Re: Remove CVS dates from some html files
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Tae Wong seotaewon...@gmail.com wrote: The following files have the CVS date at the end of each page. lingucomponent/auto_instal.html lingucomponent/dictionary.html lingucomponent/dictpack.html lingucomponent/download_dictionary.html lingucomponent/grammar.html lingucomponent/hyph_dic.html lingucomponent/hyphenator.html lingucomponent/index.html lingucomponent/instal_difs.html lingucomponent/instal_fonts.html lingucomponent/instal_reinstal.html lingucomponent/manual_instal.html lingucomponent/spell_dic.html lingucomponent/thes_dic.html lingucomponent/thesaurus.html native-lang/index.html These should be changed now. Thanks. -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed
Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted
On 13/01/2015 Michal Hriň wrote: And another question, do you need help with printing of small materials, shoud I ask some print company if it is possible to make it? And then send it to for example to Bruxelles by land post ? That would be fantastic. Let me recap from earlier in this thread. Stuff that we (I mean, the people who will stay at our booth) must have include: 1) Pins: we already have the design at http://www.openoffice.org/ marketing/art/galleries/logos/index.html ; diameter 1 inch, or 2,5cm. 2) OpenOffice stickers (at this point, I would make them with your current work with the 15 years addition). 3) Apache stickers and possibly other materials: these probably are already arranged by Apache and will be delivered by Jan, so let's keep them out for the time being. 4) We already have a roll-up and leaflets, with generic information (I mean, nothing special for the 15 years). Michael, Mechtilde, what about the quantity? Shall we go for about 500 pins with the plain orb and 500 stickers with the OpenOffice logo and a 15-year statement? What remains unused at FOSDEM could be used for other events. Michal, we will need an (even approximate) budget in EUR and you will be reimbursed from our fund for events. Stuff needs to be delivered in Brussels in the week 26-30 January and I can provide an address. Remember that, beyond the basics, we still can consider the extended wishlist, with a special roll-up (15 years branding) and sweatshirts. The roll-up would cost about 65 EUR if I print it in Italy and I take it to Brussels, but Michael probably knows a better provider (I remember we discussed options at some event). Sweatshirts have the size issue: only a few of us will be at FOSDEM, like at any events, and we will be too few for any significant group order (considering that we aren't all the same size), so in the end this is an individual order. Unless we print, say, a few dozens in assorted sizes and then we give them away or for a donation (to be handled somehow; don't start discussions on how to handle donations please)... but would this make sense? Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL
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Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:57 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: I have been working with Qt for many years and have in one project made a converter from something similar to our UI descriptions to a Qt environment. I have only experience as an end user of poweted QT apps to the windows platform, and I can say: avoid it like the plague. QT apps on Windows tend to become hugue, the bloat added by QT libs is considerable and plus, the QT apps ported to windows are SLOW TO LOAD. The size of all the QT libs loading before the app can even be displayed surely plays a role. Just my $0.02 FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell
Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL
On 13 Jan 2015, at 23:04, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I think the licensing situation is very clear. There are two licensing arrangements. The free license is standard GPL3/LGPL3. There is a commercial license for proprietary, closed source work. That license has to be purchased and there are flavors of it, such as Indie Mobile, Professional, Enterprise, Device Creation, Cloud Services, etc. These do not qualify as open-source licenses. Here's the fee structure along with the license flavors: http://www.qt.io/download/. - Dennis PS: I thought there was a LGPL case where you could run QT as a DLL underneath an application, but I don't see how that can work with an ASF Project for a number of reasons. I also don't see anything about that featured in the current materials (although Wikipedia points to the Digia QT LGPL Exception, which is at the bottom of this page: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/lgpl.html#digia-qt-lgpl-exception-version-1-1. Some of the gyrations may be related to how QT was spun into and out of Nokia. According to my email archives, I apparently stopped paying attention to it at the end of 2011. I may also may be thinking of a different project with regard to using a pre-built DLL and LIB. I think Dennis summarised the point well, However, some more: I had the impression that ASL 2 was compatible with (L)GPL3--but there is some salt here, and it also depends on what you want to infer by “compatible”. Where work would be done on the product using Qt licensed under LGPL or GPL is one issue, and the scope of the work is another. In this case, given the nature of the VCL, the result would probably also be licensed under Qt’s license. However, that does not mean that add-ons, plug-ins, and other such enhancements couldn’t be made using Qt and hosted off-site. And, yes, we’ve had this very discussion before, many times before, *many* times. (And also hosted extensions off-site, with varying licenses, to the annoyance of the FSF.) Originally, the issue preventing use of Qt with OOo was that it forbade free commercial application. Sun didn’t like that as it loved StarOffice. But then Sun sank, OpenOffice got Apache’d and Qt’s license changed (wonder why) and went as Dennis describes it: open and also proprietary. There are some Apache projects that do use Qt, and Qt itself does use ASL2 for some modules. But I think that replacing the longstanding VCL with the popular favourite Qt is not exactly feasible and that there are likely easier alternatives, if we want to change. Is it worth investigating again? I mean not just to reconsider Qt but also VCL. But back to Qt: hope springs eternal, and Qt remains popular, whatever its license and other flaws. I don’t just mean that the Digia exception should give us hope—though why not? Establishing useful compatibility with Apache and for Apache, as well as for users of Qt independent of Apache, would dramatically expand the tool’s usage, I’d guess. Qt’s pages are fairly good, and probably better than my interpretations. Stackoverflow is also good. See: louis -Original Message- From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 15:46 To: OOo Apache Subject: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL Something I started thinking about and ta da...it's been proposed before -- http://markmail.org/message/gjvwudqnzejlzynz In my mind, we could use some assistance in the maintenance of the toolkit for our UI instead of continuing to do it ourselves. This said, I know next to nothing about QT and from what I've seen, the licensing is pretty complicated and might not work for the ASF -- http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/licensing.html#licenses-used-in-qt Main web site -- http://qt-project.org/ Thoughts? -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL
I think the licensing situation is very clear. There are two licensing arrangements. The free license is standard GPL3/LGPL3. There is a commercial license for proprietary, closed source work. That license has to be purchased and there are flavors of it, such as Indie Mobile, Professional, Enterprise, Device Creation, Cloud Services, etc. These do not qualify as open-source licenses. Here's the fee structure along with the license flavors: http://www.qt.io/download/. - Dennis PS: I thought there was a LGPL case where you could run QT as a DLL underneath an application, but I don't see how that can work with an ASF Project for a number of reasons. I also don't see anything about that featured in the current materials (although Wikipedia points to the Digia QT LGPL Exception, which is at the bottom of this page: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/lgpl.html#digia-qt-lgpl-exception-version-1-1. Some of the gyrations may be related to how QT was spun into and out of Nokia. According to my email archives, I apparently stopped paying attention to it at the end of 2011. I may also may be thinking of a different project with regard to using a pre-built DLL and LIB. -Original Message- From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 15:46 To: OOo Apache Subject: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL Something I started thinking about and ta da...it's been proposed before -- http://markmail.org/message/gjvwudqnzejlzynz In my mind, we could use some assistance in the maintenance of the toolkit for our UI instead of continuing to do it ourselves. This said, I know next to nothing about QT and from what I've seen, the licensing is pretty complicated and might not work for the ASF -- http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/licensing.html#licenses-used-in-qt Main web site -- http://qt-project.org/ Thoughts? -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Bugs for 4.1.2
Resending since it was probably overlooked and two weeks passed. We need 4.1.2 in Bugzilla, at least in the Target field. Thanks, Andrea. On 29/12/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote: (I'm BCCing the QA list for information) So we want to release 4.1.2. The main feature will be warning-free digitally signed installers under Windows. Other bugfixes may be included as well, provided we can fix them soon, in a safe way and provided they are of some significance. As explained, translation fixes and (English) string fixes cannot be included. First someone with Bugzilla admin privileges should add 4.1.2 to the Target Milestone field in Bugzilla. I would not add a flag to request a blocker, unless someone prefers to have it too. ... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted
Kay Schenk wrote: On 01/12/2015 01:55 PM, Michal Hriň wrote: https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16266021142/ very nice! Nice, thank you Michal! Only one minor remark: in general, we prefer that the OpenOffice logo is unmodified (your version has some gulls flying over it). Your changes are very unobtrusive anyway, so we could keep them. You asked for a vector version of the logo. A vector version is here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ The PDF is OK, other versions were derived from it. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Infographic Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted
Nancy K wrote: I would like to try to build an infographic of 15-20 or so Open Office facts in Illustrator (there are some other programs that are free with prebuilt icons if anyone else wants to try this - piktochart.com, easel.ly.com and infogr.am.com). Is there a place (or do you have any) with fun or interesting facts already known that I could use? An infographic would be absolutely welcome too. Some facts are at http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/press_kit.html (the text on the left hand side is more up-to-date, the right column contains references to outdated concepts like site registration). My Year in review posts might provide some useful information too: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_in_2013_a https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_in_2014_a And if you need something else just ask. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted
V Utorok, 13. január 2015 o 10:03 +0100, Andrea Pescetti napísal(a): Kay Schenk wrote: On 01/12/2015 01:55 PM, Michal Hriň wrote: https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16266021142/ very nice! Nice, thank you Michal! Only one minor remark: in general, we prefer that the OpenOffice logo is unmodified (your version has some gulls flying over it). Your changes are very unobtrusive anyway, so we could keep them. OK. If it is acceptable I will try to create better version for print. And another question, do you need help with printing of small materials, shoud I ask some print company if it is possible to make it? And then send it to for example to Bruxelles by land post ? You asked for a vector version of the logo. A vector version is here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ The PDF is OK, other versions were derived from it. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair
Hi all, I am a PMC member and inactive here, I am very sorry. But I am very active in everyday life :) I changed my job 16 months ago. Now I am a member of Marumitsu Seimen Co., Ltd, http://marumitsu-seimen.com/ which produces and sells several kinds of noodle (wheat noodle, buckwheat noodle, ramen etc) As I am in charge of sales and marketing in the company, I go east and west, north and south, all over Japan, to sell noodles! :) I live in Ichinoseki, Iwate, northern part of Japan mainland, tomorrow I will go down to Tokyo and stay there for 2 days to sell noodles at Setagaya Boroichi, one of the biggest flea market in Japan. Just after the market I will go up slightly up to Kawaguchi, Saitama, next to Tokyo, and sell noodles at a department store for a week! I will miss my family very much :( Our Apache OpenOffice Japanese community members are few. I think in Japan there are many Apache OpenOffice users and a few developers. Maho Nakata, http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ ,you know him, and I have been trying to rebuild the community but we have failed so far. We have no idea, what and how should we do? So I expect PMC Chair(s) encourage PMC members to speak up and share ideas, how to develop local communities. I think Dual Chair (Two Chairs, or, Chair and Co-Chair, or whatever :) ) is a good idea. I would be comfortable with that! Thanks, khirano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair
Sounds a bit like the Marcons for marketing in the original OO.o project. On 13 January 2015 at 09:45, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote: On 12.01.2015 23:22, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Of course, the community could create such roles—Marketing Leads, say. Done that before, and it works fine. But I’m also keen—and I think others are, too—in keeping to a minimum bureaucratic structures. (Not because I dislike bureaucracy—I don’t, in theory, as a means of resolving differences—but because titles and roles tend to calcify, and that I don’t think anyone likes.) In the historic germanophone community we have roles called Ansprechpartner. That means a person, to whom topics can be addressed. We have Ansprechpartner (contact persons) for marketing, QA; Mac-port, website, translation etc.. So it was clear, that these persons had adopted a special responsbility, but there was no special power given to them. I think, it might be a first step, if some of the PMC members would tell, for what topic they can be a contact person. Maybe we can add this in the list of the PMC members on the website, improving transparency, like we do it for mailinglists, blog, svn, bugzilla, wiki and social media. Kind regards Michael -- Ian Ofqual Accredited Qualifications https://theingots.org/community/index.php?q=qualifications Headline points in the 2014, 2015, 2016 school league tables Baseline testing and progress measures https://theingots.org/community/Baseline_testing_info The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, Unit 4D Gagarin, Lichfield Road Industrial Estate, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 7GN. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. +44 (0)1827 305940
Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair
On 12.01.2015 23:22, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Of course, the community could create such roles—Marketing Leads, say. Done that before, and it works fine. But I’m also keen—and I think others are, too—in keeping to a minimum bureaucratic structures. (Not because I dislike bureaucracy—I don’t, in theory, as a means of resolving differences—but because titles and roles tend to calcify, and that I don’t think anyone likes.) In the historic germanophone community we have roles called Ansprechpartner. That means a person, to whom topics can be addressed. We have Ansprechpartner (contact persons) for marketing, QA; Mac-port, website, translation etc.. So it was clear, that these persons had adopted a special responsbility, but there was no special power given to them. I think, it might be a first step, if some of the PMC members would tell, for what topic they can be a contact person. Maybe we can add this in the list of the PMC members on the website, improving transparency, like we do it for mailinglists, blog, svn, bugzilla, wiki and social media. Kind regards Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted
Another draft of picture :) https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16085134929/ -MH V Utorok, 13. január 2015 o 10:03 +0100, Andrea Pescetti napísal(a): Kay Schenk wrote: On 01/12/2015 01:55 PM, Michal Hriň wrote: https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16266021142/ very nice! Nice, thank you Michal! Only one minor remark: in general, we prefer that the OpenOffice logo is unmodified (your version has some gulls flying over it). Your changes are very unobtrusive anyway, so we could keep them. You asked for a vector version of the logo. A vector version is here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ The PDF is OK, other versions were derived from it. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Infographic Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted
Some more fun facts here, from a presentation Andrew Rist and I did at ApacheCon last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAv6Iyryz3c Regards, -Rob On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Nancy K nancythirt...@yahoo.com.invalid wrote: I would like to try to build an infographic of 15-20 or so Open Office facts in Illustrator (there are some other programs that are free with prebuilt icons if anyone else wants to try this - piktochart.com, easel.ly.com and infogr.am.com). Is there a place (or do you have any) with fun or interesting facts already known that I could use? Thanks Nancy Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com. Video courses on SEO, CMS, Design and Software Courses From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Your stand proposal for Apache OpenOffice has been accepted On 01/12/2015 01:55 PM, Michal Hriň wrote: V Pondelok, 12. január 2015 o 22:18 +0100, Marcus napísal(a): Am 01/12/2015 09:06 PM, schrieb Michal Hri: I had an idea .. What do you think ? :) https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16240171406/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16265260892/ thanks for making the pictures. The English one looks better for me. May I ask for 2 improvements? The sentence with Liberating ... should be a bit lower to get more space betweeen the gulls and text. Currently it's a bit overlapping. And I would use the word Freeing instead of Liberating - except an English native-speaker. ;-) Sorry, here https://www.flickr.com/photos/101590593@N06/16266021142/ very nice! Marcus Dňa pondelok, 12. január 2015 10:50 ,jan ij...@apache.org napísal: On Monday, January 12, 2015, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: On 30/12/2014 jan i wrote: On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, RA Stehmann wrote: On 29.12.2014 22:11, Andrea Pescetti wrote: The important things are: - decide WHAT to have (pins, roll-up?, other gadgets?); we can take time in the next few days for this The roll-up is still existing, but if you want a special one for the 15 years celebrations, it has to be purchased. English flyers are existing, but if you need special ones for the 15 years celebrations, they have to be produced. We have also french and german flyers, but no dutch (and no italian or spanish ones). We have Apache feather stickers, OpenOffice.org lanyards and pins (retro design ;-) ). And we have a few Apache cup warm keepers. Sticker postcards have been running out. How about sweat shirts with our logo, the feather and some 15year marker ? OK, so wrapping this up and since no-one volunteered for design... Stuff that we must have (and that we already have the design for) include: 1) Pins: we already have the design at http://www.openoffice.org/ marketing/art/galleries/logos/index.html ; can someone suggest a provider and take care of this? 2) OpenOffice stickers: same? Or do we miss the design? I can't find anything, and probably the ones I saw still have the old logo. 3) Apache stickers and possibly other materials: These probably are already arranged by Apache and will be delivered by Jan. Nice to have include (we need someone who designs this, and they will have to be dropped unless someone volunteers quickly): 1) New roll-up with 15 years design: if a volunteers designs it, we can have it too. 2) New English leaflets with 15 years design: same 3) OpenOffice stickers if we need the design. 4) Sweatshirts: I think it's a very nice idea, again the issue is with finding a provider. With only 2 weeks to go, I see it a bit unrealistic, to make design, find a provider, agree on cost and get it delivered in time, but that is just my opinion. Budget is not an issue. It looks like the expense will be reasonable. We have funds that can cover these expenses. we should have the items produced in europe there are plenty of cheap places. Were you thinking about some website/company in particular? not anybody that can deliver overnight to a good price, to get the good prices you typically need to allow 8-10 days delivery. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds a bit like the Marcons for marketing in the original OO.o project. Right. But I hope it is clear to everyone that the main difference between OOo and AOO is not the lack of titles. The main difference is the lack of a large number full-time, professional developers and QA from Sun. Adding or subtracting titles, or swapping them around, does not change that. Adopting the Apache License or the MPL does not change that. Having a PMC or an Advisory Board does not change that.This is not to say that the PMC Chair is not an important role. It is. But it does not change the basic facts on the ground. So let's get this election over with and get on to dealing with the critical tasks ahead. Regards, -Rob On 13 January 2015 at 09:45, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote: On 12.01.2015 23:22, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Of course, the community could create such roles—Marketing Leads, say. Done that before, and it works fine. But I’m also keen—and I think others are, too—in keeping to a minimum bureaucratic structures. (Not because I dislike bureaucracy—I don’t, in theory, as a means of resolving differences—but because titles and roles tend to calcify, and that I don’t think anyone likes.) In the historic germanophone community we have roles called Ansprechpartner. That means a person, to whom topics can be addressed. We have Ansprechpartner (contact persons) for marketing, QA; Mac-port, website, translation etc.. So it was clear, that these persons had adopted a special responsbility, but there was no special power given to them. I think, it might be a first step, if some of the PMC members would tell, for what topic they can be a contact person. Maybe we can add this in the list of the PMC members on the website, improving transparency, like we do it for mailinglists, blog, svn, bugzilla, wiki and social media. Kind regards Michael -- Ian Ofqual Accredited Qualifications https://theingots.org/community/index.php?q=qualifications Headline points in the 2014, 2015, 2016 school league tables Baseline testing and progress measures https://theingots.org/community/Baseline_testing_info The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, Unit 4D Gagarin, Lichfield Road Industrial Estate, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 7GN. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. +44 (0)1827 305940 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair
2015-01-13 17:44 GMT+01:00 Rob Weir r...@robweir.com: On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds a bit like the Marcons for marketing in the original OO.o project. Right. But I hope it is clear to everyone that the main difference between OOo and AOO is not the lack of titles. The main difference is the lack of a large number full-time, professional developers and QA from Sun. Adding or subtracting titles, or swapping them around, does not change that. Adopting the Apache License or the MPL does not change that. Having a PMC or an Advisory Board does not change that.This is not to say that the PMC Chair is not an important role. It is. But it does not change the basic facts on the ground. Agree 100%. So let's get this election over with and get on to dealing with the critical tasks ahead. Yea, let's vote and move on to get a signed win release and more. I mention that not only because it's a pragmatic thing, actually it's a missing piece that would help to avoid false positive issues like those we experienced with Chrome users some time ago. Roberto Regards, -Rob On 13 January 2015 at 09:45, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote: On 12.01.2015 23:22, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Of course, the community could create such roles—Marketing Leads, say. Done that before, and it works fine. But I’m also keen—and I think others are, too—in keeping to a minimum bureaucratic structures. (Not because I dislike bureaucracy—I don’t, in theory, as a means of resolving differences—but because titles and roles tend to calcify, and that I don’t think anyone likes.) In the historic germanophone community we have roles called Ansprechpartner. That means a person, to whom topics can be addressed. We have Ansprechpartner (contact persons) for marketing, QA; Mac-port, website, translation etc.. So it was clear, that these persons had adopted a special responsbility, but there was no special power given to them. I think, it might be a first step, if some of the PMC members would tell, for what topic they can be a contact person. Maybe we can add this in the list of the PMC members on the website, improving transparency, like we do it for mailinglists, blog, svn, bugzilla, wiki and social media. Kind regards Michael -- Ian Ofqual Accredited Qualifications https://theingots.org/community/index.php?q=qualifications Headline points in the 2014, 2015, 2016 school league tables Baseline testing and progress measures https://theingots.org/community/Baseline_testing_info The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, Unit 4D Gagarin, Lichfield Road Industrial Estate, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 7GN. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. +44 (0)1827 305940 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Easy Hacks
Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: what do we have for OpenOffice? It's at http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html, section Finding Easy Tasks. We have two predefined queries (you find the links there) for Easy and Simple tasks. We encourage new developers to check with the list before starting their work, since the queries use values from Bugzilla that may not always be up-to-date (I mean: Easy tasks may include issues that are not that easy or that still need some discussion). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Easy Hacks
Thanks, Andrea… On 13 Jan 2015, at 17:34, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: what do we have for OpenOffice? It's at http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html, section Finding Easy Tasks. We have two predefined queries (you find the links there) for Easy and Simple tasks. We encourage new developers to check with the list before starting their work, since the queries use values from Bugzilla that may not always be up-to-date (I mean: Easy tasks may include issues that are not that easy or that still need some discussion). Of course—contributing is usually a discursive process. But thanks for the link. I’ll pass this on to the list. It would be kind of interesting (and also cool) to test out some of the easy hacks on more or less unsophisticated students or other (captive, I guess) audiences. Just for fun. :-) Regards, Andrea. Cheers, Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: issue 60552: embedding live web-pages (floating frame?) into impress slides
Alex, On 13 Jan 2015, at 17:03, Alexander Di Marco a...@cs.toronto.edu wrote: See Below Hi Rob I noticed this has not been worked on since 2013. Out of curiosity, what would be required (from a development standpoint) to implement this. Thanks Alex It’s always a pleasure to see someone from Toronto—and even more so that you work out of the Bahen Centre of UoT, quite close to where I am, in Yorkville. This is a public list, so I tend to be shy about posting my contact information, but I’d be happy to be meet up with you and talk about OpenOffice, if you have the time. Cheers, Louis Alex DiMarco www.cdf.toronto.edu Bahen Centre 40 St. George Street, Room 3224 Toronto, Ontario M5S 2E4 office: 416-946-8862 cell: 416-459-0447 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Remove CVS dates from some html files
The following files have the CVS date at the end of each page. lingucomponent/auto_instal.html lingucomponent/dictionary.html lingucomponent/dictpack.html lingucomponent/download_dictionary.html lingucomponent/grammar.html lingucomponent/hyph_dic.html lingucomponent/hyphenator.html lingucomponent/index.html lingucomponent/instal_difs.html lingucomponent/instal_fonts.html lingucomponent/instal_reinstal.html lingucomponent/manual_instal.html lingucomponent/spell_dic.html lingucomponent/thes_dic.html lingucomponent/thesaurus.html native-lang/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Fwd: issue 60552: embedding live web-pages (floating frame?) into impress slides
See Below Hi Rob I noticed this has not been worked on since 2013. Out of curiosity, what would be required (from a development standpoint) to implement this. Thanks Alex Alex DiMarco www.cdf.toronto.edu Bahen Centre 40 St. George Street, Room 3224 Toronto, Ontario M5S 2E4 office: 416-946-8862 cell: 416-459-0447
Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair
On 13/01/2015 RA Stehmann wrote: I think, it might be a first step, if some of the PMC members would tell, for what topic they can be a contact person. I believe you understood quite well the spirit of this discussion. Nobody cares about the titles here, it is assumption of responsibility. And ALL (not just some!) PMC members must, in my opinion at least, be ready to change into doers, as Kay calls it. It doesn't matter if one only has a couple hours per week, it is crucial to the project that we are reliable and that we are ready to make our part (considering the many different skills of course). This is the only way to grow the project. I'll keep this open for further comments about 24 hours, then I think it will be time for me to call the vote. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Easy Hacks
There’s a discussion on a FOSS list, initiated (this time) by Stefano Z. of Debian, about compiling a cross-project list of “easy hacks”. What’s easy is in the eye of the beholder, to be sure, but also in the gaze of the community. We’ve periodically come up with some things that inexperienced members can try doing—and these need not be coding hacks. Some projects—probably the majority—start their new members off by encouraging them (or mandating) to do work on bus, outstanding issues, etc. But even for these, there are levels of difficulty. The compilation could be located any number of places, even at OpenHatch.org. Stefano started off the discussion with a short list (see below) and more has been added to it. But what do we have for OpenOffice? (You’ll not that Stefano includes LibreOffice.) Best Louis - Debian's newcomer bugs: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=newcomer - Django's easy tickets https://code.djangoproject.com/query?status=!closedeasy=1 - Fedora's easy fix http://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/ - GNOME's gnome-love bugs: https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeLove/FindingTasks - LibreOffice's easy hacks: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks - Mediawiki's annoying little bugs http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs - Mozilla's BugsAhoy https://wiki.mozilla.org/BugsAhoy - OpenStack's low hanging fruits: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack/+bugs?orderby=-importancesearch=Searchfield.status:list=NEWfield.status:list=CONFIRMEDfield.status:list=TRIAGEDfield.tag=low-hanging-fruit - Python's easy issues http://bugs.python.org/issue?status=1@sort=-activity@columns=id,activity,title,creator,status@dispname=Easy%20issues@startwith=0@group=prioritykeywords=6@action=search@filter=@pagesize=50 - Ubuntu's bitesize bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize - VLC's easy bugs https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/query?status=newstatus=assignedstatus=reopeneddifficulty=easyorder=priority` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair
Am 01/13/2015 12:23 PM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: I am a PMC member and inactive here, I am very sorry. great to see (read) you back here again. :-) Our Apache OpenOffice Japanese community members are few. I think in Japan there are many Apache OpenOffice users and a few developers. Maho Nakata, http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ ,you know him, and I have been trying to rebuild the community but we have failed so far. We have no idea, what and how should we do? OpenOffice is a large software within a large project as well. So, it can help to start with small things to see if this works. If so, then grow up with bigger things. Just 2 ideas: If you are just a few and maybe not that far away from each other, then it should be possible to do a meeting in person - face-to-face. Here you can talk about the problems and possible solutions that are special for your (Japan) local area. And then try it. After that (or in addition) also doing this in the shape of a little conference, fair, seminar, workshop, etc. to try to meet with as many OpenOffice fans as possible could be helpful. So I expect PMC Chair(s) encourage PMC members to speak up and share ideas, how to develop local communities. Don't wait for the (old|new) chair to take action. ;-) Start now yourself with stating your problems and attempts you have already done. Then we can reply to this. I think Dual Chair (Two Chairs, or, Chair and Co-Chair, or whatever :) ) is a good idea. I would be comfortable with that! Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair
On 13 Jan 2015, at 18:15, Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Don't wait for the (old|new) chair to take action. ;-) Start now yourself with stating your problems and attempts you have already done. Then we can reply to this. Yes! louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair
Hi Andrea asked me to wait until the discussions was ending before making a final decision, but now its time to decide. I accepted to run for chair and thereby rejoin the PMC, because I was told that the PMC had changed behavior..the discussions have made me sure that my ways of getting things done will cause the same conflicts that made me resign. I point at Louis as our new chair. I decline my nomination for personal reasons and are not voteable. I thank people who believed in me and wish the PMC good luck. rgds jan i -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL
On Wednesday, January 14, 2015, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Something I started thinking about and ta da...it's been proposed before -- http://markmail.org/message/gjvwudqnzejlzynz In my mind, we could use some assistance in the maintenance of the toolkit for our UI instead of continuing to do it ourselves. This said, I know next to nothing about QT and from what I've seen, the licensing is pretty complicated and might not work for the ASF -- I have been working with Qt for many years and have in one project made a converter from something similar to our UI descriptions to a Qt environment. I can only recommend such a step. As a side remark, translations will become a factor easier, because the are stored in their own fileset, meaning we only need to compile once for all languages. rgds jan i http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/licensing.html#licenses-used-in-qt Main web site -- http://qt-project.org/ Thoughts? -- - MzK There's a bit of magic in everything, and some loss to even things out. -- Lou Reed - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org javascript:; -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
