Re: Lose Weight Program for OFBiz - ofbizwebsite

[Olivier Heintz]

Le 21/03/2012 15:03, Hans Bakker a écrit :

Jacques,

sure  at the time is was up-to-date and this was a proposal how we can 
use ofbiz for the website, however because of the strict apache rules 
it was not used...but can still be a template for any local ofbiz 
website.


It remains weak: being an 'ofbiz' provider but not using it yourself.


imo it's a good cms ofbiz capability demonstration, so +1 for extras :-)

Regards,
Hans

On 03/21/2012 08:55 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Hans,

The problem is that it's completly outdated and nobody is able/want 
to maintain it


Just compare with http://ofbiz.apache.org/ which follows ASF rules 
with for instance a TM on Logo, etc.


Jacques

From: "Hans Bakker" 
 then this could be in contrast with the ASF infrastructure 
offered to the projects. -


??? try: http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ofbiz/

Regards,
Hans

On 03/20/2012 06:48 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

G) specialpurpose/ofbizwebsite: move to "Attic"

Jacques and Olivier proposed to move it to Extras instead just in 
case someone will pick up the work and complete it in the future.
I would like to mention that, if the original goal was "to eat our 
own dog food" and run the OFBiz site on it, then this could be in 
contrast with the ASF infrastructure offered to the projects.


Jacopo

Re: Lose Weight Program for OFBiz - ofbizwebsite

[Pierre Smits]

Hans,

The OFBiz project can hardly be regarded as an OFBiz Provider. Look at the
list of Providers on the site. Then look at the source of their websites
and have a feel for how many (besides your company) use OFBiz as a WCM.

There are several solutions in the field providing for website
functionality. Some of which including a richer set of functionality and
better user experience.

Regards,

Pierre

Op 21 maart 2012 15:03 schreef Hans Bakker
het volgende:

> Jacques,
>
> sure  at the time is was up-to-date and this was a proposal how we can use
> ofbiz for the website, however because of the strict apache rules it was
> not used...but can still be a template for any local ofbiz website.
>
> It remains weak: being an 'ofbiz' provider but not using it yourself.
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
>
> On 03/21/2012 08:55 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> Hans,
>>
>> The problem is that it's completly outdated and nobody is able/want to
>> maintain it
>>
>> Just compare with http://ofbiz.apache.org/ which follows ASF rules with
>> for instance a TM on Logo, etc.
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Hans Bakker" 
>>
>>>  then this could be in contrast with the ASF infrastructure offered
>>> to the projects. -
>>>
>>> ??? try: 
>>> http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.**apache.org/ofbiz/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>> On 03/20/2012 06:48 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>>>
 G) specialpurpose/ofbizwebsite: move to "Attic"
>
>  Jacques and Olivier proposed to move it to Extras instead just in
 case someone will pick up the work and complete it in the future.
 I would like to mention that, if the original goal was "to eat our own
 dog food" and run the OFBiz site on it, then this could be in contrast with
 the ASF infrastructure offered to the projects.

 Jacopo

>>>
>>>
>

Re: Lose Weight Program for OFBiz - ofbizwebsite

[Hans Bakker]

Jacques,

sure  at the time is was up-to-date and this was a proposal how we can 
use ofbiz for the website, however because of the strict apache rules it 
was not used...but can still be a template for any local ofbiz website.


It remains weak: being an 'ofbiz' provider but not using it yourself.

Regards,
Hans

On 03/21/2012 08:55 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Hans,

The problem is that it's completly outdated and nobody is able/want to 
maintain it


Just compare with http://ofbiz.apache.org/ which follows ASF rules 
with for instance a TM on Logo, etc.


Jacques

From: "Hans Bakker" 
 then this could be in contrast with the ASF infrastructure 
offered to the projects. -


??? try: http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ofbiz/

Regards,
Hans

On 03/20/2012 06:48 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

G) specialpurpose/ofbizwebsite: move to "Attic"

Jacques and Olivier proposed to move it to Extras instead just in 
case someone will pick up the work and complete it in the future.
I would like to mention that, if the original goal was "to eat our 
own dog food" and run the OFBiz site on it, then this could be in 
contrast with the ASF infrastructure offered to the projects.


Jacopo

Re: Lose Weight Program for OFBiz - ofbizwebsite

[Jacques Le Roux]

Hans,

The problem is that it's completly outdated and nobody is able/want to maintain 
it

Just compare with http://ofbiz.apache.org/ which follows ASF rules with for 
instance a TM on Logo, etc.

Jacques

From: "Hans Bakker" 

 then this could be in contrast with the ASF infrastructure offered to the 
projects. -

??? try: http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ofbiz/

Regards,
Hans

On 03/20/2012 06:48 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

G) specialpurpose/ofbizwebsite: move to "Attic"

Jacques and Olivier proposed to move it to Extras instead just in case someone will pick up the work and complete it in the 
future.
I would like to mention that, if the original goal was "to eat our own dog food" and run the OFBiz site on it, then this could be 
in contrast with the ASF infrastructure offered to the projects.


Jacopo

Re: Lose Weight Program for OFBiz - ofbizwebsite

[Jacopo Cappellato]

Infra wouldn't be happy if we host the website in that demo instance; websites 
potentially have a lot of visits and that server is not intended for the load; 
this is similar to Confluence based pages: we will no more be allowed to use 
direct links to them from the website.

Jacopo

On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

>  then this could be in contrast with the ASF infrastructure offered to 
> the projects. -
> 
> ??? try: http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ofbiz/
> 
> Regards,
> Hans
> 
> On 03/20/2012 06:48 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>>> G) specialpurpose/ofbizwebsite: move to "Attic"
>>> 
>> Jacques and Olivier proposed to move it to Extras instead just in case 
>> someone will pick up the work and complete it in the future.
>> I would like to mention that, if the original goal was "to eat our own dog 
>> food" and run the OFBiz site on it, then this could be in contrast with the 
>> ASF infrastructure offered to the projects.
>> 
>> Jacopo
> 

Re: Lose Weight Program for OFBiz - ofbizwebsite

[Hans Bakker]

 then this could be in contrast with the ASF infrastructure offered 
to the projects. -


??? try: http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ofbiz/

Regards,
Hans

On 03/20/2012 06:48 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

G) specialpurpose/ofbizwebsite: move to "Attic"


Jacques and Olivier proposed to move it to Extras instead just in case someone 
will pick up the work and complete it in the future.
I would like to mention that, if the original goal was "to eat our own dog 
food" and run the OFBiz site on it, then this could be in contrast with the ASF 
infrastructure offered to the projects.

Jacopo

Re: Lose Weight Program for OFBiz - ofbizwebsite

[Pierre Smits]

+1

Op 20 maart 2012 12:48 schreef Jacopo Cappellato <
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com> het volgende:

>
> > G) specialpurpose/ofbizwebsite: move to "Attic"
> >
>
> Jacques and Olivier proposed to move it to Extras instead just in case
> someone will pick up the work and complete it in the future.
> I would like to mention that, if the original goal was "to eat our own dog
> food" and run the OFBiz site on it, then this could be in contrast with the
> ASF infrastructure offered to the projects.
>
> Jacopo

Re: Lose Weight Program for OFBiz - ofbizwebsite

[Jacques Le Roux]

From: "Scott Gray" 

On 21/03/2012, at 9:24 AM, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote:


Le 20/03/2012 12:48, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :



G) specialpurpose/ofbizwebsite: move to "Attic"



Jacques and Olivier proposed to move it to Extras instead just in case someone 
will pick up the work and complete it in the
future.
I would like to mention that, if the original goal was "to eat our own dog 
food" and run the OFBiz site on it, then this could
be in contrast with the ASF infrastructure offered to the projects.

Jacopo

What is missing on this component ?
I think we should keep it where it is, but like for JCR, write a small roadmap 
on what we need. The website is somehow dependent
from JCR, if we implement it completely.

--
Erwan de FERRIERES
www.nereide.biz


What possible benefit does this component offer to our users?  It's nothing 
more than a ridiculously large example component.  If
we were going to keep this in OFBiz we'd need a new component folder, maybe 
"extremelyspecialpurpose" or perhaps
"notreallyanypurpose".

+1 for moving to extras if there are any volunteers to maintain it otherwise, 
+1 for the attic. (This is essentially my vote for
all the special purpose apps except ecommerce)


This sounds like a wise/experienced suggestion

Jacques


Regards
Scott

Re: Lose Weight Program for OFBiz - ofbizwebsite

[Scott Gray]

On 21/03/2012, at 9:24 AM, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote:

> Le 20/03/2012 12:48, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>> 
>>> G) specialpurpose/ofbizwebsite: move to "Attic"
>>> 
>> 
>> Jacques and Olivier proposed to move it to Extras instead just in case 
>> someone will pick up the work and complete it in the future.
>> I would like to mention that, if the original goal was "to eat our own dog 
>> food" and run the OFBiz site on it, then this could be in contrast with the 
>> ASF infrastructure offered to the projects.
>> 
>> Jacopo
> What is missing on this component ?
> I think we should keep it where it is, but like for JCR, write a small 
> roadmap on what we need. The website is somehow dependent from JCR, if we 
> implement it completely.
> 
> -- 
> Erwan de FERRIERES
> www.nereide.biz

What possible benefit does this component offer to our users?  It's nothing 
more than a ridiculously large example component.  If we were going to keep 
this in OFBiz we'd need a new component folder, maybe "extremelyspecialpurpose" 
or perhaps "notreallyanypurpose".

+1 for moving to extras if there are any volunteers to maintain it otherwise, 
+1 for the attic. (This is essentially my vote for all the special purpose apps 
except ecommerce)

Regards
Scott

Re: Lose Weight Program for OFBiz - ofbizwebsite

[Erwan de FERRIERES]

Le 20/03/2012 12:48, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :



G) specialpurpose/ofbizwebsite: move to "Attic"



Jacques and Olivier proposed to move it to Extras instead just in case someone 
will pick up the work and complete it in the future.
I would like to mention that, if the original goal was "to eat our own dog 
food" and run the OFBiz site on it, then this could be in contrast with the ASF 
infrastructure offered to the projects.

Jacopo

What is missing on this component ?
I think we should keep it where it is, but like for JCR, write a small 
roadmap on what we need. The website is somehow dependent from JCR, if 
we implement it completely.


--
Erwan de FERRIERES
www.nereide.biz

Lose Weight Program for OFBiz - ofbizwebsite

[Jacopo Cappellato]

> G) specialpurpose/ofbizwebsite: move to "Attic"
> 

Jacques and Olivier proposed to move it to Extras instead just in case someone 
will pick up the work and complete it in the future.
I would like to mention that, if the original goal was "to eat our own dog 
food" and run the OFBiz site on it, then this could be in contrast with the ASF 
infrastructure offered to the projects.

Jacopo