Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3

2018-05-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Mark Struberg 
wrote:

> hi folks!
>
> Had a talk with Jaroslav this morning at GeeCON about tasks we need to
> resolve befor the next release.
>
> I just looked up the old thread. Those are the tickets we still need to
> address.
>


The ones you point to seem fixed?

Thanks,

Gj



> Guess Geertjan is having an eye on them anyway.
> I think it will be easier if we assign them a fix version of the upcoming
> release.
> So we do not easily forget them.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
> > Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
> >
> > Von: Geertjan Wielenga 
> > Betreff: Aw: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3
> > Datum: 19. Februar 2018 um 11:40:16 MEZ
> > An: "gene...@incubator.apache.org" 
> > Antwort an: gene...@incubator.apache.org
> >
> > Here are the issues created as promised:
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-305
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-410
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-411
> >
> > Also tracked here:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta+rc3
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks a lot, these should be trivial to fix, will make issues for all
> and
> >> merge for the next release.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >>
> >> On Friday, February 16, 2018, Justin Mclean 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I know the vote is over but you may want to fix this issues I noticed
> >>> before the next release:
> >>> - How are these wav files licensed? [8]
> >>> - Looks like you make have a dependancy on a 4 clause BSD license. [9]
> >>> That’s Category X and not allowed.
> >>>
> >>> BTW I would of voted -1 on this release as it contains compiled source
> >>> code [1][2][3][4][5][6][7]
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Justin
> >>>
> >>> 1 ./autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupd
> >>> ate/data/dummy-signed-twice.jar
> >>> 2 ./autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupd
> >>> ate/data/dummy-signed.jar
> >>> 3 ./classfile/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/modules/classfile/dat
> >>> afiles/WithLambda.classx
> >>> 4 ./classfile/test/unit/src/regression/datafiles/left-square.class
> >>> 5 ./classfile/test/unit/src/regression/datafiles/SwitchData.class
> >>> 6 ./classfile/test/unit/src/regression/datafiles/test91098.class
> >>> 7 ./nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications/T
> >>> estJDK.class
> >>> 8 ./javafx2.samples/Xylophone/src/xylophone/Note?.wav
> >>> 9 ./incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-source.zip/spellchecker.
> >>> dictionary_en/external/ispell-enwl-3.1.20-license.txt
> >>> -
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> >>>
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NETBEANS-312: how to fix patches removing license headers?

2018-05-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all,

I'd like to get ahead of a discussion we'll inevitable end up in if we
don't deal with this before we try to do the release:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-312

That issue comes from the IPMC review by Justin McLean for the 2nd attempt
at the Beta release:

https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5fdb996c8b25e5c48c47e4eca3942b656f690694d767d795524cc960@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E

The files in question are:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/css.lib/src/org/netbeans/modules/css/lib/antlrv4.patch

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/html.validation/external/validator.patch

My questions are:

-- what is the problem that is being addressed here, i.e., what does "this
patch file seems to be removing a GPL/CDDL header" and "this patch seems to
be removing a MIT license header" mean?

-- once we know what that means, what can be done to fix the problem?

-- is this a requirement for fixing as a condition for releasing an
incubator release or does it only become relevant once we try to graduate
from the incubator?

Thanks,

Gj


NETBEANS-410: Dealing with the remaining TestJDK.class

2018-05-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all,

Re: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-410

There's still one .class file that we have not solved yet:

nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications/TestJDK.class

It is still present:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications

See the related comments by IPMC member Justin Mclean, as part of his rc3
evaluation:

https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/73ce8a13d5c13b56c300e4aad1e9e9bc8351ea6e836f5dc60a55cfaa@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E

How can we solve this, i.e., can we remove this and if not what can be done
here?

Thanks,

Gj


Re: NetBeans 2018W18 Weekly Report

2018-05-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
It's a really cool idea to have a weekly update like this.

Gj

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 12:03 AM, Emilian Bold 
wrote:

> This seems interesting. The mailing list seems like the proper place, I
> would certainly not be reading about it on the wiki right now.
>
> I assume there's a script generating all this and you're not doing it
> manually.
>
> --emi
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>
> On 8 May 2018 7:45 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi  wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I would like to draw a snapshot of our project regarding issues and Pull
> >
> > requests, etc.
> >
> > I'm not sure if the this format (e-mail on the mailing list) is the best
> >
> > place, I'd rather put it on the wiki, as rich content is not really
> >
> > supported here.
> >
> > 584 open issues: 383 bugs, 122 Improvements, 34 feature requests, 21
> >
> > tasks and 8 wishes
> >
> > From these issues: 3 blockers, 20 critical, 452 major, 96 minor and 13
> >
> > trivial.
> >
> > In our repository we have 31 Pull Requests which is in sync with the 28
> >
> > open issues with PRs
> >
> > Regarding NetBeans 9.0
> >
> > Blockers: 3
> >
> > Not WEAVED critical issues: 18
> >
> > Most wanted Issue is still JUnit 5.0 support
> >
> > Topic of the Week:
> >
> > -   Javaone 2018
> > -   (Git) Diff Window horizontal space rescue
> > -   NETBEANS-467: maven artifacts for Apache NetBeans Platform need to
> >
> > be created and hosted
> >
>
>
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Re: NetBeans 2018W18 Weekly Report

2018-05-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi John,

Great. Indeed, JUnit 5 support is highly desired, if we can get something
in already for the 9.0 release, that would be nice to have -- and once your
starting point is merged and your plans are discussed in a thread here,
more will join in I'm sure.

Gj

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 5:11 PM, John McDonnell 
wrote:

> I realised that I haven't been pushing my JUnit 5 changes to my fork.
>
> I'll do this over the next day or so, and start marking on the confluence
> page what functionality I seem to have implemented, and whats remaining.
>
> If people want to help out, your more than welcome to :)
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> On 8 May 2018 at 19:48, Antonio  wrote:
>
> > Hi Laszlo,
> >
> > It would be great to have a weekly/bi-weekly report.
> >
> > You can create a "news" section on the website and add some
> > asciidoc/markdown stuff there. Or maybe we should post this in our blog?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Antonio
> >
> >
> > On 08/05/18 18:45, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> >
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I would like to draw a snapshot of our project regarding issues and Pull
> >> requests, etc.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if the this format (e-mail on the mailing list) is the best
> >> place, I'd rather put it on the wiki, as rich content is not really
> >> supported here.
> >>
> >> 584 open issues: 383 bugs, 122 Improvements, 34 feature requests, 21
> >> tasks and 8 wishes
> >>
> >>  From these issues: 3 blockers, 20 critical, 452 major, 96 minor and 13
> >> trivial.
> >>
> >> In our repository we have 31 Pull Requests which is in sync with the 28
> >> open issues with PRs
> >>
> >>
> >> Regarding NetBeans 9.0
> >>
> >> Blockers: 3
> >>
> >> Not WEAVED critical issues: 18
> >>
> >>
> >> Most wanted Issue is still JUnit 5.0 support
> >>
> >> Topic of the Week:
> >>
> >>   * Javaone 2018
> >>   * (Git) Diff Window horizontal space rescue
> >>   * NETBEANS-467: maven artifacts for Apache NetBeans Platform need to
> >> be created and hosted
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: NetBeans 2018W18 Weekly Report

2018-05-10 Thread John McDonnell
Need to tweak some stuff, was in a JUnit 5 chat room last night, found out
I made a slightly limited assumption around working out if a method is
testable or not, once that's resolved I'll commit and push :)

John

On 10 May 2018 at 09:40, Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Great. Indeed, JUnit 5 support is highly desired, if we can get something
> in already for the 9.0 release, that would be nice to have -- and once your
> starting point is merged and your plans are discussed in a thread here,
> more will join in I'm sure.
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 5:11 PM, John McDonnell 
> wrote:
>
> > I realised that I haven't been pushing my JUnit 5 changes to my fork.
> >
> > I'll do this over the next day or so, and start marking on the confluence
> > page what functionality I seem to have implemented, and whats remaining.
> >
> > If people want to help out, your more than welcome to :)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> > On 8 May 2018 at 19:48, Antonio  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Laszlo,
> > >
> > > It would be great to have a weekly/bi-weekly report.
> > >
> > > You can create a "news" section on the website and add some
> > > asciidoc/markdown stuff there. Or maybe we should post this in our
> blog?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Antonio
> > >
> > >
> > > On 08/05/18 18:45, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dear all,
> > >>
> > >> I would like to draw a snapshot of our project regarding issues and
> Pull
> > >> requests, etc.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not sure if the this format (e-mail on the mailing list) is the
> best
> > >> place, I'd rather put it on the wiki, as rich content is not really
> > >> supported here.
> > >>
> > >> 584 open issues: 383 bugs, 122 Improvements, 34 feature requests, 21
> > >> tasks and 8 wishes
> > >>
> > >>  From these issues: 3 blockers, 20 critical, 452 major, 96 minor and
> 13
> > >> trivial.
> > >>
> > >> In our repository we have 31 Pull Requests which is in sync with the
> 28
> > >> open issues with PRs
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Regarding NetBeans 9.0
> > >>
> > >> Blockers: 3
> > >>
> > >> Not WEAVED critical issues: 18
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Most wanted Issue is still JUnit 5.0 support
> > >>
> > >> Topic of the Week:
> > >>
> > >>   * Javaone 2018
> > >>   * (Git) Diff Window horizontal space rescue
> > >>   * NETBEANS-467: maven artifacts for Apache NetBeans Platform need to
> > >> be created and hosted
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: NetBeans 2018W18 Weekly Report

2018-05-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Very nice.

Gj

On Thursday, May 10, 2018, John McDonnell  wrote:

> Need to tweak some stuff, was in a JUnit 5 chat room last night, found out
> I made a slightly limited assumption around working out if a method is
> testable or not, once that's resolved I'll commit and push :)
>
> John
>
> On 10 May 2018 at 09:40, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Great. Indeed, JUnit 5 support is highly desired, if we can get something
> > in already for the 9.0 release, that would be nice to have -- and once
> your
> > starting point is merged and your plans are discussed in a thread here,
> > more will join in I'm sure.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 5:11 PM, John McDonnell  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I realised that I haven't been pushing my JUnit 5 changes to my fork.
> > >
> > > I'll do this over the next day or so, and start marking on the
> confluence
> > > page what functionality I seem to have implemented, and whats
> remaining.
> > >
> > > If people want to help out, your more than welcome to :)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On 8 May 2018 at 19:48, Antonio  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Laszlo,
> > > >
> > > > It would be great to have a weekly/bi-weekly report.
> > > >
> > > > You can create a "news" section on the website and add some
> > > > asciidoc/markdown stuff there. Or maybe we should post this in our
> > blog?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Antonio
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 08/05/18 18:45, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Dear all,
> > > >>
> > > >> I would like to draw a snapshot of our project regarding issues and
> > Pull
> > > >> requests, etc.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm not sure if the this format (e-mail on the mailing list) is the
> > best
> > > >> place, I'd rather put it on the wiki, as rich content is not really
> > > >> supported here.
> > > >>
> > > >> 584 open issues: 383 bugs, 122 Improvements, 34 feature requests, 21
> > > >> tasks and 8 wishes
> > > >>
> > > >>  From these issues: 3 blockers, 20 critical, 452 major, 96 minor and
> > 13
> > > >> trivial.
> > > >>
> > > >> In our repository we have 31 Pull Requests which is in sync with the
> > 28
> > > >> open issues with PRs
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Regarding NetBeans 9.0
> > > >>
> > > >> Blockers: 3
> > > >>
> > > >> Not WEAVED critical issues: 18
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Most wanted Issue is still JUnit 5.0 support
> > > >>
> > > >> Topic of the Week:
> > > >>
> > > >>   * Javaone 2018
> > > >>   * (Git) Diff Window horizontal space rescue
> > > >>   * NETBEANS-467: maven artifacts for Apache NetBeans Platform need
> to
> > > >> be created and hosted
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > 
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possible bug with dependency checker

2018-05-10 Thread Simon IJskes
I've looked around and cannot find the bug in jira, so i'm checking if 
it is already known.



When i build a project (target jar) with do.depend=true for a second 
time after clean, the following is thrown:


java.lang.ClassFormatError: Invalid Constant Pool entry Type 19
	at 
org.apache.tools.ant.taskdefs.optional.depend.constantpool.ConstantPoolEntry.readEntry(ConstantPoolEntry.java:180)


This is in the depend macro:

destdir="@{destdir}" excludes="${excludes}" includes="${includes}" 
srcdir="@{srcdir}">







The project is:
javac.source=10
javac.target=10
platform.active=JDK_10

The exception is thrown direct after opening build/classes/module-info.class

environment:
Product Version: Apache NetBeans IDE Dev (Build 
incubator-netbeans-release-285-on-20180502)

Java: 10.0.1; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 10.0.1+10
Runtime: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 10.0.1+10
System: Linux version 4.15.0-20-generic running on amd64; UTF-8; en_US (nb)


Groeten,
Simon





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Let's branch Apache NetBeans 9.0

2018-05-10 Thread Jiří Kovalský

Hi folks,

   since we only have two remaining 9.0 blockers [1] which are 
infrastructure related problems I suggest that we create 
releases/release90 branch from master. In order to fix #330 we need to 
update branding and test new location of the Update Center so I think 
the right time has come. :)


[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12343308

Opinions?

Thanks,
-Jirka

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Re: Let's branch Apache NetBeans 9.0

2018-05-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Makes sense.

Note there are several PRs that we need to include in the 9.0 release,
e.g., related to 'var' support, but we can push those to the branch after
merging into main.

Gj

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Jiří Kovalský 
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
>since we only have two remaining 9.0 blockers [1] which are
> infrastructure related problems I suggest that we create releases/release90
> branch from master. In order to fix #330 we need to update branding and
> test new location of the Update Center so I think the right time has come.
> :)
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12343308
>
> Opinions?
>
> Thanks,
> -Jirka
>
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Re: Let's branch Apache NetBeans 9.0

2018-05-10 Thread Sven Reimers
+1 for branching.

Concerning the var support PR's.. Do we already have a roadmap for the next
release? If it takes too long to integrate we could just move those fixes
to the next  (Patch-)Release..?

Sven

Geertjan Wielenga  schrieb am Do., 10.
Mai 2018, 12:39:

> Makes sense.
>
> Note there are several PRs that we need to include in the 9.0 release,
> e.g., related to 'var' support, but we can push those to the branch after
> merging into main.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Jiří Kovalský 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> >since we only have two remaining 9.0 blockers [1] which are
> > infrastructure related problems I suggest that we create
> releases/release90
> > branch from master. In order to fix #330 we need to update branding and
> > test new location of the Update Center so I think the right time has
> come.
> > :)
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12343308
> >
> > Opinions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Jirka
> >
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Re: AW: (Git) Diff Window horizontal space rescue

2018-05-10 Thread Eirik Bakke
> Closing the frame would dock the contained TopComponent "back".


Ah, not a bad idea! I assume dragging an additional tab into the frame
would make tabs appear again.

On 5/9/18, 6:59 PM, "Emilian Bold"  wrote:

>> That would be nice--but how would one dock the TopComponent again if
>>there is no tab to right-click or drag?
>
>Closing the frame would dock the contained TopComponent "back".
>
>> Personally I don't see a reason to change the way undocked top
>> compoents are displayed. I work with netbeans and so I'm either on a
>> large enough laptop screen (15,4 inch) or a dual head setup. In both
>> cases, the overhead for the tab is neglectable.
>
>This might be a tricky thing to implement.
>
>Still -- the whole purpose of this thread is to get rid of all these
>negligible components that keep eating vertical space and leave our users
>see 10 lines for diffs. The classical 80x25 terminal has better
>ergonomics...
>
>Tangentially, I also speculate users generally have a single undocked
>topcomponent floating which means that title tab is redundant.
>
>--emi
>
>--- Original Message ---
>
>On 5 May 2018 12:42 AM, Eirik Bakke  wrote:
>
>> That would be nice--but how would one dock the TopComponent again if
>>there is no tab to right-click or drag?
>> 
>> On MacOS, there's a "Window.style" client property that can be set to
>>"small", like this:
>> 
>> rootPane.putClientProperty("Window.style", "small");
>> 
>> (See 
>>https://developer.apple.com/library/content/technotes/tn2007/tn2196.html#
>>WINDOWS )
>> 
>> This makes the title bar take up much less space, and omits the window
>>title, while still allowing the window to be dragged by its frame,
>>maximized, and such. I use it in my own NetBeans app, for a "filter"
>>widget, seen here: https://pasteboard.co/HjFRlqT.png
>> 
>> Unfortunately, no equivalent exists on Windows. It would have to be
>>emulated with a custom-painted undecorated window (which would also have
>>to implement drag-to-resize logic).
>> 
>> -- Eirik
>> 
>> On 5/4/18, 1:34 PM, "Emilian Bold"
>>mailto:emilian.b...@protonmail.ch> wrote:
>> 
>> I think Chris is mentioning that a floating (editor-) topcomponent
>>still has a tab with the topcomponent title, even if it's the single
>>topcomponent. So, what Chris wants is that if you make the Diff
>>topcomponent floating, only the operating system frame has the title /
>>icon and there's no other tab from the Windows System API.
>> 
>> I'm actually wondering myself why there is no Windows System flag for
>>this thing... it seems an obvious need for some topcomponens eg.
>>floating palette window.
>> 
>> --emi
>> 
>> --- Original Message ---
>> 
>> On 4 May 2018 6:39 PM, Matthias Bläsing
>>mailto:mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Am Freitag, den 04.05.2018, 14:42 + schrieb Eirik Bakke:
>> 
>> > On the other hand, I think the Diff panel should remain a regular
>> > 
>> > TopComponent--those can be undocked, full-screened, moved to different
>> > 
>> > monitors, and so on. Making it into a Dialog is a step backwards, in
>>my
>> > 
>> > opinion. But the internal layout of the diff panel could certainly be
>> > 
>> > rearranged to save some space.
>> 
>> I aggree with this assessment. Modifying the diff view to be a dialog
>> 
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Re: AW: (Git) Diff Window horizontal space rescue

2018-05-10 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Am Mittwoch, den 09.05.2018, 18:59 -0400 schrieb Emilian Bold:
> > That would be nice--but how would one dock the TopComponent again
> > if there is no tab to right-click or drag?
> 
> Closing the frame would dock the contained TopComponent "back".

This breaks current behaviour where closing the window closes all
contained TopComponents. (This would reduce usability for me).

You will also loose the ability to group multiple floating windows
together, as you are loosing the drag-handle for the TC. (again for me
usability will suffer).

> 
> > Personally I don't see a reason to change the way undocked top
> > compoents are displayed. I work with netbeans and so I'm either on a
> > large enough laptop screen (15,4 inch) or a dual head setup. In both
> > cases, the overhead for the tab is neglectable.
> 
> This might be a tricky thing to implement.
> 
> Still -- the whole purpose of this thread is to get rid of all these
> negligible components that keep eating vertical space and leave our
> users see 10 lines for diffs. The classical 80x25 terminal has better
> ergonomics...
> 
> Tangentially, I also speculate users generally have a single undocked
> topcomponent floating which means that title tab is redundant.
> 

I gave the counter example and the tab serves as a drag-handle and
drop-zone for grouping. Gnome Terminal shows the problems - it shows
the "tabs" only when at least two tabs are present. If you want to
merge two windows into one window with two tabs. So the "optimization"
to hide tabs "when not needed" breaks another use-case. Sorry this
"usabily of 80x25 terminal is better" reference does not cut it.

You plan to optimize for the peep-hole case and I argue, that it is the
personal decision of the user to suffer from small screen real-estate.

In any-case this should be:

a) well planned and
b) configurable

Greetings

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Re: NETBEANS-410: Dealing with the remaining TestJDK.class

2018-05-10 Thread Emilian Bold
How do we know the license for TestJDK? Was it not owned by Oracle and donated?

Not sure where it's being used but by looking at the bytecode it's an 
absolutely trivial class we could rewrite at any time. It prints to System.out 
these system properties:

* java.version
* java.vm.version
* java.vendor
* os.name
* os.arch

--emi


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On 10 May 2018 11:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga  
wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Re: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-410
> 
> There's still one .class file that we have not solved yet:
> 
> nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications/TestJDK.class
> 
> It is still present:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications
> 
> See the related comments by IPMC member Justin Mclean, as part of his rc3
> 
> evaluation:
> 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/73ce8a13d5c13b56c300e4aad1e9e9bc8351ea6e836f5dc60a55cfaa@
> 
> How can we solve this, i.e., can we remove this and if not what can be done
> 
> here?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gj


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Re: NETBEANS-410: Dealing with the remaining TestJDK.class

2018-05-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Its not a question of licensing but of compiled source code not being
allowed to be in the release:

https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/73ce8a13d5c13b56c300e4aad1e9e9bc8351ea6e836f5dc60a55cfaa@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E

Gj


On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Emilian Bold 
wrote:

> How do we know the license for TestJDK? Was it not owned by Oracle and
> donated?
>
> Not sure where it's being used but by looking at the bytecode it's an
> absolutely trivial class we could rewrite at any time. It prints to
> System.out these system properties:
>
> * java.version
> * java.vm.version
> * java.vendor
> * os.name
> * os.arch
>
> --emi
>
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>
> On 10 May 2018 11:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga  com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Re: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-410
> >
> > There's still one .class file that we have not solved yet:
> >
> > nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications/TestJDK.class
> >
> > It is still present:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/
> master/nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications
> >
> > See the related comments by IPMC member Justin Mclean, as part of his rc3
> >
> > evaluation:
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/73ce8a13d5c13b56c300e4aad1e9e9
> bc8351ea6e836f5dc60a55cfaa@
> >
> > How can we solve this, i.e., can we remove this and if not what can be
> done
> >
> > here?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
>
>
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Re: AW: (Git) Diff Window horizontal space rescue

2018-05-10 Thread Emilian Bold
Not sure why you have to be so adamant about this.

I could add some flag per topcomponent that says 'no-individual-tab'. Then, if 
I have a floating window holding that single topcomponent it won't have the 
title bar.

For people that need or are used to the old style we could have a checkbox in 
options to 'always show a tab title'.

Depending on that flag, the closing behaviour would also change.

So, it's not something that disruptive.

>You plan to optimize for the peep-hole case and I argue, that it is the
> personal decision of the user to suffer from small screen real-estate.

:-)

I guess we also have to update the hardware system requirements of NetBeans and 
mention large screen real-estates.

> In any-case this should be:
>
> a) well planned and
> b) configurable

I kinda disagree with both.

The Window system API is not a gift from the gods. It's a glorified 
multi-split-pane which has some primitive drag and drop support.

So, I don't believe things have to be so well planned and I believe users would 
gladly enable and *enjoy* experimental features.

Also, design is about decisions too. We don't have to provide a configuration 
for everything under the Sun. We could just drop some old behaviour. People 
seem to use Gnome without that tab, they will use NetBeans just as well.

--emi

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On 10 May 2018 3:49 PM, Matthias Bläsing  wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, den 09.05.2018, 18:59 -0400 schrieb Emilian Bold:
> 
> > > That would be nice--but how would one dock the TopComponent again
> > > 
> > > if there is no tab to right-click or drag?
> > 
> > Closing the frame would dock the contained TopComponent "back".
> 
> This breaks current behaviour where closing the window closes all
> 
> contained TopComponents. (This would reduce usability for me).
> 
> You will also loose the ability to group multiple floating windows
> 
> together, as you are loosing the drag-handle for the TC. (again for me
> 
> usability will suffer).
> 
> > > Personally I don't see a reason to change the way undocked top
> > > 
> > > compoents are displayed. I work with netbeans and so I'm either on a
> > > 
> > > large enough laptop screen (15,4 inch) or a dual head setup. In both
> > > 
> > > cases, the overhead for the tab is neglectable.
> > 
> > This might be a tricky thing to implement.
> > 
> > Still -- the whole purpose of this thread is to get rid of all these
> > 
> > negligible components that keep eating vertical space and leave our
> > 
> > users see 10 lines for diffs. The classical 80x25 terminal has better
> > 
> > ergonomics...
> > 
> > Tangentially, I also speculate users generally have a single undocked
> > 
> > topcomponent floating which means that title tab is redundant.
> 
> I gave the counter example and the tab serves as a drag-handle and
> 
> drop-zone for grouping. Gnome Terminal shows the problems - it shows
> 
> the "tabs" only when at least two tabs are present. If you want to
> 
> merge two windows into one window with two tabs. So the "optimization"
> 
> to hide tabs "when not needed" breaks another use-case. Sorry this
> 
> "usabily of 80x25 terminal is better" reference does not cut it.
> 
> You plan to optimize for the peep-hole case and I argue, that it is the
> 
> personal decision of the user to suffer from small screen real-estate.
> 
> In any-case this should be:
> 
> a) well planned and
> 
> b) configurable
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Matthias
> 
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Re: NETBEANS-410: Dealing with the remaining TestJDK.class

2018-05-10 Thread Emilian Bold
What's stopping us to delete it: is the .class file used?

Like I've said, it's trivial. If we don't need it, let's delete it.

--emi

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On 10 May 2018 4:23 PM, Geertjan Wielenga  
wrote:

> Its not a question of licensing but of compiled source code not being allowed 
> to be in the release:
> 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/73ce8a13d5c13b56c300e4aad1e9e9bc8351ea6e836f5dc60a55cfaa@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> 
> Gj
> 
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Emilian Bold  
> wrote:
> 
> > How do we know the license for TestJDK? Was it not owned by Oracle and 
> > donated?
> > 
> > Not sure where it's being used but by looking at the bytecode it's an 
> > absolutely trivial class we could rewrite at any time. It prints to 
> > System.out these system properties:
> > 
> > * java.version
> > 
> > * java.vm.version
> > 
> > * java.vendor
> > 
> > * os.name
> > 
> > * os.arch
> > 
> > --emi
> > 
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > 
> > On 10 May 2018 11:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
> >  wrote:> Hi all,>> Re: 
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-410>> There's still one 
> > .class file that we have not solved yet:>> 
> > nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications/TestJDK.class>> It 
> > is still present:>> 
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications>>
> >  See the related comments by IPMC member Justin Mclean, as part of his 
> > rc3>> evaluation:>> 
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/73ce8a13d5c13b56c300e4aad1e9e9bc8351ea6e836f5dc60a55cfaa@
> > 
> > >> How can we solve this, i.e., can we remove this and if not what can be 
> > >> done>> here?>> Thanks,>> 
> > >> Gj-
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Re: NETBEANS-410: Dealing with the remaining TestJDK.class

2018-05-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
It is used here:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications/JavaUtils.java

...and here:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/wizard/components/actions/CreateMacOSAppLauncherAction.java

Gj


On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Emilian Bold 
wrote:

> What's stopping us to delete it: is the .class file used?
>
> Like I've said, it's trivial. If we don't need it, let's delete it.
>
> --emi
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>
> On 10 May 2018 4:23 PM, Geertjan Wielenga  com> wrote:
>
> > Its not a question of licensing but of compiled source code not being
> allowed to be in the release:
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/73ce8a13d5c13b56c300e4aad1e9e9
> bc8351ea6e836f5dc60a55cfaa@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Emilian Bold <
> emilian.b...@protonmail.ch> wrote:
> >
> > > How do we know the license for TestJDK? Was it not owned by Oracle and
> donated?
> > >
> > > Not sure where it's being used but by looking at the bytecode it's an
> absolutely trivial class we could rewrite at any time. It prints to
> System.out these system properties:
> > >
> > > * java.version
> > >
> > > * java.vm.version
> > >
> > > * java.vendor
> > >
> > > * os.name
> > >
> > > * os.arch
> > >
> > > --emi
> > >
> > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > >
> > > On 10 May 2018 11:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:> Hi all,>> Re:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-410>> There's still one
> .class file that we have not solved yet:>> nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/
> installer/utils/applications/TestJDK.class>> It is still present:>>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/
> master/nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications>> See the
> related comments by IPMC member Justin Mclean, as part of his rc3>>
> evaluation:>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> 73ce8a13d5c13b56c300e4aad1e9e9bc8351ea6e836f5dc60a55cfaa@ neral.incubator.apache.org>
> > >
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Re: Let's branch Apache NetBeans 9.0

2018-05-10 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 10 May 2018 at 13:10 Sven Reimers  wrote:

> +1 for branching.
>
> Concerning the var support PR's.. Do we already have a roadmap for the next
> release? If it takes too long to integrate we could just move those fixes
> to the next  (Patch-)Release..?
>

+1 to branching, and perhaps a more release early, release often roadmap to
keep the momentum up?!  Perhaps even time-based - it seems to be all the
rage at the moment! ;-)

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Re: NETBEANS-410: Dealing with the remaining TestJDK.class

2018-05-10 Thread Jan Lahoda
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Emilian Bold 
wrote:

> What's stopping us to delete it: is the .class file used?
>
> Like I've said, it's trivial. If we don't need it, let's delete it.
>

I think it is less about what the class is doing, and more how it was
compiled. The classfile version is 45.3, i.e. JDK 1.1 AFAIK. Presumably the
reason is to detect all JDKs installed on a system. As long as we compile
using JDK 8, we may be able to get the same outcome by compiling with
"-target 1.1" (if we are careful enough not to use APIs not in JDK 1.1).
Another example would be java.j2seplatform/probesrc, which is being
compiled in java.j2seplatform/build.xml.

Jan


> --emi
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>
> On 10 May 2018 4:23 PM, Geertjan Wielenga  com> wrote:
>
> > Its not a question of licensing but of compiled source code not being
> allowed to be in the release:
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/73ce8a13d5c13b56c300e4aad1e9e9
> bc8351ea6e836f5dc60a55cfaa@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Emilian Bold <
> emilian.b...@protonmail.ch> wrote:
> >
> > > How do we know the license for TestJDK? Was it not owned by Oracle and
> donated?
> > >
> > > Not sure where it's being used but by looking at the bytecode it's an
> absolutely trivial class we could rewrite at any time. It prints to
> System.out these system properties:
> > >
> > > * java.version
> > >
> > > * java.vm.version
> > >
> > > * java.vendor
> > >
> > > * os.name
> > >
> > > * os.arch
> > >
> > > --emi
> > >
> > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > >
> > > On 10 May 2018 11:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:> Hi all,>> Re:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-410>> There's still one
> .class file that we have not solved yet:>> nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/
> installer/utils/applications/TestJDK.class>> It is still present:>>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/
> master/nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications>> See the
> related comments by IPMC member Justin Mclean, as part of his rc3>>
> evaluation:>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> 73ce8a13d5c13b56c300e4aad1e9e9bc8351ea6e836f5dc60a55cfaa@ neral.incubator.apache.org>
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Re: AW: (Git) Diff Window horizontal space rescue

2018-05-10 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.2018, 09:25 -0400 schrieb Emilian Bold:
> Not sure why you have to be so adamant about this.

Because you try to force your use-case down my throat. Yes I choose my
hardware to get my work done and this worked good with netbeans. All I
heard till now torpedes this. This is why I'm speaking out against it.

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Re: AW: (Git) Diff Window horizontal space rescue

2018-05-10 Thread Peter Steele
If there are configurable options to change it why do you care? You can
just keep the settings how you like it and you will be happy. From what I
read in the chain it sounds like this was a suggestion a while back.

On Thu, 10 May 2018, 15:17 Matthias Bläsing, 
wrote:

> Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.2018, 09:25 -0400 schrieb Emilian Bold:
> > Not sure why you have to be so adamant about this.
>
> Because you try to force your use-case down my throat. Yes I choose my
> hardware to get my work done and this worked good with netbeans. All I
> heard till now torpedes this. This is why I'm speaking out against it.
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Re: AW: (Git) Diff Window horizontal space rescue

2018-05-10 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 10 May 2018 at 14:25 Emilian Bold 
wrote:

> Not sure why you have to be so adamant about this.
>
> I could add some flag per topcomponent that says 'no-individual-tab'.
> Then, if I have a floating window holding that single topcomponent it won't
> have the title bar.
>

Play nice people! ;-)

I actually agree with both of you.  I'd be really annoyed if we lost the
current tab behaviour, and yet also would love an option to selectively
open top components in separate windows without any tab support,
particularly within my RCP app rather than IDE.

Is the problem that we conflate two ideas in Float?  One is SDI and the
other is MDI across multiple windows.  Perhaps we need different options
with Float (or Undock) being single window, and an option more like New
Document Tab Group that opens in a new tab-able window?

But while we only have one option, my vote is on keeping the current
behaviour.

Best wishes,

Neil


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Jigsaw modules as modules in NetBeans

2018-05-10 Thread Sven Reimers
Hi all,

I remember a discussion with Jan at a Munich event about the possibility of
using jigsaw modules within NetBeans.

With the upcoming new JavaFX SDK (downloadable now) as modules this becomes
an interesting approach for integrating JavaFX and NetBeans..

Any pointers maybe even a working prototype?

Sven


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3

2018-05-10 Thread Mark Struberg
Yes, last one (305) seems to now also got marked as resolved just a few hours 
ago.
One more stone out of the way for a next NB release.

txs and LieGrue,
strub

> Am 10.05.2018 um 09:21 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga 
> :
> 
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Mark Struberg 
> wrote:
> 
>> hi folks!
>> 
>> Had a talk with Jaroslav this morning at GeeCON about tasks we need to
>> resolve befor the next release.
>> 
>> I just looked up the old thread. Those are the tickets we still need to
>> address.
>> 
> 
> 
> The ones you point to seem fixed?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gj
> 
> 
> 
>> Guess Geertjan is having an eye on them anyway.
>> I think it will be easier if we assign them a fix version of the upcoming
>> release.
>> So we do not easily forget them.
>> 
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>> 
>>> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
>>> 
>>> Von: Geertjan Wielenga 
>>> Betreff: Aw: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3
>>> Datum: 19. Februar 2018 um 11:40:16 MEZ
>>> An: "gene...@incubator.apache.org" 
>>> Antwort an: gene...@incubator.apache.org
>>> 
>>> Here are the issues created as promised:
>>> 
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-305
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-410
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-411
>>> 
>>> Also tracked here:
>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
>> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta+rc3
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> 
>>> Gj
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
>>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks a lot, these should be trivial to fix, will make issues for all
>> and
 merge for the next release.
 
 Gj
 
 
 On Friday, February 16, 2018, Justin Mclean 
 wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> I know the vote is over but you may want to fix this issues I noticed
> before the next release:
> - How are these wav files licensed? [8]
> - Looks like you make have a dependancy on a 4 clause BSD license. [9]
> That’s Category X and not allowed.
> 
> BTW I would of voted -1 on this release as it contains compiled source
> code [1][2][3][4][5][6][7]
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 1 ./autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupd
> ate/data/dummy-signed-twice.jar
> 2 ./autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupd
> ate/data/dummy-signed.jar
> 3 ./classfile/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/modules/classfile/dat
> afiles/WithLambda.classx
> 4 ./classfile/test/unit/src/regression/datafiles/left-square.class
> 5 ./classfile/test/unit/src/regression/datafiles/SwitchData.class
> 6 ./classfile/test/unit/src/regression/datafiles/test91098.class
> 7 ./nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications/T
> estJDK.class
> 8 ./javafx2.samples/Xylophone/src/xylophone/Note?.wav
> 9 ./incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-source.zip/spellchecker.
> dictionary_en/external/ispell-enwl-3.1.20-license.txt
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3

2018-05-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Excellent.

Gj

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Mark Struberg 
wrote:

> Yes, last one (305) seems to now also got marked as resolved just a few
> hours ago.
> One more stone out of the way for a next NB release.
>
> txs and LieGrue,
> strub
>
> > Am 10.05.2018 um 09:21 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>:
> >
> > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Mark Struberg  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> hi folks!
> >>
> >> Had a talk with Jaroslav this morning at GeeCON about tasks we need to
> >> resolve befor the next release.
> >>
> >> I just looked up the old thread. Those are the tickets we still need to
> >> address.
> >>
> >
> >
> > The ones you point to seem fixed?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> >
> >> Guess Geertjan is having an eye on them anyway.
> >> I think it will be easier if we assign them a fix version of the
> upcoming
> >> release.
> >> So we do not easily forget them.
> >>
> >> LieGrue,
> >> strub
> >>
> >>> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
> >>>
> >>> Von: Geertjan Wielenga 
> >>> Betreff: Aw: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc3
> >>> Datum: 19. Februar 2018 um 11:40:16 MEZ
> >>> An: "gene...@incubator.apache.org" 
> >>> Antwort an: gene...@incubator.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> Here are the issues created as promised:
> >>>
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-305
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-410
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-411
> >>>
> >>> Also tracked here:
> >>>
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> >> Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta+rc3
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again,
> >>>
> >>> Gj
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 5:26 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> >>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Thanks a lot, these should be trivial to fix, will make issues for all
> >> and
>  merge for the next release.
> 
>  Gj
> 
> 
>  On Friday, February 16, 2018, Justin Mclean  >
>  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I know the vote is over but you may want to fix this issues I noticed
> > before the next release:
> > - How are these wav files licensed? [8]
> > - Looks like you make have a dependancy on a 4 clause BSD license.
> [9]
> > That’s Category X and not allowed.
> >
> > BTW I would of voted -1 on this release as it contains compiled
> source
> > code [1][2][3][4][5][6][7]
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
> > 1 ./autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupd
> > ate/data/dummy-signed-twice.jar
> > 2 ./autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupd
> > ate/data/dummy-signed.jar
> > 3 ./classfile/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/modules/classfile/dat
> > afiles/WithLambda.classx
> > 4 ./classfile/test/unit/src/regression/datafiles/left-square.class
> > 5 ./classfile/test/unit/src/regression/datafiles/SwitchData.class
> > 6 ./classfile/test/unit/src/regression/datafiles/test91098.class
> > 7 ./nbi/engine/src/org/netbeans/installer/utils/applications/T
> > estJDK.class
> > 8 ./javafx2.samples/Xylophone/src/xylophone/Note?.wav
> > 9 ./incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-beta-source.zip/spellchecker.
> > dictionary_en/external/ispell-enwl-3.1.20-license.txt
> > 
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Re: AW: (Git) Diff Window horizontal space rescue

2018-05-10 Thread Emilian Bold
This email thread is also a form of brainstorming. I have no problems exploring 
ideas even if they never get implemented.

Starting from my plan of increasing the vertical space available for actual 
code in the diff top component, several other ideas were explored:

* the fact the even if we make the diff topcomponent float, we still waste 
space with that tab title (unlike IntelliJ).

** then we went into why the Window System doesn't handle this usecase

*** then we went into how this usecase might be implemented and how docking, 
closing would work

***… except it doesn't need to if people would just buy bigger monitors

* that people end up having multiple diff topcomponents open, even for the same 
group of files and some re-use might help

* syncing selection between the git(?) topcomponent and diff

--emi


‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On 10 May 2018 5:20 PM, Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Thu, 10 May 2018 at 14:25 Emilian Bold emilian.b...@protonmail.ch
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Not sure why you have to be so adamant about this.
> > 
> > I could add some flag per topcomponent that says 'no-individual-tab'.
> > 
> > Then, if I have a floating window holding that single topcomponent it won't
> > 
> > have the title bar.
> 
> Play nice people! ;-)
> 
> I actually agree with both of you. I'd be really annoyed if we lost the
> 
> current tab behaviour, and yet also would love an option to selectively
> 
> open top components in separate windows without any tab support,
> 
> particularly within my RCP app rather than IDE.
> 
> Is the problem that we conflate two ideas in Float? One is SDI and the
> 
> other is MDI across multiple windows. Perhaps we need different options
> 
> with Float (or Undock) being single window, and an option more like New
> 
> Document Tab Group that opens in a new tab-able window?
> 
> But while we only have one option, my vote is on keeping the current
> 
> behaviour.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> ---
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: NETBEANS-312: how to fix patches removing license headers?

2018-05-10 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi,

I added my evaluation to the bug and created a related PR.

Greetings

Matthias

Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.2018, 10:15 +0200 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'd like to get ahead of a discussion we'll inevitable end up in if
> we
> don't deal with this before we try to do the release:
> 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-312
> 
> That issue comes from the IPMC review by Justin McLean for the 2nd
> attempt
> at the Beta release:
> 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5fdb996c8b25e5c48c47e4eca3942b65
> 6f690694d767d795524cc960@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> 
> The files in question are:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/css.lib/src/
> org/netbeans/modules/css/lib/antlrv4.patch
> 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/html.validat
> ion/external/validator.patch
> 
> My questions are:
> 
> -- what is the problem that is being addressed here, i.e., what does
> "this
> patch file seems to be removing a GPL/CDDL header" and "this patch
> seems to
> be removing a MIT license header" mean?
> 
> -- once we know what that means, what can be done to fix the problem?
> 
> -- is this a requirement for fixing as a condition for releasing an
> incubator release or does it only become relevant once we try to
> graduate
> from the incubator?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gj





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[Hibernate] - Issue Netbeans-171

2018-05-10 Thread Wilmar Giraldo
Hi.

There is a plan for a new Hibernate module?


-- 
*Wilmar A. Giraldo Sanchez*