Re: Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-14 Thread Eric Bresie
So on one of the deltas listed I see it removing gnu debugger in place of what 
looked like the proprietary one. Could the gnu debugger be resurrection and 
used instead?

If clank is basically a third party product can an external dependency be added 
and used instead of including it directly as part of the code base?

Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com
> On February 9, 2020 at 3:28:31 AM CST, Geertjan Wielenga 
>  wrote:
> Thanks a lot for this history lesson -- so great that we have people with
> this long perspective on where the code came from and so on.
>
> I have also seen "Target "all-cnd" does not exist in the project "main"".
>
> But then sometimes it just goes away. Reminds me a bit of this discussion:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/201809.mbox/%3ccackjaxssrrl66sua9heyqqxy4oyrxygkyemvg50rktrda-e...@mail.gmail.com%3E
>
> If you/we can get further with this, that would be great -- and please feel
> free to provide pull requests to my fork.
>
> Gj
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 7:53 AM Ivan Soleimanipour <
> ivan.soleimanip...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > I took a look at geertjans branch (https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans)
> >
> > building "ant -Dcluster.config=cnd" ...
> >
> > You should be able to deal with the dbx dependency simply by removing
> > 'cnd.debugger.dbx' from the 'nb.cluster.cnd'
> > list in "nbbuild/cluster.properties". There's also 'libs.dbx.support' in
> > that list but that only contains
> > a Bundle file so won't affect the build. The same goes for 'libs.clank'.
> >
> > I also had to remove 'nb.cluster.dlight' from 'nb.cluster.cnd.depends' in
> > "nbbuild/cluster.properties".
> >
> > But then I ran into
> > > /home/open/nb-geertjan/nbbuild/build.xml:660: Target "all-cnd" does not
> > exist in the project "main".
> > > It is used from target "nbmerge-build-one-cluster".
> > I might pursue that in a bit (but I really hope someone else has the
> > answer :-)
> >
> > In the meantime ...
> >
> > ... A bit of history.
> >
> > dbx is the Solaris source level debugger with origins dating back to the
> > original days of BSD and Sun.
> >
> > The tools group at Sun/Oracle was subdivided into the IDE (CND) group in
> > StPetersburg (SPB) and the dbx group
> > in SiliconValley. There was also a performance tool group in SV which was
> > in charge of the Performance Analyzer
> >
> >
> > https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solarisstudio/features/performance-analyzer-2292312.html
> > The only reason I'm entioning this group is because it was the
> > primary performance analysis tool as opposed to
> > "dlight" which is a very simple and lightweight performance and
> > resource monitoring system.
> >
> > The bulk of the IDE functionality was done in an open-source manner by the
> > CND group. This included all the project
> > mgmt stuff, machinery to execute native binaries (like make and
> > compilers), and remotely so, and all the work needed for
> > code-completion (as in a C++ parser written in Java) and rich language
> > support in the editor. It also included
> > support for the GDB debugger which was initially done by the dbx team.
> > It's called cnd.debugger.gdb2 because there
> > was an older Q hack-and-slash cnd.debugger.gdb.
> >
> > clank ... has it's own rich history and I'm not sure I can do
> > justice to it.
> >
> > To support a model for code completion the IDE has to parse C++.
> > THe initial impl. used a bespoke
> > antlr based C++ parser. That's what cnd.apt is all about.
> >
> > Clank is the brainchild of Vladimir Voskresensky and its github
> > page (https://github.com/java-port/clank)
> > says "Clank is a Java-port of popular Clang frontend". It's
> > actually hela cooler than the title says.
> > Take a look at
> > http://llvm.org/devmtg/2017-03/assets/slides/clank_java_port_of_c_cxx_compiler_frontend.pdf
> > What I don't know is what is the relationship of clank and NB as
> > in why github.com/java-port/clank
> > isn't in NB.
> >
> > Meanwhile Oracle had a tools (compilers, debugger, ide) product,
> > SolarisStudio (SS), the IDE part of which built
> > on top of NB and added some extra modules the most important one being the
> > GUI for dbx support.
> >
> > For a long time the NB gdb and SS dbx modules evolved independently until,
> > in a big flurry of factoring,
> > common code was isolated in cnd.debugger.common2 with cnd.debugger.gdb2
> > and, what you now see as cnd.debugger.dbx,
> > becoming different debugger "adapters". Yet, cnd.debugger.dbx remained
> > proprietary. The main reason was that it
> > had dependencies on even more proprietary stuff (e.g. glue). The CND group
> > lobbied hard to come up with
> > a way to make cnd.debugger.dbx go into NB proper (mainly because of
> > convenience) but despite many heated
> > discussions AFAIK "cnd.debugger.dbx" always stayed proprietary.
> >
> > This is why the appearance of cnd.debugger.dbx in this deliverable is a
> > bit surprising to me.
> >
> > It may be that after I stopped 

Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-09 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Thanks a lot for this history lesson -- so great that we have people with
this long perspective on where the code came from and so on.

I have also seen "Target "all-cnd" does not exist in the project "main"".

But then sometimes it just goes away. Reminds me a bit of this discussion:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/201809.mbox/%3ccackjaxssrrl66sua9heyqqxy4oyrxygkyemvg50rktrda-e...@mail.gmail.com%3E

If you/we can get further with this, that would be great -- and please feel
free to provide pull requests to my fork.

Gj

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 7:53 AM Ivan Soleimanipour <
ivan.soleimanip...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I took a look at geertjans branch (https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans)
>
> building "ant -Dcluster.config=cnd" ...
>
> You should be able to deal with the dbx dependency simply by removing
> 'cnd.debugger.dbx' from the 'nb.cluster.cnd'
> list in "nbbuild/cluster.properties". There's also 'libs.dbx.support' in
> that list but that only contains
> a Bundle file so won't affect the build. The same goes for 'libs.clank'.
>
> I also had to remove 'nb.cluster.dlight' from 'nb.cluster.cnd.depends' in
> "nbbuild/cluster.properties".
>
> But then I ran into
>  > /home/open/nb-geertjan/nbbuild/build.xml:660: Target "all-cnd" does not
> exist in the project "main".
>  > It is used from target "nbmerge-build-one-cluster".
> I might pursue that in a bit (but I really hope someone else has the
> answer :-)
>
> In the meantime ...
>
> ... A bit of history.
>
> dbx is the Solaris source level debugger with origins dating back to the
> original days of BSD and Sun.
>
> The tools group at Sun/Oracle was subdivided into the IDE (CND) group in
> StPetersburg (SPB) and the dbx group
> in SiliconValley. There was also a performance tool group in SV which was
> in charge of the Performance Analyzer
>
>
> https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solarisstudio/features/performance-analyzer-2292312.html
> The only reason I'm entioning this group is because it was the
> primary performance analysis tool as opposed to
> "dlight" which is a very simple and lightweight performance and
> resource monitoring system.
>
> The bulk of the IDE functionality was done in an open-source manner by the
> CND group. This included all the project
> mgmt stuff, machinery to execute native binaries (like make and
> compilers), and remotely so, and all the work needed for
> code-completion (as in a C++ parser written in Java) and rich language
> support in the editor. It also included
> support for the GDB debugger which was initially done by the dbx team.
> It's called cnd.debugger.gdb2 because there
> was an older Q hack-and-slash cnd.debugger.gdb.
>
> clank ... has it's own rich history and I'm not sure I can do
> justice to it.
>
> To support a model for code completion the IDE has to parse C++.
> THe initial impl. used a bespoke
> antlr based C++ parser. That's what cnd.apt is all about.
>
> Clank is the brainchild of Vladimir Voskresensky and its github
> page (https://github.com/java-port/clank)
> says "Clank is a Java-port of popular Clang frontend". It's
> actually hela cooler than the title says.
> Take a look at
> http://llvm.org/devmtg/2017-03/assets/slides/clank_java_port_of_c_cxx_compiler_frontend.pdf
> What I don't know is what is the relationship of clank and NB as
> in why github.com/java-port/clank
> isn't in NB.
>
> Meanwhile Oracle had a tools (compilers, debugger, ide) product,
> SolarisStudio (SS), the IDE part of which built
> on top of NB and added some extra modules the most important one being the
> GUI for dbx support.
>
> For a long time the NB gdb and SS dbx modules evolved independently until,
> in a big flurry of factoring,
> common code was isolated in cnd.debugger.common2 with cnd.debugger.gdb2
> and, what you now see as cnd.debugger.dbx,
> becoming different debugger "adapters". Yet, cnd.debugger.dbx remained
> proprietary. The main reason was that it
> had dependencies on even more proprietary stuff (e.g. glue). The CND group
> lobbied hard to come up with
> a way to make cnd.debugger.dbx go into NB proper (mainly because of
> convenience) but despite many heated
> discussions AFAIK "cnd.debugger.dbx" always stayed proprietary.
>
> This is why the appearance of cnd.debugger.dbx in this deliverable is a
> bit surprising to me.
>
> It may be that after I stopped being involved with Oracle (Or maybe even
> while I was there and my memory is
> totally shot) the CND group got to have its way, with the blessing of
> Oracle legal, and moved cnd.debugger.dbx
> into NB proper.
>
> No matter, The point is that cnd.debugger.dbx is, as you have discovered,
> unbuildable and ultimately useless because
> it needs a dbx binary to connect to, and a bunch of JNI code to do so, all
> of which must come from Solaris Studio.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -
> To 

Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-07 Thread Ivan Soleimanipour

I took a look at geertjans branch (https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans)

building "ant -Dcluster.config=cnd" ...

You should be able to deal with the dbx dependency simply by removing 
'cnd.debugger.dbx' from the 'nb.cluster.cnd'
list in "nbbuild/cluster.properties". There's also 'libs.dbx.support' in that 
list but that only contains
a Bundle file so won't affect the build. The same goes for 'libs.clank'.

I also had to remove 'nb.cluster.dlight' from 'nb.cluster.cnd.depends' in 
"nbbuild/cluster.properties".

But then I ran into
> /home/open/nb-geertjan/nbbuild/build.xml:660: Target "all-cnd" does not exist in the 
project "main".
> It is used from target "nbmerge-build-one-cluster".
I might pursue that in a bit (but I really hope someone else has the answer :-)

In the meantime ...

... A bit of history.

dbx is the Solaris source level debugger with origins dating back to the 
original days of BSD and Sun.

The tools group at Sun/Oracle was subdivided into the IDE (CND) group in 
StPetersburg (SPB) and the dbx group
in SiliconValley. There was also a performance tool group in SV which was in 
charge of the Performance Analyzer


https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solarisstudio/features/performance-analyzer-2292312.html
The only reason I'm entioning this group is because it was the primary 
performance analysis tool as opposed to
"dlight" which is a very simple and lightweight performance and 
resource monitoring system.

The bulk of the IDE functionality was done in an open-source manner by the CND 
group. This included all the project
mgmt stuff, machinery to execute native binaries (like make and compilers), and 
remotely so, and all the work needed for
code-completion (as in a C++ parser written in Java) and rich language support 
in the editor. It also included
support for the GDB debugger which was initially done by the dbx team. It's 
called cnd.debugger.gdb2 because there
was an older Q hack-and-slash cnd.debugger.gdb.

clank ... has it's own rich history and I'm not sure I can do justice 
to it.

To support a model for code completion the IDE has to parse C++. THe 
initial impl. used a bespoke
antlr based C++ parser. That's what cnd.apt is all about.

Clank is the brainchild of Vladimir Voskresensky and its github page 
(https://github.com/java-port/clank)
says "Clank is a Java-port of popular Clang frontend". It's actually 
hela cooler than the title says.
Take a look at 
http://llvm.org/devmtg/2017-03/assets/slides/clank_java_port_of_c_cxx_compiler_frontend.pdf
What I don't know is what is the relationship of clank and NB as in why 
github.com/java-port/clank
isn't in NB.

Meanwhile Oracle had a tools (compilers, debugger, ide) product, SolarisStudio 
(SS), the IDE part of which built
on top of NB and added some extra modules the most important one being the GUI 
for dbx support.

For a long time the NB gdb and SS dbx modules evolved independently until, in a 
big flurry of factoring,
common code was isolated in cnd.debugger.common2 with cnd.debugger.gdb2 and, 
what you now see as cnd.debugger.dbx,
becoming different debugger "adapters". Yet, cnd.debugger.dbx remained 
proprietary. The main reason was that it
had dependencies on even more proprietary stuff (e.g. glue). The CND group 
lobbied hard to come up with
a way to make cnd.debugger.dbx go into NB proper (mainly because of 
convenience) but despite many heated
discussions AFAIK "cnd.debugger.dbx" always stayed proprietary.

This is why the appearance of cnd.debugger.dbx in this deliverable is a bit 
surprising to me.

It may be that after I stopped being involved with Oracle (Or maybe even while 
I was there and my memory is
totally shot) the CND group got to have its way, with the blessing of Oracle 
legal, and moved cnd.debugger.dbx
into NB proper.

No matter, The point is that cnd.debugger.dbx is, as you have discovered, 
unbuildable and ultimately useless because
it needs a dbx binary to connect to, and a bunch of JNI code to do so, all of 
which must come from Solaris Studio.






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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-07 Thread Jan Lahoda
On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:15 AM Ivan Soleimanipour <
ivan.soleimanip...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>
> On 2/6/20 11:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 5:19 AM Ivan Soleimanipour <
> > ivan.soleimanip...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >> This is odd.
> >> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx et-al is a module that's part of the "Studio"
> >> closed-source product.
> >> Maybe some kind of stub was added later on. My copy of the NB repo is is
> >> all pre-apache and even older and it doesn't
> >> have these modules.
> >> Maybe Oracle accidentally gave away the C++ from Studio as opposed to
> >> plain NB.
> >>
> >
> > FWIW, the cnd.debugger.dbx module was actually part of the NetBeans
> > repository:
> > http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx
> >
> > And it is part of the donation, I believe, but Geertjan deleted it:
> >
> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans/commit/87a0e772aa34c308717d6522982810267aca54a7
> >
>
> I don't think that this stuff was never supposed to be part of netbeans.
> For example,
>
> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans/commit/87a0e772aa34c308717d6522982810267aca54a7#diff-6b8d82252d130f7527fc907a1447deee
> has these: import com.sun.tools.swdev.glue.*;
>
> Glue was an Oracle proprietary RPC protocol.
>
>
I cannot comment on what were the intents back then, but seems the code was
added by this changeset:
http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/rev/620b6340b3c7
(which is almost a decade ago!)

It probably was not part of the standard build until:
http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/rev/374cf92bd9b0c56c86ee11c5ed2638a0b44df46e

which was probably after NetBeans 8.2. But I see nothing that would suggest
this was not part of the NetBeans repository for a very long time.

Anyway - things like this were why I said problematic dependencies. And it
may very well be that Apache NetBeans will not and/or could not use this
module. But I don't think that any of that means the code itself was not
NetBeans - even the ExternalStartImpl.java file says "The Original Software
is NetBeans." in its license, which was added by a member of the CND team.
So why do you think it was not part of NetBeans?

My latest copy of classic NB dates from Aug 1 2016 and it doesn't have this
> dbx stuff.
>
> Looking at http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx
> I see
> dbx stuff, e.g.
>
> http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx/src/org/netbeans/modules/cnd/debugger/dbx/capture/ExternalStartImpl.java
> which is a module that deals this feature
>  https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E77782_01/html/E77803/ss-attach-1.html
> of studio, was added like this:
> author  Svata Dedic 
> Tue, 17 Oct 2017 16:38:27 +0200
>

The Mercurial web UI is terrible here - this is the most recent change on
branch default, but the change itself has nothing to do with C/C++:
http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/rev/fcaaa60addf7

The code of the module was added with the changeset I had mentioned above.
Look also  at the annotated version:
http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/annotate/default/cnd.debugger.dbx/src/org/netbeans/modules/cnd/debugger/dbx/capture/ExternalStartImpl.java

Both the "The Original Software is NetBeans." and the "import
com.sun.tools.swdev.glue.*;" lines were (as far as I can tell) added by the
same original changeset, by a member of the CND team.

Jan

Looking at some other trad NB files in that neighbourhood this looks like
> some sort of bulk copy so
> the only important data point is the date not the author.
>
> > presumably because it has problematic dependencies.
>
> While Geertjan may have dealt with the issue by looking at "problematic
> dependencies" it seems to me that it's
> more an issue of poor IP and copyright provenance.
>


Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-07 Thread Peter Kovacs
Maybe it makes sense to collect all issues first. We could treat all
missing dependencies as Gaps and try to figure out where in the code we
have issues.

We could then evaluate the gaps and make a decision if it is worth to
close the gaps or rewrite. And maybe we can collect Informations or
cluster some gaps.

What do you think? Maybe One Jira task cnd- integration and create an
overview of issues?

On 07.02.20 10:45, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> It’s going to be a lot of work integrating C/C++ back into NetBeans and I
> may need to restart from scratch.
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 10:15, Ivan Soleimanipour <
> ivan.soleimanip...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 2/6/20 11:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 5:19 AM Ivan Soleimanipour <
>>> ivan.soleimanip...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
 This is odd.
 cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx et-al is a module that's part of the "Studio"
 closed-source product.
 Maybe some kind of stub was added later on. My copy of the NB repo is is
 all pre-apache and even older and it doesn't
 have these modules.
 Maybe Oracle accidentally gave away the C++ from Studio as opposed to
 plain NB.

>>> FWIW, the cnd.debugger.dbx module was actually part of the NetBeans
>>> repository:
>>> http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx
>>>
>>> And it is part of the donation, I believe, but Geertjan deleted it:
>>>
>> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans/commit/87a0e772aa34c308717d6522982810267aca54a7
>> I don't think that this stuff was never supposed to be part of netbeans.
>> For example,
>>
>> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans/commit/87a0e772aa34c308717d6522982810267aca54a7#diff-6b8d82252d130f7527fc907a1447deee
>> has these: import com.sun.tools.swdev.glue.*;
>>
>> Glue was an Oracle proprietary RPC protocol.
>>
>> My latest copy of classic NB dates from Aug 1 2016 and it doesn't have
>> this dbx stuff.
>>
>> Looking at http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx
>> I see
>> dbx stuff, e.g.
>>
>> http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx/src/org/netbeans/modules/cnd/debugger/dbx/capture/ExternalStartImpl.java
>> which is a module that deals this feature
>>  https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E77782_01/html/E77803/ss-attach-1.html
>> of studio, was added like this:
>> author  Svata Dedic 
>> Tue, 17 Oct 2017 16:38:27 +0200
>> Looking at some other trad NB files in that neighbourhood this looks like
>> some sort of bulk copy so
>> the only important data point is the date not the author.
>>
>>> presumably because it has problematic dependencies.
>> While Geertjan may have dealt with the issue by looking at "problematic
>> dependencies" it seems to me that it's
>> more an issue of poor IP and copyright provenance.
>>
>>
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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
It’s going to be a lot of work integrating C/C++ back into NetBeans and I
may need to restart from scratch.

Gj

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 10:15, Ivan Soleimanipour <
ivan.soleimanip...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>
> On 2/6/20 11:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 5:19 AM Ivan Soleimanipour <
> > ivan.soleimanip...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >> This is odd.
> >> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx et-al is a module that's part of the "Studio"
> >> closed-source product.
> >> Maybe some kind of stub was added later on. My copy of the NB repo is is
> >> all pre-apache and even older and it doesn't
> >> have these modules.
> >> Maybe Oracle accidentally gave away the C++ from Studio as opposed to
> >> plain NB.
> >>
> >
> > FWIW, the cnd.debugger.dbx module was actually part of the NetBeans
> > repository:
> > http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx
> >
> > And it is part of the donation, I believe, but Geertjan deleted it:
> >
> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans/commit/87a0e772aa34c308717d6522982810267aca54a7
> >
>
> I don't think that this stuff was never supposed to be part of netbeans.
> For example,
>
> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans/commit/87a0e772aa34c308717d6522982810267aca54a7#diff-6b8d82252d130f7527fc907a1447deee
> has these: import com.sun.tools.swdev.glue.*;
>
> Glue was an Oracle proprietary RPC protocol.
>
> My latest copy of classic NB dates from Aug 1 2016 and it doesn't have
> this dbx stuff.
>
> Looking at http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx
> I see
> dbx stuff, e.g.
>
> http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx/src/org/netbeans/modules/cnd/debugger/dbx/capture/ExternalStartImpl.java
> which is a module that deals this feature
>  https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E77782_01/html/E77803/ss-attach-1.html
> of studio, was added like this:
> author  Svata Dedic 
> Tue, 17 Oct 2017 16:38:27 +0200
> Looking at some other trad NB files in that neighbourhood this looks like
> some sort of bulk copy so
> the only important data point is the date not the author.
>
> > presumably because it has problematic dependencies.
>
> While Geertjan may have dealt with the issue by looking at "problematic
> dependencies" it seems to me that it's
> more an issue of poor IP and copyright provenance.
>
>
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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-07 Thread Ivan Soleimanipour




On 2/6/20 11:06 PM, Jan Lahoda wrote:

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 5:19 AM Ivan Soleimanipour <
ivan.soleimanip...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


This is odd.
cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx et-al is a module that's part of the "Studio"
closed-source product.
Maybe some kind of stub was added later on. My copy of the NB repo is is
all pre-apache and even older and it doesn't
have these modules.
Maybe Oracle accidentally gave away the C++ from Studio as opposed to
plain NB.



FWIW, the cnd.debugger.dbx module was actually part of the NetBeans
repository:
http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx

And it is part of the donation, I believe, but Geertjan deleted it:
https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans/commit/87a0e772aa34c308717d6522982810267aca54a7



I don't think that this stuff was never supposed to be part of netbeans.
For example,

https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans/commit/87a0e772aa34c308717d6522982810267aca54a7#diff-6b8d82252d130f7527fc907a1447deee
has these: import com.sun.tools.swdev.glue.*;

Glue was an Oracle proprietary RPC protocol.

My latest copy of classic NB dates from Aug 1 2016 and it doesn't have this dbx 
stuff.

Looking at http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx I see
dbx stuff, e.g.

http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx/src/org/netbeans/modules/cnd/debugger/dbx/capture/ExternalStartImpl.java
which is a module that deals this feature
https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E77782_01/html/E77803/ss-attach-1.html
of studio, was added like this:
author  Svata Dedic 
Tue, 17 Oct 2017 16:38:27 +0200
Looking at some other trad NB files in that neighbourhood this looks like some 
sort of bulk copy so
the only important data point is the date not the author.


presumably because it has problematic dependencies.


While Geertjan may have dealt with the issue by looking at "problematic 
dependencies" it seems to me that it's
more an issue of poor IP and copyright provenance.


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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-07 Thread Peter Kovacs
Ohh cool. Thanks. That helps. Lets take a look on the code :)

On 07.02.20 08:06, Jan Lahoda wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 5:19 AM Ivan Soleimanipour <
> ivan.soleimanip...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> This is odd.
>> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx et-al is a module that's part of the "Studio"
>> closed-source product.
>> Maybe some kind of stub was added later on. My copy of the NB repo is is
>> all pre-apache and even older and it doesn't
>> have these modules.
>> Maybe Oracle accidentally gave away the C++ from Studio as opposed to
>> plain NB.
>>
> FWIW, the cnd.debugger.dbx module was actually part of the NetBeans
> repository:
> http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx
>
> And it is part of the donation, I believe, but Geertjan deleted it:
> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans/commit/87a0e772aa34c308717d6522982810267aca54a7
>
> presumably because it has problematic dependencies.
>
>
>> What apache repo/branch is this new batch of giveaways which includes C++?
>> I'll try and look at this module and
>> maybe it'll jog my memory/clear things up.
>>
> I believe Geertjan's working branch is here:
> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
>
> Jan
>
>
>>
>> On 2/6/20 1:50 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
>>> get a notification if you change something ;)
>>>
>>> Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:
>>>
>>> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx
>>>
>>> In the repo there is
>>>
>>> cnd.debugger.common2
>>> cnd.debugger.gdb2
>>>
>>> maybe similar case?
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:
 Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to
>> build.
 where do I find the following definition?

 netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
 org.netbeans.libs.clank

 It is not at the given location.

 Same message different location:

 /netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
 exist:

 first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
 ant via commandline.


 I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
 Or can I config something?

 Doku would be also fine. :)

 Thanks any help.

 On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

> Get the code to compile. :-)
>
> That's what I'm working on now.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>
>> What are the tasks to do?
>>
>> I help if I can.
>>
>> On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>> You can use openbeans.org.
>>>
>>> Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my
>> fork
>>> right now:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
>> birger...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,


 Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
 projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
 eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
 Netbeans.

 But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
 some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
 plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to
>> support
 Apache Netbeans?


 Best regards,
 Birger


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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-07 Thread Peter Kovacs
I pulled Geertjan github repo, there is the cnd donation included.

https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans


On 07.02.20 05:19, Ivan Soleimanipour wrote:
> This is odd.
> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx et-al is a module that's part of the "Studio"
> closed-source product.
> Maybe some kind of stub was added later on. My copy of the NB repo is
> is all pre-apache and even older and it doesn't
> have these modules.
> Maybe Oracle accidentally gave away the C++ from Studio as opposed to
> plain NB.
>
> What apache repo/branch is this new batch of giveaways which includes
> C++? I'll try and look at this module and
> maybe it'll jog my memory/clear things up.
>
>
> On 2/6/20 1:50 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
>> get a notification if you change something ;)
>>
>> Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:
>>
>> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx
>>
>> In the repo there is
>>
>> cnd.debugger.common2
>> cnd.debugger.gdb2
>>
>> maybe similar case?
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to
>>> build.
>>>
>>> where do I find the following definition?
>>>
>>> netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
>>> org.netbeans.libs.clank
>>>
>>> It is not at the given location.
>>>
>>> Same message different location:
>>>
>>> /netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
>>> exist:
>>>
>>> first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
>>> ant via commandline.
>>>
>>>
>>> I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
>>> Or can I config something?
>>>
>>> Doku would be also fine. :)
>>>
>>> Thanks any help.
>>>
>>> On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>
 Get the code to compile. :-)

 That's what I'm working on now.

 Gj

 On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> What are the tasks to do?
>
> I help if I can.
>
> On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>> You can use openbeans.org.
>>
>> Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in
>> my fork
>> right now:
>>
>> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
> birger...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for
>>> C++
>>> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
>>> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
>>> Netbeans.
>>>
>>> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is
>>> there
>>> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
>>> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to
>>> support
>>> Apache Netbeans?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Birger
>>>
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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-06 Thread Jan Lahoda
On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 5:19 AM Ivan Soleimanipour <
ivan.soleimanip...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> This is odd.
> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx et-al is a module that's part of the "Studio"
> closed-source product.
> Maybe some kind of stub was added later on. My copy of the NB repo is is
> all pre-apache and even older and it doesn't
> have these modules.
> Maybe Oracle accidentally gave away the C++ from Studio as opposed to
> plain NB.
>

FWIW, the cnd.debugger.dbx module was actually part of the NetBeans
repository:
http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/default/cnd.debugger.dbx

And it is part of the donation, I believe, but Geertjan deleted it:
https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans/commit/87a0e772aa34c308717d6522982810267aca54a7

presumably because it has problematic dependencies.


> What apache repo/branch is this new batch of giveaways which includes C++?
> I'll try and look at this module and
> maybe it'll jog my memory/clear things up.
>

I believe Geertjan's working branch is here:
https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans

Jan


>
>
> On 2/6/20 1:50 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> > Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
> > get a notification if you change something ;)
> >
> > Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:
> >
> > cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx
> >
> > In the repo there is
> >
> > cnd.debugger.common2
> > cnd.debugger.gdb2
> >
> > maybe similar case?
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> >> Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to
> build.
> >>
> >> where do I find the following definition?
> >>
> >> netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
> >> org.netbeans.libs.clank
> >>
> >> It is not at the given location.
> >>
> >> Same message different location:
> >>
> >> /netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
> >> exist:
> >>
> >> first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
> >> ant via commandline.
> >>
> >>
> >> I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
> >> Or can I config something?
> >>
> >> Doku would be also fine. :)
> >>
> >> Thanks any help.
> >>
> >> On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >>
> >>> Get the code to compile. :-)
> >>>
> >>> That's what I'm working on now.
> >>>
> >>> Gj
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> >>>
>  What are the tasks to do?
> 
>  I help if I can.
> 
>  On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > You can use openbeans.org.
> >
> > Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my
> fork
> > right now:
> >
> > https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
>  birger...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
> >> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
> >> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
> >> Netbeans.
> >>
> >> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
> >> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
> >> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to
> support
> >> Apache Netbeans?
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Birger
> >>
> >>
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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-06 Thread Ivan Soleimanipour

This is odd.
cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx et-al is a module that's part of the "Studio" 
closed-source product.
Maybe some kind of stub was added later on. My copy of the NB repo is is all 
pre-apache and even older and it doesn't
have these modules.
Maybe Oracle accidentally gave away the C++ from Studio as opposed to plain NB.

What apache repo/branch is this new batch of giveaways which includes C++? I'll 
try and look at this module and
maybe it'll jog my memory/clear things up.


On 2/6/20 1:50 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
get a notification if you change something ;)

Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:

cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx

In the repo there is

cnd.debugger.common2
cnd.debugger.gdb2

maybe similar case?

All the best

Peter

On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to build.

where do I find the following definition?

netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
org.netbeans.libs.clank

It is not at the given location.

Same message different location:

/netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
exist:

first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
ant via commandline.


I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
Or can I config something?

Doku would be also fine. :)

Thanks any help.

On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:


Get the code to compile. :-)

That's what I'm working on now.

Gj

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:


What are the tasks to do?

I help if I can.

On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

You can use openbeans.org.

Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork
right now:

https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans

Gj

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <

birger...@gmail.com>

wrote:


Hi,


Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
Netbeans.

But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support
Apache Netbeans?


Best regards,
Birger

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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Feel free to change everything completely -- though a clue might be to take
a look at a the installation directory of a full 8.2 distribution (or a
C/C++ specific distribution of 8.2), to see what exactly (in JARs) is in
the folders 'cnd', 'cndext', and 'dlight' and then try to mirror that in
your clone (in NetBeans module projects).

Gj

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 11:03 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> I see. I had hopes that still one got lost in the merge.
>
> I will try to find a solution. Thanks for the feedback.
>
>
> On 06.02.20 22:57, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > Yes, heaps of things to figure out, far from anywhere where I have
> answers
> > to your questions right now.
> >
> > All that's been added is 'cnd', 'cndext', and 'dlight'. All answers to
> your
> > questions will be in one/more of these.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:51 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
> >> get a notification if you change something ;)
> >>
> >> Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:
> >>
> >> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx
> >>
> >> In the repo there is
> >>
> >> cnd.debugger.common2
> >> cnd.debugger.gdb2
> >>
> >> maybe similar case?
> >>
> >> All the best
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> >>> Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to
> >> build.
> >>> where do I find the following definition?
> >>>
> >>> netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
> >>> org.netbeans.libs.clank
> >>>
> >>> It is not at the given location.
> >>>
> >>> Same message different location:
> >>>
> >>> /netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
> >>> exist:
> >>>
> >>> first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
> >>> ant via commandline.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
> >>> Or can I config something?
> >>>
> >>> Doku would be also fine. :)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks any help.
> >>>
> >>> On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >>>
>  Get the code to compile. :-)
> 
>  That's what I'm working on now.
> 
>  Gj
> 
>  On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> > What are the tasks to do?
> >
> > I help if I can.
> >
> > On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >> You can use openbeans.org.
> >>
> >> Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my
> >> fork
> >> right now:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
> > birger...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for
> C++
> >>> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
> >>> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
> >>> Netbeans.
> >>>
> >>> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is
> there
> >>> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
> >>> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to
> >> support
> >>> Apache Netbeans?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Birger
> >>>
> >>>
> -
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> >>>
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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-06 Thread Peter Kovacs
I see. I had hopes that still one got lost in the merge.

I will try to find a solution. Thanks for the feedback.


On 06.02.20 22:57, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Yes, heaps of things to figure out, far from anywhere where I have answers
> to your questions right now.
>
> All that's been added is 'cnd', 'cndext', and 'dlight'. All answers to your
> questions will be in one/more of these.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:51 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
>> get a notification if you change something ;)
>>
>> Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:
>>
>> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx
>>
>> In the repo there is
>>
>> cnd.debugger.common2
>> cnd.debugger.gdb2
>>
>> maybe similar case?
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to
>> build.
>>> where do I find the following definition?
>>>
>>> netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
>>> org.netbeans.libs.clank
>>>
>>> It is not at the given location.
>>>
>>> Same message different location:
>>>
>>> /netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
>>> exist:
>>>
>>> first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
>>> ant via commandline.
>>>
>>>
>>> I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
>>> Or can I config something?
>>>
>>> Doku would be also fine. :)
>>>
>>> Thanks any help.
>>>
>>> On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>
 Get the code to compile. :-)

 That's what I'm working on now.

 Gj

 On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> What are the tasks to do?
>
> I help if I can.
>
> On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>> You can use openbeans.org.
>>
>> Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my
>> fork
>> right now:
>>
>> https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
> birger...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
>>> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
>>> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
>>> Netbeans.
>>>
>>> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
>>> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
>>> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to
>> support
>>> Apache Netbeans?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Birger
>>>
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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-06 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, heaps of things to figure out, far from anywhere where I have answers
to your questions right now.

All that's been added is 'cnd', 'cndext', and 'dlight'. All answers to your
questions will be in one/more of these.

Gj

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:51 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
> get a notification if you change something ;)
>
> Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:
>
> cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx
>
> In the repo there is
>
> cnd.debugger.common2
> cnd.debugger.gdb2
>
> maybe similar case?
>
> All the best
>
> Peter
>
> On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> > Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to
> build.
> >
> > where do I find the following definition?
> >
> > netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
> > org.netbeans.libs.clank
> >
> > It is not at the given location.
> >
> > Same message different location:
> >
> > /netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
> > exist:
> >
> > first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
> > ant via commandline.
> >
> >
> > I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
> > Or can I config something?
> >
> > Doku would be also fine. :)
> >
> > Thanks any help.
> >
> > On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >
> >> Get the code to compile. :-)
> >>
> >> That's what I'm working on now.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> >>
> >>> What are the tasks to do?
> >>>
> >>> I help if I can.
> >>>
> >>> On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>  You can use openbeans.org.
> 
>  Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my
> fork
>  right now:
> 
>  https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans
> 
>  Gj
> 
>  On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
> >>> birger...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
> > projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
> > eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
> > Netbeans.
> >
> > But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
> > some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
> > plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to
> support
> > Apache Netbeans?
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Birger
> >
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Re: build failure cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx now missing ;)

2020-02-06 Thread Peter Kovacs
Thanks for the checking of missing builds. I have to figure out if I can
get a notification if you change something ;)

Now I got the Issue that following dependency is missing:

cnd/cnd.debugger.dbx

In the repo there is

cnd.debugger.common2
cnd.debugger.gdb2

maybe similar case?

All the best

Peter

On 06.02.20 15:40, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> Hmm, I am stuck. I cloned the github repo as suggested and tried to build.
>
> where do I find the following definition?
>
> netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:101: No dependent module
> org.netbeans.libs.clank
>
> It is not at the given location.
>
> Same message different location:
>
> /netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:256: Cannot resolve libs.clank. Neither one
> exist:
>
> first message I get whentrying to build with netbeans. Second one with
> ant via commandline.
>
>
> I do not have clank, is there a case where we lookup what isavailable?
> Or can I config something?
>
> Doku would be also fine. :)
>
> Thanks any help.
>
> On 06.02.20 13:12, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
>> Get the code to compile. :-)
>>
>> That's what I'm working on now.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>
>>> What are the tasks to do?
>>>
>>> I help if I can.
>>>
>>> On 06.02.20 12:40, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
 You can use openbeans.org.

 Or join me in working on bring C/C++ to Apache NetBeans, it's in my fork
 right now:

 https://github.com/geertjanw/netbeans

 Gj

 On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:33 PM Birger Skogeng Pedersen <
>>> birger...@gmail.com>
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Over the last years, I've started using Netbeans exclusively for C++
> projects. So I've been on 8.2 ever since it was released, and I'm
> eagerly waiting to start using (and reporting issues of) Apache
> Netbeans.
>
> But when can I start using C++ plugin with Apache Netbeans? Is there
> some specific version of Apache Netbeans that will support the C++
> plugin? Or is it the other way around, C++ plugin devs need to support
> Apache Netbeans?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Birger
>
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