Re: Editing comments in Jira

2018-08-28 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Le 27/08/2018 à 11:46, Mathieu Lirzin a écrit :

Hello Jacques,

Jacques Le Roux  writes:


While reviewing the later I stumbled upon the "Editing comments in
Jira" information block. It says

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[...]

So should we keep this sentence,? And if not, should we keep this
whole information block?

The JIRA summary wall [1] is a convenient way to follow OFBiz
development activity.  IMO we should remove this information block and
recommend using JIRA Web Interface instead which doesn't have this
updated comment issue.   should only be
mentioned as an alternative in “degraded” mode.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/OFBIZ/summary


Thanks for your feedback Mathieu,

This info block relates to people using MLs to follow Jira progress. Using the summary could be an alternative indeed. Though I'm not sure everyone 
agree about that. Including myself, I'm an eager MLs user, but I have no problems with edited comments. So let's wait other feedbacks...


Jacques



Re: Editing comments in Jira

2018-08-27 Thread Mathieu Lirzin
Hello Jacques,

Jacques Le Roux  writes:

> While reviewing the later I stumbled upon the "Editing comments in
> Jira" information block. It says
>
><easy to read edited comments from a mailing list and most people
>read comments from the dev ML (Jira issues are redirected to dev
>ML).>>
>
[...]
> So should we keep this sentence,? And if not, should we keep this
> whole information block?

The JIRA summary wall [1] is a convenient way to follow OFBiz
development activity.  IMO we should remove this information block and
recommend using JIRA Web Interface instead which doesn't have this
updated comment issue.   should only be
mentioned as an alternative in “degraded” mode.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/OFBIZ/summary

-- 
Mathieu Lirzin
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Re: Editing comments in Jira

2018-08-27 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Le 27/08/2018 à 10:11, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :


Hi,

I'm in the process of trying to reduce frictions about some acts we not all 
agree about sometimes.

From my experience, establishing best practices, policy or rules does much help about that. I think the wiki is still the best place for such 
information, notably the


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Contributors+Best+Practices

and

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Committers+Roles+and+Responsibilities

pages.

While reviewing the later I stumbled upon the "Editing comments in Jira" 
information block. It says

<>

But, if I'm not wrong (I could be abused by my email clients filters) now the comments are no longer redirected to dev ML but *only* to the "new" 
notificati...@ofbiz.apache.org address.


So should we keep this sentence,? And if not, should we keep this whole 
information block?

Thanks for your attention

Jacques
BTW, thinking about it, if we keep this information block, it should not be in the committers page but contributors one. I'll check for other possible 
such cases.


Jacques



Editing comments in Jira

2018-08-27 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Hi,

I'm in the process of trying to reduce frictions about some acts we not all 
agree about sometimes.

From my experience, establishing best practices, policy or rules does much help about that. I think the wiki is still the best place for such 
information, notably the


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Contributors+Best+Practices

and

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Committers+Roles+and+Responsibilities

pages.

While reviewing the later I stumbled upon the "Editing comments in Jira" 
information block. It says

   <>

But, if I'm not wrong (I could be abused by my email clients filters) now the comments are no longer redirected to dev ML but *only* to the "new"  
notificati...@ofbiz.apache.org address.


So should we keep this sentence,? And if not, should we keep this whole 
information block?

Thanks for your attention

Jacques



[RESOLVED]Re: Editing comments in Jira

2016-07-14 Thread Jacques Le Roux

I came to the conclusion that nobody longer cares

Jacques


Le 06/07/2016 à 11:25, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

Hi,

Long ago we decided about this policy which is written as an info block at 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Contributors+Best+Practices


>


It has been lost for some time. I know some committers (Scott for instance) really wanted this way of doing. I wonder know if we should continue to 
advice to respect it or if we should discard it.


Opininons?

Jacques





Editing comments in Jira

2016-07-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Hi,

Long ago we decided about this policy which is written as an info block at 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Contributors+Best+Practices


>


It has been lost for some time. I know some committers (Scott for instance) really wanted this way of doing. I wonder know if we should continue to 
advice to respect it or if we should discard it.


Opininons?

Jacques


Editing Comments on JIRA

2007-12-17 Thread Scott Gray
Hi All

I'm noticing an increased habit of editing comments on jira rather than just
posting a new comment with a clarification.  While it's not that big of a
deal, I find when the email comes through from jira it's difficult to figure
what has actually changed from when I first read the comment and usually I
don't bother.  IMO it's much better if you just post a new comment to
clarify what you were initially trying to say.

Just my opinion and of course you're all free to do as you please :-)

Regards
Scott


Re: Editing Comments on JIRA

2007-12-17 Thread David E Jones


On Dec 17, 2007, at 1:16 AM, Scott Gray wrote:

I'm noticing an increased habit of editing comments on jira rather  
than just
posting a new comment with a clarification.  While it's not that big  
of a
deal, I find when the email comes through from jira it's difficult  
to figure
what has actually changed from when I first read the comment and  
usually I

don't bother.  IMO it's much better if you just post a new comment to
clarify what you were initially trying to say.


+1

-David



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Re: Editing Comments on JIRA

2007-12-17 Thread Scott Gray
Hi Bilgin

It wasn't directly targeted at you, it just reminded me that I had been
meaning to send a post like this to the list.

My point still stands in your case though, I read your initial comment but I
didn't look at the edited one.  For all I know you only changed one word but
the only way to find out is to stare at the email comparing each sentence
until I figure out what has changed.

I think it's better to post a new message saying something like, Sorry I
missed sending the last two sentences, here is the entire message.

Regards
Scott

On 17/12/2007, Bilgin Ibryam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Scott,

 Because you posted this thread some minutes after i edited my post to
 OFBIZ-1528, i have to say that in some cases it is better to edit than
 adding new comment.
 For example while commenting on OFBIZ-1528, i pressed CTRL + R by mistake
 and sent the comment not finished. That's why i decided to edit and complete
 my comment.

 Otherwise i agree with you that reading edited comments is more difficult
 than new ones.

 +1 for not editing comments, when not necessary.

 Bilgin