RE: Bugzilla down? (was: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker)
Oh, it's already been done--brilliant! Thank you! (Somehow the links from Google did not work last night nor an hour ago, but now they do. Maybe I had a DNS cache issue. Sorry for the trouble!) There was an issue for this at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2546 , which I marked as resolved now. -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Daniel Gruno Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:41 AM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: Bugzilla down? (was: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker) On 15/01/2020 17.00, Eirik Bakke wrote: > It seems the old Bugzilla page is now down. Can we somehow secure a dump of > this bug database before it disappears completely? https://bz.apache.org/netbeans/ ? > > As mentioned before, comments in the NetBeans source code frequently > references old bugs that have relevant discussion threads on Bugzilla. There > are also many bugs there that people (including myself) have reported in past > years, and which we might want to open in JIRA if they resurface in the > latest Apache NetBeans versions. We need the old issue descriptions (and > comment threads) for that. Having access to the old bug reports is important > for the future maintainability of the codebase--even if we don't consider any > of the old bugs to be formally "open". > > (For example, I was just now responding to the email with the subject > "MissingResourceException", wanting to link to an old bugzilla issue > which I believe describes the problem. But then bugzilla was down.) > > -- Eirik > > -Original Message- > From: Ludovic HOCHET > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 5:10 PM > To: dev@netbeans.apache.org > Subject: Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker > > I'll +1 on keeping a read only instance of the old Bugzilla (on Apache infra > if possible). > I've started to have a look at MavenCommandLineExecutor > (NETBEANS-3254) and there are many issue references that may be helpful to > look up. > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 18:56, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> As we know, we're on JIRA now, i.e., all issues are reported here: >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS >> >> The old location from the pre-Apache days are here: >> >> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla >> >> The question is what to do with the above, sure it is read-only, no >> one should be able to create new issues there and at the top of the >> page there's messaging about using the new Apache NetBeans JIRA. >> >> However, since we want to move away from Oracle infrastructure, what >> do we want to do with the NetBeans Bugzilla, ultimately? Simply take >> it out of the air, get and backup the database dump files, or host them >> somehow? >> >> We have the NetBeans Bugzilla database dump files available at this >> stage, i.e., they're available to use inside Oracle, but the question >> is what to do with them next, where to put them, if anywhere, whether >> they should be hosted, and where. >> >> Any ideas are welcome. >> >> Gj > > > > -- > Ludovic > - > > "Les formes qui differencient les etres importent peu si leur pensees > s'unissent pour batir un univers..." > Yoko Tsuno (in 'Les titans' by Roger Leloup) [The shapes that > differenciate beings are not important if their thoughts unite to > build a universe] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Bugzilla down? (was: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker)
On 15/01/2020 17.00, Eirik Bakke wrote: It seems the old Bugzilla page is now down. Can we somehow secure a dump of this bug database before it disappears completely? https://bz.apache.org/netbeans/ ? As mentioned before, comments in the NetBeans source code frequently references old bugs that have relevant discussion threads on Bugzilla. There are also many bugs there that people (including myself) have reported in past years, and which we might want to open in JIRA if they resurface in the latest Apache NetBeans versions. We need the old issue descriptions (and comment threads) for that. Having access to the old bug reports is important for the future maintainability of the codebase--even if we don't consider any of the old bugs to be formally "open". (For example, I was just now responding to the email with the subject "MissingResourceException", wanting to link to an old bugzilla issue which I believe describes the problem. But then bugzilla was down.) -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Ludovic HOCHET Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 5:10 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker I'll +1 on keeping a read only instance of the old Bugzilla (on Apache infra if possible). I've started to have a look at MavenCommandLineExecutor (NETBEANS-3254) and there are many issue references that may be helpful to look up. On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 18:56, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Hi all, As we know, we're on JIRA now, i.e., all issues are reported here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS The old location from the pre-Apache days are here: https://netbeans.org/bugzilla The question is what to do with the above, sure it is read-only, no one should be able to create new issues there and at the top of the page there's messaging about using the new Apache NetBeans JIRA. However, since we want to move away from Oracle infrastructure, what do we want to do with the NetBeans Bugzilla, ultimately? Simply take it out of the air, get and backup the database dump files, or host them somehow? We have the NetBeans Bugzilla database dump files available at this stage, i.e., they're available to use inside Oracle, but the question is what to do with them next, where to put them, if anywhere, whether they should be hosted, and where. Any ideas are welcome. Gj -- Ludovic - "Les formes qui differencient les etres importent peu si leur pensees s'unissent pour batir un univers..." Yoko Tsuno (in 'Les titans' by Roger Leloup) [The shapes that differenciate beings are not important if their thoughts unite to build a universe] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Bugzilla down? (was: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker)
It seems the old Bugzilla page is now down. Can we somehow secure a dump of this bug database before it disappears completely? As mentioned before, comments in the NetBeans source code frequently references old bugs that have relevant discussion threads on Bugzilla. There are also many bugs there that people (including myself) have reported in past years, and which we might want to open in JIRA if they resurface in the latest Apache NetBeans versions. We need the old issue descriptions (and comment threads) for that. Having access to the old bug reports is important for the future maintainability of the codebase--even if we don't consider any of the old bugs to be formally "open". (For example, I was just now responding to the email with the subject "MissingResourceException", wanting to link to an old bugzilla issue which I believe describes the problem. But then bugzilla was down.) -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Ludovic HOCHET Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 5:10 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker I'll +1 on keeping a read only instance of the old Bugzilla (on Apache infra if possible). I've started to have a look at MavenCommandLineExecutor (NETBEANS-3254) and there are many issue references that may be helpful to look up. On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 18:56, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > Hi all, > > As we know, we're on JIRA now, i.e., all issues are reported here: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS > > The old location from the pre-Apache days are here: > > https://netbeans.org/bugzilla > > The question is what to do with the above, sure it is read-only, no > one should be able to create new issues there and at the top of the > page there's messaging about using the new Apache NetBeans JIRA. > > However, since we want to move away from Oracle infrastructure, what > do we want to do with the NetBeans Bugzilla, ultimately? Simply take > it out of the air, get and backup the database dump files, or host them > somehow? > > We have the NetBeans Bugzilla database dump files available at this > stage, i.e., they're available to use inside Oracle, but the question > is what to do with them next, where to put them, if anywhere, whether > they should be hosted, and where. > > Any ideas are welcome. > > Gj -- Ludovic - "Les formes qui differencient les etres importent peu si leur pensees s'unissent pour batir un univers..." Yoko Tsuno (in 'Les titans' by Roger Leloup) [The shapes that differenciate beings are not important if their thoughts unite to build a universe] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
Also, I'd rather build a plugin for open source bugzilla than for closed source JIRA. Cheers, Antonio El 24/10/19 a las 20:47, Tim Boudreau escribió: If Apache can host Bugzilla, why not kick Jira to the curb, dump old Bugzilla into new Bugzilla and carry on with Bugzilla? -Tim On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 12:56 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Hi all, As we know, we're on JIRA now, i.e., all issues are reported here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS The old location from the pre-Apache days are here: https://netbeans.org/bugzilla The question is what to do with the above, sure it is read-only, no one should be able to create new issues there and at the top of the page there's messaging about using the new Apache NetBeans JIRA. However, since we want to move away from Oracle infrastructure, what do we want to do with the NetBeans Bugzilla, ultimately? Simply take it out of the air, get and backup the database dump files, or host them somehow? We have the NetBeans Bugzilla database dump files available at this stage, i.e., they're available to use inside Oracle, but the question is what to do with them next, where to put them, if anywhere, whether they should be hosted, and where. Any ideas are welcome. Gj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
If Apache can host Bugzilla, why not kick Jira to the curb, dump old Bugzilla into new Bugzilla and carry on with Bugzilla? -Tim On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 12:56 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Hi all, > > As we know, we're on JIRA now, i.e., all issues are reported here: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS > > The old location from the pre-Apache days are here: > > https://netbeans.org/bugzilla > > The question is what to do with the above, sure it is read-only, no one > should be able to create new issues there and at the top of the page > there's messaging about using the new Apache NetBeans JIRA. > > However, since we want to move away from Oracle infrastructure, what do we > want to do with the NetBeans Bugzilla, ultimately? Simply take it out of > the air, get and backup the database dump files, or host them somehow? > > We have the NetBeans Bugzilla database dump files available at this stage, > i.e., they're available to use inside Oracle, but the question is what to > do with them next, where to put them, if anywhere, whether they should be > hosted, and where. > > Any ideas are welcome. > > Gj > -- http://timboudreau.com
Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
I'll +1 on keeping a read only instance of the old Bugzilla (on Apache infra if possible). I've started to have a look at MavenCommandLineExecutor (NETBEANS-3254) and there are many issue references that may be helpful to look up. On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 18:56, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > Hi all, > > As we know, we're on JIRA now, i.e., all issues are reported here: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS > > The old location from the pre-Apache days are here: > > https://netbeans.org/bugzilla > > The question is what to do with the above, sure it is read-only, no one > should be able to create new issues there and at the top of the page > there's messaging about using the new Apache NetBeans JIRA. > > However, since we want to move away from Oracle infrastructure, what do we > want to do with the NetBeans Bugzilla, ultimately? Simply take it out of > the air, get and backup the database dump files, or host them somehow? > > We have the NetBeans Bugzilla database dump files available at this stage, > i.e., they're available to use inside Oracle, but the question is what to > do with them next, where to put them, if anywhere, whether they should be > hosted, and where. > > Any ideas are welcome. > > Gj -- Ludovic - "Les formes qui differencient les etres importent peu si leur pensees s'unissent pour batir un univers..." Yoko Tsuno (in 'Les titans' by Roger Leloup) [The shapes that differenciate beings are not important if their thoughts unite to build a universe] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
AW: RE: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
Atm we have round About over 3000 bugs in JIRA for NetBeans. In bugzilla, over all the years we have over 200.000 bugs. Not all are valid anymore, a lot of where closed etc. etc. But no, not every ticket has a equivalent yet. I can say that for my open Bugs too (round about 100-200. I did some but not all. And not all of my votes have equivalents so all in all, no. I guess there are a lot of valid Bugs/feature requests open in bugzilla and don’t have an equivalent. Cheers Chris Von: Eric Bresie Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Oktober 2019 16:21 An: dev@netbeans.apache.org Betreff: Re: RE: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker Understand the scale of all this so I ask this cautiously... Is it safe to say all the items from the old Bugzilla now have an equivalent in JIRA (open or closed ones)? Or are there items left in Bugzilla without equivalent? Could the historical ones have a JIRA equivalent with the history attached in some way (i.e. added one mega comment, attach a bug dump with historical details, etc.)? Assume the Jira equivalent still have some link back to the old in some way (i.e. legacy Bugzilla id, Bugzilla title/description, etc.) right? Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com > On October 18, 2019 at 1:44:44 PM CDT, Eric Barboni wrote: > We should Do something :D, otherwise we will lost the history > > There are reference everywhere in the code like that : #21331 that are > Bugzilla id. > > Best Regards > Eric > -Message d'origine- > De : Neil C Smith > Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre 2019 19:40 > À : dev > Objet : Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 18:31, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > > > > Unfortunately forwarding of old bug URLs is not an option as the > > Bugzilla instance will be shut down sooner or later. So, if NetBeans > > community feels the old database with hundreds thousands bugs is > > needed, we must find a place where we want to host the BugZilla snapshot. > > On Apache infrastructure! ;-) As I said, that was discussed in a chat with > infra a while ago. If that's still an option, I think we should do it. I know > the old instance is being shut down. The point was to do link mapping or > forwarding here to ensure the links don't break. > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >
Re: RE: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
Understand the scale of all this so I ask this cautiously... Is it safe to say all the items from the old Bugzilla now have an equivalent in JIRA (open or closed ones)? Or are there items left in Bugzilla without equivalent? Could the historical ones have a JIRA equivalent with the history attached in some way (i.e. added one mega comment, attach a bug dump with historical details, etc.)? Assume the Jira equivalent still have some link back to the old in some way (i.e. legacy Bugzilla id, Bugzilla title/description, etc.) right? Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com > On October 18, 2019 at 1:44:44 PM CDT, Eric Barboni wrote: > We should Do something :D, otherwise we will lost the history > > There are reference everywhere in the code like that : #21331 that are > Bugzilla id. > > Best Regards > Eric > -Message d'origine- > De : Neil C Smith > Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre 2019 19:40 > À : dev > Objet : Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 18:31, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > > > > Unfortunately forwarding of old bug URLs is not an option as the > > Bugzilla instance will be shut down sooner or later. So, if NetBeans > > community feels the old database with hundreds thousands bugs is > > needed, we must find a place where we want to host the BugZilla snapshot. > > On Apache infrastructure! ;-) As I said, that was discussed in a chat with > infra a while ago. If that's still an option, I think we should do it. I know > the old instance is being shut down. The point was to do link mapping or > forwarding here to ensure the links don't break. > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >
AW: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
+1 to have an instance for the old bug tracker. Thx for clarification. The readonly instance, if we will have one later, will be only for some people and not for the public, Right? Cheers Chris Von: Geertjan Wielenga Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Oktober 2019 12:10 An: dev@netbeans.apache.org Betreff: Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/INFRA-19304 Gj On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 11:57, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > I’ll raise an infra request for an Apache bugzilla instance, set to read > only, for our historical issues. > > Gj > > On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 03:16, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > >> +1 (non-binding). >> >> At Apache OpenOffice, we also imported Oracle's old bugs into a Bugzilla >> instance at Apache. >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 2:55 AM Junichi Yamamoto >> wrote: >> >> > > +1 for getting everything in a bugzilla instance at Apache if >> possible... >> > >> > +1 me, too. >> > >> > The history is important. I search and look at old issues sometimes. >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 4:46 AM Sven Reimers >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > +1 for getting everything in a bugzilla instance at Apache if >> possible... >> > > >> > > Sven >> > > >> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 8:44 PM Eric Barboni >> wrote: >> > > >> > > > We should Do something :D, otherwise we will lost the history >> > > > >> > > > There are reference everywhere in the code like that : #21331 that >> are >> > > > Bugzilla id. >> > > > >> > > > Best Regards >> > > > Eric >> > > > -Message d'origine- >> > > > De : Neil C Smith >> > > > Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre 2019 19:40 >> > > > À : dev >> > > > Objet : Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 18:31, Jiří Kovalský < >> jiri.koval...@oracle.com> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Unfortunately forwarding of old bug URLs is not an option as the >> > > > > Bugzilla instance will be shut down sooner or later. So, if >> NetBeans >> > > > > community feels the old database with hundreds thousands bugs is >> > > > > needed, we must find a place where we want to host the BugZilla >> > snapshot. >> > > > >> > > > On Apache infrastructure! ;-) As I said, that was discussed in a >> chat >> > > > with infra a while ago. If that's still an option, I think we >> should >> > do >> > > > it. I know the old instance is being shut down. The point was to >> do >> > link >> > > > mapping or forwarding here to ensure the links don't break. >> > > > >> > > > Best wishes, >> > > > >> > > > Neil >> > > > >> > > > >> - >> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> > > > >> > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> - >> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> > > > >> > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Sven Reimers >> > > >> > > * Senior Expert Software Architect >> > > * Java Champion >> > > * Apache NetBeans PPMC: http://netbeans.apache.org >> > > * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee >> > > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018 >> > > >> > > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> > >> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >
Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/INFRA-19304 Gj On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 11:57, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > I’ll raise an infra request for an Apache bugzilla instance, set to read > only, for our historical issues. > > Gj > > On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 03:16, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > >> +1 (non-binding). >> >> At Apache OpenOffice, we also imported Oracle's old bugs into a Bugzilla >> instance at Apache. >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 2:55 AM Junichi Yamamoto >> wrote: >> >> > > +1 for getting everything in a bugzilla instance at Apache if >> possible... >> > >> > +1 me, too. >> > >> > The history is important. I search and look at old issues sometimes. >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 4:46 AM Sven Reimers >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > +1 for getting everything in a bugzilla instance at Apache if >> possible... >> > > >> > > Sven >> > > >> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 8:44 PM Eric Barboni >> wrote: >> > > >> > > > We should Do something :D, otherwise we will lost the history >> > > > >> > > > There are reference everywhere in the code like that : #21331 that >> are >> > > > Bugzilla id. >> > > > >> > > > Best Regards >> > > > Eric >> > > > -Message d'origine- >> > > > De : Neil C Smith >> > > > Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre 2019 19:40 >> > > > À : dev >> > > > Objet : Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 18:31, Jiří Kovalský < >> jiri.koval...@oracle.com> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Unfortunately forwarding of old bug URLs is not an option as the >> > > > > Bugzilla instance will be shut down sooner or later. So, if >> NetBeans >> > > > > community feels the old database with hundreds thousands bugs is >> > > > > needed, we must find a place where we want to host the BugZilla >> > snapshot. >> > > > >> > > > On Apache infrastructure! ;-) As I said, that was discussed in a >> chat >> > > > with infra a while ago. If that's still an option, I think we >> should >> > do >> > > > it. I know the old instance is being shut down. The point was to >> do >> > link >> > > > mapping or forwarding here to ensure the links don't break. >> > > > >> > > > Best wishes, >> > > > >> > > > Neil >> > > > >> > > > >> - >> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> > > > >> > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> - >> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> > > > >> > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Sven Reimers >> > > >> > > * Senior Expert Software Architect >> > > * Java Champion >> > > * Apache NetBeans PPMC: http://netbeans.apache.org >> > > * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee >> > > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018 >> > > >> > > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org >> > >> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >
Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
+1 (non-binding). At Apache OpenOffice, we also imported Oracle's old bugs into a Bugzilla instance at Apache. On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 2:55 AM Junichi Yamamoto wrote: > > +1 for getting everything in a bugzilla instance at Apache if possible... > > +1 me, too. > > The history is important. I search and look at old issues sometimes. > > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 4:46 AM Sven Reimers > wrote: > > > > +1 for getting everything in a bugzilla instance at Apache if possible... > > > > Sven > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 8:44 PM Eric Barboni wrote: > > > > > We should Do something :D, otherwise we will lost the history > > > > > > There are reference everywhere in the code like that : #21331 that are > > > Bugzilla id. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Eric > > > -----Message d'origine- > > > De : Neil C Smith > > > Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre 2019 19:40 > > > À : dev > > > Objet : Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 18:31, Jiří Kovalský > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Unfortunately forwarding of old bug URLs is not an option as the > > > > Bugzilla instance will be shut down sooner or later. So, if NetBeans > > > > community feels the old database with hundreds thousands bugs is > > > > needed, we must find a place where we want to host the BugZilla > snapshot. > > > > > > On Apache infrastructure! ;-) As I said, that was discussed in a chat > > > with infra a while ago. If that's still an option, I think we should > do > > > it. I know the old instance is being shut down. The point was to do > link > > > mapping or forwarding here to ensure the links don't break. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Neil > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sven Reimers > > > > * Senior Expert Software Architect > > * Java Champion > > * Apache NetBeans PPMC: http://netbeans.apache.org > > * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee > > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018 > > > > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
> +1 for getting everything in a bugzilla instance at Apache if possible... +1 me, too. The history is important. I search and look at old issues sometimes. On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 4:46 AM Sven Reimers wrote: > > +1 for getting everything in a bugzilla instance at Apache if possible... > > Sven > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 8:44 PM Eric Barboni wrote: > > > We should Do something :D, otherwise we will lost the history > > > > There are reference everywhere in the code like that : #21331 that are > > Bugzilla id. > > > > Best Regards > > Eric > > -Message d'origine- > > De : Neil C Smith > > Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre 2019 19:40 > > À : dev > > Objet : Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker > > > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 18:31, Jiří Kovalský > > wrote: > > > > > > Unfortunately forwarding of old bug URLs is not an option as the > > > Bugzilla instance will be shut down sooner or later. So, if NetBeans > > > community feels the old database with hundreds thousands bugs is > > > needed, we must find a place where we want to host the BugZilla snapshot. > > > > On Apache infrastructure! ;-) As I said, that was discussed in a chat > > with infra a while ago. If that's still an option, I think we should do > > it. I know the old instance is being shut down. The point was to do link > > mapping or forwarding here to ensure the links don't break. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Neil > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sven Reimers > > * Senior Expert Software Architect > * Java Champion > * Apache NetBeans PPMC: http://netbeans.apache.org > * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018 > > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
+1 for getting everything in a bugzilla instance at Apache if possible... Sven On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 8:44 PM Eric Barboni wrote: > We should Do something :D, otherwise we will lost the history > > There are reference everywhere in the code like that : #21331 that are > Bugzilla id. > > Best Regards > Eric > -Message d'origine- > De : Neil C Smith > Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre 2019 19:40 > À : dev > Objet : Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 18:31, Jiří Kovalský > wrote: > > > > Unfortunately forwarding of old bug URLs is not an option as the > > Bugzilla instance will be shut down sooner or later. So, if NetBeans > > community feels the old database with hundreds thousands bugs is > > needed, we must find a place where we want to host the BugZilla snapshot. > > On Apache infrastructure! ;-) As I said, that was discussed in a chat > with infra a while ago. If that's still an option, I think we should do > it. I know the old instance is being shut down. The point was to do link > mapping or forwarding here to ensure the links don't break. > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > -- Sven Reimers * Senior Expert Software Architect * Java Champion * Apache NetBeans PPMC: http://netbeans.apache.org * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018 * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
RE: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
We should Do something :D, otherwise we will lost the history There are reference everywhere in the code like that : #21331 that are Bugzilla id. Best Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Neil C Smith Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre 2019 19:40 À : dev Objet : Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 18:31, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > > Unfortunately forwarding of old bug URLs is not an option as the > Bugzilla instance will be shut down sooner or later. So, if NetBeans > community feels the old database with hundreds thousands bugs is > needed, we must find a place where we want to host the BugZilla snapshot. On Apache infrastructure! ;-) As I said, that was discussed in a chat with infra a while ago. If that's still an option, I think we should do it. I know the old instance is being shut down. The point was to do link mapping or forwarding here to ensure the links don't break. Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 18:31, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > > Unfortunately forwarding of old bug URLs is not an option as the > Bugzilla instance will be shut down sooner or later. So, if NetBeans > community feels the old database with hundreds thousands bugs is needed, > we must find a place where we want to host the BugZilla snapshot. On Apache infrastructure! ;-) As I said, that was discussed in a chat with infra a while ago. If that's still an option, I think we should do it. I know the old instance is being shut down. The point was to do link mapping or forwarding here to ensure the links don't break. Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
Unfortunately forwarding of old bug URLs is not an option as the Bugzilla instance will be shut down sooner or later. So, if NetBeans community feels the old database with hundreds thousands bugs is needed, we must find a place where we want to host the BugZilla snapshot. Have a great weekend everyone! -Jirka Dne 18. 10. 19 v 19:01 Neil C Smith napsal(a): On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 17:56, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: However, since we want to move away from Oracle infrastructure, what do we want to do with the NetBeans Bugzilla, ultimately? In the web infra chats we had a while ago I'm pretty sure we discussed importing and hosting within an Apache Bugzilla instance. That would be my preference, ideally keeping, or if not, forwarding, the existing links. There's still useful info in there, and various references in the source code. Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 17:56, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > However, since we want to move away from Oracle infrastructure, what do we > want to do with the NetBeans Bugzilla, ultimately? In the web infra chats we had a while ago I'm pretty sure we discussed importing and hosting within an Apache Bugzilla instance. That would be my preference, ideally keeping, or if not, forwarding, the existing links. There's still useful info in there, and various references in the source code. Best wishes, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Future of old NetBeans bug tracker
Hi all, As we know, we're on JIRA now, i.e., all issues are reported here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS The old location from the pre-Apache days are here: https://netbeans.org/bugzilla The question is what to do with the above, sure it is read-only, no one should be able to create new issues there and at the top of the page there's messaging about using the new Apache NetBeans JIRA. However, since we want to move away from Oracle infrastructure, what do we want to do with the NetBeans Bugzilla, ultimately? Simply take it out of the air, get and backup the database dump files, or host them somehow? We have the NetBeans Bugzilla database dump files available at this stage, i.e., they're available to use inside Oracle, but the question is what to do with them next, where to put them, if anywhere, whether they should be hosted, and where. Any ideas are welcome. Gj
