Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
Am Donnerstag, 21. März 2013 um 23:30 schrieb Hagar Delest: Nice. I use to dock Stylist and Navigator. When the Sidebar is docked below one of them, if you hide it and then display it (with View menu), it doesn't takes its previous place but almost all space of the panel, reducing the room left for the other panel. currently work is ongoing to integrate the gallery. The navigator and stylist should be also integrated. But there are of course questions how exactly. Some users might prefer to have both visible and docked, how would it be in the sidebar? We have to figure out what is best and what works best. We can probably do not everything for 4.0 but it's good to collect feedback and ideas. The currently floating table toolbar is also a candidate for integration in the sidebar. Volunteers are welcome to help ;-) Long term it would be perfect if users can configure the content of the decks similar to toolbars today. But all this is a lot of work and has to be done. We need much more core basics like a working layout engine etc. We will see how our users will accept the sidebar in general and it is only the beginning. I personally like the sidebar and believe it will be a really huge step forward to increase the usability. Juergen Hagar Le 21/03/2013 21:14, Regina Henschel a écrit : Hi Andre, do you want, that I post the problem I find here in the thread, or write an issue? Kind regards Regina Andre Fischer schrieb: Hello everybody, The two most important improvements since my last update: - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position and Size, Graphics, Page) - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should appear in the finished sidebar. The missing panels are replaced by placeholders for the time being. More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel, context) as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the Wiki page [1]. The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the sidebar. But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a little more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it. But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject. Please go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform. But please not that this is work in progress. Do not use it to work on important documents. If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a short section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you find all the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be visible for each context. Have fun, Andre [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar [2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds [3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
On 21.03.2013 21:14, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Andre, do you want, that I post the problem I find here in the thread, or write an issue? Regina, Hagar, anybody else who finds bugs: yes, please write an issue for everything you find. Please see [1] for some simple things that would help me keep track of them Depending on how many you find I will maintain a list on the wiki [1] about all/the most severe ones. Thanks, Andre [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Known_Bugs Kind regards Regina Andre Fischer schrieb: Hello everybody, The two most important improvements since my last update: - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position and Size, Graphics, Page) - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should appear in the finished sidebar. The missing panels are replaced by placeholders for the time being. More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel, context) as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the Wiki page [1]. The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the sidebar. But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a little more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it. But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject. Please go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform. But please not that this is work in progress. Do not use it to work on important documents. If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a short section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you find all the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be visible for each context. Have fun, Andre [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar [2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds [3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
On 21.03.2013 23:30, Hagar Delest wrote: Nice. I use to dock Stylist and Navigator. When the Sidebar is docked below one of them, if you hide it and then display it (with View menu), it doesn't takes its previous place but almost all space of the panel, reducing the room left for the other panel. Hagar, thanks for the feedback. I can not reproduce this behavior but am probably doing something different then you are. Can you write an issue (see another post of mine in this thread for details) with a step-by-step description of how to reproduce it? Thanks, Andre Hagar Le 21/03/2013 21:14, Regina Henschel a écrit : Hi Andre, do you want, that I post the problem I find here in the thread, or write an issue? Kind regards Regina Andre Fischer schrieb: Hello everybody, The two most important improvements since my last update: - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position and Size, Graphics, Page) - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should appear in the finished sidebar. The missing panels are replaced by placeholders for the time being. More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel, context) as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the Wiki page [1]. The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the sidebar. But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a little more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it. But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject. Please go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform. But please not that this is work in progress. Do not use it to work on important documents. If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a short section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you find all the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be visible for each context. Have fun, Andre [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar [2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds [3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
On 22.03.2013 08:30, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 22/03/2013 07:10, Juergen Schmidt a écrit : currently work is ongoing to integrate the gallery. The navigator and stylist should be also integrated. But there are of course questions how exactly. Some users might prefer to have both visible and docked, how would it be in the sidebar? We have to figure out what is best and what works best. We can probably do not everything for 4.0 but it's good to collect feedback and ideas. The currently floating table toolbar is also a candidate for integration in the sidebar. Volunteers are welcome to help ;-) Long term it would be perfect if users can configure the content of the decks similar to toolbars today. But all this is a lot of work and has to be done. We need much more core basics like a working layout engine etc. We will see how our users will accept the sidebar in general and it is only the beginning. I personally like the sidebar and believe it will be a really huge step forward to increase the usability. What I like about the sidebar: - The button that opens the properties of the main dialog (avoid right click to access character/paragraph properties for example) - Better screen real estate for wide screens (something a bit like The Gimp) - Could be the possibility to remove the default formatting toolbar at the top (to increase space for the document) - The possibility to reduce each section of the Sidebar - Increase/Decrease font buttons will please a lot of users! Not sure the page settings should be included: they are not that often accessed (but well, that section can be reduced) About integration of the Navigator (and Stylist): I use them a lot and the Navigator is THE panel that I would not like to be hidden in any way. All users working with long documents really need it visible just all the time. Even an extra click to switch to it would be cumbersome. There are no concrete plans to disable the standalone versions of navigator and other dialogs that are to be included in the sidebar. Once the sidebar is released, we as a community, will have to decide on how to go on. Also, the feature set of the sidebar is not fixed for all times. One possible improvement could be to make decks and panels able to detach from the sidebar window: plug the navigator inside the sidebar if you want or plug it side-by-side with the sidebar, both visible at the same time. Maybe we (I) should start a new section on the Sidebar wiki page for possible future enhancements? -Andre NB: a drop-down list in the Text/Paragraph sections could be added to select the Character/Paragraph styles. Vertical spacing of the buttons seems rather large but I guess it will be part of the fine tuning. I just noticed that mouse wheel on the Sidebar scrolls the document and not the Sidebar. Just my feedback based on my personal use of Writer. Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Interviews with OpenOffice Extension Authors
Am 21.03.2013 17:28, schrieb Rob Weir: I'd like to do some interviews, via email, with OpenOffice extension authors. These would be featured on the OpenOffice blog, which gets 5000 or so visits per day from OpenOffice users. This is a good way to promote your extension. If you are interested in this, please send me an email, with a link to your extension. I'll try it out and come back to you with questions. Hello Rob, I'm the author of Canzeley, a lawyers program for german lawyers. It beases upon OpenOffice and MySQL. The client is an OpenOffice extension. http://canzeley.org Because it's for german lawyer, all manuals are in german. Part of Canzeley is Forderungsberechnung367.ots, which is a spreadsheed template containing some macro code. http://templates.openoffice.org/de/node/2018 Regards Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[UX] Design Exploration - AOO 4.0 Sidebar Specific Content Panel Design
Hi all, We are working on the AOO 4.0 sidebar design. Based on the option 10 we have published, we are working on the detail panel. During the design work, we according to two principles: 1. Icon style of sidebar in AOO 4.0. From UX point of view, to avoid the usability issues, we need to make sure the same icon for the same function in AOO and all the icons have the same visual style. So we need to use AOO icons in sidebar. For the buttons which did not have AOO icons, we will use Symphony icons. 2. UI controls in A00 4.0. I think we should choose the one has more user-friendly interaction behavior. As you know, Symphony did lots of improvements based on the original Open Office, so I believe the current behavior in Symphony is more reasonable choice for us, like Number Bullet, Line Style...And again, we should pursue the same behavior for the same control in one software, if we choose the Symphony behavior, we should apply it to all areas, such as toolbar, property dialog... At least we need to keep the first level UI elements on controls of sidebar and toolbar consistent for 4.0. Based on the two point above, we create the detail panel design. Please find the UX wiki to see the detail panel design by the link: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Sidebar_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals Welcome to share your thoughts. Thanks. -- Best regards, Xin Li 李欣 UX designer
Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])
Down again 20130322 1145 UTC -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: Down again 20130322 1145 UTC I know it upset some when I said it originally, but this is why I said in the website strategic plan wilki page that one of our biggest risks is: Sustainability concerns due to our use of unsupported applications (from Apache Infra perspective), including phpBB and MWiki and reliance on a very small number of system admins. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Website+Strategic+Plan -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
URGENT: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2013
Looks like a GSoC deadline has suddenly arrived. Sorry I didn't notice this earlier. We need to get idea proposals into JIRA today! Anyone can sign up for JIRA access: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa Assign it to the Community Development project in JIRA. Give then the label gsoc2013 Additional instructions in Ulrich's note ! So if you have a coding idea, and are willing to mentor a student, please enter the idea into JIRA today ! Thanks ! Rob ! ! -- Forwarded message -- From: Ulrich Stärk u...@apache.org Date: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:01 AM Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2013 To: p...@apache.org Dear PMCs, I'm going to submit our application to Google this weekend but our ideas list only shows 34 ideas until now. That's a shame considering that we have over a hundred projects and were able to offer potential students 142 project ideas to choose from last year and it might also hinder our chances of being accepted. Remember, GSoC is a great way to attract fresh blood to your projects and to get work done that might otherwise go undone. It is in your own interest to participate. Incubator mentors, please also talk to your respective podlings. If there is anything keeping you from participating, or anything that needs clarification, don't hesitate to contact the community development project at d...@community.apache.org or, if you want to keep the discussion private, code-awa...@apache.org. Cheers, Uli On 05.03.2013 16:26, Ulrich Stärk wrote: Hello PMCs, Google Summer of Code [1] is the ideal opportunity for you to attract new contributors to your projects. The ASF will apply as a participating organization meaning individual projects don't have to apply separately. If you want to participate with your project you NOW need to - understand what it means to be a mentor [2]. - record your project ideas. Just create issues in JIRA, label them with gsoc2013, and they will show up at [3]. Please be as specific as possible when describing your idea. Include the programming language, the tools and skills required, but try not to scare potential students away. They are supposed to learn what's required before the program starts. Use labels, e.g. for the programming language (java, c, c++, erlang, python, brainfuck, ...) or technology area (cloud, xml, web, foo, bar, ...) and record them at [5]. Please use the COMDEV JIRA project for recording your ideas if your project doesn't use JIRA (e.g. httpd, ooo). Contact d...@community.apache.org if you need assistance. - subscribe to code-awa...@apache.org (restricted to potential mentors, meant to be used as a private list - general discussions on the public d...@community.apache.org list as much as possible please). Use a recognized address when subscribing (@apache.org or one of your alias addresses on record). Note that the ASF isn't accepted yet, nevertheless you *really* should start recording your ideas now. Over the years we were able to complete hundreds of projects successfully. Some of our prior students are active contributors now! Let's make this a success again this year! Uli P.S.: Except for the private parts (label spreadsheet mostly), this email is free to be shared publicly if you want to. [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013 [2] http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html [3] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2013ideas [4] http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html [5] http://s.apache.org/gsoclabels - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le 22/03/2013 08:54, Andre Fischer a écrit : Hagar, thanks for the feedback. I can not reproduce this behavior but am probably doing something different then you are. Can you write an issue (see another post of mine in this thread for details) with a step-by-step description of how to reproduce it? Done: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121933 Not sure it will be easily confirmed since the behavior is not 100% reproducible it seems. NB: no access to the assign field. If you associate your Apache email address with your BZ account you will get additional permissions. -Rob Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: URGENT: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2013
Egad. On 13-03-22, at 08:18 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Looks like a GSoC deadline has suddenly arrived. Sorry I didn't notice this earlier. We need to get idea proposals into JIRA today! ! Anyone can sign up for JIRA access: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa Assign it to the Community Development project in JIRA. Give then the label gsoc2013 Additional instructions in Ulrich's note ! So if you have a coding idea, and are willing to mentor a student, please enter the idea into JIRA today ! Thanks ! Rob ! I know the GSoC stipulations but wonder if a project that would focus less on coding qua coding and more on UX would be of interest and feasible. UX could include, too, universal design (aka accessibility) and elements of community engagement. Louis ! -- Forwarded message -- From: Ulrich Stärk u...@apache.org Date: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:01 AM Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2013 To: p...@apache.org Dear PMCs, I'm going to submit our application to Google this weekend but our ideas list only shows 34 ideas until now. That's a shame considering that we have over a hundred projects and were able to offer potential students 142 project ideas to choose from last year and it might also hinder our chances of being accepted. Remember, GSoC is a great way to attract fresh blood to your projects and to get work done that might otherwise go undone. It is in your own interest to participate. Incubator mentors, please also talk to your respective podlings. If there is anything keeping you from participating, or anything that needs clarification, don't hesitate to contact the community development project at d...@community.apache.org or, if you want to keep the discussion private, code-awa...@apache.org. Cheers, Uli On 05.03.2013 16:26, Ulrich Stärk wrote: Hello PMCs, Google Summer of Code [1] is the ideal opportunity for you to attract new contributors to your projects. The ASF will apply as a participating organization meaning individual projects don't have to apply separately. If you want to participate with your project you NOW need to - understand what it means to be a mentor [2]. - record your project ideas. Just create issues in JIRA, label them with gsoc2013, and they will show up at [3]. Please be as specific as possible when describing your idea. Include the programming language, the tools and skills required, but try not to scare potential students away. They are supposed to learn what's required before the program starts. Use labels, e.g. for the programming language (java, c, c++, erlang, python, brainfuck, ...) or technology area (cloud, xml, web, foo, bar, ...) and record them at [5]. Please use the COMDEV JIRA project for recording your ideas if your project doesn't use JIRA (e.g. httpd, ooo). Contact d...@community.apache.org if you need assistance. - subscribe to code-awa...@apache.org (restricted to potential mentors, meant to be used as a private list - general discussions on the public d...@community.apache.org list as much as possible please). Use a recognized address when subscribing (@apache.org or one of your alias addresses on record). Note that the ASF isn't accepted yet, nevertheless you *really* should start recording your ideas now. Over the years we were able to complete hundreds of projects successfully. Some of our prior students are active contributors now! Let's make this a success again this year! Uli P.S.: Except for the private parts (label spreadsheet mostly), this email is free to be shared publicly if you want to. [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013 [2] http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html [3] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2013ideas [4] http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html [5] http://s.apache.org/gsoclabels - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: URGENT: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2013
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: Egad. On 13-03-22, at 08:18 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Looks like a GSoC deadline has suddenly arrived. Sorry I didn't notice this earlier. We need to get idea proposals into JIRA today! ! Anyone can sign up for JIRA access: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa Assign it to the Community Development project in JIRA. Give then the label gsoc2013 Additional instructions in Ulrich's note ! So if you have a coding idea, and are willing to mentor a student, please enter the idea into JIRA today ! Thanks ! Rob ! I know the GSoC stipulations but wonder if a project that would focus less on coding qua coding and more on UX would be of interest and feasible. UX could include, too, universal design (aka accessibility) and elements of community engagement. Google takes only coding-related ideas for GSoC. I suspect something that is 80% design and 20% coding might be OK, but there needs to be some non-trivial amount of coding involved. -Rob Louis ! -- Forwarded message -- From: Ulrich Stärk u...@apache.org Date: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:01 AM Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2013 To: p...@apache.org Dear PMCs, I'm going to submit our application to Google this weekend but our ideas list only shows 34 ideas until now. That's a shame considering that we have over a hundred projects and were able to offer potential students 142 project ideas to choose from last year and it might also hinder our chances of being accepted. Remember, GSoC is a great way to attract fresh blood to your projects and to get work done that might otherwise go undone. It is in your own interest to participate. Incubator mentors, please also talk to your respective podlings. If there is anything keeping you from participating, or anything that needs clarification, don't hesitate to contact the community development project at d...@community.apache.org or, if you want to keep the discussion private, code-awa...@apache.org. Cheers, Uli On 05.03.2013 16:26, Ulrich Stärk wrote: Hello PMCs, Google Summer of Code [1] is the ideal opportunity for you to attract new contributors to your projects. The ASF will apply as a participating organization meaning individual projects don't have to apply separately. If you want to participate with your project you NOW need to - understand what it means to be a mentor [2]. - record your project ideas. Just create issues in JIRA, label them with gsoc2013, and they will show up at [3]. Please be as specific as possible when describing your idea. Include the programming language, the tools and skills required, but try not to scare potential students away. They are supposed to learn what's required before the program starts. Use labels, e.g. for the programming language (java, c, c++, erlang, python, brainfuck, ...) or technology area (cloud, xml, web, foo, bar, ...) and record them at [5]. Please use the COMDEV JIRA project for recording your ideas if your project doesn't use JIRA (e.g. httpd, ooo). Contact d...@community.apache.org if you need assistance. - subscribe to code-awa...@apache.org (restricted to potential mentors, meant to be used as a private list - general discussions on the public d...@community.apache.org list as much as possible please). Use a recognized address when subscribing (@apache.org or one of your alias addresses on record). Note that the ASF isn't accepted yet, nevertheless you *really* should start recording your ideas now. Over the years we were able to complete hundreds of projects successfully. Some of our prior students are active contributors now! Let's make this a success again this year! Uli P.S.: Except for the private parts (label spreadsheet mostly), this email is free to be shared publicly if you want to. [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013 [2] http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html [3] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2013ideas [4] http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html [5] http://s.apache.org/gsoclabels - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Ask for advice:cloud office interoperability
Dear All: I submitted a I-D ,please give me more help! Thanks! Best Regards! Zhun Guo A new version of I-D, draft-guo-idoca-with-the-html-file-format-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Zhun Guo and posted to the IETF repository. Filename:draft-guo-idoca-with-the-html-file-format Revision:00 Title: The Interconnection and Interoperability of Different Cloud-office Applications (IDCOA) with the HTML File Format Creation date: 2013-03-22 Group: Individual Submission Number of pages: 5 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-guo-idoca-with-the-html-file-format-00.txt Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-guo-idoca-with-the-html-file-format Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-guo-idoca-with-the-html-file-format-00 2012/10/1 zhun guo mike5...@gmail.com Dear All: It is necessary for all cloud office interoperability with each other. Do you think so ? What I want to do,is not to design a product for my own company. I just want to , between all cloud office websites, it can send documents quickly. Such as ,Google Docs can send documents to Microsoft Office 365 quickly, and directly . But now , Google Docs can only send documents using email (SMTP) to Hotmail.So i think HTTP(SPDY) is better than SMTP for transfer online office documents ? So we should suggest ,IBM Docs and Office 365 ,Acobat.com use the same protocol. The second thing I want to do ,all online office interoperability . your know , for native office, an Microsoft Office 2010 document should be open and reedit by an Openoffice.org user , it means native office interoperability.Then for the cloud office, it also need interoperability. So let us do this thing together!As I know ,you all are great man and warmhearted! ?Thanks ! Please see more details in my email attachments! or via a web site: http://online-office-interoperability.blogspot.com/ Best Regards! Zhun Guo Shanghai Biaoma IT Co. www.mabaoo.com mike5guo(at)gmail.com mike5...@gmail.com
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
On 22.03.2013 09:34, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 22/03/2013 08:54, Andre Fischer a écrit : Hagar, thanks for the feedback. I can not reproduce this behavior but am probably doing something different then you are. Can you write an issue (see another post of mine in this thread for details) with a step-by-step description of how to reproduce it? Done: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121933 Not sure it will be easily confirmed since the behavior is not 100% reproducible it seems. NB: no access to the assign field. Done. The assigning to me, not the fix :-) -Andre Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
Hi, the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never) and makes more problems than it helps. I thought that AOO 4.0 would be the best time to start at least with the necessary rework. The main idea is to use a new simplified directory layout and tweak the necessary config file (*rc, *.ini), rpath or similar linker flags where necessary etc. Eliminate the URE completely because we don't really want support it as a standalone product. I did some initial work so far and I am now able to build an office for Windows, MacOS and Linux with a new simplified directory layout. Windows and MacOS have already one main directory whereas on Linux we have openoffice (basis layer + URE) and openoffice4 (brand layer). I removed all this base-link, ure-link, URE, urelib stuff and reorganized the directories. Example layout on Linux: openoffice4 openoffice4/help openoffice4/presets openoffice4/program - contains basis-link/program + URE/bin + URE/lib openoffice4/program/misc - former URE/share/misc - will be removed openoffice4/README openoffice4/README.html openoffice4/readmes openoffice4/share In general the layout becomes more equal on all platforms. The good news is that the office work on all 3 platforms, I am able to select Java, extensions seems to work as well. Python is not yet tested, language packs are not yet tested and built but in general I am thinking it will be no problem. Advantage of this move would be a simplified structure, long term a simplified configuration when the *rc/*.ini files are consolidated. Easier deployment on Linux, no conflicts with an URE from LO or the distro at all. My idea is to continue this basic work, do further cleanup in the office as well as the build system, do further testing including the SDK... Still some work to do but from my point of view a useful move forward to get rid of this complex and unnecessary 3layer stuff. What do you think? On demand I can provide test builds if there are people interested to help with testing. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
Sorry for top posting but: +1 !!! Groetjes, Olaf Am 22.03.2013 17:15, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi, the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never) and makes more problems than it helps. I thought that AOO 4.0 would be the best time to start at least with the necessary rework. The main idea is to use a new simplified directory layout and tweak the necessary config file (*rc, *.ini), rpath or similar linker flags where necessary etc. Eliminate the URE completely because we don't really want support it as a standalone product. I did some initial work so far and I am now able to build an office for Windows, MacOS and Linux with a new simplified directory layout. Windows and MacOS have already one main directory whereas on Linux we have openoffice (basis layer + URE) and openoffice4 (brand layer). I removed all this base-link, ure-link, URE, urelib stuff and reorganized the directories. Example layout on Linux: openoffice4 openoffice4/help openoffice4/presets openoffice4/program - contains basis-link/program + URE/bin + URE/lib openoffice4/program/misc - former URE/share/misc - will be removed openoffice4/README openoffice4/README.html openoffice4/readmes openoffice4/share In general the layout becomes more equal on all platforms. The good news is that the office work on all 3 platforms, I am able to select Java, extensions seems to work as well. Python is not yet tested, language packs are not yet tested and built but in general I am thinking it will be no problem. Advantage of this move would be a simplified structure, long term a simplified configuration when the *rc/*.ini files are consolidated. Easier deployment on Linux, no conflicts with an URE from LO or the distro at all. My idea is to continue this basic work, do further cleanup in the office as well as the build system, do further testing including the SDK... Still some work to do but from my point of view a useful move forward to get rid of this complex and unnecessary 3layer stuff. What do you think? On demand I can provide test builds if there are people interested to help with testing. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never) and makes more problems than it helps. I thought that AOO 4.0 would be the best time to start at least with the necessary rework. The main idea is to use a new simplified directory layout and tweak the necessary config file (*rc, *.ini), rpath or similar linker flags where necessary etc. Eliminate the URE completely because we don't really want support it as a standalone product. I did some initial work so far and I am now able to build an office for Windows, MacOS and Linux with a new simplified directory layout. Windows and MacOS have already one main directory whereas on Linux we have openoffice (basis layer + URE) and openoffice4 (brand layer). I removed all this base-link, ure-link, URE, urelib stuff and reorganized the directories. Example layout on Linux: openoffice4 openoffice4/help openoffice4/presets openoffice4/program - contains basis-link/program + URE/bin + URE/lib openoffice4/program/misc - former URE/share/misc - will be removed openoffice4/README openoffice4/README.html openoffice4/readmes openoffice4/share In general the layout becomes more equal on all platforms. The good news is that the office work on all 3 platforms, I am able to select Java, extensions seems to work as well. Python is not yet tested, language packs are not yet tested and built but in general I am thinking it will be no problem. Advantage of this move would be a simplified structure, long term a simplified configuration when the *rc/*.ini files are consolidated. Easier deployment on Linux, no conflicts with an URE from LO or the distro at all. My idea is to continue this basic work, do further cleanup in the office as well as the build system, do further testing including the SDK... Still some work to do but from my point of view a useful move forward to get rid of this complex and unnecessary 3layer stuff. What do you think? On demand I can provide test builds if there are people interested to help with testing. Juergen I must confess I know next to nothing about the current architectural structure of OpenOffice, so when you originally brought this up, I was lost. My feeling at this point is any move to simplify things will be a big help! So, I look forward to working with this new structure, and seeing what it brings to performance as well as development! Thank you for your insights and work! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- MzK Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin.
Re: A question about existing practices
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: My take away from the thread was that the preference is not to do anything, and in effect continue to ignore the votes. Whether they are reset or ignored is immaterial to me. I'll just work on better and more accurate ways of getting user feedback, that are not dependent on Bugzilla votes. Well, you can do both, sort of...showcase the item with the most votes, perhaps in a blog post, or a regular ML/forum feature, effectively asking: Is anyone still concerned about this issue? Is anyone prepared to take ownership of this issue? Won't work. If you ask a group of people that question and say that the issues already received many votes, then they will replicate that result due to anchoring bias: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring So of course you'll see them say that the issues are still important. We're seeing that bias even today. But the problem is our most frequently-requested features today, namely iOS and Android support, are not even listed in Bugzilla as issues. So my approach will be to not use Bugzilla issues at all. Sorry, I should mention that I have no objections if you want to do something else. But IMHO if you do not reset the votes then it will take another decade for a RFE from today to have the same opportunity for votes as an issue from 2002. So going down that path is a exercise in futility as far as I can tell. Better to start from scratch with a well-designed survey. YES!! ...and make it easy for users to participate! Short, sweet, native languages, etc. That's my preference and choice, but I don't want to force it on anyone else if you have a different approach that makes sense to you. -Rob -Rob If the answer appears to be no to both, wipe out its votes and see if it creeps up again.Then proceed to the new most-voted item. Lather, rinse, repeat. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- MzK Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin.
Re: Do we need a survey mechanism?
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: KG02 - see comments inline On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:11 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: KG01 - see comments inline. On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:10 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/3/17 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com In light of our recent start on Strategic Planning, is it worthwhile to investigate some sort of survey mechanism? KG01 - Graham and I set up a LimeSurvey account, which he hosts. I am the tool admin. I know we've used Google Moderator, and I see there were mixed opinions on that. KG01 - yes, this more a discussion tool We really need to get a better feel of WHAT our end users are doing with AOO I think, before we can get into any indepth product planning. KG01 - yes, this was our goal when we launched the survey effort last year. Actually, the survey process is documented in the AOO UX wiki. We developed the baseline demographic questions which accompany topic specific survey topics. See related thread on using BZ: http://markmail.org/message/5a4j74e4oths55rg Ideally, we should attempt to use some mechanism that doesn't explicitly require an account setup. I started thinking about this a few days ago and saw that there is a MWiki extension called Survey. Maybe we could use this. Coupled with that, is there some way to setup an automatic login for such a page display, but coupled with CAPTCHA for survey submission maybe? +1 for a survey tool. I remember LimeSurvey(1) being discussed on this list several month ago, but I don't remember the output of that discussion. (1) http://www.limesurvey.org/ Right. Google Moderator is more a brainstorming or ideation tool. It is not really a survey tool. Something like LimeSurvey is much better for surveys. We have a few options there: 1) See if we can get it hosted here at Apache, on a VM/BSD jail. KG01 -this approach is more effort, but highly scalable as it supports the periodic succession of hosting and research volunteers. +1 2) Have a volunteer host it on their own survey. If we only do anonymous surveys and don't collect personally identifying information I think this would be low-risk. Kg01 -Currently doing this, just need more resources to deploy surveys and take action. 3) With either of the above options we could assign it a subdomain like surveys.openoffice.org At one point Graham was looking into #2, but that was a while ago. KG01 - Graham and Kevin and Graham. See notes above. Kevin, does limesurvey require some sort of registration by participants? It looks like it does. KG02 -Hh good question. I hope not, lets verify. It would be great if someone COULD verify the needed logon business. OK, more questions and an ultimate goal. I have not kept up with marketing on any of this, so here goes... * Does marketing have results of previous surveys actually published anywhere? I took a brief look at the Marketing area on the web server just now and could't find anything. It would be great if we COULD publish this information someplace, at least for a time -- a year or so. The results might be valuable for planning purposes. * Can we put together a survey to find out more about what users are doing with AOO? We have BZ for bug reporting but I think it would be nice to actually find out what folks are doing with AOO -- who they are, what modules they use, and for what if they care to share that information. My personal interest is with Base. What are people doing with it. * Ideally, we should use some survery/mechanism site that does NOT require a login -- some simple human verification like CAPTCHA is fine. The last thing we want is to inhibit people from participating. According to this page they offer both anonymous and non-anonymous surveys: http://www.limesurvey.org/en/about-limesurvey/features Thoughts? It depends on the purpose of the survey and what you want to do with the results. In general, an open survey, where anyone can respond will not give the best results. It can get a lot of responses. It can be used as a push poll to influence options. But the main problem is that the respondents are self-selected and when that happens you risk that they are not representative of the entire group you are surveying. It might be that those who responded to an advertisement of the poll on Facebook or the mailing list, might younger, or more likely to be a native English speaker, or biased in any number of other ways. Ideally -- and we might not always be able to do the idea -- we start with a list of
Re: linux 32 buildbots offline, does anyone know anything about this
On 3/22/2013 9:19 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: Hi, It seems the linux 32-bit buildbot processes have been offline for about a week. Actually, they've been down for a bit longer than that. We had kind of overwhelmed the available resources, so we were waiting for the new VM host to come online. It is now up, and we are waiting for the linux32 VMs to get spun up on the new host. A. See: http://ci.apache.org/builders Does anyone know anything about this, or should we submit a ticket to infra? Thanks. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: URGENT: Fwd: Google Summer of Code 2013
On 3/22/13 4:51 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Looks like a GSoC deadline has suddenly arrived. Sorry I didn't notice this earlier. We need to get idea proposals into JIRA today! I added my idea: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-76 I added my ideas https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-77 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-78 Juergen -Rob Anyone can sign up for JIRA access: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa Assign it to the Community Development project in JIRA. Give then the label gsoc2013 Additional instructions in Ulrich's note ! So if you have a coding idea, and are willing to mentor a student, please enter the idea into JIRA today ! Thanks ! Rob ! ! -- Forwarded message -- From: Ulrich Stärk u...@apache.org Date: Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:01 AM Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2013 To: p...@apache.org Dear PMCs, I'm going to submit our application to Google this weekend but our ideas list only shows 34 ideas until now. That's a shame considering that we have over a hundred projects and were able to offer potential students 142 project ideas to choose from last year and it might also hinder our chances of being accepted. Remember, GSoC is a great way to attract fresh blood to your projects and to get work done that might otherwise go undone. It is in your own interest to participate. Incubator mentors, please also talk to your respective podlings. If there is anything keeping you from participating, or anything that needs clarification, don't hesitate to contact the community development project at d...@community.apache.org or, if you want to keep the discussion private, code-awa...@apache.org. Cheers, Uli On 05.03.2013 16:26, Ulrich Stärk wrote: Hello PMCs, Google Summer of Code [1] is the ideal opportunity for you to attract new contributors to your projects. The ASF will apply as a participating organization meaning individual projects don't have to apply separately. If you want to participate with your project you NOW need to - understand what it means to be a mentor [2]. - record your project ideas. Just create issues in JIRA, label them with gsoc2013, and they will show up at [3]. Please be as specific as possible when describing your idea. Include the programming language, the tools and skills required, but try not to scare potential students away. They are supposed to learn what's required before the program starts. Use labels, e.g. for the programming language (java, c, c++, erlang, python, brainfuck, ...) or technology area (cloud, xml, web, foo, bar, ...) and record them at [5]. Please use the COMDEV JIRA project for recording your ideas if your project doesn't use JIRA (e.g. httpd, ooo). Contact d...@community.apache.org if you need assistance. - subscribe to code-awa...@apache.org (restricted to potential mentors, meant to be used as a private list - general discussions on the public d...@community.apache.org list as much as possible please). Use a recognized address when subscribing (@apache.org or one of your alias addresses on record). Note that the ASF isn't accepted yet, nevertheless you *really* should start recording your ideas now. Over the years we were able to complete hundreds of projects successfully. Some of our prior students are active contributors now! Let's make this a success again this year! Uli P.S.: Except for the private parts (label spreadsheet mostly), this email is free to be shared publicly if you want to. [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013 [2] http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html [3] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2013ideas [4] http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html [5] http://s.apache.org/gsoclabels - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Starting How the Apache OpenOffice Project Works
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Re: Starting Infrastructure Module
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Steven Vollmer svoll...@yahoo.com wrote: This one looks intimidating; I'll work through it. Hi Steve, Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice project! You mentioned that you were interested in the doc and support areas. So the main services to know about there would be: 1. the mailing lists 2. the MediaWiki 3. the phpBB forums And you don't need to know more than how to use them as a content creator. Shout out if you have any questions! -Rob -SV - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
Great work Jürgen, I am impressed. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])
Le 22/03/2013 13:10, Rob Weir a écrit : I know it upset some when I said it originally, but this is why I said in the website strategic plan wilki page that one of our biggest risks is: Sustainability concerns due to our use of unsupported applications (from Apache Infra perspective), including phpBB and MWiki and reliance on a very small number of system admins. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Website+Strategic+Plan But there is something I don't catch: the forum has been running fine for the 5 previous years. Has any change been made to the system recently? I can't see why it should suddenly stop working like that. Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: linux 32 buildbots offline, does anyone know anything about this
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: On 3/22/2013 9:19 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: Hi, It seems the linux 32-bit buildbot processes have been offline for about a week. Actually, they've been down for a bit longer than that. We had kind of overwhelmed the available resources, so we were waiting for the new VM host to come online. It is now up, and we are waiting for the linux32 VMs to get spun up on the new host. A. thanks for the update! See: http://ci.apache.org/builders Does anyone know anything about this, or should we submit a ticket to infra? Thanks. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- MzK Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin.
Re: Mailing List
Charles -- Do you mean you wanted to subscribe to the mailing list and you couldn't get the verification link to work? Please let us know. Maybe we can do something manually if you can't. On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Charles Smoote csmoote...@gmail.comwrote: I can't activate my account. Charles C. Smoote Pensacola FL -- MzK Achieving happiness requires the right combination of Zen and Zin.
Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le 22/03/2013 13:10, Rob Weir a écrit : I know it upset some when I said it originally, but this is why I said in the website strategic plan wilki page that one of our biggest risks is: Sustainability concerns due to our use of unsupported applications (from Apache Infra perspective), including phpBB and MWiki and reliance on a very small number of system admins. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Website+Strategic+Plan But there is something I don't catch: the forum has been running fine for the 5 previous years. Has any change been made to the system recently? I can't see why it should suddenly stop working like that. Didn't we just run into an attachment size limitation right before this happened? Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
This has win, win, win all over it! Does this allow 4.0 to co-exist with 3.4.1 or LO? Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: Great work Jürgen, I am impressed. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
Hi Jürgen, On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never) and makes more problems than it helps. I thought that AOO 4.0 would be the best time to start at least with the necessary rework. The main idea is to use a new simplified directory layout and tweak the necessary config file (*rc, *.ini), rpath or similar linker flags where necessary etc. Eliminate the URE completely because we don't really want support it as a standalone product. I did some initial work so far and I am now able to build an office for Windows, MacOS and Linux with a new simplified directory layout. Windows and MacOS have already one main directory whereas on Linux we have openoffice (basis layer + URE) and openoffice4 (brand layer). I removed all this base-link, ure-link, URE, urelib stuff and reorganized the directories. Example layout on Linux: openoffice4 openoffice4/help openoffice4/presets openoffice4/program - contains basis-link/program + URE/bin + URE/lib openoffice4/program/misc - former URE/share/misc - will be removed openoffice4/README openoffice4/README.html openoffice4/readmes openoffice4/share In general the layout becomes more equal on all platforms. The good news is that the office work on all 3 platforms, I am able to select Java, extensions seems to work as well. Python is not yet tested, language packs are not yet tested and built but in general I am thinking it will be no problem. Advantage of this move would be a simplified structure, long term a simplified configuration when the *rc/*.ini files are consolidated. Easier deployment on Linux, no conflicts with an URE from LO or the distro at all. My idea is to continue this basic work, do further cleanup in the office as well as the build system, do further testing including the SDK... Still some work to do but from my point of view a useful move forward to get rid of this complex and unnecessary 3layer stuff. What do you think? On demand I can provide test builds if there are people interested to help with testing. is the code available on a branch? If so I can make some time to help check the build on Fedora and do some smoke testing. Or if you can get the code to me in some other way let me know. I have limited time but happy to try these things if that helps. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Cheers, Ian C - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
