/gradle/external/gradle-6.7-bin.zip matches
> >>
> >>
> ./extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/external/ant-1.10.8-license.txt:Files:
> >> ant-misc-1.10.8.zip ant-1.10.8.jar ant-antlr-1.10.8.jar
> >> ant-apache-bcel-1.10.8.jar ant-apache-bsf-1.10.8.jar
> >> ant-apache-log4j-1.10.8.jar ant-apache-oro-1.10.8.jar
> >> ant-apache-regexp-1.10.8.jar ant-apache-resolver-1.10.8.jar
> >> ant-apache-xalan2-1.10.8.jar ant-commons-logging-1.10.8.jar
> >> ant-commons-net-1.10.8.jar ant-jai-1.10.8.jar ant-javamail-1.10.8.jar
> >> ant-jdepend-1.10.8.jar ant-jmf-1.10.8.jar ant-jsch-1.10.8.jar
> >> ant-junit-1.10.8.jar ant-junit4-1.10.8.jar ant-launcher-1.10.8.jar
> >> ant-netrexx-1.10.8.jar ant-swing-1.10.8.jar ant-testutil-1.10.8.jar
> >> ant-xz-1.10.8.jar
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ./extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/external/binaries-list:9A3E49630CAF4A67AD6188DC0D9C2D4C52CDF279
> >> org.apache.ant:ant-apache-log4j:1.10.8
> >>
> >> ./extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/external/build.xml:
> >>   
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ./ide/html.validation/external/binaries-list:F0A0D2E29ED910808C33135A3A5A51BBA6358F7B
> >> log4j:log4j:1.2.15
> >> ./ide/html.validation/external/log4j-1.2.15-license.txt:URL:
> >> http://logging.apache.org/log4j/
> >> Binary file ./ide/html.validation/external/log4j-1.2.15.jar matches
> >> Binary file
> ./ide/html.validation/external/validator-20200626-patched.jar
> >> matches
> >>
> >>
> ./ide/html.validation/nbproject/project.properties:file.reference.log4j-1.2.15.jar=external/log4j-1.2.15.jar
> >>
> >>
> ./ide/html.validation/nbproject/project.properties:release.external/log4j-1.2.15.jar=modules/ext/log4j-1.2.15.jar
> >> ./ide/html.validation/nbproject/project.xml:
> >>   ext/log4j-1.2.15.jar
> >> ./ide/html.validation/nbproject/project.xml:
> >>   external/log4j-1.2.15.jar
> >>
> >> ./java/projectimport.eclipse.core/test/unit/data/71770.classpath:
> >>path="C:/MyProjects/JavaAPI/log4j-1.2.8.jar"/>
> >>
> >>
> /nbbuild/build/license-temp/LICENSE.txt:extide/ant/lib/ant-apache-log4j.jar
> >>Apache-2.0-ant
> >>
> ./nbbuild/build/license-temp/LICENSE.txt:ide/modules/ext/log4j-1.2.15.jar
> >> Apache-2.0
> >> ./nbbuild/build/notice-temp:  - Unnamed - log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.12
> >>
> >>
> ./nbbuild/netbeans/extide/update_tracking/org-apache-tools-ant-module.xml:
> >> 
> >> Binary file ./nbbuild/netbeans/ide/modules/ext/log4j-1.2.15.jar matches
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ./nbbuild/netbeans/ide/update_tracking/org-netbeans-modules-html-validation.xml:
> >> 
> >> Binary file
> >>
> ./nbbuild/netbeans/java/modules/org-netbeans-modules-j2ee-persistence.jar
> >> matches
> >> ./nbbuild/netbeans/LICENSE:extide/ant/lib/ant-apache-log4j.jar
> >>Apache-2.0-ant
> >> ./nbbuild/netbeans/LICENSE:ide/modules/ext/log4j-1.2.15.jar
> >>   Apache-2.0
> >>
> >> ./nbbuild/netbeans/NOTICE:  - Unnamed - log4j:log4j:jar:1.2.12
> >>
> >> In short, I couldn't find any dependencies to log4j 2.x.x, unless I 'm
> >> missing something. In other words, NetBeans is secure by using old log4j
> >> versions.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> JK.
> >>
>
>
> -
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.6 mac OSX Installer

[Carl Mosca]

+1
macOS 12.0.1
Amazon Corretto JDK 17

On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 2:44 AM John Kostaras  wrote:

> +1
> MacOSX 10.13.6
> Oracle JDK 17
>
> JK
>
>
>
> Στις Παρ, 26 Νοε 2021, 6:39 π.μ. ο χρήστης Scott Palmer <
> swpal...@gmail.com>
> έγραψε:
>
> > +1
> > macOS 12.0.1 intel
> > Zulu “full” JDK 17.0.1
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > > On Nov 24, 2021, at 10:30 AM, John Mc 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.6 mac OSX installer.
> > >
> > > Primary voting artefact:
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg
> > >
> > > KEYS file:
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> > >
> > > PGP signature file:
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> > >
> > > SHA512 checksum file:
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-installers/12.6/Apache-NetBeans-12.6-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> > >
> > > Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release126/14/
> > >
> > > NOTE: macOS versions prior to 10.14.4 require the Swift 5 Runtime to be
> > > installed to launch Apache NetBeans
> > >
> > > This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and
> -1
> > as
> > > usual.
> > > Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans PMC
> > > member.
> > > Apache NetBeans-12.6 mac OSX Installer will be released if and when
> this
> > > vote passes.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > John
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >
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> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.5 Mac OSX Installer

[Carl Mosca]

+1

no issues

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 5:53 AM Jaroslav Tulach 
wrote:

> +1 (binding)
>
> Checksum and signature seems OK. I was able to install on BigSur and start
> the IDE. It seems to work OK.
> -jt
>
>
> út 14. 9. 2021 v 23:32 odesílatel Javier Ortiz Bultron <
> javier.ortiz...@gmail.com> napsal:
>
> > +1 Everything worked fine
> >
> > MacOS Catalina 10.15.7
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:25 AM Luff, Chris
>  > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Apache-NetBeans-12.5-bin-macosx.dmg: looks good!
> > >
> > > On 13 Sep 2021, at 18:33, John Mc  > > mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.5 Mac OSX installer.
> > >
> > > Primary voting artefact:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdist.apache.org%2Frepos%2Fdist%2Fdev%2Fnetbeans%2Fnetbeans%2F12.5-installers%2Fmacosx%2FApache-NetBeans-12.5-bin-macosx.dmgdata=04%7C01%7CChris.Luff%40cerner.com%7C48d28c892a554aae7aaf08d976dc9b3f%7Cfbc493a80d244454a815f4ca58e8c09d%7C0%7C0%7C637671512133402366%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=DznKaXBgam0QkNZac%2BgKd17KPWwpoMt%2BtUxptkG1rbQ%3Dreserved=0
> > >
> > > KEYS file:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdist.apache.org%2Frepos%2Fdist%2Frelease%2Fnetbeans%2FKEYSdata=04%7C01%7CChris.Luff%40cerner.com%7C48d28c892a554aae7aaf08d976dc9b3f%7Cfbc493a80d244454a815f4ca58e8c09d%7C0%7C0%7C637671512133402366%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=vxuMdrjgd0y9oVGkYlxdUBxKqMocGjyMdKzzPPOM%2FwI%3Dreserved=0
> > >
> > > PGP signature file:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdist.apache.org%2Frepos%2Fdist%2Fdev%2Fnetbeans%2Fnetbeans%2F12.5-installers%2Fmacosx%2FApache-NetBeans-12.5-bin-macosx.dmg.ascdata=04%7C01%7CChris.Luff%40cerner.com%7C48d28c892a554aae7aaf08d976dc9b3f%7Cfbc493a80d244454a815f4ca58e8c09d%7C0%7C0%7C637671512133402366%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=Y9BDhEWwZzTgcXFCjig5ESSMXjiR8Ljb4N6kyfdiBNU%3Dreserved=0
> > >
> > > SHA512 checksum file:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdist.apache.org%2Frepos%2Fdist%2Fdev%2Fnetbeans%2Fnetbeans%2F12.5-installers%2Fmacosx%2FApache-NetBeans-12.5-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512data=04%7C01%7CChris.Luff%40cerner.com%7C48d28c892a554aae7aaf08d976dc9b3f%7Cfbc493a80d244454a815f4ca58e8c09d%7C0%7C0%7C637671512133402366%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=psyqXwGfVISNlZUxss5etgsKmonjjPbO8R43nTD3vxY%3Dreserved=0
> > >
> > > Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fci-builds.apache.org%2Fjob%2FNetbeans%2Fjob%2Fnetbeans-TLP%2Fjob%2Fnetbeans%2Fjob%2Frelease125%2F11%2Fdata=04%7C01%7CChris.Luff%40cerner.com%7C48d28c892a554aae7aaf08d976dc9b3f%7Cfbc493a80d244454a815f4ca58e8c09d%7C0%7C0%7C637671512133402366%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=9hwAb5KnF1r4ohEQZxkjrQfvgsw8PwWvxkynZVKApd0%3Dreserved=0
> > >
> > > NOTE: macOS versions prior to 10.14.4 require the Swift 5 Runtime to be
> > > installed to launch Apache NetBeans
> > >
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> -1
> > as
> > > usual.
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> > > member.
> > > Apache NetBeans-12.5 Mac OSX Installer will be released if and when
> this
> > > vote passes.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
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Re: Values of os.arch for mac OS (x86-64 and aarch64) and windows aarch64

[Carl Mosca]

AMD64


  *  os.*arch = x86_64

  *  os.*name = Mac OS X

  *  os.*version = 11.5.1


M1

  *  os.*arch = aarch64

  *  os.*name = Mac OS X

  *  os.*version = 11.5.1




On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 7:40 PM Matthias Bläsing 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm preparing an update of JNA for NetBeans and this will bring changes
> in the way the native libraries are packed.
>
> For the platforms:
>
> - mac OS on x86-64 (aka amd64)
> - mac OS on aarch64 (aka M1)
> - Windows on aarch64
>
> I'm looking for the values of the system property "os.arch". It would
> great if people owning such hardware and having 64bit native JDKs
> running on them could provide the value.
>
> java -XshowSettings
>
> outputs it.
>
> java -XshowSettings 2>&1 | grep "  os."
>
> filters the output directly.
>
>
> For the "why"?
>
> Darwin (the base of mac OS) used to have fat binaries (all platforms in
> a single library file), but Apple decided, that they only selectively
> like that (applications were reported to be rejected from app store
> because 32bit object code was found) and thus the feature is being
> phase out from JNA to make it easier to strip the right binaries. For
> NetBeans it means, that the binaries need to be placed in the right
> folder and the requires the value of "os.arch".
>
> Support for Windows and mac OS aarch64 was recently added, which might
> be helpful to get NetBeans running (better?) on these architectures.
>
> Greetings
>
> Matthias
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
>

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Re: Why is NetBeans IDE so slow at capturing output from test case?

[Carl Mosca]

Not at a computer but I am wondering about the maven version(s). Is the
same one being used?  Sorry if I missed that detail.

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 8:24 AM Jeremy Cavanagh 
wrote:

> Hi Lars,
>
> I don't suppose this will be much help. However, I ran your test on my
> system:
>
> MacBook Air Mid 2011
> 1.8GHz Intel Core i7
> macOS 10.14.6
>
> Using:
>
> Product Version: Apache NetBeans IDE 12.4-rc1
> Java: 11.0.10; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.10+9-LTS
> Runtime: OpenJDK Runtime Environment 11.0.10+9-LTS
>
> After several runs I got rounded averages of:
>
> Clean & Build 11.7 s
> Run 2.7 s
> Test 9.7 s
>
> Unfortunately, I no longer have a copy of IntelliJ IDEA so can provide
> no comparison.
>
> Regards
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 25/04/2021 10:15, Lars Bruun-Hansen wrote:
> > In fact about x20 slower than IntelliJ IDEA. But before jumping to
> > conclusions I was hoping for verification from community and - if
> > validated - on some ideas why this might be so.
> >
> > For showcasing the problem I've created a minimal Maven example
> > (attached to [NETBEANS-5592]). It simply prints 10,000 lines of random
> > text to stdout.
> >
> >
> > Project menu "Run"
> > -
> > When the sample application is executed it performs well in both
> > NetBeans IDE and IntelliJ IDEA: The "Output Window" is able to consume
> > the messages at a very rapid pace. (in fact, dare I say, NetBeans IDE
> > is perhaps a little bit faster than IntelliJ IDEA).
> >
> > Project menu "Test"
> > --
> > However, when the same is executed as a JUnit 5 test using Maven
> > Surefire Plugin it performs extremely poorly in NetBeans IDE while
> > IntelliJ IDEA exhibits same behavior as in the non-test case, meaning
> > it is just as fast.
> > (if "mvn test" is instead performed from an OS prompt it performs well)
> >
> >
> > As a result, I've found that for test cases which produce massive
> > amounts of output (I'm looking at you Spring Boot) I need to seriously
> > increase the Maven Surefire timeout
> > (forkedProcessExitTimeoutInSeconds). I don't need to do that in
> > IntelliJ IDEA.
> >
> > More info on [NETBEANS-5592].
> >
> > Any clues?
> >
> > /Lars
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >
> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
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>
>
>
> --
Regards,
Carl

Re: 12.3 constantly freezing

[Carl Mosca]

Platform?  Java  version?


Not seeing this myself but I think more details might help. Sorry if I
missed them.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 6:32 PM Javier Ortiz Bultron <
javier.ortiz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not sure how to provide information about this but something seems of. It's
> using way too much memory even when saving a file. To the point I have to
> kill it.
>
> Didn't have this issue with the last beta I tried.
>
-- 
Regards,
Carl

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans-12.2 Mac OSX Installer

[Carl Mosca]

Yes, I assume it was a typo...was wondering if I missed something.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:48 PM Christian Oyarzun  wrote:

> +1 tested on macOS Big Sur with JDK 11.0.9.
>
> 12.1 reference was probably just a typo.
>
> --Christian
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:22 PM Javier Ortiz Bultron <
> javier.ortiz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Was wondering th same thing.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 7:54 PM Carl Mosca  wrote:
> >
> > > +1 but what's the reference to 12.1?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 8:49 PM Chunyang Wang 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > *Product Version:* Apache NetBeans IDE 12.2
> > > >
> > > > *Java:* 15; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 15+36
> > > >
> > > > *Runtime:* OpenJDK Runtime Environment 15+36
> > > >
> > > > *System:* Mac OS X version 10.15.7 running on x86_64; UTF-8; en_CA
> (nb)
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Chunyang
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:58 AM John Mc 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.2 Mac OSX installer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Primary voting artefact:
> > > > > <
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.2/Apache-NetBeans-12.2-bin-macosx.dmg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > KEYS file:
> > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> > > > >
> > > > > PGP signature file:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.2/Apache-NetBeans-12.2-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> > > > >
> > > > > SHA512 checksum file
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.2/Apache-NetBeans-12.2-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> > > > >
> > > > > Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/21/
> > > > >
> > > > > This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0,
> and
> > > -1
> > > > as
> > > > > usual.
> > > > > Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans
> PMC
> > > > > member.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apache NetBeans-12.2 Mac OSX Installer will be released if and when
> > > this
> > > > > vote passes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carl J. Mosca
> > >
> >
>


-- 
Carl J. Mosca

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans-12.2 Mac OSX Installer

[Carl Mosca]

+1 but what's the reference to 12.1?

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 8:49 PM Chunyang Wang 
wrote:

> +1
>
> *Product Version:* Apache NetBeans IDE 12.2
>
> *Java:* 15; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 15+36
>
> *Runtime:* OpenJDK Runtime Environment 15+36
>
> *System:* Mac OS X version 10.15.7 running on x86_64; UTF-8; en_CA (nb)
>
> Regards,
> Chunyang
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:58 AM John Mc  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.2 Mac OSX installer.
> >
> > Primary voting artefact:
> > <
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
> > >
> >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.2/Apache-NetBeans-12.2-bin-macosx.dmg
> >
> >
> > KEYS file:
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> >
> > PGP signature file:
> >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.2/Apache-NetBeans-12.2-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> >
> > SHA512 checksum file
> >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.2/Apache-NetBeans-12.2-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> >
> > Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> >
> >
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/21/
> >
> > This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and -1
> as
> > usual.
> > Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans PMC
> > member.
> >
> > Apache NetBeans-12.2 Mac OSX Installer will be released if and when this
> > vote passes.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
>


-- 
Carl J. Mosca

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer

[Carl Mosca]

+1 worked for me

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:05 PM Scott Palmer  wrote:

> I forgot to add that I just might be participating in an Apple Beta
> program, that I can’t talk about here.
>
> > On Sep 2, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Scott Palmer  wrote:
> >
> > -1 Failed for me.  Thinks I don’t have Java. Got a “No Java found” after
> I clicked to allow the installer to run program"
> >
> > 
> > I clearly do..
> >
> >  » ls /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines
> > jdk-11.0.2.jdk   jdk-14.0.1.jdk   jdk-15.jdk
>jdk1.8.0_202.jdk liberica-jdk-14-full.jdk
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 2, 2020, at 2:12 PM, John Mc  mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We can vote for Apache NetBeans 12.0 Mac OSX installer
> >>
> >> Primary voting artefact:
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
> <
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg
> >
> >>
> >> KEYS file:
> >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> >>
> >> PGP signature file:
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
> >>
> >> SHA512 checksum file
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.1/Apache-NetBeans-12.1-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
> >>
> >> Built locally using the artefacts found in the Jenkins job:
> >>
> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release121/13/
> >>
> >> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and
> -1 as
> >> usual.
> >> Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans PMC
> >> member.
> >>
> >> Apache NetBeans-12.1 Mac OSX Installer will be released if and when this
> >> vote passes.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> John
> >
>
>

-- 
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Re: How to debug netbeans

[Carl Mosca]

In general, I find that NetBeans alone works nicely for my debugging
sessions.  There are certainly some nice features which I believe makes it
a very practical tool.

I have used JRebel in the past but I must say the company (sold twice I
think) has made things a bit less friendly with respect to licensing.  (We
have cases for which a license file is needed but we have only been
provided ones that expire in about 30 days despite the fact that our
licenses are for one year)

I have been working with the dcevm
 and NetBeans a bit
lately and hotswapping classes works nicely in some current use cases
(remote web applications for example).

The one issue I am seeing is that resources, such as JSF files, are not
automatically reloaded (remotely).

Carl


On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 4:34 AM Jean-Marc Borer  wrote:

> I also kind of disagree with Tim about it un-usefulness of a debugger. You
> can achieve way more that just stepping through the code. You can even
> dynamically add debugging traces without needing to touch the code and this
> he forgets: you cannot add logging statements for code you cannot compile
> yourself such as the JVM for example or other Maven artifacts. Have a look
> as well at tools such JRebel and Yourkit. They are use cases where they
> help you to save a lot of time.
>
> Cheers,
>
> JM
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 7:50 PM Matthias Bläsing  >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I don't think debugging with logging/println statements and debugging
> > are either or. Both are approach that can be taken.
> >
> > HOWEVER, if you are new to programming, learn to use a debugger. While
> > there is learning involved and it is not always the right tool, having
> > it available is a great help.
> >
> > In a past job we had a central staging JavaEE server, that was used to
> > do QS testing with the end users. That server had the jpdw agent loaded
> > and at times it was invaluable to be able to just debug in the testing
> > system with the user reproducing his problem.
> >
> > With a debugger it is much easier to explorer the current runtime
> > environment and in contrast to logging statements, you don't need to
> > know what you want to know before it happens.
> >
> > Contrary to Tims reply a debugger does not require you to single step
> > through code. Line break points are pretty fast, method break points
> > are slower, but can be helpful to get to the offending code quickly.
> >
> > In the end the same advise as in many other cases in IT applies:
> >
> > - Know your tools (also the ones you may not like)
> > - Know when to use which tool
> >
> > Just a second perspective
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, den 06.08.2020, 03:12 -0400 schrieb Tim Boudreau:
> > > I've been developing NetBeans itself and plugins for it for 21 years
> now.
> > > In that time I have run a debugger against NetBeans maybe ONCE, to see
> if
> > > it worked.
> > >
> > > The startup time penalty, and the odds of winding up stepping through
> > code
> > > you actually need to see, rather than marching endlessly through
> > > java.util.Logger's source code and other irrelevant stuff, are
> > > infinitesimal.  Debuggers are a great tool for debugging algorithms you
> > can
> > > isolate in a test or tiny application, or for learning how programs
> work
> > > when you're learning to program.  As a tool for fixing things in huge
> > > applications with deep stacks, they're pretty much useless - way too
> much
> > > distracting noise and way to little signal.
> > >
> > > My suggestion is, learn to love logging statements and
> > > System.out.println().  You can isolate problems quite fast if you do a
> > sort
> > > of logging-binary-search - add a logging statement entering the code
> > where
> > > something goes wrong, and one at a point where that thing probably has
> > > already gone wrong.  If that works as expected, add logging at the
> > midpoint
> > > between those two points.  Still okay at the midpoint?  Add one between
> > the
> > > middle and end - and so forth until you're on the line where things
> > really
> > > do go wrong (usually just narrowing down the scope lets you see it).
> > >
> > > Sorry to be a downer on debuggers, but I can count on one hand the
> number
> > > of times I have learned anything useful from a debugger, and all of
> those
> > > times I could have probably found it faster if I'd just read the code.
> > >
> > > -Tim
> >
> >
> > -
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >
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> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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Re: Zulu with NetBeans

[Carl Mosca]

+1

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 4:06 AM Patrick Musembi 
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020, 09:33 Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > If Azul were to distribute a bundle of NetBeans with Zulu, i.e., the
> bundle
> > would be downloadable from an Azul domain, would we as a community be
> > interested in doing the work of putting that bundle together?
> >
> > It would be a process that would take place once a year, with our
> NetBeans
> > LTS together with whatever the current LTS of Zulu is at that time.
> >
> > We in the NetBeans community would create and test the bundle, and would
> > approve it as a community — sometime after the NetCAT process since the
> > binaries would need to exist for the bundle to be created, so maybe
> simply
> > by approving the bundle in a thread, not as an official vote thread since
> > the bundle would not be an Apache release, of course.
> >
> > Potentially, Azul could create a plugin for updating Zulu after it’s been
> > installed — and put that plugin into our Plugin Portal.
> >
> > This would solve our problem of not having a JDK vendor that provides the
> > complete NetBeans out of the box experience. The bundle would be called
> > “Apache NetBeans Zulu Bundle” and we’d point to it from our download
> page,
> > with statements that it is not an Apache release, etc.
> >
> > With my three hats “Apache”, “NetBeans”, “Azul” on at the same time, this
> > sounds good.
> >
> > Thoughts on this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
> >
>
-- 
Regards,
Carl

Re: Default license header in generated files confuses students (was: Re: The time has come to bd farewell to the license header)

[Carl Mosca]

I don't know that it's confusing (it never was to me) just not
convenient...perhaps due to my own ignorance.

I think of any given license as project, not IDE specific.

Perhaps I should dig a bit further before commenting.

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 1:00 PM Matthias Bläsing 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Am Sonntag, den 31.05.2020, 16:37 + schrieb Kenneth Fogel:
> > Please, please, please get rid of this:
> >
> > /*
> > * To change this license header, choose License Headers in Project
> Properties.
> > * To change this template file, choose Tools | Templates
> > * and open the template in the editor.
> > */
> >
> > My students think its important so refuse to remove it or go to Tools
> > | Templates and delete it there. Its really annoying. If you want to
> > keep it then put it at the end of the file with the added notation
> > Delete Me.
> >
>
> please use speaking subjects. They are not funny and not helpful. I
> updated it to a from my POV better summary.
>
> I don't get your point. License headers are important, the development
> ecosystem shifts to opensouce models (hell, even Microsoft admits that)
> and in that case clear licensing is a base requirement.
>
> If your students don't understand what is written there teach them, I
> understood you are in teaching, so use the oportunity. Just as teachers
> in germany have to consider correct spelling and grammer even in non-
> language subjects, you could make it a point by deducing points for
> invalid license headers.
>
> There is even a description how to "fix" the issue, so if that is to
> hard, maybe programming is not the right direction for the students?
>
> The header can't be placed at the end of the file as convention
> requires it to be at the top. There are projects out there that
> (rightly) refuse to include software without clear license statement.
>
> Maybe this gives this another perspective.
>
> Greetings
>
> Matthias
>
>
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>
>
>
>

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Re: The time has come to bd farewell to the license header

[Carl Mosca]

I am guessing you think it's also OK to cut those tags off pillows that say
"do not remove under penalty of law".

LOL...yes, that message should go, thank you for bring it up.

Carl

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:37 PM Kenneth Fogel 
wrote:

> Please, please, please get rid of this:
>
> /*
> * To change this license header, choose License Headers in Project
> Properties.
> * To change this template file, choose Tools | Templates
> * and open the template in the editor.
> */
>
> My students think its important so refuse to remove it or go to Tools |
> Templates and delete it there. Its really annoying. If you want to keep it
> then put it at the end of the file with the added notation Delete Me.
>
> Ken
>
>

-- 
Carl J. Mosca

Re: Congratulations to Geertjan and Neil, new ASF Members!

[Carl Mosca]

Excellent. Congratulations to you both!!

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:15 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

> It’s a great honor. Neil and I are now “made guys”, where before we were
> “connected guys”.
>
> https://youtu.be/4u5wo9Wx8qw
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 16:10, Itamar Iliuk  wrote:
>
> > Wow. That's amazing news.
> >
> > Congratulations to Geertjan and Neil.
> >
> > Prof. Dr. Itamar Iliuk
> > UTFPR - Ponta Grossa
> > (45) 99836-1827
> >
> >
> >
> > Em qui., 30 de abr. de 2020 às 10:02, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > bdelacre...@apache.org> escreveu:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm pleased to announce that two NetBeans PMC members, Geertjan
> > > Wielenga and Neil C Smith have recently been elected as Members of the
> > > Apache Software Foundation.
> > >
> > > Congratulations and that's well deserved, thank you for all your work
> > > helping our communities!
> > >
> > > See
> > >
> >
> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-software-foundation-welcomes9
> > > for more details and links.
> > >
> > > -Bertrand
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> > >
> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Regards,
Carl

Re: Dedication message for NetBeans 12

[Carl Mosca]

+1

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 6:54 AM Bertrand Delacretaz 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 1:54 PM Sven Reimers 
> wrote:
> > ...I would suggest to put in a dedication "in memoriam Carl Quinn" for
> the
> > 12.0 Apache NetBeans release... what do you think?..
>
> +1, great idea!
>
> -Bertrand
>
> -
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans-11.3 macOS Installer

[Carl Mosca]

+1

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 10:10 AM Arunava Sinha 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Primary voting artifact:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/11.3/installers/Apache-NetBeans-11.3-bin-macosx.dmg
> Built locally from release113 branch using jdk1.8.0_241 on macOS
> Mojave(10.14.6)
>
> KEYS file:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
>
> PG signature file:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/11.3/installers/Apache-NetBeans-11.3-bin-macosx.dmg.asc
>
> SHA512 checksum file
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/11.3/installers/Apache-NetBeans-11.3-bin-macosx.dmg.sha512
>
> Installer build steps:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Installer+Build+Steps
>
> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and -1
> as usual.
>
> Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans PMC
> member.
>
> Apache NetBeans 11.3 macOS Installer will be released if and when this
> vote passes.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Arunava Sinha
>
>
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Re: Fast Feedback Installer : macos1015 and windows users

[Carl Mosca]

MacOS installer seems ok to me on 10.15.3.

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 8:02 AM Eric Barboni  wrote:

> Hi folks
>
> Arunava Sinha did all the preparation of the installer including
> certification / notarization.
>
> Voting mail are almost ready.
>
>
>
> Can we have feedback to see if the binaries are correct so vote can be done
> without being scared of not working certify/nota
>
>
>
>  <
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/11.3/installers/>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/11.3/installers/
>
>
>
> Apache-NetBeans-11.3-bin-windows-x64.exe is ok for windows users (editor
> should be asf) Apache-NetBeans-11.3-bin-macosx.dmg is ok for macos 1015
> users (don't know what happen here)
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: google style guide support

[Carl Mosca]

Interesting. Will give it a look.

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 6:55 PM John McDonnell 
wrote:

> Hi Walter,
>
> I threw together a basic plugin relatively quickly on GitHub for the
> Google Code Style for Java:
> https://github.com/mcdonnell-john/nb-google-java-code-formatter-plugin
>
> You can clone it and build it from there, or the first version should be
> published to Maven Central and downloadable from there in a few hours, and
> then install into your NetBeans 11.2 IDE.
>
> Once installed it should add a project level property setting to enable
> formatting on save.  Note, theres 2 current issues with this version:
> 1. the cursor position is lost on save
> 2. breakpoints are lost on save
>
> I'll try and look into them as I go, and I have 2 open issues on GitHub to
> track these as well. If you decide to try this out, and witness any other
> issues, or have other ideas for enhancement please feel free to raise an
> issue on GitHub?
>
> Its definitely to be considered a work in progress...
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> On 2019/11/13 17:52:44, Thomas Kellerer  wrote:
> > > I would have one question about code style support.
> > > Are you planning to add support of the google style guide for Netbeans
> in
> > > the near future?
> > > We would like to become an IDE independent developer group in here at
> > > Nokia. We really like Netbeans and other major IDEs in here.
> Unfortunately
> > > Netbeans is the only one IDE from the major IDEs that can't support the
> > > google style guide as a common formatting options.
> >
> > You'll probably get better responses if you describe what kind of
> formatting rules you can not configure with the built-in NetBeans Java
> Formatter.
> >
> > (I wasn't even aware that Google hat their own coding style rules)
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> > -
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> >
> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
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> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Carl

Re: Netbeans hangs in Mac since Netbeans 8.2 to now

[Carl Mosca]

Ok I am now slightly more confused.

What does your plugin do that can’t already be done in netbeans?

Will try to look when at a computer next.

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 4:12 AM Peter Cheung  wrote:

> Dear Sir
>   Sorry my bad english, my plugins source is updated in. So if you
> install my plugin in your netbeans, i believe netbeans will hangs in after
> few starts.
> https://peter.quantr.hk/2019/11/netbeans-hangs-in-mac-since-netbeans-8-2-to-now/
>
> Thanks
> From Peter
> 
> From: Geertjan Wielenga 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 7:32 PM
> To: dev 
> Subject: Re: Netbeans hangs in Mac since Netbeans 8.2 to now
>
> Your subject line should be "My plugin hangs in Mac since NetBeans IDE
> 8.2.".
>
> And then you would point to the sources and to the steps to reproduce the
> problem.
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 3:23 AM Carl Mosca  wrote:
>
> > Where can we get additional details?  Perhaps I missed something in the
> > post.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Carl
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 9:19 PM Peter Cheung 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All
> > >Netbeans hangs in Mac since Netbeans 8.2 to now.
> > >
> >
> https://peter.quantr.hk/2019/11/netbeans-hangs-in-mac-since-netbeans-8-2-to-now/
> > > thanks
> > > Peter
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carl J. Mosca
> >
>
-- 
Regards,
Carl

Re: Netbeans hangs in Mac since Netbeans 8.2 to now

[Carl Mosca]

Where can we get additional details?  Perhaps I missed something in the
post.

Regards,
Carl

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 9:19 PM Peter Cheung  wrote:

> Hi All
>Netbeans hangs in Mac since Netbeans 8.2 to now.
> https://peter.quantr.hk/2019/11/netbeans-hangs-in-mac-since-netbeans-8-2-to-now/
> thanks
> Peter
>


-- 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 11.2 macOS Installer

[Carl Mosca]

+1 (changed from -1)

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 6:35 AM Carl Mosca  wrote:

> -1
>  "Can't be opened because Apple cannot check for malicious software"
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 6:26 AM Neil C Smith 
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 09:54, Eric Barboni  wrote:
>> > Sha512 and key from Reema is ok it means this can be released on dist.
>> > Not functional is another point. But Reema can cancel if tester on
>> MacOS found issue.
>>
>> Distribution on dist requires more than that, and we also discussed
>> requiring more ourselves.  The wording that was discussed, that I
>> thought you said you agreed with, said that all voters must verify all
>> checksums and keys (including the additional keys in the installers!),
>> check they function, and verify that they only install artefacts built
>> from the released sources.  I don't see any point in voting on
>> binaries if we're not requiring checks on all those things that the
>> PMC must check.
>>
>> Anyway, let's not hijack the vote thread further on this.
>>
>> I'd like to hear Reema's opinion on pulling and re-voting on macOS
>> installers because of the notarization issue though.
>>
>> Thanks and best wishes,
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
>>
>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Carl J. Mosca
>


-- 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 11.2 macOS Installer

[Carl Mosca]

That may depend on the specific os version. It did not work for me without
doing so.

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 3:46 PM Code Zombie  wrote:

> I am not sure if holding the option key is necessary as macOS will warn you
> anyway after selecting Open from the context menu.
> - Mehdi
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 3:20 PM Scott Palmer  wrote:
>
> > So when you right-click the .pkg and hold Option when selecting “Open”
> > from the context menu, it still doesn’t let you install even though it
> > warns?
> >
> >
> > Geertjan,  what do you mean by “Anything executed from command line will
> > execute like normal” ?
> >
> > For the record opening the .pkg from the command line:
> >
> > open "/Volumes/Apache NetBeans 11.2/Apache NetBeans 11.2.pkg”
> >
> > still won’t allow you to continue.  The only way I am aware of is to know
> > to use the context menu “Open” and hold option while selecting it.
> >
> > Many macOS users will not be aware of this option.  So at the very least
> > these instructions should be on the download page.
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > > On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Carl Mosca  wrote:
> > >
> > > To be clear, I was/am not able to use the installer at all.  I have not
> > > been able to get around the notarization issue.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:51 PM Scott Palmer 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> It actually requires special knowledge and steps to install on macOS
> > 10.15
> > >> without the notarization.
> > >>
> > >> By default there is no option to continue with the install.  You must
> > know
> > >> to open it while holding the Option key only then will there be an
> > option
> > >> to ignore the warning and continue.
> > >>
> > >> The notarizing process is supposed to be quick. I don’t have an Apple
> > >> developer ID, so I don’t know for sure.
> > >>
> > >> Scott
> > >>
> > >>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:12 PM, Geertjan Wielenga 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 6:56 PM Carl Mosca 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Meaning the installer does not work if you have the latest/current
> > >> release
> > >>>> of the OS running.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 'But you can ignore it. "Run anyway" so to speak. It's not that it
> > blocks
> > >>> you, it just warns you and makes it more steps to run potentially
> > harmful
> > >>> software. Anything executed from command line will execute like
> normal,
> > >> and
> > >>> I believe also if you alt-click and select open.'
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/09/03/apple-macos-catalina-notarization-mac-apps/
> > >>>
> > >>> Gj
> >
> >
> > -
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Carl

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 11.2 macOS Installer

[Carl Mosca]

Scott,

I understood that the option was no longer available but I just tried it
using the procedure you outlined and it was successful.

Yes, I would think that *most* MacOS users are not aware that this option
is currently available as I have read conflicting reports.

Carl

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 3:20 PM Scott Palmer  wrote:

> So when you right-click the .pkg and hold Option when selecting “Open”
> from the context menu, it still doesn’t let you install even though it
> warns?
>
>
> Geertjan,  what do you mean by “Anything executed from command line will
> execute like normal” ?
>
> For the record opening the .pkg from the command line:
>
> open "/Volumes/Apache NetBeans 11.2/Apache NetBeans 11.2.pkg”
>
> still won’t allow you to continue.  The only way I am aware of is to know
> to use the context menu “Open” and hold option while selecting it.
>
> Many macOS users will not be aware of this option.  So at the very least
> these instructions should be on the download page.
>
>
> Scott
>
>
> > On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Carl Mosca  wrote:
> >
> > To be clear, I was/am not able to use the installer at all.  I have not
> > been able to get around the notarization issue.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:51 PM Scott Palmer  wrote:
> >
> >> It actually requires special knowledge and steps to install on macOS
> 10.15
> >> without the notarization.
> >>
> >> By default there is no option to continue with the install.  You must
> know
> >> to open it while holding the Option key only then will there be an
> option
> >> to ignore the warning and continue.
> >>
> >> The notarizing process is supposed to be quick. I don’t have an Apple
> >> developer ID, so I don’t know for sure.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:12 PM, Geertjan Wielenga 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 6:56 PM Carl Mosca 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Meaning the installer does not work if you have the latest/current
> >> release
> >>>> of the OS running.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> 'But you can ignore it. "Run anyway" so to speak. It's not that it
> blocks
> >>> you, it just warns you and makes it more steps to run potentially
> harmful
> >>> software. Anything executed from command line will execute like normal,
> >> and
> >>> I believe also if you alt-click and select open.'
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/09/03/apple-macos-catalina-notarization-mac-apps/
> >>>
> >>> Gj
>
>
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>

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 11.2 macOS Installer

[Carl Mosca]

To be clear, I was/am not able to use the installer at all.  I have not
been able to get around the notarization issue.

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:51 PM Scott Palmer  wrote:

> It actually requires special knowledge and steps to install on macOS 10.15
> without the notarization.
>
> By default there is no option to continue with the install.  You must know
> to open it while holding the Option key only then will there be an option
> to ignore the warning and continue.
>
> The notarizing process is supposed to be quick. I don’t have an Apple
> developer ID, so I don’t know for sure.
>
> Scott
>
> > On Oct 28, 2019, at 2:12 PM, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 6:56 PM Carl Mosca 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Meaning the installer does not work if you have the latest/current
> release
> >> of the OS running.
> >>
> >
> > 'But you can ignore it. "Run anyway" so to speak. It's not that it blocks
> > you, it just warns you and makes it more steps to run potentially harmful
> > software. Anything executed from command line will execute like normal,
> and
> > I believe also if you alt-click and select open.'
> >
> >
> https://www.macrumors.com/2019/09/03/apple-macos-catalina-notarization-mac-apps/
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:39 PM  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> This came up during last release, I had raised an infra ticket for
> >>> notarization - INFRA-18790
> >>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18790>, but it failed
> with
> >>> a long list of errors.
> >>>
> >>> This needs investigation, I haven't been able to get to it yet.
> >>>
> >>> So, I agree with Geertjan's suggestion to add note that installer works
> >>> for 10.13.x and 10.14.x macOS releases and is pending notarization that
> >>> is required for 10.15.x release.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Reema
> >>>
> >>> On 28/10/19 5:43 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >>>> We could add on the Download page that the installer for Mac OSX has
> >> been
> >>>> signed but not notarized (
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__developer.apple.com_documentation_security_notarizing-5Fyour-5Fapp-5Fbefore-5Fdistribution=DwIBaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0=AU5axCXNKWDQypYO5D1OcvSHUynS_-Wl1_0S-laIHDc=e05RMNxX87RB32yCeA9JWFLooi2yfatEqICXh-ffoTw=
> >>>> ).
> >>>>
> >>>> Unless Reema has a plan or someone has a plan relating to
> notarization.
> >>>> Since we have it signed and it seems a lengthy Apple-driven process to
> >>>> notarize it, I'd argue that so long as we state that clearly, this
> >> should
> >>>> not be a blocker for releasing the installer.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gj
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:36 AM Carl Mosca 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> -1
> >>>>>  "Can't be opened because Apple cannot check for malicious software"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 6:26 AM Neil C Smith 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 09:54, Eric Barboni 
> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Sha512 and key from Reema is ok it means this can be released on
> >> dist.
> >>>>>>> Not functional is another point. But Reema can cancel if tester on
> >>>>> MacOS
> >>>>>> found issue.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Distribution on dist requires more than that, and we also discussed
> >>>>>> requiring more ourselves.  The wording that was discussed, that I
> >>>>>> thought you said you agreed with, said that all voters must verify
> >> all
> >>>>>> checksums and keys (including the additional keys in the
> >> installers!),
> >>>>>> check they function, and verify that they only install artefacts
> >> built
> >>>>>> from the released sources.  I don't see any point in voting on
> >>>>>> binaries if we're not requiring checks on all those things that the
> >>>>>> PMC must check.
> >>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 11.2 macOS Installer

[Carl Mosca]

Meaning the installer does not work if you have the latest/current release
of the OS running.

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:39 PM  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This came up during last release, I had raised an infra ticket for
> notarization - INFRA-18790
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18790>, but it failed with
> a long list of errors.
>
> This needs investigation, I haven't been able to get to it yet.
>
> So, I agree with Geertjan's suggestion to add note that installer works
> for 10.13.x and 10.14.x macOS releases and is pending notarization that
> is required for 10.15.x release.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reema
>
> On 28/10/19 5:43 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > We could add on the Download page that the installer for Mac OSX has been
> > signed but not notarized (
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__developer.apple.com_documentation_security_notarizing-5Fyour-5Fapp-5Fbefore-5Fdistribution=DwIBaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0=AU5axCXNKWDQypYO5D1OcvSHUynS_-Wl1_0S-laIHDc=e05RMNxX87RB32yCeA9JWFLooi2yfatEqICXh-ffoTw=
> > ).
> >
> > Unless Reema has a plan or someone has a plan relating to notarization.
> > Since we have it signed and it seems a lengthy Apple-driven process to
> > notarize it, I'd argue that so long as we state that clearly, this should
> > not be a blocker for releasing the installer.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 11:36 AM Carl Mosca 
> wrote:
> >
> >> -1
> >>   "Can't be opened because Apple cannot check for malicious software"
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 6:26 AM Neil C Smith 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 09:54, Eric Barboni  wrote:
> >>>> Sha512 and key from Reema is ok it means this can be released on dist.
> >>>> Not functional is another point. But Reema can cancel if tester on
> >> MacOS
> >>> found issue.
> >>>
> >>> Distribution on dist requires more than that, and we also discussed
> >>> requiring more ourselves.  The wording that was discussed, that I
> >>> thought you said you agreed with, said that all voters must verify all
> >>> checksums and keys (including the additional keys in the installers!),
> >>> check they function, and verify that they only install artefacts built
> >>> from the released sources.  I don't see any point in voting on
> >>> binaries if we're not requiring checks on all those things that the
> >>> PMC must check.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, let's not hijack the vote thread further on this.
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to hear Reema's opinion on pulling and re-voting on macOS
> >>> installers because of the notarization issue though.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks and best wishes,
> >>>
> >>> Neil
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists=DwIBaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0=AU5axCXNKWDQypYO5D1OcvSHUynS_-Wl1_0S-laIHDc=XYqudrqPACu1wB_McTbfOCSjE5P-TWycb2BM7SRC_8Y=
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Carl J. Mosca
> >>
>


-- 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 11.2 macOS Installer

[Carl Mosca]

-1
 "Can't be opened because Apple cannot check for malicious software"

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 6:26 AM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 09:54, Eric Barboni  wrote:
> > Sha512 and key from Reema is ok it means this can be released on dist.
> > Not functional is another point. But Reema can cancel if tester on MacOS
> found issue.
>
> Distribution on dist requires more than that, and we also discussed
> requiring more ourselves.  The wording that was discussed, that I
> thought you said you agreed with, said that all voters must verify all
> checksums and keys (including the additional keys in the installers!),
> check they function, and verify that they only install artefacts built
> from the released sources.  I don't see any point in voting on
> binaries if we're not requiring checks on all those things that the
> PMC must check.
>
> Anyway, let's not hijack the vote thread further on this.
>
> I'd like to hear Reema's opinion on pulling and re-voting on macOS
> installers because of the notarization issue though.
>
> Thanks and best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
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Re: Apache NetBeans status at Oracle Code One

[Carl Mosca]

Thank you for sharing.

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 7:12 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yNGapDLNDDKj
>
> Also, there's a session at Oracle Code One today in room 206 in Moscone
> South about the status, if you're around, feel free to come along.
>
> Gj
>


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Re: adding classpath

[Carl Mosca]

It should not be complicated.  If you're moving to maven, it will be less
effort in the long run if follow conventions.

If you already are following conventions, (e.g. sources are in the expected
directory, etc.) I am wondering what the issue might be.

Perhaps you have other projects on which you're relying that are not maven.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 5:46 AM Bailey Campbell 
wrote:

>
>
> On 2019/09/11 09:13:40, Tim Boudreau  wrote:
> > Describe better what you are trying to do:  Modify the POM of a Maven
> > project, or modify what the IDE thinks is the classpath of it so it
> offers
> > completion for some more stuff?
> >
> > For the former, there's
> >  - Have an implementation dependency on the Maven module, and call code
> > internal to it
> >  - Depend directly on Maven and use Maven's goshawful API for that sort
> of
> > thing
> >  - Find the pom file, analyze it and rewrite what you need (carefully,
> and
> > checking parent poms!) - for me, this was the least painful and least
> > likely to break option
> >
> > For the latter:
> >  - Assuming you want to expose a folder under src/main on the classpath,
> > implement LookupProvider (not Lookup.Provider!), and register it against
> > the maven project type, e.g. @LookupProvider.Registration(projectTypes =
> > @LookupProvider.Registration.ProjectType(id =
> "org-netbeans-modules-maven"))
> >  - In the lookup that returns, put an object that implements (from the
> > Maven module's unofficial API - use Yenta) OtherSourcesExclude and
> > JavaLikeRootProvider to *remove* that source folder from the ones it will
> > detect as "other sources" (if you skip this step all hell breaks loose)
> >  - Also include in that lookup your own implementation of Sources which
> > returns some additional folders when SourceGroup[] getSourceGroups(String
> > type) is called with "java" - that should allow the ClassPathProvider in
> > the project to pick it up (and will get you your own "sources" node under
> > the project)
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 2:50 PM joe schmo 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone know how to add a directory to the classpath in a Maven
> based
> > > project in NetBeans 11.1?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> Wowee!.   I will find a workaround,  I had no idea adding a classpath
> would be so complicated.
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Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

[Carl Mosca]

Thanks Tim for the reminders on some of that stuff and the updates.  A good
bit of it brings back some memories.

On the community-visualweb, I keep thinking we can somehow get such an
effort current/right.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 5:00 AM Tim Boudreau  wrote:

> > nb.cluster.javacard
> >
>
> I'm the primary (only?) author of Javacard support, and as far as I can
> tell, Javacard is dead as a doornail.  I see Oracle is still plugging away
> at it - press release from January on the web site.  But I can't say I've
> heard of anyone using it in years.  As a demo of how to write plugins for
> things with weird deployment models for JVMs that lack java.lang.String and
> floating point numbers, it might have some use, but that's it.  Kill it.
>
>
> > nb.cluster.mobility
> >
>
> That was some fantastic stuff in its day;  there was some visual designer
> code in there that perhaps could be repurposed more generally.  Not sure
> that Java ME has any life left in it, unless it's being used in some
> peculiar corner of the industry.
>
>
> > community-ruby
> >
>
> Ruby support is worth keeping, if it's even somewhat working.  That has a
> real audience, and I recall the support was once pretty good.
>
>
> > community-soa
> >
>
> Misguided junk to sell to managers who don't understand technology, so they
> can torture their employees with it.
>
>
> > community-uml
> >
>
> Ditto.
>
>
> > community-visualweb
> >
>
> And so must die another attempt at live-editing in an emulated browser.
>
> -Tim
>
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Re: Development Builds how much are we using them?

[Carl Mosca]

Varies, depending on my time, typically at least monthly, MacOSX

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> weekly, Ubuntu 18.04 (Snap)
>
> On 9/4/19 5:02 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I'm just wandering how many of us are using (recent)  development
> > builds? The reason is that we are introduced/about to introduce some
> > low level changes mostly for performance reasons. We do not really can
> > check the full effect of these changes without introducing them to
> > broader audience.
> >
> > I know it is quite hard to judge how board that audience is, but let
> > me try to fetch some knowledge here.
> >
> > So if you are regularly use development build please reply on this
> > thread as:
> >
> > , 
> >
> >
> > FYI: For Linux users, it is an easy opt-in for getting weekly updates
> > on development builds, by installing the netbeans-dev Snap package (we
> > have 3 users including me, at the moment):
> >
> > sudo snap install netbeans-dev --channel edge --classic
> >
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