Re: Localized build breakers

2013-06-17 Thread Andre Fischer

On 15.06.2013 09:29, janI wrote:

On Jun 14, 2013 11:45 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org
wrote:

Hi Jan,

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 02:40:23PM +0200, janI wrote:

The change comes from me, after  a discussion on the dev list and was
applied as agreed.

IIRC you asked about x-comment, not about x-no-translate (this one is
the root of the build breaker).

not thst it shall be a long discussion,:-)  but I did ask for quite a
number of changes, like removing non en-us entries, cleaning duplicate
en-us text entries and a couple of x- problems.


BUT never the less, since it is a build breaker, it needs to be

reverted.

There is no need to the revert the whole commit, only two files, see
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122518 and the attachments
there.

only reverting 2 files is a lot easier, thx for the advice.


Looks like Ariel has already done the proposed review. Good news that 
only two files have to be reverted.





Keeping comments and splitting long lines may be an enhancement (see
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122518#c9 ) but there is
no need to revert that.

And the error with CaptionOrderNumberingFirst
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122518#c10 comes from the
original commit that forgot to mark this as x-no-translate (this flags
the string as not-extractable by localize so that it does not appear in
the sdf file, nor is merged back)
http://hg.services.openoffice.org/OOO340/rev/ca60b76cc688


Ps. the commit is old, so at least it underlines my request from earlier
that we regulary build languages in buildbot.

I do build with --with-lang=en-US es and the bug didn't show up
until the translation was integrated (rev. 1489712 from June 5th).
Building languages in the buildbot is a nonsense if there is no
periodical integration of localization.

I agree with you, but I have the opinion that localization should be
integrated just as frequently as source changes. My target with l10n is
still that pootle changes moves automatically to svn (maybe with a delay of
a day).

If we dont build with-lang regulary we dont see if e.g. rejuvenate01
changes breaks in a language build, so its not only the translated text
that makes a difference.


I have understood Ariel's comment so, that he wants to add periodical 
integration of localization data, not to remove --with-lang builds.  If 
my assumption is correct, then the two of you want the same thing.  And 
I agree with that.


-Andre



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Re: [AOO 4.0]: migration of AOO 3.4.x/OOo 3.x user profile data - help needed

2013-06-17 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 13.06.2013 23:44, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 05/06/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:

There has been a lot of posts in that discussion, even some proposals
but we are approaching the 4.0 release and I've not seen a single
warning for the extensions authors about the changes needed or any
proposal to warn users.


I've started a wiki page at

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0


It's still incomplete, and I hope that developers with knowledge may
step in and fill in the gaps.

It is meant to be a resource that we will want to advertise in the
release notes and make available to users when they seek support, so
please have a look, and feel free to improve and complete it.



I want to let you know that I am currently working on the migration of 
AOO 3.4.x/OOo 3.x user profiles to AOO 4.0. I am also including the 
migration of extensions.


I am currently not planning to adjust any of the mentioned strings as I 
think it is too late for its translation.


If my tests work fine, I will check-in the changes this week. If we will 
include these changes into our AOO 4.0 release, I will help to update 
the above wiki page.



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Re: Localized build breakers

2013-06-17 Thread Andre Fischer

On 17.06.2013 15:06, janI wrote:

On 17 June 2013 09:15, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote:


On 15.06.2013 09:29, janI wrote:


On Jun 14, 2013 11:45 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org
wrote:


Hi Jan,

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 02:40:23PM +0200, janI wrote:


The change comes from me, after  a discussion on the dev list and was
applied as agreed.


IIRC you asked about x-comment, not about x-no-translate (this one is
the root of the build breaker).


not thst it shall be a long discussion,:-)  but I did ask for quite a
number of changes, like removing non en-us entries, cleaning duplicate
en-us text entries and a couple of x- problems.

  BUT never the less, since it is a build breaker, it needs to be

reverted.
There is no need to the revert the whole commit, only two files, see
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122518https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122518and
 the attachments
there.


only reverting 2 files is a lot easier, thx for the advice.


Looks like Ariel has already done the proposed review. Good news that only
two files have to be reverted.


I have reverted one, and Ariel seems to make some experiments with the
other.


Great.  Thanks to the two of you.








  Keeping comments and splitting long lines may be an enhancement (see

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122518#c9https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122518#c9)
 but there is
no need to revert that.

And the error with CaptionOrderNumberingFirst
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122518#c10https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122518#c10comes
 from the
original commit that forgot to mark this as x-no-translate (this flags
the string as not-extractable by localize so that it does not appear in
the sdf file, nor is merged back)
http://hg.services.openoffice.**org/OOO340/rev/ca60b76cc688http://hg.services.openoffice.org/OOO340/rev/ca60b76cc688

  Ps. the commit is old, so at least it underlines my request from earlier

that we regulary build languages in buildbot.


I do build with --with-lang=en-US es and the bug didn't show up
until the translation was integrated (rev. 1489712 from June 5th).
Building languages in the buildbot is a nonsense if there is no
periodical integration of localization.


I agree with you, but I have the opinion that localization should be
integrated just as frequently as source changes. My target with l10n is
still that pootle changes moves automatically to svn (maybe with a delay
of
a day).

If we dont build with-lang regulary we dont see if e.g. rejuvenate01
changes breaks in a language build, so its not only the translated text
that makes a difference.


I have understood Ariel's comment so, that he wants to add periodical
integration of localization data, not to remove --with-lang builds.  If my
assumption is correct, then the two of you want the same thing.  And I
agree with that.

yeah the difference is in some small details, which can be easily ironed

out, no real problems.

Just for me to sure, am I off the hook or am a still a show stopper for 4.0
(which I DO NOT want to be) ?


You where never on the hook.  If there is a showstopper then somebody 
will fix it.  I have added my share of showstoppers. Sometimes I find 
and fix them.  Often somebody else does.  Ariel tends to find a lot of 
mine :-)


I did not started this thread because this was a special case or overly 
severe.  There where just so many files modified that I seemed to be 
safest to revert it and do a review without any pressure.  I thought it 
would be rude to just revert it, without informing the author first.




In case something is missing, please just go ahead and do it, I will
apriciate it and not be offended.


Can I have this statement on record from anybody else here, too :-)

Regards,
Andre



rgds
jan I.



-Andre




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Re: Draft blog post: With Apache OpenOffice you get what you don't pay for

2013-06-17 Thread Donald Whytock
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:


 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=with_apache_openoffice_you_get


Supplies are limited...technically true, if you're trying to avoid
traffic overload on the link...

Don


dificulty in OO base

2013-06-17 Thread FARMACAM GMAIL
Hi there,

 

I´m from Brazil, and I need some help from you.

Sorry for my bad English.

 

Well, I am changing the entire database from access to open office base.

The tables and forms were all done easily, but I´m having difficulty
changing the user interface.

At the MS Access I just configured the start form at properties. Here in OO
Base I used a macro…. SOLVED

At the MS Access I copied from the internet a macro to block everything,
except the form I want to be loaded at startup. Using this way,

The users can insert data by the form, but can not acess the entire content.

 

Can you help me setting it up?

The help can be a tutorial, a script, a macro, or else.

I junt want to make private and safe the content of the forms.

 

 

Thank you very much!!

EDSON SOUZA BASTOS

FARMACAM



XRowUpdate interface in service ResultSet

2013-06-17 Thread Rajath Shashidhara
Hello,

I have a few questions here:

XRowUpdate has a few methods like updateType(int columnindex, type
variable).

This is similar to setPropertyValues command. Should these command be
linked to the execute() - setPropertyValues command?
Or should this even be implemented?

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M.Sc(Hons.) Physics,
Birla Institute of Technology and Science - Pilani,
Pilani


Re: Draft blog post: With Apache OpenOffice you get what you don't pay for

2013-06-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:


 https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=with_apache_openoffice_you_get


 Supplies are limited...technically true, if you're trying to avoid
 traffic overload on the link...


But in this case, the site that was reported to use merely directed
users to our own www.openoffice.org website after payment.  So it
wasn't even their bandwidth.

-Rob


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Re: Draft blog post: With Apache OpenOffice you get what you don't pay for

2013-06-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:06:30 -0400
 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote:
  On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
 
  https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=with_apache_openoffice_you_get
 
 
  Supplies are limited...technically true, if you're trying to avoid
  traffic overload on the link...
 

 But in this case, the site that was reported to use merely directed
 users to our own www.openoffice.org website after payment.  So it
 wasn't even their bandwidth.

 The Patent Medicine Man at a fairground always announces that there are very 
 few left.
 Hurry, hurry, hurry! get yours now - nearly sold out!


It is one of the key psychological insights that advertisers use.
There was a time when TV advertisements would end with Our operators
are standing by to take your order.  But testing showed that it was
much better to say something like, If our operators are busy please
call again.  The perception of scarcity motivates people to action.

Of course, the master of this was P.T. Barnum who in his museum of
oddities managed crowds by having a prominent sign in the museum that
said, This Way to See the Great Egress.  And he was the one who
coined the phrase, There's a sucker born every minute, something
that required the internet to fully demonstrate.

In any case I think raising awareness of OpenOffice as a free
application can help reduce incidents like this.  And if someone is
taken in by a scam that involves OpenOffice then this reflects poorly
on us, even though we are not directly involved.

-Rob


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Re: XRowUpdate interface in service ResultSet

2013-06-17 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Rajath,

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:28:56PM +0530, Rajath Shashidhara wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have a few questions here:
 
 XRowUpdate has a few methods like updateType(int columnindex, type
 variable).
 
 This is similar to setPropertyValues command. Should these command be
 linked to the execute() - setPropertyValues command?
 Or should this even be implemented?

Although the API documentation says that css.ucb.ContentResultSet
includes the service css.sdbc.ResultSet, which exportes the
css.sdbc.XRowUpdate interface, you do not have to implement this
interface; look at this as a documentation bug. You just have to
implement the interfaces listed under Exported Interfaces in
http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/ucb/ContentResultSet.html

see ucbhelper::ResultSet
ucbhelper/inc/ucbhelper/resultset.hxx

class UCBHELPER_DLLPUBLIC ResultSet :
public cppu::OWeakObject,
public com::sun::star::lang::XTypeProvider,
public com::sun::star::lang::XServiceInfo,
public com::sun::star::lang::XComponent,
public com::sun::star::ucb::XContentAccess,
public com::sun::star::sdbc::XResultSet,
public com::sun::star::sdbc::XResultSetMetaDataSupplier,
public com::sun::star::sdbc::XRow,
public com::sun::star::sdbc::XCloseable,
public com::sun::star::beans::XPropertySet


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Re: Graphical glitches on Draw 4.0

2013-06-17 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Am Freitag, 14. Juni 2013 um 15:43 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
 On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:24:43 +0200
 Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote:
  
  Hi Ricardo,
   
  as I already wrote in #122456# I am very surprised how something like  
  that can happen. I would be happy to be able to reproduce this. Could  
  you give a step-by-step description and infos about machine/system  
  running on? Maybe put it directly in the task and write that you canks  
  in advance!
   
  Sincerely,
  Armin
   
  On 14.06.2013 15:08, RGB ES wrote:
   Just draw a thick line and see if you can reproduce this

   http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Draw-341vs400.png

   On the left, 3.4.1, on the right, 4.0. As you can see, handlers are
   misplaced on 4.0. There is also a lot of noise when you move an object
   around con 4.0

   http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Draw-400noise.png

   This problem is absent on 3.4.1.

   I'm testing the 64 bits Linux build. From the Help → About

   AOO400m2(Build:9701) - Rev. 1491860
   2013-06-11 15:16:25 (Tue, 11 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64

   Refreshing the screen with Ctrl-Shift-R fix the second problem, but not 
   the
   first one. I cannot find any related issue in bugzilla.

   One user on ES forums reported that boxes like font name/size are not
   repainting for him, but I cannot reproduce that.

   Regards
   Ricardo

   
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 I have just tested this and I'm getting the same effect using AOO 4.0.2 (buld 
 1489073) on Xubuntu 12.10.  
please don't use such a version number 4.0.2, we don't have released a 4.0.0 
yet and it can be very confusing for external readers.
  
Juergen
 Also, with a wide line (24pt) the corners of the line away from the green 
 handles are clipped (bevelled) perhaps by the bounding box of the selection. 
 Also, draw a rectangle or square using the thick line. The four lines are 
 offset from the desired position: that is the wide line is being drawn to one 
 side of the target position, instead of being centred on it, and the top and 
 left lines are the correct width, but the bottom and right lines are narrower.
  
 Using the sidepanel, I am only able to alter the line width using the spin 
 buttons (up/down arrows beside the width selector. I cannot highlight ad 
 enter a value direct into the line width selector.
  
  
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Re: Graphical glitches on Draw 4.0

2013-06-17 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:10:03 +0200
Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am Freitag, 14. Juni 2013 um 15:43 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
  On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:24:43 +0200
  Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote:
   
   Hi Ricardo,

   as I already wrote in #122456# I am very surprised how something like  
   that can happen. I would be happy to be able to reproduce this. Could  
   you give a step-by-step description and infos about machine/system  
   running on? Maybe put it directly in the task and write that you canks  
   in advance!

   Sincerely,
   Armin

   On 14.06.2013 15:08, RGB ES wrote:
Just draw a thick line and see if you can reproduce this
 
http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Draw-341vs400.png
 
On the left, 3.4.1, on the right, 4.0. As you can see, handlers are
misplaced on 4.0. There is also a lot of noise when you move an object
around con 4.0
 
http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Draw-400noise.png
 
This problem is absent on 3.4.1.
 
I'm testing the 64 bits Linux build. From the Help → About
 
AOO400m2(Build:9701) - Rev. 1491860
2013-06-11 15:16:25 (Tue, 11 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64
 
Refreshing the screen with Ctrl-Shift-R fix the second problem, but not 
the
first one. I cannot find any related issue in bugzilla.
 
One user on ES forums reported that boxes like font name/size are not
repainting for him, but I cannot reproduce that.
 
Regards
Ricardo
 

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  I have just tested this and I'm getting the same effect using AOO 4.0.2 
  (buld 1489073) on Xubuntu 12.10.  
 please don't use such a version number 4.0.2, we don't have released a 4.0.0 
 yet and it can be very confusing for external readers.

I may have been mistaken; I remembered that as the version number and didn't 
check.  Installing AOO 4 on another machine it said it was 4.0.0-2 during the 
install and perhaps that is what I misremembered.  In any case the build number 
is the significant item. 

   
 Juergen
  Also, with a wide line (24pt) the corners of the line away from the green 
  handles are clipped (bevelled) perhaps by the bounding box of the 
  selection. Also, draw a rectangle or square using the thick line. The four 
  lines are offset from the desired position: that is the wide line is being 
  drawn to one side of the target position, instead of being centred on it, 
  and the top and left lines are the correct width, but the bottom and right 
  lines are narrower.
   
  Using the sidepanel, I am only able to alter the line width using the spin 
  buttons (up/down arrows beside the width selector. I cannot highlight ad 
  enter a value direct into the line width selector.
   
   
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Re: Download stats per platform?

2013-06-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 In the first 1 million or so AOO downloads, the breakdown was 87%
 Windows, 11% Macintosh and 2% Linux.

 But, of course, there's been over 50 million. Do we have a
 per-platform breakdown of the numbers since then for AOO?



It sounds like you want this chart:

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/mediaresource/690f6d03-d666-4003-b1b2-8e44331e2511

From this blog post:

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_one_year_50

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Re: Download stats per platform?

2013-06-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 June 2013 21:45, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the first 1 million or so AOO downloads, the breakdown was 87%
 Windows, 11% Macintosh and 2% Linux.
 But, of course, there's been over 50 million. Do we have a
 per-platform breakdown of the numbers since then for AOO?

 It sounds like you want this chart:
 https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/mediaresource/690f6d03-d666-4003-b1b2-8e44331e2511
 From this blog post:
 https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_one_year_50


That's the one, thank you! Do you have the % numbers that went into the graph?


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Re: Download stats per platform?

2013-06-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 17 June 2013 21:45, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the first 1 million or so AOO downloads, the breakdown was 87%
 Windows, 11% Macintosh and 2% Linux.
 But, of course, there's been over 50 million. Do we have a
 per-platform breakdown of the numbers since then for AOO?

 It sounds like you want this chart:
 https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/mediaresource/690f6d03-d666-4003-b1b2-8e44331e2511
 From this blog post:
 https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_one_year_50


 That's the one, thank you! Do you have the % numbers that went into the graph?


That chart shows it day-by-day.  The %'s vary over time.  But the
average over the year is:

Windows:  88%
Mac OS: 10%
Linux: 2%

So little difference compared to the distribution reported initially.
It still reflects the distribution of desktop OS usage in the market.

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Re: [DISCUSS] a new web area for Apache OpenOffice third party products

2013-06-17 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
  On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  .
  .
  .
 

 Levels in which we might do things:

 Level 1 -- Do nothing but watch for abuses.  If someone
 wants to
   sell
 a CD, then they are free to do it, per the license.  They can
 advertise on eBay, their website, etc., but they have no
  permission
   to
 use the trademarks.  Nothing special on our website.

   
   

 Level 2 -- We allow a listing on our website (or wiki) of
 those
  who
 offer CDs.  But we make no attempt to verify anything.  It is
  all
 caveat emptor.  We put in disclaimers on the page so users
  know
   that
 we have not vetted anything.

 Level 3 -- We review requests for listing and approve them
 only
  if
 they meet our qualifications, which might include proper use
 of
 trademarks, a link back to our website, etc. This is similar
 to
  what
 we did with consultants.

 Level 4 -- Like Level 3, but for those distributors who meet
 our
 qualifications we offer a special logo they can use,
 something
  like
   a
 Community Distributor.

  .
  .
  .
 
  
  
   It seems there is at least some consensus of moving ahead with a CD
  vendor
   page similar to  the consultants page:
  
   http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html
  
   so, Rob, if you feel inclined to work on #1 and #2 from your
 suggestions
   above, please feel free to draft up something for us to review. Then
  move
   on to #3?
  
 
  We might be able to jump directly to #3.  We don't need to do #1 or #2
  first.
 
  I've started to draft the Distributor Best Practices page here:
 
  http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/best-practices.html
 
 
  ok, this looks pretty good...
 
 
 
  I think in the end we need three pages:
 
  1) The main page, which is the listings page.
 
  2) The Distributor Best Practices page
 
  3) An instructions page for would-be distributors, of how to get
  listed.  It might grow over time to include links to ISO's, CD labels,
  etc., in the future.
 
  These pages would be cross-linked.
 
 
   So, we don't have to  un-reroute what we've already done with the old
   distribution area, I'm inclined to put this new CD page(s) in bizdev
  also.
  
   I'm hoping we can just implement this with xml and xslt. I'll do some
   testing in a day or so.
  
 
  That could be done now or later on.  It is OK to start with a static
  HTML page (not MDText) and prototype the design and even go live with
  it, and then add the XSLT automation to generate it later.  Depending
  on the number of listings automation might not be needed.
 
  Do you want to mock up a distributor listings page?
 
 
  Yes, I can do this over the next day or so I think. I just do up a
 static
  HTML as you suggest. Maybe like the old listing but without the region
 info
  -- to start.
 
 
  I started looking at some XML, and XSL just now, and well, not sure how
  this could be  handled with the CMS vis a vis standard page headers etc.
  We could probaly define a new page type.
 
  For now, static HTML it is.
 
 
  OK, start here (revision of /distribution/index.html)
 
   http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/index_new.html
 

 This is a good start.

 I wonder if the main page (index.html) should the end-user facing
 page, e.g., the distributor listings?   And then have the FAQ be in
 distributor-faqs.html or something like that?


This might be a good idea. The main facing page IS a bit preachy I guess.
The legacy Distribution project's main index page was more like a
combination of the FAQ and best practices with links to  CDs, etc. But if
we're only going to be dealing with CDs, no reason to keep that
organization, and it would probably be more friendly for users. (I have an
archive of the old /distribution/index.html).




 Not a big deal, just
 an idea.  Do we know what existing incoming links from 3rd party
 websites point to?


I can't answer this one.



 (or even OO websites?)


Because distribution used to be a separate project, there are many links
to distribution.openoffice.org and a fair number JUST the cdrom area.







Whatever URL was used for
 the distributor list before should probably stay as the listing page.
 That way the existing links will still be accurate.

 http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/distributors.html


Since there were more than just CD vendors before, I think the page you
would want to keep the same would be:

/distribution/cdrom/sellers.html  --and/or--  /distribution/cdrom/index.html

The two pages above are in my old archive and are practically identical.

I used this as kind of a template for:


Re: dificulty in OO base

2013-06-17 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:24 AM, FARMACAM GMAIL farmaca...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi there,



 I´m from Brazil, and I need some help from you.

 Sorry for my bad English.



 Well, I am changing the entire database from access to open office base.

 The tables and forms were all done easily, but I´m having difficulty
 changing the user interface.

 At the MS Access I just configured the start form at properties. Here in OO
 Base I used a macro…. SOLVED

 At the MS Access I copied from the internet a macro to block everything,
 except the form I want to be loaded at startup. Using this way,

 The users can insert data by the form, but can not acess the entire
 content.



 Can you help me setting it up?

 The help can be a tutorial, a script, a macro, or else.

 I junt want to make private and safe the content of the forms.





 Thank you very much!!

 EDSON SOUZA BASTOS

 FARMACAM


Hello Edson --

This list is not generally for end user support.

You might try posting this message to the OpenOffice forums:

http://forum.openoffice.org/

for additional assistance.

Thank you for your interest in Apache OpenOffice.



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Re: dificulty in OO base

2013-06-17 Thread Alexandro Colorado
There is also us...@openoffice.apache.org
http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html#general

On 6/17/13, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:24 AM, FARMACAM GMAIL
 farmaca...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi there,



 I´m from Brazil, and I need some help from you.

 Sorry for my bad English.



 Well, I am changing the entire database from access to open office base.

 The tables and forms were all done easily, but I´m having difficulty
 changing the user interface.

 At the MS Access I just configured the start form at properties. Here in
 OO
 Base I used a macro…. SOLVED

 At the MS Access I copied from the internet a macro to block everything,
 except the form I want to be loaded at startup. Using this way,

 The users can insert data by the form, but can not acess the entire
 content.



 Can you help me setting it up?

 The help can be a tutorial, a script, a macro, or else.

 I junt want to make private and safe the content of the forms.





 Thank you very much!!

 EDSON SOUZA BASTOS

 FARMACAM


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Re: dificulty in OO base

2013-06-17 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

Edson,

There is some documentation that may be of help to you:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/f/fc/BH35-BaseHandbook.odt
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/7/76/BH35-BaseHandbook.pdf

http://www.pitonyak.org/database/


On 06/17/2013 07:51 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:24 AM, FARMACAM GMAIL farmaca...@gmail.comwrote:


Hi there,



I´m from Brazil, and I need some help from you.

Sorry for my bad English.



Well, I am changing the entire database from access to open office base.

The tables and forms were all done easily, but I´m having difficulty
changing the user interface.

At the MS Access I just configured the start form at properties. Here in OO
Base I used a macro…. SOLVED

At the MS Access I copied from the internet a macro to block everything,
except the form I want to be loaded at startup. Using this way,

The users can insert data by the form, but can not acess the entire
content.



Can you help me setting it up?

The help can be a tutorial, a script, a macro, or else.

I junt want to make private and safe the content of the forms.





Thank you very much!!

EDSON SOUZA BASTOS

FARMACAM



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This list is not generally for end user support.

You might try posting this message to the OpenOffice forums:

http://forum.openoffice.org/

for additional assistance.

Thank you for your interest in Apache OpenOffice.





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Re: Download stats per platform?

2013-06-17 Thread Shenfeng Liu
We can get the data from SourceForge by define the date range by ourselves:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/map
:)

- Shenfeng (Simon)


2013/6/18 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 17 June 2013 21:45, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
  On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  In the first 1 million or so AOO downloads, the breakdown was 87%
  Windows, 11% Macintosh and 2% Linux.
  But, of course, there's been over 50 million. Do we have a
  per-platform breakdown of the numbers since then for AOO?
 
  It sounds like you want this chart:
 
 https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/mediaresource/690f6d03-d666-4003-b1b2-8e44331e2511
  From this blog post:
  https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_one_year_50
 
 
  That's the one, thank you! Do you have the % numbers that went into the
 graph?
 

 That chart shows it day-by-day.  The %'s vary over time.  But the
 average over the year is:

 Windows:  88%
 Mac OS: 10%
 Linux: 2%

 So little difference compared to the distribution reported initially.
 It still reflects the distribution of desktop OS usage in the market.

 -Rob

 
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Re: [QA][Test Report] Weekly Status Update as of 20130614

2013-06-17 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Yu Zhen,
  Thanks for the report! We made big progress, thanks for every volunteers
contribution!

  One more think I suggest we to focus in the next week is the testing on
Base and Drawing.
  The problem is that we don't have any existing test cases for Base and
Drawing for now. So besides creating test cases from scratch, I think we
can also try another way to do quick testing for these 2 applications:
people do exploration test, and report in QA mail group on (1) covered
platform/database; (2) tested scenario/steps; (3) test result/defect found.
So that we can identify any ship blocker defects in Base and Drawing
quickly.


- Shenfeng (Simon)




2013/6/17 Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com

 Hi All,

 We wrap up the AOO 4.0 Full Regression test this week, here is the weekly
 update (6/10 - 6/14):

 *Test execution:*
 1. Testing of upgrading/updating a former AOO/OOo's version - Done and
 Passed
 2.  Acceptance testing on stlport change on Win7/Mac/RHEL/Ubuntu platforms
 - Done and accepted, with none of the opening defects found from this
 testing, is introduced by stlport. However, it needs development's
 confirmation.
 *
 Defect summary:*
 1. 4.0.0 release blocker candidate defects are under reviewing, the total
 number is 66 now (original is 90)
 2. Redhat specific defect with 64-bit Java, Bug 122485 ([Crash]OOO crash
 when apply animation for table/chart object) gets resolved, will set QE to
 verify
 *
 Issues  quality highlight:*
 1. Need to cover silent installation testing on Windows as it is not
 included in previous testing
 2. The triage of bugs for AOO 4.0.0 release blockers is ongoing.
 3. QAs are reminded to retest the failed/blocked test executions as the
 defects get fixed

 *Volunteer status: *
 1. No new volunteers(total 20 so far) on test execution work
 2. No new volunteers(total 6 so far) on defect work, the progress on
 confirming defects are low, need more to clean backlog of unconfirmed and
 resolved defects

 *Plan for next week:*
 1. Locate AOO MSI file for slient installation testing on Windows
 2. Work out test plan for AOO 4.0 Final Regression test and populate test
 cases in Testlink as fixing defects
 3. Work with development to prioritize critical defects as 4.0.0 release
 blockers and assign them to Dev volunteers
 4. Retest the failed/blocked test executions as the defects get fixed

 Thanks you all for effort on full regression testing, let's work together
 to move to final regression testing!

 Regards,
 Yu Zhen