Re: 4.1. Regressions

[Kay Schenk]

On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Rainer Bielefeld <
rainerbielefeld_ooo...@bielefeldundbuss.de> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> last weekend I wanted to check whether I can try to use 4.1 for my daily
> work with acceptable risk. Using such a trunk version for normal work is a
> much more  manifold and reliable test than testing with prepared testcases
> (what, of course, have to be done, too!).
>
> I am used to do a query for regressions in trunk, what will allow to check
> whether there are known 4.1 regressions affecting my daily work. And
> fascinating, my query showed 1 Regression in 200 Bugs with Version 4.1 (I
> forgot what one it was). That sounds good, but it is completely implausible
> that our 200 unfixed 4.1.0-dev DEFECT bugs all are about new features. And
> that tells that information in Bugzilla database is totally unreliable, not
> useful for such decisions.
>
> I already started a review of Bugs in query [1]. Very often Version has
> been changed erroneous from an older version to 4.1, sometimes additionally
> I see reports with Status "Confirmed" what are no bugs at all (Bug 106106,
> Bug 97818), or at least are very unclear (Bug 96263.
>

Given what you say in this above paragraph, do you have any suggestions on
how to "accurately" determine regression status? We may have to construct a
custom search using date, etc.


> May be some volunteers can assist?
>
> Best regards
>
> Rainer
>
>
>
>
> Hyperlinks:
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Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta (RC)

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 06/03/2014 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
(RC) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta. The Beta release is intended to
reach more early adopters and to receive more valuable feedback to
improve potentially critical areas for the final release. ...
[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...


+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Fwd: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Kathelijne Rickert]

Ok, big thanks to you both!



2014-03-09 19:23 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo) :

> Am 03/09/2014 07:10 PM, schrieb Max Merbald:
>
>  Hello Kathelijne,
>>
>> I didn't get to this one - it's definitely meant to cheat people into
>> downloading Genieo. Maybe it's special to Mac users since Genieo is a
>> software targeted at Mac. It's not, though, very fair of Sourceforge to
>> do this. To get rid of it check your list of installed programs chose
>> Genieo and then uninstall.
>>
>> As to the other problem, someone using Mac should have to answer.
>>
>
> I'm sorry, I've also no Mac to check this.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>
>   Original-Nachricht 
>> Betreff: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
>> Datum: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 18:51:44 +0100
>> Von: Kathelijne Rickert 
>> An: Max Merbald 
>> Kopie (CC): Marcus (OOo) ,
>> dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>> This is it: (see below attachment 1))
>>
>> It looks like you have to click on it, but it is only made to look like
>> OpenOffice to mislead people.
>>
>> I managed to download the latest OpenOffice version, but my problem is
>> still the same (see previous email). What can I do so this screen does
>> no longer pop up? (see below attachment 2)
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-09 18:41 GMT+01:00 Max Merbald > >:
>>
>> Hi Kathelijne,
>>
>> I'm not entirely sure which button you mean. Probably it's like
>> this: If you click on "OpenOffice..." at the top of the page you are
>> forwarded to this page:
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/. If you click
>> on "Download" on this page you would be downloading version 4.0.0,
>> the size of the file is given as 137 MBytes. I decided not to follow
>> this path any further but maybe it's a lead to people getting
>> malware along with OpenOffice. I'd say you've been quite helpful -
>> thank you for this!
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> Am 09.03.2014 18:24, schrieb Kathelijne Rickert:
>>
>>> I think I have found the reason why I downloaded Genio (and after
>>> checking the www, I'm not the only one).
>>>
>>> When you get to this page
>>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>> files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_
>>> x86_install_nl.dmg/download),
>>>
>>> the downloading does not start immediately and (when you're not
>>> careful :-) ) you click on the download button which looks just
>>> like the OpenOffice download button (same color, same lay out).
>>> But that download button is an add. I think I am not the only one
>>> who made this mistake...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-09 18:19 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo) >> >:
>>>
>>> Am 03/09/2014 05:49 PM, schrieb Kathelijne Rickert:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to download the new Open Office version, but it
>>> is not working.
>>>
>>> 1. I go to: https://www.openoffice.org/nl/
>>>
>>> 2. I click on the second link: Ik wil OpenOffice
>>> downloade
>>>
>>> n
>>>
>>> 3. I am redirected to this page:
>>> https://www.openoffice.org/nl/download/
>>>
>>> 4. I click on the first link: Download Apache OpenOffice
>>> 4.0.1>> files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_
>>> x86_install_nl.dmg/download>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5. I am redirected to this page:
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>> files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_
>>> x86_install_nl.dmg/download
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Until here I don't see anyting uncommon. All fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> 6. When I try to open the download I get the following
>>> message: "Het
>>> programma kan niet geopened worden"
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you completed the download?
>>> Have you verified that the downloaded file was not saved broken?
>>> You can check this on this webpage:
>>>
>>> https://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html
>>>
>>> Before I had other trouble: when I tried to download
>>> OpenOffice (the same
>>> steps as described above) I was downloading something
>>> called "Genio"
>>> instead of OpenOffice...
>>>
>>>
>>> Hm, I doubt that you have downloaded "Genio" from a webpage of
>>> our openoffice.org  domain. "Genio" is
>>> already known in the Apple community. See here:
>>>
>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4721789?tstart=0
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there a bug?
>>>
>>> What should I do?
>>>
>>> Did y by any chance install malware on my computer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Depends on if you have just downloaded or downloaded *and*
>>> installed something.
>>>
>>> Maybe it helps already to delete anything with "Genio".
>>> In any case you should run a virus/malware check on your
>>> computer.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your reply!
>>>
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta (RC)

[Marcus (OOo)]

+1

Marcus



Am 03/06/2014 09:55 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

Hi all,

this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
(RC) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta. The Beta release is intended to
reach more early adopters and to receive more valuable feedback to
improve potentially critical areas for the final release.

Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least
2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the
iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on
Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
and overdue "must do" shift forward to support newer APIs (replace
deprecated APIs)  and platforms on MacOS.
And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now
support for 37 languages. New languages for this release compared to
4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai.

Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the
success of OpenOffice.

An overview of release issues can be found under:

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_Beta_fixes.html

The release candidate artifacts (1) (source release, as well as binary
releases for 37 languages) and further information how to verify and
review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta can be found on the following wiki page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1573601! And a
fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html

Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta

The vote starts now and will be open until:

Sunday evening, 9 March: 2014-03-09 11:00pm UTC.

But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...



(1) the upload for the Linux 32 bit artifacts is still ongoing, but 64
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Re: Fwd: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Roberto Galoppini]

2014-03-09 19:23 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo) :

> Am 03/09/2014 07:10 PM, schrieb Max Merbald:
>
>  Hello Kathelijne,
>>
>> I didn't get to this one - it's definitely meant to cheat people into
>> downloading Genieo. Maybe it's special to Mac users since Genieo is a
>> software targeted at Mac. It's not, though, very fair of Sourceforge to
>> do this. To get rid of it check your list of installed programs chose
>> Genieo and then uninstall.
>>
>> As to the other problem, someone using Mac should have to answer.
>>
>
> I'm sorry, I've also no Mac to check this.


I confirm it happens. I've raised this issue to our AdOps and asked to
remove the misleading ads, it will take few hours.
In future if you experience a similar problem feel free to send an email
directly to blockt...@sourceforge.net, since we have a process in place to
allow anyone to ask to remove misleading ads. See
https://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-blockthis-initiative-update/ to
know more.

Thanks for heads up, sorry for the inconvenience.

Roberto




>
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>
>   Original-Nachricht 
>> Betreff: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
>> Datum: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 18:51:44 +0100
>> Von: Kathelijne Rickert 
>> An: Max Merbald 
>> Kopie (CC): Marcus (OOo) ,
>> dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>> This is it: (see below attachment 1))
>>
>> It looks like you have to click on it, but it is only made to look like
>> OpenOffice to mislead people.
>>
>> I managed to download the latest OpenOffice version, but my problem is
>> still the same (see previous email). What can I do so this screen does
>> no longer pop up? (see below attachment 2)
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-09 18:41 GMT+01:00 Max Merbald > >:
>>
>> Hi Kathelijne,
>>
>> I'm not entirely sure which button you mean. Probably it's like
>> this: If you click on "OpenOffice..." at the top of the page you are
>> forwarded to this page:
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/. If you click
>> on "Download" on this page you would be downloading version 4.0.0,
>> the size of the file is given as 137 MBytes. I decided not to follow
>> this path any further but maybe it's a lead to people getting
>> malware along with OpenOffice. I'd say you've been quite helpful -
>> thank you for this!
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> Am 09.03.2014 18:24, schrieb Kathelijne Rickert:
>>
>>> I think I have found the reason why I downloaded Genio (and after
>>> checking the www, I'm not the only one).
>>>
>>> When you get to this page
>>> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>> files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_
>>> x86_install_nl.dmg/download),
>>>
>>> the downloading does not start immediately and (when you're not
>>> careful :-) ) you click on the download button which looks just
>>> like the OpenOffice download button (same color, same lay out).
>>> But that download button is an add. I think I am not the only one
>>> who made this mistake...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-09 18:19 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo) >> >:
>>>
>>> Am 03/09/2014 05:49 PM, schrieb Kathelijne Rickert:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to download the new Open Office version, but it
>>> is not working.
>>>
>>> 1. I go to: https://www.openoffice.org/nl/
>>>
>>> 2. I click on the second link: Ik wil OpenOffice
>>> downloade
>>>
>>> n
>>>
>>> 3. I am redirected to this page:
>>> https://www.openoffice.org/nl/download/
>>>
>>> 4. I click on the first link: Download Apache OpenOffice
>>> 4.0.1>> files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_
>>> x86_install_nl.dmg/download>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5. I am redirected to this page:
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>> files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_
>>> x86_install_nl.dmg/download
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Until here I don't see anyting uncommon. All fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> 6. When I try to open the download I get the following
>>> message: "Het
>>> programma kan niet geopened worden"
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you completed the download?
>>> Have you verified that the downloaded file was not saved broken?
>>> You can check this on this webpage:
>>>
>>> https://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html
>>>
>>> Before I had other trouble: when I tried to download
>>> OpenOffice (the same
>>> steps as described above) I was downloading something
>>> called "Genio"
>>> instead of OpenOffice...
>>>
>>>
>>> Hm, I doubt that you have downloaded "Genio" from a webpage of
>>> our openoffice.org  domain. "Genio" is
>>> already known in the Apple community. See here:
>>>
>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4721789?tstart=0
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there a bug?
>>>
>>> What should I do?
>>>
>>> Did y by any chance install malware on my computer?
>>>
>>>
>>> Depends on if you have just downloaded or downloaded *and*
>>> installed something.
>>>
>>> Maybe it

Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 03/09/2014 07:33 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:


Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:


Rob Weir wrote:


http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/

Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml

  Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email?




Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care to be
careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers, unfortunately.

We can be successful only if we manage to block their downloads. They
link to our binaries hosted on SourceForge (which is fine). Just
thinking loud, but if it was possible (on the Sourceforge side) to deny
all download requests that do not come from the openoffice.org or the
sourceforge.net domains, then the project would effectively be in
control. The embargo could be lifted just after the release.




I'm a bit confused by this statement. There are MANY sites the re-route to
SourceForge for our downloads, and this is perfectly fine. The concern is
for the  inadvertent download of not yet released Beta which is available
from the following URL space which is not even SourceForge:

  http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones


OK, for the Beta release in special this is true. It's not yet available 
on Sourceforge - at least I cannot see it.


In general, they link to our binaries at Sourceforge.


Correct? So, I think the restriction would need to be from ci.apache.org,
not SourceForge.


For the Beta release this is true.

However, I don't know how long this makes sense.

Marcus




For me this sounds like a great idea.

Maybe we should start with denying all download requests that some from
these bad websites.

@Roberto:
Can you tell us if this possible? If yes, is it much effort for you?

  Sure, sites could still copy all binaries being voted upon and offer

them locally, but this would require a more significant effort. on their
side.



And more HDD space and more own bandwith - which is also not what they
want.

Marcus


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Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 09/03/2014 Kay Schenk wrote:

The concern is
for the  inadvertent download of not yet released Beta which is available
from the following URL space which is not even SourceForge:
  http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones
Correct?


No. The link Rob posted at the beginning of this discussion
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml
will redirect you for download to something under
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/milestones/4.1.0-beta/binaries/en-US/
which, I assume, is the location we will advertise on the main download 
page for Beta downloads (otherwise Infra will be quite upset if we link 
to Apache servers!).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Calc - IFERROR function

[Vladislav Stevanovic]

I know IFERROR is part of LO. But, my question was: when will be
implemented in AOO? Lot of new things is nice to see in AOO, but this
problem is still there, from 2008. Does someone working on this?

Regards,
Wlada


2014-03-09 18:32 GMT+01:00 FR web forum :

> See this issue : https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=92677
> Seems to be implemented in LibO
>
> - Mail original -
> De: "Vladislav Stevanovic" 
> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Envoyé: Dimanche 9 Mars 2014 15:57:55
> Objet: Calc - IFERROR function
>
> Hello,
> I recived one calc document (Libre Office). In AOO  some function do not
> work, because AOO do not support IFERROR function. Is there chance that we
> can see this function in AOO soon?
>
> Regards,
> Wlada
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Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

[Kay Schenk]

On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:

> Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>
>> Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>>> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/
>> Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml
>>
>>  Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email?
>>>
>>
>> Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care to be
>> careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers, unfortunately.
>>
>> We can be successful only if we manage to block their downloads. They
>> link to our binaries hosted on SourceForge (which is fine). Just
>> thinking loud, but if it was possible (on the Sourceforge side) to deny
>> all download requests that do not come from the openoffice.org or the
>> sourceforge.net domains, then the project would effectively be in
>> control. The embargo could be lifted just after the release.
>>
>
I'm a bit confused by this statement. There are MANY sites the re-route to
SourceForge for our downloads, and this is perfectly fine. The concern is
for the  inadvertent download of not yet released Beta which is available
from the following URL space which is not even SourceForge:

 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones

Correct? So, I think the restriction would need to be from ci.apache.org,
not SourceForge.



> For me this sounds like a great idea.
>
> Maybe we should start with denying all download requests that some from
> these bad websites.
>
> @Roberto:
> Can you tell us if this possible? If yes, is it much effort for you?
>
>  Sure, sites could still copy all binaries being voted upon and offer
>> them locally, but this would require a more significant effort. on their
>> side.
>>
>
> And more HDD space and more own bandwith - which is also not what they
> want.
>
> Marcus
>
>
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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Kathelijne Rickert]

This is it: (see below attachment 1))

It looks like you have to click on it, but it is only made to look like
OpenOffice to mislead people.

I managed to download the latest OpenOffice version, but my problem is
still the same (see previous email). What can I do so this screen does no
longer pop up? (see below attachment 2)


2014-03-09 18:41 GMT+01:00 Max Merbald :

>  Hi Kathelijne,
>
> I'm not entirely sure which button you mean. Probably it's like this: If
> you click on "OpenOffice..." at the top of the page you are forwarded to
> this page:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/. If you
> click on "Download" on this page you would be downloading version 4.0.0,
> the size of the file is given as 137 MBytes. I decided not to follow this
> path any further but maybe it's a lead to people getting malware along with
> OpenOffice. I'd say you've been quite helpful - thank you for this!
>
> Max
>
> Am 09.03.2014 18:24, schrieb Kathelijne Rickert:
>
> I think I have found the reason why I downloaded Genio (and after checking
> the www, I'm not the only one).
>
>  When you get to this page (
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_nl.dmg/download),
> the downloading does not start immediately and (when you're not careful :-)
> ) you click on the download button which looks just like the OpenOffice
> download button (same color, same lay out). But that download button is an
> add. I think I am not the only one who made this mistake...
>
>
>
>
> 2014-03-09 18:19 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo) :
>
>> Am 03/09/2014 05:49 PM, schrieb Kathelijne Rickert:
>>
>>>  Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to download the new Open Office version, but it is not
>>> working.
>>>
>>> 1. I go to: https://www.openoffice.org/nl/
>>>
>>> 2. I click on the second link: Ik wil OpenOffice
>>>  downloade
>>>
>>> n
>>>
>>> 3. I am redirected to this page: https://www.openoffice.org/nl/download/
>>>
>>> 4. I click on the first link: Download Apache OpenOffice
>>>  4.0.1<
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_nl.dmg/download>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5. I am redirected to this page:
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_nl.dmg/download
>>>
>>
>> Until here I don't see anyting uncommon. All fine.
>>
>>
>>  6. When I try to open the download I get the following message: "Het
>>> programma kan niet geopened worden"
>>>
>>
>>  Have you completed the download?
>> Have you verified that the downloaded file was not saved broken?
>> You can check this on this webpage:
>>
>> https://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html
>>
>>  Before I had other trouble: when I tried to download OpenOffice (the
>>> same
>>> steps as described above) I was downloading something called "Genio"
>>>  instead of OpenOffice...
>>>
>>
>> Hm, I doubt that you have downloaded "Genio" from a webpage of our
>> openoffice.org domain. "Genio" is already known in the Apple community.
>> See here:
>>
>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4721789?tstart=0
>>
>>
>>  Is there a bug?
>>>
>>> What should I do?
>>>
>>> Did y by any chance install malware on my computer?
>>>
>>
>>  Depends on if you have just downloaded or downloaded *and* installed
>> something.
>>
>> Maybe it helps already to delete anything with "Genio".
>> In any case you should run a virus/malware check on your computer.
>>
>>
>>  Thanks in advance for your reply!
>>>
>>
>>  HTH
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Fwd: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 03/09/2014 07:10 PM, schrieb Max Merbald:

Hello Kathelijne,

I didn't get to this one - it's definitely meant to cheat people into
downloading Genieo. Maybe it's special to Mac users since Genieo is a
software targeted at Mac. It's not, though, very fair of Sourceforge to
do this. To get rid of it check your list of installed programs chose
Genieo and then uninstall.

As to the other problem, someone using Mac should have to answer.


I'm sorry, I've also no Mac to check this.

Marcus




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Betreff: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Datum: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 18:51:44 +0100
Von: Kathelijne Rickert 
An: Max Merbald 
Kopie (CC): Marcus (OOo) , dev@openoffice.apache.org



This is it: (see below attachment 1))

It looks like you have to click on it, but it is only made to look like
OpenOffice to mislead people.

I managed to download the latest OpenOffice version, but my problem is
still the same (see previous email). What can I do so this screen does
no longer pop up? (see below attachment 2)


2014-03-09 18:41 GMT+01:00 Max Merbald mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de>>:

Hi Kathelijne,

I'm not entirely sure which button you mean. Probably it's like
this: If you click on "OpenOffice..." at the top of the page you are
forwarded to this page:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/. If you click
on "Download" on this page you would be downloading version 4.0.0,
the size of the file is given as 137 MBytes. I decided not to follow
this path any further but maybe it's a lead to people getting
malware along with OpenOffice. I'd say you've been quite helpful -
thank you for this!

Max


Am 09.03.2014 18:24, schrieb Kathelijne Rickert:

I think I have found the reason why I downloaded Genio (and after
checking the www, I'm not the only one).

When you get to this page
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_nl.dmg/download),

the downloading does not start immediately and (when you're not
careful :-) ) you click on the download button which looks just
like the OpenOffice download button (same color, same lay out).
But that download button is an add. I think I am not the only one
who made this mistake...




2014-03-09 18:19 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo) mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de>>:

Am 03/09/2014 05:49 PM, schrieb Kathelijne Rickert:

Hello,

I'm trying to download the new Open Office version, but it
is not working.

1. I go to: https://www.openoffice.org/nl/

2. I click on the second link: Ik wil OpenOffice
downloade

n

3. I am redirected to this page:
https://www.openoffice.org/nl/download/

4. I click on the first link: Download Apache OpenOffice
4.0.1




5. I am redirected to this page:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_nl.dmg/download



Until here I don't see anyting uncommon. All fine.


6. When I try to open the download I get the following
message: "Het
programma kan niet geopened worden"


Have you completed the download?
Have you verified that the downloaded file was not saved broken?
You can check this on this webpage:

https://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html

Before I had other trouble: when I tried to download
OpenOffice (the same
steps as described above) I was downloading something
called "Genio"
instead of OpenOffice...


Hm, I doubt that you have downloaded "Genio" from a webpage of
our openoffice.org  domain. "Genio" is
already known in the Apple community. See here:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4721789?tstart=0


Is there a bug?

What should I do?

Did y by any chance install malware on my computer?


Depends on if you have just downloaded or downloaded *and*
installed something.

Maybe it helps already to delete anything with "Genio".
In any case you should run a virus/malware check on your
computer.


Thanks in advance for your reply!


HTH

Marcus


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Fwd: Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Max Merbald]

Hello Kathelijne,

I didn't get to this one - it's definitely meant to cheat people into 
downloading Genieo. Maybe it's special to Mac users since Genieo is a 
software targeted at Mac. It's not, though, very fair of Sourceforge to 
do this. To get rid of it check your list of installed programs chose 
Genieo and then uninstall.


As to the other problem, someone using Mac should have to answer.

Thanks again for your information!

Max




 Original-Nachricht 
Betreff:Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
Datum:  Sun, 9 Mar 2014 18:51:44 +0100
Von:Kathelijne Rickert 
An: Max Merbald 
Kopie (CC): Marcus (OOo) , dev@openoffice.apache.org



This is it: (see below attachment 1))

It looks like you have to click on it, but it is only made to look like 
OpenOffice to mislead people.


I managed to download the latest OpenOffice version, but my problem is 
still the same (see previous email). What can I do so this screen does 
no longer pop up? (see below attachment 2)



2014-03-09 18:41 GMT+01:00 Max Merbald >:


   Hi Kathelijne,

   I'm not entirely sure which button you mean. Probably it's like
   this: If you click on "OpenOffice..." at the top of the page you are
   forwarded to this page:
   http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/. If you click
   on "Download" on this page you would be downloading version 4.0.0,
   the size of the file is given as 137 MBytes. I decided not to follow
   this path any further but maybe it's a lead to people getting
   malware along with OpenOffice. I'd say you've been quite helpful -
   thank you for this!

   Max


   Am 09.03.2014 18:24, schrieb Kathelijne Rickert:

I think I have found the reason why I downloaded Genio (and after
checking the www, I'm not the only one).

When you get to this page

(http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_nl.dmg/download),
the downloading does not start immediately and (when you're not
careful :-) ) you click on the download button which looks just
like the OpenOffice download button (same color, same lay out).
But that download button is an add. I think I am not the only one
who made this mistake...




2014-03-09 18:19 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo) mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de>>:

Am 03/09/2014 05:49 PM, schrieb Kathelijne Rickert:

Hello,

I'm trying to download the new Open Office version, but it
is not working.

1. I go to: https://www.openoffice.org/nl/

2. I click on the second link: Ik wil OpenOffice
downloade

n

3. I am redirected to this page:
https://www.openoffice.org/nl/download/

4. I click on the first link: Download Apache OpenOffice

4.0.1



5. I am redirected to this page:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_nl.dmg/download


Until here I don't see anyting uncommon. All fine.


6. When I try to open the download I get the following
message: "Het
programma kan niet geopened worden"


Have you completed the download?
Have you verified that the downloaded file was not saved broken?
You can check this on this webpage:

https://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html

Before I had other trouble: when I tried to download
OpenOffice (the same
steps as described above) I was downloading something
called "Genio"
instead of OpenOffice...


Hm, I doubt that you have downloaded "Genio" from a webpage of
our openoffice.org  domain. "Genio" is
already known in the Apple community. See here:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4721789?tstart=0


Is there a bug?

What should I do?

Did y by any chance install malware on my computer?


Depends on if you have just downloaded or downloaded *and*
installed something.

Maybe it helps already to delete anything with "Genio".
In any case you should run a virus/malware check on your
computer.


Thanks in advance for your reply!


HTH

Marcus









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Re: Apache Open Office

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 03/09/2014 06:33 PM, schrieb Pavan Kohli:

I would like to download this program but because of the security issues would 
prefer

to download it directly from Apache web site……..would be grateful if you would 
send

me a link to do so.

Your co-operation will be appreciated


Use this webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html

This will redirect you to Sourceforge as our binaries are hosted there. 
With this you should be safe to download the original software.


Marcus


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Apache Open Office

[Pavan Kohli]

I would like to download this program but because of the security issues would 
prefer

to download it directly from Apache web site……..would be grateful if you would 
send

me a link to do so.

Your co-operation will be appreciated

many thanks

Pavan






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Re: Calc - IFERROR function

[FR web forum]

See this issue : https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=92677
Seems to be implemented in LibO

- Mail original -
De: "Vladislav Stevanovic" 
À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Envoyé: Dimanche 9 Mars 2014 15:57:55
Objet: Calc - IFERROR function

Hello,
I recived one calc document (Libre Office). In AOO  some function do not
work, because AOO do not support IFERROR function. Is there chance that we
can see this function in AOO soon?

Regards,
Wlada

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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 03/09/2014 05:49 PM, schrieb Kathelijne Rickert:

Hello,

I'm trying to download the new Open Office version, but it is not working.

1. I go to: https://www.openoffice.org/nl/

2. I click on the second link: Ik wil OpenOffice
downloade
n

3. I am redirected to this page: https://www.openoffice.org/nl/download/

4. I click on the first link: Download Apache OpenOffice
4.0.1

5. I am redirected to this page:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_nl.dmg/download


Until here I don't see anyting uncommon. All fine.


6. When I try to open the download I get the following message: "Het
programma kan niet geopened worden"


Have you completed the download?
Have you verified that the downloaded file was not saved broken?
You can check this on this webpage:

https://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html


Before I had other trouble: when I tried to download OpenOffice (the same
steps as described above) I was downloading something called "Genio"
instead of OpenOffice...


Hm, I doubt that you have downloaded "Genio" from a webpage of our 
openoffice.org domain. "Genio" is already known in the Apple community. 
See here:


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4721789?tstart=0


Is there a bug?

What should I do?

Did y by any chance install malware on my computer?


Depends on if you have just downloaded or downloaded *and* installed 
something.


Maybe it helps already to delete anything with "Genio".
In any case you should run a virus/malware check on your computer.


Thanks in advance for your reply!


HTH

Marcus


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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Max Merbald]

Hello Kathelijne,

you did the right steps and you used the correct pages to download 
OpenOffice. You downloaded a version for Mac, as I can tell from what 
you write below. The only reason I could think up why you couldn't open 
the downloaded file is you are probably not using Mac but Windows (you 
haven't written which operating sytem you're using) and need to download 
the version for Windows.


You should not, however, have received Genio when downloading 
Openoffice. That can happen when you use other download sources than 
ours. Genio is a sort of adware which at least borders on malware. You 
should remove it from your computer.


Good look with OpenOffice!

Max


Am 09.03.2014 17:49, schrieb Kathelijne Rickert:

Hello,

I'm trying to download the new Open Office version, but it is not working.

1. I go to: https://www.openoffice.org/nl/

2. I click on the second link: Ik wil OpenOffice
downloade
n

3. I am redirected to this page: https://www.openoffice.org/nl/download/

4. I click on the first link: Download Apache OpenOffice
4.0.1

5. I am redirected to this page:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_nl.dmg/download

6. When I try to open the download I get the following message: "Het
programma kan niet geopened worden"

Before I had other trouble: when I tried to download OpenOffice (the same
steps as described above) I was downloading something called "Genio"
instead of OpenOffice...

Is there a bug?

What should I do?

Did y by any chance install malware on my computer?

Thanks in advance for your reply!

Kind regards,
Kathelijne Rickert




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Re: Calculate file checksums via Javascript

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 03/08/2014 02:36 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Rob Weir wrote:

http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html
This gets around 90 visits per day, almost all are referrals from
Google searches.


OK, I agree it should be killed by deleting it then.

Of course, internal link from openoffice.org pages to
http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html should be
rewritten to point to http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html


Hm, there are some that need to be changed. I volunteer to take care.

Marcus


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Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 03/08/2014 12:29 AM, schrieb Vladislav Stevanovic:

When somebody want to download beta version of AOO it will be good aproach
to show pop-up dialog with warnings that this is not stable version and it
only for testing. We can not stopped other to write what they write about
AOO but we can protect potential users with info dialog when they press
link for downloading beta version.


That will be done on the download webpage - when the Beta is actually 
available.


Marcus




2014-03-08 0:09 GMT+01:00 Andrea Pescetti:


Rob Weir wrote:


  http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/

Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml


Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email?




Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care to be
careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers, unfortunately.

We can be successful only if we manage to block their downloads. They link
to our binaries hosted on SourceForge (which is fine). Just thinking loud,
but if it was possible (on the Sourceforge side) to deny all download
requests that do not come from the openoffice.org or the 
sourceforge.netdomains, then the project would effectively be in control. The 
embargo
could be lifted just after the release.

Sure, sites could still copy all binaries being voted upon and offer them
locally, but this would require a more significant effort. on their side.

Regards,
   Andrea.


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Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Rob Weir wrote:

http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml


Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email?


Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care to be
careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers, unfortunately.

We can be successful only if we manage to block their downloads. They
link to our binaries hosted on SourceForge (which is fine). Just
thinking loud, but if it was possible (on the Sourceforge side) to deny
all download requests that do not come from the openoffice.org or the
sourceforge.net domains, then the project would effectively be in
control. The embargo could be lifted just after the release.


For me this sounds like a great idea.

Maybe we should start with denying all download requests that some from 
these bad websites.


@Roberto:
Can you tell us if this possible? If yes, is it much effort for you?


Sure, sites could still copy all binaries being voted upon and offer
them locally, but this would require a more significant effort. on their
side.


And more HDD space and more own bandwith - which is also not what they want.

Marcus


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Re: Calculate file checksums via Javascript

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 03/08/2014 12:20 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:

Am 03/07/2014 11:13 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Andrea Pescetti
wrote:


Marcus (OOo) wrote:



Am 03/07/2014 09:02 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:



To start, we should definitely mention it in
https://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html



This file is outdated. Better to put it to the "checksums.html" which
directly linked from the download webpage which I've done now.




Oh yes, checksums.html is much better, thanks.

Of course I had found the former through a search engine... which leads
me
to think we should kill
http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html it and replace it
with
a one-line page, linking to
http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html . Does it make sense?



Or we can delete the page we don't want and I can request its removal
from the Google index.  That would be simpler, unless we have a lot of
3rd party links to the old page, which I doubt is the case.



Do you have any statistics (page hits) about the webpage? If not, then I
also favor to delete it from the index.



http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html

This gets around 90 visits per day, almost all are referrals from
Google searches.

One external page linking in is this Nintendo Wii discussion page (!?):

hamburg-forum.com/board10-hamburg-forum-allgemein/board17-technik-telekommunikation/361-nintendo-wii-prüfsummen-iso-images/


A post in a forum from 2007.


Also:  
techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/use-md5-hashes-to-verify-software-downloads/374/


A blog post also from 2007.

Nothing important that would justiy to keep the webpage.

Marcus


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Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

[Kathelijne Rickert]

Hello,

I'm trying to download the new Open Office version, but it is not working.

1. I go to: https://www.openoffice.org/nl/

2. I click on the second link: Ik wil OpenOffice
downloade
n

3. I am redirected to this page: https://www.openoffice.org/nl/download/

4. I click on the first link: Download Apache OpenOffice
4.0.1

5. I am redirected to this page:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/nl/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_MacOS_x86_install_nl.dmg/download

6. When I try to open the download I get the following message: "Het
programma kan niet geopened worden"

Before I had other trouble: when I tried to download OpenOffice (the same
steps as described above) I was downloading something called "Genio"
instead of OpenOffice...

Is there a bug?

What should I do?

Did y by any chance install malware on my computer?

Thanks in advance for your reply!

Kind regards,
Kathelijne Rickert

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta (RC)

[Juergen Schmidt]

Am Donnerstag, 6. März 2014 um 09:55 schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> Hi all,
>  
> this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate
> (RC) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta. The Beta release is intended to
> reach more early adopters and to receive more valuable feedback to
> improve potentially critical areas for the final release.
>  
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least
> 2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the
> iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step
> forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on
> Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long
> and overdue "must do" shift forward to support newer APIs (replace
> deprecated APIs) and platforms on MacOS.
> And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now
> support for 37 languages. New languages for this release compared to
> 4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai.
>  
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the
> success of OpenOffice.
>  
> An overview of release issues can be found under:
>  
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_Beta_fixes.html
>  
> The release candidate artifacts (1) (source release, as well as binary
> releases for 37 languages) and further information how to verify and
> review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta can be found on the following wiki page:
>  
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
>  
> The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1573601! And a
> fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under
>  
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
>  
> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta
>  
> The vote starts now and will be open until:
>  
> Sunday evening, 9 March: 2014-03-09 11:00pm UTC.
>  
> But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
> members.
>  
> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta
> [ ] 0 Don't care
> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>  
>  
+1, I built from scratch from the  src release, reviewed the rat scan results 
and played around with the Mac version.

Juergen
>  
>  
> (1) the upload for the Linux 32 bit artifacts is still ongoing, but 64
> bit is already available.
>  
>  

Calc - IFERROR function

[Vladislav Stevanovic]

Hello,
I recived one calc document (Libre Office). In AOO  some function do not
work, because AOO do not support IFERROR function. Is there chance that we
can see this function in AOO soon?

Regards,
Wlada

Re: Marketing - Apache logo

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 26/02/2014 Detlef Nannen wrote:

For events we bought flyers and posters in the last months, and 2
transparents this week. Flyers and posters are designed in German
language for German speaking countries.


The normal process is that you ask in advance, stating:
- who is going to use them
- where will these people use them (list of events, conferences)
- what materials you are producing (you already sent this in the ZIP file)
- an estimate of costs

This phase occurs on this list, i.e., you ask and get approval here.

For materials invoiced in 2014 we may still be able to go through the 
process now, if you send the dev list the relevant information.


Once the dev list is OK with the refunds, you will then move off-list 
and be in contact with the Apache treasurer to have the invoices 
reimbursed. Another recommendation is that people attending an event 
send a short report to this list (mail, blog post, pictures...).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Close, but not quite 100 million...

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 05/03/2014 jan i wrote:

If somebody with drawing skills, could make a "near 100 million" logo
before march 24, I will for sure add it to my first slide.


The trend is clear and the official counter (which includes the language 
packs) is already over 100 millions. There is still a month before 
ApacheCon, so I suggest that we go directly for the "100 millions" logo 
for ApacheCon in any case.


Is the official template for slides already available? Speakers in the 
OpenOffice track could use a slightly modified template with the "100 
millions" OpenOffice logo in that case.


Of course we still need someone who can design the "100 millions" logo 
variant of the official OpenOffice 4 logo!


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Building OpenOffice using VS2012 Express?

[LOH KOK HOE]

Dear all,
Has anyone successfully build OpenOffice using VS2012 Express? I'm
currently experiencing some error while following command is issue:

./configure --with-dmake-url=
https://dmake.apache-extras.org.codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.2.tar.bz2--with-cl-home=/cygdrive/c/"Program
Files (x86)"/"Microsoft Visual Studio
11.0"/VC

And I have this error:

checking for mspdb80.dll... no
checking for mspdb71.dll... no
checking the Microsoft C/C++ Compiler... found
(/cygdrive/c/PROGRA~2/Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0/VC/bin/cl.exe)
checking the Version of Microsoft C/C++ Compiler... found Compiler version
 in "./configure: line 8127: /cygdrive/c/PROGRA~2/Microsoft: is a directory"
./configure: line 8138: test: : integer expression expected
configure: error: Compiler too old. Use Microsoft C/C++ .NET 2008.