Re: Native Language and Localization pages on cwiki might benefit from some organization

2014-05-05 Thread Jörg Schmidt
before I begin: 
-please take into account possible linguistic inaccuracies, my english is not 
the
best 
-please understand that at the moment I do _not_ want to discuss basic things 
(or
new solutions), I respect in the presence the existing decisions of the 
Community


on Friday, May 02, 2014 11:26 PM Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 What requirements do you mean? Is there anything we can do better?

I think there is a problem and that is AOO the first Apache software project is
primarily intended for end users, not to experts. 
Between a software like the Apache web server and AOO this respect, there is a 
big
difference. 

What is the concrete 'problem'? 
Specialists and experts have no problems with international structures, 
especially
not with English as the project language, but for many end users is to 
difficult.
They do not understand structures, they can not communicate in English and
therefore they remain in distance to the project.

What could be the solution, especially if one looks at the experience with
OpenOffice.org? 
I think we need another real local communities as part of the international
community. 
This is not an easy topic that is not an issue we can resolve quickly here, but 
it
is an important issue which we need to clarify in the next few years. 
Yes, I mean years, because it will take so long because many things must be
discussed with care.

 Local is not only better than nothing, it is vital! 

Yes, thank you, at this point we are in total agreement.  

 I don't get the directly. OpenOffice is marketed by 
 its users, by its volunteers.

It's simple, directly is the AOO project, and no, marketing is not made by
users. (because not all users simultaneously project volunteers are)
Not directly is also 8for example) the marketing from the PrOOo-box, because
although only OO community members collaborate applies the PrOOo box formally as
'third party', ie not belonging directly to the project.

 The
 fact that we
 have an international marketing list does not mean that we only admit
 centrally organized marketing activities. 

This is clear for me, but there is also a practical side:

in not a few cases, we have to decide whether we approve of local activities, 
even
if they are not coordinated internationally, or whether we do without it.

English To many falls very heavy, so many local helper does not want to help if 
we
make the to international coordination.

A few weeks ago we had on the German mailing list, a discussion in which, for
example, Jürgen meant a FAQ website must always also primarily in the project
language (English) exist.
I understand this desire , but if we are guided by generally because we lose
potential accomplices , namely those which, although would be willing to create 
a
German -language FAQ, but not simultaneous are willing to make an English
translation of this FAQ .

Another example is that we do not have a German-language forum, and currently no
people who want to do it. There are, however, for more than 10 years, the
outstanding German Forum http://de.openoffice.info. 
Would not it be pragmatically useful if we the users completely equal recommend
this Forum? 

If I point to such problems often I get just a shrug.

 The international marketing exists to help local activities,
 not to kill
 them: if you need a presentation about OpenOffice to translate in
 German, or if you need someone to design materials that you want to
 print and distribute, the marketing list is at your service.
 The project
 can even pay for marketing materials, so feel free to ask.

Yes, that is clear. 

Even I know that, and Detlef is currently in the process to make a request, but
let me say the following: 

Is Apache clear how much money is involved here? It's not just about money for
flyers or similar materials, but also for technical equipment or sometimes money
for travel expenses. 
I myself volunteer worked in the German OOo-community more than 7 years (I mean
OpenOffice_.org_ in this case) and I know quite accurately the former costs for
marketing in Germany, those were _one year_ significantly above 10,000.00 Euros
(approximately U.S. $ 13,750.00 at today's exchange rate), only for running 
costs.
And this money means only the money which has itself collected the German
OOo-community, and not money from SUN or Oracle.

I write this not because we currently need so much money, but I write it to
generally designate how big the financial needs when AOO similar successfully
developed as OOo earlier.
And because we can estimate this, it is time to look for ways like this is to
ensure in the future.


Greetings,
Jörg




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Re: [PROPOSAL] Do not drop languages in minor releases

2014-05-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Il 29/04/2014 09:47, jan i wrote:

On 29 April 2014 09:36, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

we had something like this before but defined a new rule to be 100% UI
complete and I think this is quite easy and a good rule.


Note: I'm keeping the 100% rule to add a language. I'm just saying that 
we shouldn't drop languages for 4.2 if they are 100% complete in 4.1, to 
match users expectations. I definitely don't want to see more complex 
combinations of factors, just think like a user.



The case Andrea described above should be more theoretical if an active
community is behind a translation.


Theoretical? It is very concrete. We already dropped (and then rescued) 
Norwegian, Danish and others due to missing coordination: we did have 
active volunteers, but they missed a deadline and we didn't include it. 
I can find it acceptable for a major release, but not for the minor 
versions (4.0, 4.1, 4.2...).


Note: if the late README change to correct the minimal OS X version had 
been imported into Pootle correctly, we would have had all languages at 
99.99% just before RC time... and that would have been interesting!



I would still prefer the 100% rule. But anyway it's my personal opinion.

+1, not requiring 100% UI (which is quite easy to do for any translator) is
a dangerous path.


Who is this dangerous to? Intermittent support is very bad for users and 
it hurts our reputation more than a missing minimal translation update.


For minor updates I would focus in converting users into volunteers: the 
new JavaScript magic on the download page could display a Help needed 
warning when someone downloads a currently unmaintained language (which 
will still have very high coverage, since we only add a language when it 
reaches 100%).


And for major updates (here I mean 5.x, assuming that major UI changes 
are accompanied by major localization changes) we would start clean and 
require 100% again.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Misleading Mac message

2014-05-05 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 01.05.2014 02:38, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 04/30/2014 01:42 PM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

A User on en-Forum has posted this:

After receiving notification of the availability of Open Office 4.1.0,
in which it was stated that the update was suitable for Mac OS X 10.3
onwards, I downloaded the relevant file … noting that it stated:
Download Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
Click here to download (hosted by Sourceforge.net) for:
Mac OS X (10.6 or older) and English (British) | ~159 MByte |
Released: 2014-Apr-29.

However when I attempted to run the instal, a message was displayed
indicating that this could not proceed as my version of Mac OS X was
not suitable - I run OS X 10.6.8.
--

This is only entry on the thread at
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=69463


I've investigated a bit and think I've found something that is not
correct. I've fixed this now.

Is it possible to ask the user to test again? Would be great.



I checked the download page on my 'fake' (1) Mac OS X 10.6.x system. It 
leads me correctly to the download of the 4.0.1 version.


(1) 'fake', because I just changed the version information from 10.9.2 
to 10.6.2 on my Mac OS X 10.9.2 system



Best regards, Oliver.


PS:
An output of the table could be also very helpful:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

Thanks

Marcus


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Re: Broken Bugzilla link in Release Notes

2014-05-05 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 02.05.2014 00:36, Kay Schenk wrote:



On 05/01/2014 02:37 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Our 4.1 release notes

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes

contain a link to Bugzilla for a list of fixed bugs

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=AOO_410_Resolved


but the list does not work for me at the moment. If I am not logged in,
it prompts for a login, but if I open the link while logged in I get an
error: The search named AOO_410_Resolved does not exist.

Can it be fixed?

Thanks,
   Andrea.

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Try this link instead --

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=AOO_410_Resolvedsharer_id=249136

if it works, we can change it. Maybe we need the sharer_id




At the beginning of the Release Notes in chapter General Remarks is link
http://s.apache.org/AOO410-solved
which resolves to
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDlist_id=144896query_format=advancedtarget_milestone=4.1.0

This one should work.

I will replace the link in chapter Bug Fixes accordingly.


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Re: Broken Bugzilla link in Release Notes

2014-05-05 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 05.05.2014 10:47, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 02.05.2014 00:36, Kay Schenk wrote:



On 05/01/2014 02:37 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Our 4.1 release notes

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes


contain a link to Bugzilla for a list of fixed bugs

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=AOO_410_Resolved



but the list does not work for me at the moment. If I am not logged in,
it prompts for a login, but if I open the link while logged in I get an
error: The search named AOO_410_Resolved does not exist.

Can it be fixed?

Thanks,
   Andrea.

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Try this link instead --

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=AOO_410_Resolvedsharer_id=249136


if it works, we can change it. Maybe we need the sharer_id




At the beginning of the Release Notes in chapter General Remarks is link
http://s.apache.org/AOO410-solved
which resolves to
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDlist_id=144896query_format=advancedtarget_milestone=4.1.0


This one should work.

I will replace the link in chapter Bug Fixes accordingly.



Done.

I also looked at the linked translated Release Notes pages and made the 
corresponding changes.


Please check, if the link is working for you.


Best regards, Oliver.



Best regards, Oliver.


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Re: OpenOffice bugs and confidential documents

2014-05-05 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 03.05.2014 13:46, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 4/23/14 9:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

I received a DOCX document that OpenOffice Writer cannot open (crash).
The company that sent it to me cannot make it public ...

I understand the problem and we know this situation. I believe it is
not easy to address in an open source project. Either the documents can
be cleaned up and confidential data get removed or the company contacted
another company where special agreements can be done.


In the case of a crash, you are always on the receiver side, meaning
that the DOCX document causing the crash is something that people sent
you. And these people may be uninterested in problems with OpenOffice.

Besides the various options for anonymizing a document either on the
sender or receiver side, already discussed in the thread and quite
interesting in themselves, are there other options involving only the
document and (a specially configured version of) OpenOffice?

I mean, if the first thing a developer does on a crash is to obtain a
meaningful stacktrace and analyze it, and the document becomes mostly
irrelevant at that point, then a stacktrace could be enough to improve
the quality of OpenOffice without needing to access confidential data.
Or is that not enough to work with?



A stacktrace might be enough.
But from my experience at least half of the crashes I had fixed are 
sympthoms on errors which occur much earlier in the processing. Thus, in 
most cases a sample document is needed to fix a crash. But a stacktrace 
could be the first information which should be share - in the one or the 
other case this might be enough to fix the crash.



Best regards, Oliver.


Regards,
   Andrea.

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AOO Post 4.1 Test Starts! Call for volunteers!

2014-05-05 Thread Yuzhen Fan
Hi All,

We have released AOO 4.1 successfully on Apr 29 with voting, but we still
have some test cases not completed during 4.1 stage, in order to check the
post 4.1 quality status, here comes the call for volunteers on AOO post 4.1
testing.

If you have interest and can help over the next few weeks, on Linux Redhat
64bit, Linux Redhat 32bit, Linux Ubuntu 64bit, Mac 10.9, Windows 7 and
Windows 8, please send a note to the QA mailing list (
q...@openoffice.apache.org).   If you have a Testlink account[1] send your ID
as well as what platform you can help test(if you haven't a Testlink
account, you can register one).   You should also get installation sets
from trunk [2] and report issues in Bugzilla [3].  You may want to see
detail instructions in Test Guidence [4].

[1] http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/index.php
[2] http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/
[3] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
[4]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Full+Regression+Test+Guidance

Thanks!
 --
Regards,
Yu Zhen


[PROPOSAL] - additional text for the Update Notification of installed Mac OS X versions [was: Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release]

2014-05-05 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 30.04.2014 15:57, Rob Weir wrote:

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi,

I have committed new Update XML feeds.
Update notifications for Mac OS X OpenOffice installed instances are now
deactivated due to a oversight on my side.

As I would like to consider the change in the supported architecture I will
work on a solution in the next days.



One possible solution:  For the Mac OS update notifications, instead
of sending the user to the download page, send them to a special Mac
upgrade page.  That page can explain that there is a new 4.1 release
but it has a new prereq for OS X Lion.  This would be a very simple,
uncluttered page.  Then it would have a link that says something like
I have OS X 10.6 or above, which would then take them to the
download site.

If we keep it simple it could easily be translated for the native
language sites.



Yes, that would be a possible solution to our problem.

I also figured out that our update notification message in the 
application could display an additional custom text which can be 
provided via the Update XML feed.


The current message has two parts - status and description. The status 
is like this (e.g. for 4.0.0 English-US version):

status
OpenOffice 4.1.0 is available.

The installed version is OpenOffice 4.0.0.

Note: Before downloading an update, please ensure that you have 
sufficient access rights to install it.

A password, usually the administrator's or root password, may be required.
/status

The description is like this (e.g. for 4.0.0 English-US version):
description
The automatic download of the update is currently not available.

Click 'Download...' to download OpenOffice 4.1.0 manually from the web site.
/description

The description can be extended by further text provided by the Update 
XML feed.


I propose to include the following text for installed Mac OS X versions 
of OpenOffice:

additional text
Only for Mac OS X version 10.7 or never
/additional text

Ideally, this additional text should be translated. As the text snippets 
('Only for', 'version' and 'or never') are simple I would use Google 
translate to get the corresponding translations.


Any objections, include this additional text in our Update Notification 
message for installed Mac OS X versions?


I will already go ahead regarding my proposal as the release is out 
since last Tuesday and the update notification for installed OpenOffice 
instances on Mac OS X is not working since last Wednesday.
I will immediately revert the corresponding changes, if objections are 
raised.



Best regards, Oliver.


-Rob




Best regards, Oliver.



On 29.04.2014 14:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:


Hi,

I am in preparation of the activation of the update notification for our
AOO 4.1.0 release for installed OpenOffice instances - versions 3.2.0,
3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 4.0.0 and 4.0.1

Here is the list of the languages whose users will be guided to a
localized website from the update notification in OpenOffice:
- Czechhttp://www.openoffice.org/cs/download
- Germanhttp://www.openoffice.org/de
- Spanishhttp://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar
- Frenchhttp://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger
- Italianhttp://www.openoffice.org/it/download
- Japanesehttp://www.openoffice.org/ja/download
- Dutchhttp://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html
- Portuguese (European)http://www.openoffice.org/pt
- Slovakhttp://www.openoffice.org/sk/download
- Turkishhttp://www.openoffice.org/tr
- Chinese (simplified)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn
- Chinese (traditional)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw

As far as I can see the websites for the following languages need an
update for AOO 4.1.0
- French
- Japanese
- Dutch

Request to all native speakers of the above languages:
- Please have a look, if the localilzed website is ok.
- Please update the localized website, if needed - esp. for French,
Japanese and Dutch

My plan is to go live with the update notification for AOO 4.1.0
tomorrow early afternoon (14:00 UTC+2).

Please leave my a note, if the one or the other localized website should
be dropped or kept for the update notification.
Thanks in advance.


Best regards, Oliver.



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Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release

2014-05-05 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 30.04.2014 15:25, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

I have committed new Update XML feeds.
Update notifications for Mac OS X OpenOffice installed instances are now
deactivated due to a oversight on my side.

As I would like to consider the change in the supported architecture I
will work on a solution in the next days.



First, I will bring back the Update Notification for installed 
OpenOffice instances on Mac OS X to AOO 4.0.1.


Afterwards, I will change the Update Notification according my made 
proposal - additional text Only for Mac OS versions 10.7 or never



Best regards, Oliver.



Best regards, Oliver.


On 29.04.2014 14:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

I am in preparation of the activation of the update notification for our
AOO 4.1.0 release for installed OpenOffice instances - versions 3.2.0,
3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 4.0.0 and 4.0.1

Here is the list of the languages whose users will be guided to a
localized website from the update notification in OpenOffice:
- Czechhttp://www.openoffice.org/cs/download
- Germanhttp://www.openoffice.org/de
- Spanishhttp://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar
- Frenchhttp://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger
- Italianhttp://www.openoffice.org/it/download
- Japanesehttp://www.openoffice.org/ja/download
- Dutchhttp://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html
- Portuguese (European)http://www.openoffice.org/pt
- Slovakhttp://www.openoffice.org/sk/download
- Turkishhttp://www.openoffice.org/tr
- Chinese (simplified)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn
- Chinese (traditional)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw

As far as I can see the websites for the following languages need an
update for AOO 4.1.0
- French
- Japanese
- Dutch

Request to all native speakers of the above languages:
- Please have a look, if the localilzed website is ok.
- Please update the localized website, if needed - esp. for French,
Japanese and Dutch

My plan is to go live with the update notification for AOO 4.1.0
tomorrow early afternoon (14:00 UTC+2).

Please leave my a note, if the one or the other localized website should
be dropped or kept for the update notification.
Thanks in advance.


Best regards, Oliver.


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Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release

2014-05-05 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 05 May 2014 12:14:44 +0200
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On 30.04.2014 15:25, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have committed new Update XML feeds.
  Update notifications for Mac OS X OpenOffice installed instances are now
  deactivated due to a oversight on my side.
 
  As I would like to consider the change in the supported architecture I
  will work on a solution in the next days.
 
 
 First, I will bring back the Update Notification for installed 
 OpenOffice instances on Mac OS X to AOO 4.0.1.
 
 Afterwards, I will change the Update Notification according my made 
 proposal - additional text Only for Mac OS versions 10.7 or never



Typo, Oliver, should read or newer




 
 Best regards, Oliver.
 
 
  Best regards, Oliver.
 
 
  On 29.04.2014 14:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am in preparation of the activation of the update notification for our
  AOO 4.1.0 release for installed OpenOffice instances - versions 3.2.0,
  3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 4.0.0 and 4.0.1
 
  Here is the list of the languages whose users will be guided to a
  localized website from the update notification in OpenOffice:
  - Czechhttp://www.openoffice.org/cs/download
  - Germanhttp://www.openoffice.org/de
  - Spanishhttp://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar
  - Frenchhttp://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger
  - Italianhttp://www.openoffice.org/it/download
  - Japanesehttp://www.openoffice.org/ja/download
  - Dutchhttp://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html
  - Portuguese (European)http://www.openoffice.org/pt
  - Slovakhttp://www.openoffice.org/sk/download
  - Turkishhttp://www.openoffice.org/tr
  - Chinese (simplified)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn
  - Chinese (traditional)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw
 
  As far as I can see the websites for the following languages need an
  update for AOO 4.1.0
  - French
  - Japanese
  - Dutch
 
  Request to all native speakers of the above languages:
  - Please have a look, if the localilzed website is ok.
  - Please update the localized website, if needed - esp. for French,
  Japanese and Dutch
 
  My plan is to go live with the update notification for AOO 4.1.0
  tomorrow early afternoon (14:00 UTC+2).
 
  Please leave my a note, if the one or the other localized website should
  be dropped or kept for the update notification.
  Thanks in advance.
 
 
  Best regards, Oliver.
 
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AOO 4.1 crashes by opening database using MySQL SDBC Driver

2014-05-05 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

On MacOS I use AOO with the MySQL SDBC Driver. It worked fine with AOO 
4.0.1. But if I try to open a database with AOO 4.1 it crashes. (Same 
userprofile as for 4.0.1.)


Now I removed the extension and want to reinstall but it says: This 
extension doesn't work on this computer. :-(


Will there be a new version for AOO 4.1?

Thanks!
Mathias

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Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release

2014-05-05 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 05.05.2014 12:18, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

On Mon, 05 May 2014 12:14:44 +0200
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:


Hi,

On 30.04.2014 15:25, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

I have committed new Update XML feeds.
Update notifications for Mac OS X OpenOffice installed instances are now
deactivated due to a oversight on my side.

As I would like to consider the change in the supported architecture I
will work on a solution in the next days.



First, I will bring back the Update Notification for installed
OpenOffice instances on Mac OS X to AOO 4.0.1.

Afterwards, I will change the Update Notification according my made
proposal - additional text Only for Mac OS versions 10.7 or never




Typo, Oliver, should read or newer



Yes, of course. Thanks for the hint.
I also made this typo in the message for my proposal.


Best regards, Oliver.




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Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release

2014-05-05 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 05.05.2014 12:14, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 30.04.2014 15:25, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

I have committed new Update XML feeds.
Update notifications for Mac OS X OpenOffice installed instances are now
deactivated due to a oversight on my side.

As I would like to consider the change in the supported architecture I
will work on a solution in the next days.



First, I will bring back the Update Notification for installed
OpenOffice instances on Mac OS X to AOO 4.0.1.



Done.

Best regards, Oliver.


Afterwards, I will change the Update Notification according my made
proposal - additional text Only for Mac OS versions 10.7 or newer


Best regards, Oliver.



Best regards, Oliver.


On 29.04.2014 14:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

I am in preparation of the activation of the update notification for our
AOO 4.1.0 release for installed OpenOffice instances - versions 3.2.0,
3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 4.0.0 and 4.0.1

Here is the list of the languages whose users will be guided to a
localized website from the update notification in OpenOffice:
- Czechhttp://www.openoffice.org/cs/download
- Germanhttp://www.openoffice.org/de
- Spanishhttp://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar
- Frenchhttp://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger
- Italianhttp://www.openoffice.org/it/download
- Japanesehttp://www.openoffice.org/ja/download
- Dutchhttp://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html
- Portuguese (European)http://www.openoffice.org/pt
- Slovakhttp://www.openoffice.org/sk/download
- Turkishhttp://www.openoffice.org/tr
- Chinese (simplified)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn
- Chinese (traditional)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw

As far as I can see the websites for the following languages need an
update for AOO 4.1.0
- French
- Japanese
- Dutch

Request to all native speakers of the above languages:
- Please have a look, if the localilzed website is ok.
- Please update the localized website, if needed - esp. for French,
Japanese and Dutch

My plan is to go live with the update notification for AOO 4.1.0
tomorrow early afternoon (14:00 UTC+2).

Please leave my a note, if the one or the other localized website should
be dropped or kept for the update notification.
Thanks in advance.


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Re: [PROPOSAL] - additional text for the Update Notification of installed Mac OS X versions [was: Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release]

2014-05-05 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Him

On 05.05.2014 12:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

[Snip]


I propose to include the following text for installed Mac OS X versions
of OpenOffice:
additional text
Only for Mac OS X version 10.7 or never
/additional text

Ideally, this additional text should be translated. As the text snippets
('Only for', 'version' and 'or never') are simple I would use Google
translate to get the corresponding translations.

Any objections, include this additional text in our Update Notification
message for installed Mac OS X versions?

I will already go ahead regarding my proposal as the release is out
since last Tuesday and the update notification for installed OpenOffice
instances on Mac OS X is not working since last Wednesday.
I will immediately revert the corresponding changes, if objections are
raised.




Here are the translated text snippets using translate.google.com for the 
translations:

- en-US   English (US)
Only for Mac OS X versions 10.7 or newer
- ar  Arabic
فقط لإصدارات نظام التشغيل Mac OS X 10.7 أو أحدث
- ast Asturian
[translation missing]
- bg  Bulgarian
Само за Mac OS X 10.7 или по-нова версия
- cs  Czech
Pouze pro Mac OS X verze 10.7 nebo novější
- da  Danish
Kun for Mac OS X version 10.7 eller nyere
- de  German
Nur für Mac OS X-Versionen 10.7 oder neuer
- el  Greek
Μόνο για Mac OS X εκδόσεις 10.7 ή νεότερο
- en-GB   English (British)
Only for Mac OS X versions 10.7 or newer
- es  Spanish
Sólo para versiones de Mac OS X 10.7 o más reciente
- eu  Basque
Mac OS X bertsioak soilik 10.7 edo berriagoa
- fi  Finnish
Vain Mac OS X-versiot 10.7 tai uudempi
- fr  French
Seulement pour les versions Mac OS X 10.7 ou plus récent
- gd  Gaelic (Scottish)
[translation missing]
- gl  Galician
Só para as versións de Mac OS X 10.7 ou superior
- he  Hebrew
רק עבור גרסאות Mac OS X 10.7 או חדש יותר
- hi  Hindi
मैक ओएस एक्स संस्करणों के लिए 10.7 या नए
- hu  Hungarian
Csak a Mac OS X 10.7 vagy újabb verzió
- it  Italian
Solo per le versioni di Mac OS X 10.7 o più recente
- ja  Japanese
唯一のMac OS Xバージョン10.7以降
- km  Khmer
សម្រាប់តែកំណែ Mac OS X 10.7 ឬថ្មីជាង
- ko  Korean
오직 맥 OS X 버전 10.7 이상 버전
- lt  Lituanian
Tik Mac OS X versijos 10.7 arba naujesnė
- nb  Norwegian (Bokmål)
Bare for Mac OS X versjon 10.7 eller nyere
- nl  Dutch
Alleen voor Mac OS X-versies 10.7 of nieuwer
- pl  Polish
Tylko dla wersji Mac OS X 10.7 lub nowszy
- pt  Portuguese (European)
Somente para as versões do Mac OS X 10.7 ou mais recente
- pt-BR   Portuguese (Brazilian)
Somente para as versões do Mac OS X 10.7 ou mais recente
- ru  Russian
Только для Mac OS X версий 10.7 или новее
- sk  Slovak
Iba pre Mac OS X verzia 10.7 alebo novší
- sl  Slovenian
Samo za Mac OS X 10.7 ali novejši
- sr  Serbian (Cyrillic)
Само за Мац ОС Кс 10.7 или новији верзије
- sv  Swedish
Endast för Mac OS X-versioner 10.7 eller nyare
- ta  Tamil
ஒரே Mac OS X, பதிப்புகள் 10.7 அல்லது புதிய
- th  Thai
เฉพาะสำหรับ Mac OS X รุ่น 10.7 หรือใหม่กว่า
- tr  Turkish
Sadece Mac OS X sürümleri için 10.7 veya daha yeni
- vi  Vietnamese
Chỉ cho các phiên bản Mac OS X 10.7 hoặc mới hơn
- zh-CN   Chinese (simplified)
仅适用于Mac OS X版本10.7或更高版本
- zh-TW   Chinese (traditional)
僅適用於Mac OS X版本10.7或更高版本


Please review the translations.

The translations for Asturian and Gaelic (Scottish) are missing. Thus, I 
will use the English text, if until a translation is provided.



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Apache OpenOffice Weekly News #3

2014-05-05 Thread Rob Weir
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_weekly_news_3

Contributions for next week's issue are welcome on the wiki:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40508638

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Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release

2014-05-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,


 On 30.04.2014 15:25, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

 Hi,

 I have committed new Update XML feeds.
 Update notifications for Mac OS X OpenOffice installed instances are now
 deactivated due to a oversight on my side.

 As I would like to consider the change in the supported architecture I
 will work on a solution in the next days.


 First, I will bring back the Update Notification for installed OpenOffice
 instances on Mac OS X to AOO 4.0.1.

 Afterwards, I will change the Update Notification according my made proposal
 - additional text Only for Mac OS versions 10.7 or never


We have new translations in AOO 4.1, like Hindi and Bulgarian.  Is
there anything special we need to update to make sure that older OOo
3.3.0 users get upgrade notifications for AOO 4.1?

-Rob




 Best regards, Oliver.



 Best regards, Oliver.


 On 29.04.2014 14:09, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

 Hi,

 I am in preparation of the activation of the update notification for our
 AOO 4.1.0 release for installed OpenOffice instances - versions 3.2.0,
 3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 4.0.0 and 4.0.1

 Here is the list of the languages whose users will be guided to a
 localized website from the update notification in OpenOffice:
 - Czechhttp://www.openoffice.org/cs/download
 - Germanhttp://www.openoffice.org/de
 - Spanishhttp://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar
 - Frenchhttp://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger
 - Italianhttp://www.openoffice.org/it/download
 - Japanesehttp://www.openoffice.org/ja/download
 - Dutchhttp://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html
 - Portuguese (European)http://www.openoffice.org/pt
 - Slovakhttp://www.openoffice.org/sk/download
 - Turkishhttp://www.openoffice.org/tr
 - Chinese (simplified)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn
 - Chinese (traditional)http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw

 As far as I can see the websites for the following languages need an
 update for AOO 4.1.0
 - French
 - Japanese
 - Dutch

 Request to all native speakers of the above languages:
 - Please have a look, if the localilzed website is ok.
 - Please update the localized website, if needed - esp. for French,
 Japanese and Dutch

 My plan is to go live with the update notification for AOO 4.1.0
 tomorrow early afternoon (14:00 UTC+2).

 Please leave my a note, if the one or the other localized website should
 be dropped or kept for the update notification.
 Thanks in advance.


 Best regards, Oliver.


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Re: [RELEASE] urgent request - activation of Update Notification for our AOO 4.1.0 release

2014-05-05 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 05.05.2014 14:29, Rob Weir wrote:

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi,


On 30.04.2014 15:25, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:


Hi,

I have committed new Update XML feeds.
Update notifications for Mac OS X OpenOffice installed instances are now
deactivated due to a oversight on my side.

As I would like to consider the change in the supported architecture I
will work on a solution in the next days.



[Snip]



We have new translations in AOO 4.1, like Hindi and Bulgarian.  Is
there anything special we need to update to make sure that older OOo
3.3.0 users get upgrade notifications for AOO 4.1?



I have included all languages for which we made an AOO 4.1.0 
installation package available in the new Update XML feeds.
Thus, a user who had installed an OOo 3.2.1 version in Hindi should get 
an Update Notification.


I did not test all platforms and possible installations, but I faked 
some of my older OOo installations under Windows 7 by editing the 
version.ini file. My 'faked' OOo 3.2.1 Hindi version is getting an 
update notification for AOO 4.1.0


Best regards, Oliver.


-Rob



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Re: AOO 4.1 crashes by opening database using MySQL SDBC Driver

2014-05-05 Thread FR web forum
Did you talking about native driver?
http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/aoo-my-sdbc/

- Mail original -
De: Mathias Röllig mroellig.n...@gmx.net
À: Development AOO dev@openoffice.apache.org
Envoyé: Lundi 5 Mai 2014 12:24:07
Objet: AOO 4.1 crashes by opening database using MySQL SDBC Driver

Hello!

On MacOS I use AOO with the MySQL SDBC Driver. It worked fine with AOO 
4.0.1. But if I try to open a database with AOO 4.1 it crashes. (Same 
userprofile as for 4.0.1.)

Now I removed the extension and want to reinstall but it says: This 
extension doesn't work on this computer. :-(

Will there be a new version for AOO 4.1?

Thanks!
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Re: AOO 4.1 crashes by opening database using MySQL SDBC Driver

2014-05-05 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Also you can alternatively try the JDBC driver. It had work for me
better than unix-odbc on linux. Of course native driver will work as
well.

On 5/5/14, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote:
 Did you talking about native driver?
 http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/aoo-my-sdbc/

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 De: Mathias Röllig mroellig.n...@gmx.net
 À: Development AOO dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Envoyé: Lundi 5 Mai 2014 12:24:07
 Objet: AOO 4.1 crashes by opening database using MySQL SDBC Driver

 Hello!

 On MacOS I use AOO with the MySQL SDBC Driver. It worked fine with AOO
 4.0.1. But if I try to open a database with AOO 4.1 it crashes. (Same
 userprofile as for 4.0.1.)

 Now I removed the extension and want to reinstall but it says: This
 extension doesn't work on this computer. :-(

 Will there be a new version for AOO 4.1?

 Thanks!
 Mathias

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Looking for summer project

2014-05-05 Thread Alex Moore
Hi all,I'm a third year at Bucknell University and won't be able to work a full 
time position this summer due to an athletic commitment, so I was hoping to 
help out here. I have several years of coding experience with C and python, as 
well as SVN and GitHub, and will most likely have about 10 hours per week to 
devote to a project.


Please let me know if you can help me find a project, in the mean time I'll 
peruse the repo.


Thanks,
Alex Moore


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Re: Looking for summer project

2014-05-05 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Our wiki has a lot of documentation on development process, style and
of course the best way to start is by building AOO from source. So
please make sure you are able to consult our Build guide and
experiment with the initial test hacks so you can learn your way
around them. Some are a bit outdated so make sure to advice where it
needs some fixes.

Regardless, here is some of the links that could be helpful:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Uno/Cpp/Tutorials/Introduction_to_Cpp_Uno

Make sure to check back if you face any stops in the process, or just
experience a different output. Remember including your OS/version
compiler, etc.

On 5/5/14, Alex Moore shmal.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,I'm a third year at Bucknell University and won't be able to work a
 full time position this summer due to an athletic commitment, so I was
 hoping to help out here. I have several years of coding experience with C
 and python, as well as SVN and GitHub, and will most likely have about 10
 hours per week to devote to a project.


 Please let me know if you can help me find a project, in the mean time I'll
 peruse the repo.


 Thanks,
 Alex Moore


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Re: AOO 4.1 crashes by opening database using MySQL SDBC Driver

2014-05-05 Thread Mathias Röllig

Am 05.05.2014 16:54, schrieb FR web forum:

Did you talking about native driver?
http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/aoo-my-sdbc/


Yes. Version 1.2.0 for MacOSX.


On MacOS I use AOO with the MySQL SDBC Driver. It worked fine with AOO
4.0.1. But if I try to open a database with AOO 4.1 it crashes. (Same
userprofile as for 4.0.1.)

Now I removed the extension and want to reinstall but it says: This
extension doesn't work on this computer. :-(

Will there be a new version for AOO 4.1?


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Re: Macro does not working

2014-05-05 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!

The macro stops at
prozorRACUNI = createUnoDialog(DialogLibraries.MAKROI.RACUNI)

RACUNI isn't a dialog, it's a basic modul. RacunVidi is the dialog.

Greetings, Mathias

Am 05.05.2014 15:57, schrieb Vladislav Stevanovic:

Hello,
I have problem with my calc document (AOO 4.1). After opening, when I want
to start macro with button, macro can't working. With AOO 4.0.1 is OK.
When you open calc file in this mail, automaticaly will be opened sheet 
RAČUNI. In area of Cell N5 you will see button with name NOV RAČUN (you
will see behind this cell next: click this button). So, click and
testing. I am now again using AOO.4.0.1.




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Possible broken link: from other.html

2014-05-05 Thread Eric Mommsen
Hi

I downloaded the latest OpenOffice-Version, german language for windows.
The filename is

Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_de.exe

For verification I tried the hash values MD5, sha256 and the pgp
signatures: None of them produced  the correct result. With gpg the
answer was:
FALSCHE Unterschrift von Juergen Schnmidt j...@apache.org (engl.:
bad signature of Juergen Schmidt...).

As recommended I used  the file checksum tool.
I downloaded using FF and IE in their latest versions.

Can you check, please.

Best regards
Eric

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Re: AOO 4.1 crashes by opening database using MySQL SDBC Driver

2014-05-05 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Mathias,

On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 12:24:07PM +0200, Mathias Röllig wrote:
 Hello!
 
 On MacOS I use AOO with the MySQL SDBC Driver. It worked fine with
 AOO 4.0.1. But if I try to open a database with AOO 4.1 it crashes.
 (Same userprofile as for 4.0.1.)
 
 Now I removed the extension and want to reinstall but it says: This
 extension doesn't work on this computer. :-(

See
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes#AOO4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues
For the MacOSX version only, any extensions that are written in C++
will no longer work and be marked as disabled in the AOO extensions
manager. This is because of the change of AOO from a 32-bit to a 64-bit
application on MacOSX. Please report the problem to the developer of the
extension.

The connector is no longer maintained by the AOO project, you should
report the original maintainer at the extension's site ;)

 Will there be a new version for AOO 4.1?

Yes, soon, may be by this weekend.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: AOO Post 4.1 Test Starts! Call for volunteers!

2014-05-05 Thread Maryna Martynenko
Hi Yu Zhen,

My TestLink Id : Maryna. I can test Win 8, Ubuntu 64bit.

Regards,
Maryna


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:46 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 We have released AOO 4.1 successfully on Apr 29 with voting, but we still
 have some test cases not completed during 4.1 stage, in order to check the
 post 4.1 quality status, here comes the call for volunteers on AOO post 4.1
 testing.

 If you have interest and can help over the next few weeks, on Linux Redhat
 64bit, Linux Redhat 32bit, Linux Ubuntu 64bit, Mac 10.9, Windows 7 and
 Windows 8, please send a note to the QA mailing list (
 q...@openoffice.apache.org).   If you have a Testlink account[1] send your
 ID
 as well as what platform you can help test(if you haven't a Testlink
 account, you can register one).   You should also get installation sets
 from trunk [2] and report issues in Bugzilla [3].  You may want to see
 detail instructions in Test Guidence [4].

 [1] http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/index.php
 [2] http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/
 [3] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
 [4]

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Full+Regression+Test+Guidance

 Thanks!
  --
 Regards,
 Yu Zhen



Re: AOO 4.1 crashes by opening database using MySQL SDBC Driver

2014-05-05 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello Ariel!


Now I removed the extension and want to reinstall but it says: This
extension doesn't work on this computer. :-(


See
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes#AOO4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues
For the MacOSX version only, any extensions that are written in C++
will no longer work and be marked as disabled in the AOO extensions
manager. This is because of the change of AOO from a 32-bit to a 64-bit
application on MacOSX. Please report the problem to the developer of the
extension.


Oh yes. I've read this but I doesn't think about ...



The connector is no longer maintained by the AOO project, you should
report the original maintainer at the extension's site ;)


:-)



Will there be a new version for AOO 4.1?


Yes, soon, may be by this weekend.


Thank you!

Greetings, Mathias

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Re: Possible broken link: from other.html

2014-05-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 05/05/2014 03:37 PM, schrieb Eric Mommsen:

I downloaded the latest OpenOffice-Version, german language for windows.
The filename is

Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_de.exe

For verification I tried the hash values MD5, sha256 and the pgp
signatures: None of them produced  the correct result. With gpg the
answer was:
FALSCHE Unterschrift von Juergen Schnmidtj...@apache.org (engl.:
bad signature of Juergen Schmidt...).

As recommended I used  the file checksum tool.
I downloaded using FF and IE in their latest versions.

Can you check, please.


I've download the version you've mentioned and done the verification for 
MD5 and SHA256 has values. Both were correct.


Then I verified the PGP signatures and also here it was good. I've done 
the steps with instructions from the verification webpage [1].


[1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html

Marcus

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Re: Misleading Mac message

2014-05-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 05/05/2014 10:42 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

On 01.05.2014 02:38, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 04/30/2014 01:42 PM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

A User on en-Forum has posted this:

After receiving notification of the availability of Open Office 4.1.0,
in which it was stated that the update was suitable for Mac OS X 10.3
onwards, I downloaded the relevant file … noting that it stated:
Download Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0
Click here to download (hosted by Sourceforge.net) for:
Mac OS X (10.6 or older) and English (British) | ~159 MByte |
Released: 2014-Apr-29.

However when I attempted to run the instal, a message was displayed
indicating that this could not proceed as my version of Mac OS X was
not suitable - I run OS X 10.6.8.
--

This is only entry on the thread at
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=69463


I've investigated a bit and think I've found something that is not
correct. I've fixed this now.

Is it possible to ask the user to test again? Would be great.



I checked the download page on my 'fake' (1) Mac OS X 10.6.x system. It
leads me correctly to the download of the 4.0.1 version.

(1) 'fake', because I just changed the version information from 10.9.2
to 10.6.2 on my Mac OS X 10.9.2 system


Thanks for testing.

Marcus




PS:
An output of the table could be also very helpful:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

Thanks

Marcus


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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-05-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 05/05/2014 01:29 AM, schrieb sebb:

On 4 May 2014 17:37, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:

Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-)

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

What was done:

- Grey box:

   - Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness.

+1

   - The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data.

+1

   - The information link has now a (i) icon.


Looks better, but the hover text has gone. It was useful...


I get the text What is the difference between full installation and 
language pack? when hovering the mouse over the (i) icon.

Have you done something different?


   - Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage.


I clicked on the report button.
The test page that appears needs to have some introductory text to
tell users what to do.


Yes, like I wrote right below. ;-) For the moment it's just to see that 
something is working.



 The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an
 additional text link.
 (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as
 report function.)
   - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box.
 Now it looks more clean.

- Green box:

   - All not primary important data are now in the sub-box.
 Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only.

- Links:

   - I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines.
   - In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes.
   - Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed.



I think the download links could be more descriptive (there's plenty
of room) - e.g.

Download full installation package (including language pack)
and
Download language add-on pack only


This is were I need some help *what* to write - text or button or both 
or something else ...

So, thanks for your suggestion.


As an aside, the information page about language packs could perhaps
describe how dictionaries compare with language packs. Do language
packs include any dictionaries? Or do they just include the text
strings used in the application?
I found the page quite difficult to follow.


OK, I will improve the text.


What is not yet working:

- The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0.
   It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every
   available build for every release in the past.
- The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe
   it's indeed no longer necessary?

   What do you think?


The reset button could be dropped.


OK

Thanks for your feedback.

Marcus




What are the next steps:

- Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases.
- Improve the styling of the both download links.
- Combine the both green boxes.

- And further suggestions from you.

Thanks in advance for testing. :-)

Marcus



Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


I've done some further work.

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

What is working:

- Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack.
- Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack.
- When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get
to a help text for full install vs. langpack.
- Some release data is shown like in the green box.

What is not yet working:

- The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how
it could work (likely).

- I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working.

What are the next steps:

- Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right
hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if
not needed here, etc.

In general, this should result in a clean-up.

- Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases.

After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your
further comments and suggestions.

So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment.

Thanks

Marcus



Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Thanks a lot for your input.

A few of them (delete some obviously not needed text, make the choice
order of the drop-dwn boxes irrelevant) are already committed. But the
most need more time.

Please don't expect to have this full-featured for the AOO 4.1.0
release. I need more time to do all this. Luckily the need work-free
days are coming. :-)

Marcus



Am 04/27/2014 08:19 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Hi all,

while enjoying the Easter time I made some progress about a long-term
problem:

- Downloading the offered file via the green box is fast and easy
- Downloading a different file than the offered is not

Via the big table on the other.html is now easy to maintain for us but
has no improvement for the user as it is large and complex.

Therefore I've thought of making another offer directly on the main
download webpage:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

Please don't look too 

Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

2014-05-05 Thread Carroll L. Rockwell
Hi,

 

My name is C L Rockwell commonly known as Rocky Rockwell.  I am a 71 year
old male that is very computer oriented.  My brother and I used to construct
computers (prior to Dell), test them, load them with software and sell them.
I was the software expert where my brother was the hardware guy.  We sort of
cross-trained each other in each of our skills. 

 

I retired in 1996 after 33 years with ATT.  With ATT, I was in engineering
most of my career.  The last 4 to 6 years, I was in tech support for my
division.  I helped engineers when they had a problem with their work
stations.  When we went to networked pc’s, I taught the engineers with the
software loaded on these computers.  The software was a lot like Microsoft
Office.  There were applications like MS Word, Spreadsheet and database.
The last year of my career, I was taught HTML (had 1 ½ hour training
session) and I created an Intra-office web system that allowed tracking of
major projects online.

 

After I retired is when my brother and I started our little computer
business in Tucson, Arizona.

 

I am pretty well versed in Microsoft Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Access.

 

Rocky



Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

2014-05-05 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Hi Caroll, thanks for wanting to contribute. Please download Apache
OpenOffice from http://openoffice.org and read our introductory modules on
the different areas that people can join the project, and what to do.
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html


On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Carroll L. Rockwell rockwel...@att.netwrote:

 Hi,



 My name is C L Rockwell commonly known as Rocky Rockwell.  I am a 71 year
 old male that is very computer oriented.  My brother and I used to
 construct
 computers (prior to Dell), test them, load them with software and sell
 them.
 I was the software expert where my brother was the hardware guy.  We sort
 of
 cross-trained each other in each of our skills.



 I retired in 1996 after 33 years with ATT.  With ATT, I was in
 engineering
 most of my career.  The last 4 to 6 years, I was in tech support for my
 division.  I helped engineers when they had a problem with their work
 stations.  When we went to networked pc’s, I taught the engineers with the
 software loaded on these computers.  The software was a lot like Microsoft
 Office.  There were applications like MS Word, Spreadsheet and database.
 The last year of my career, I was taught HTML (had 1 ½ hour training
 session) and I created an Intra-office web system that allowed tracking of
 major projects online.



 After I retired is when my brother and I started our little computer
 business in Tucson, Arizona.



 I am pretty well versed in Microsoft Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Access.



 Rocky




-- 
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
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Re: [CODE][DISCUSS]: new option to enable ODF 1.2 encryption AES-256

2014-05-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 for AOO 3.4 we had already discussed and later on reverted a change to
 enable the ODF Document encryption AES-256 by default.

 Some time ago I played with a new option field to allow the user to
 enable this option as new default, see [1]

 By default the office still uses the old blowfish algorithm but with
 this new option the user can enable the ODF 1.2 encryption. Well it is a
 minimal change to improve the current situation and allow the user to
 make use of what we already have.

 What does it mean in detail when we integrate this change?

 1. No change as long as this option is not enabled
 2. Option enabled and ODF 1.2 encryption is now default


Would you happen to have a link to this in the ODF 1.2 spec? I can't seem
to find this...sorry.



 2.1 New documents stored with password can't be loaded on older office
 versions
 2.2 New or existing documents stored in older versions can still be
 loaded in the new office
 2.3 Documents stored in older version (with the old algorithm) and
 loaded in the new office works as expected. Changes made in the document
 and stored with the new office still use the old algorithm and the
 document can later on opened in older office versions.

 From my pov of view there is still room for improvements but it is a
 first useful step to move forward to a more secure algorithm and give
 the user the opportunity to tweak the settings in the preferred way.

 I would like to propose to integrate this change and test it how well it
 works.

 Any opinions? Well keep in mind it is a minimal enhancement to make use
 of what we already have. There is still room for improvements ...


 Juergen


 [1] http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/encryption_aes256_odf12.png

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Re: AOO Post 4.1 Test Starts! Call for volunteers!

2014-05-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:46 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 We have released AOO 4.1 successfully on Apr 29 with voting, but we still
 have some test cases not completed during 4.1 stage, in order to check the
 post 4.1 quality status, here comes the call for volunteers on AOO post 4.1
 testing.

 If you have interest and can help over the next few weeks, on Linux Redhat
 64bit, Linux Redhat 32bit, Linux Ubuntu 64bit, Mac 10.9, Windows 7 and
 Windows 8, please send a note to the QA mailing list (
 q...@openoffice.apache.org).   If you have a Testlink account[1] send your
 ID
 as well as what platform you can help test(if you haven't a Testlink
 account, you can register one).   You should also get installation sets
 from trunk [2] and report issues in Bugzilla [3].  You may want to see
 detail instructions in Test Guidence [4].

 [1] http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/index.php
 [2] http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/
 [3] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
 [4]

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Full+Regression+Test+Guidance

 Thanks!
  --
 Regards,
 Yu Zhen


I can help with Linux-32 but I use openSUSE 11.3 currently. My testlink id
is kschenk.  II will be happy to help over the next few weeks if you  can
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Re: Broken Bugzilla link in Release Notes

2014-05-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 
orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,


 On 05.05.2014 10:47, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

 Hi,

 On 02.05.2014 00:36, Kay Schenk wrote:



 On 05/01/2014 02:37 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

 Our 4.1 release notes

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/
 AOO+4.1+Release+Notes


 contain a link to Bugzilla for a list of fixed bugs

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem;
 remaction=runnamedcmd=AOO_410_Resolved



 but the list does not work for me at the moment. If I am not logged in,
 it prompts for a login, but if I open the link while logged in I get an
 error: The search named AOO_410_Resolved does not exist.

 Can it be fixed?

 Thanks,
Andrea.

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 Try this link instead --

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem;
 remaction=runnamedcmd=AOO_410_Resolvedsharer_id=249136


 if it works, we can change it. Maybe we need the sharer_id



 At the beginning of the Release Notes in chapter General Remarks is link
 http://s.apache.org/AOO410-solved
 which resolves to
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=
 RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDlist_id=
 144896query_format=advancedtarget_milestone=4.1.0


 This one should work.

 I will replace the link in chapter Bug Fixes accordingly.


 Done.

 I also looked at the linked translated Release Notes pages and made the
 corresponding changes.

 Please check, if the link is working for you.


 Best regards, Oliver.


Everything is fine now and a new web server copy generated and posted.
Thanks.





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Re: [DOWNLOAD][PROPOSAL] How to download another version than offered in the green box?

2014-05-05 Thread sebb
On 5 May 2014 20:00, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
 Am 05/05/2014 01:29 AM, schrieb sebb:

 On 4 May 2014 17:37, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:

 Another update, seems this weekend I've my productive phase: ;-)

 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

 What was done:

 - Grey box:

- Bye, bye grey color - hello green freshness.

 +1

- The select boxes are prefilled with the browser guessed data.

 +1

- The information link has now a (i) icon.


 Looks better, but the hover text has gone. It was useful...


 I get the text What is the difference between full installation and
 language pack? when hovering the mouse over the (i) icon.
 Have you done something different?

I get hover text for the download and report links, but not for the (i).
This applies to Firefox and Opera 12.17 on WinXP, and Firefox on OS X
(Mavericks)
Chrome shows the (i) hover, but the download and report texts are
missing - I only see the (i) and the link icon.
I do see the download hovers if the mouse is moved over the blank
space to the left of the (i)
The drop-downs are correctly preset, but there is no info in the light
green box.
This is true for Chrome on WinXP and OS/X, and for Safari and Opera 20.0 on OS/X
[I think Opera 20 is based on Chrome]

IE8/WinXP is completely broken; no content in the drop-down boxes and
no download or report text.

So none of the Win/XP or OS/X browsers are fully working for me.


- Added a Report broken link - pointing to the debug webpage.


 I clicked on the report button.
 The test page that appears needs to have some introductory text to
 tell users what to do.


 Yes, like I wrote right below. ;-) For the moment it's just to see that
 something is working.


  The icon alone is maybe not meaningful enough, therefore an
  additional text link.
  (Of course the debug webpage needs further work to really work as
  report function.)
- All not primary important data are now in the sub-box.
  Now it looks more clean.

 - Green box:

- All not primary important data are now in the sub-box.
  Now it looks more clean and the focus is set for downloading only.

 - Links:

- I've moved and deleted links and also adjusted the headlines.
- In the nav bar as well as in the colored boxes.
- Of course it's just a suggestion and can be discussed/changed.


 I think the download links could be more descriptive (there's plenty
 of room) - e.g.

 Download full installation package (including language pack)
 and
 Download language add-on pack only


 This is were I need some help *what* to write - text or button or both or
 something else ...
 So, thanks for your suggestion.


 As an aside, the information page about language packs could perhaps
 describe how dictionaries compare with language packs. Do language
 packs include any dictionaries? Or do they just include the text
 strings used in the application?
 I found the page quite difficult to follow.


 OK, I will improve the text.


 What is not yet working:

 - The version drop-down-box has still no effect for others than 4.1.0.
It's a bigger effort as I've to take into account every
available build for every release in the past.
 - The [Reset] button is now not working as expected, however maybe
it's indeed no longer necessary?

What do you think?


 The reset button could be dropped.


 OK

 Thanks for your feedback.

 Marcus



 What are the next steps:

 - Make the version drop-down-box work for older releases.
 - Improve the styling of the both download links.
 - Combine the both green boxes.

 - And further suggestions from you.

 Thanks in advance for testing. :-)

 Marcus



 Am 05/03/2014 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

 I've done some further work.

 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_droplist.html

 What is working:

 - Filesizes are shown for selected full install + langpack.
 - Checksum links are shown for selected full install + langpack.
 - When choices are done a little help icon is shown. Click on it to get
 to a help text for full install vs. langpack.
 - Some release data is shown like in the green box.

 What is not yet working:

 - The version dropdown box has no effect yet but it shows already how
 it could work (likely).

 - I've not tested with all browsers. So, maybe something is not working.

 What are the next steps:

 - Reduce the additional links in the green box and re-work in the right
 hand nav bar - delete duplicates, change order/positions, delete if
 not needed here, etc.

 In general, this should result in a clean-up.

 - Make the version drop-down box work to choose from older releases.

 After that I'll publish a new update to the webpage and go on with your
 further comments and suggestions.

 So, please have a look and don't hesitate to comment.

 Thanks

 Marcus



 Am 04/29/2014 12:40 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


 Thanks a lot for your input.

 A few of them (delete some