Re: technical question

[toki]

On 03/08/2018 05:29 PM, Leilani M. Pugh wrote:
> This is not a technical "how to" question.  This is something I would like
> to see added somehow, because you can't drag the top & bottom independently

AOo currently offers that functionality.

jonathon

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Re: Status on 4.2.0?

[Marcus]

Am 08.03.2018 um 22:58 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

On Thu, 8 Mar 2018 22:53:04 +0100
Marcus  wrote:


Am 06.03.2018 um 18:11 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

Is it time to start thinking of an 'official' beta release for 4.2.0? We
won't get much traction and feedback on the codebase until we
get more people using and testing it, which is one goal of a
beta in any case.


Will the gstreamer-1.0 updates be in 4.2.0?  It would be good if they were, as 
Impress at present is nearly not worth having for any presentation other than 
text screens.


IMHO we haven't seen a call for feature freeze. Therefore it's still 
possible to add this.


However, at the end it depends on the release manager what to add in 
this phase.


Marcus


right.

However, for me "Beta" sounds like from the 1990s. Maybe we can find
another term and try to be a bit more modern with "Preview Release",
"Early Access" or something else.

What do you mean?

Sorry for not being more helpful at the moment. But this was the first
thing I stumbled upon when thinking about a beta release. ;-)


Having never done a Beta for AOO I'm not sure of the process,
but assuming it is similar to RM for the RCs, I'm game to help
push this along.


Here at Apache I don't remember that we had done a beta release. So, the
last one is much longer ago. I think let's define and do the process
like we need it.

Marcus




On Mar 1, 2018, at 1:38 AM, Peter kovacs  wrote:

Hello all,

What is the current status on 4.2.0?
I have seen one bug that fires when opening a document. We got more?

All the best
Pete



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Re: Status on 4.2.0?

[Marcus]

Am 09.03.2018 um 00:16 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 08/03/2018 Marcus wrote:
However, for me "Beta" sounds like from the 1990s. Maybe we can find 
another term and try to be a bit more modern with "Preview Release", 
"Early Access" or something else.


I'm not much interested in how outdated the name "Beta" looks, but it 
looks wrong. Technically, this would be more an Alpha than a Beta as 
features are still unstable and actively developed. For example, 
translations have not landed yet and they would be expected to be in a 
Beta.


when I think of signing it is indeed far away from feature complete. So, 
it indeed won't be in the phase of a beta but 1-2 stage before.



Here at Apache I don't remember that we had done a beta release.


We made a beta release for 4.1: 
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/seeking_beta_testers_for_apache


Ah, OK

Marcus


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Re: Status on 4.2.0?

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 08/03/2018 Marcus wrote:
However, for me "Beta" sounds like from the 1990s. Maybe we can find 
another term and try to be a bit more modern with "Preview Release", 
"Early Access" or something else.


I'm not much interested in how outdated the name "Beta" looks, but it 
looks wrong. Technically, this would be more an Alpha than a Beta as 
features are still unstable and actively developed. For example, 
translations have not landed yet and they would be expected to be in a Beta.



Here at Apache I don't remember that we had done a beta release.


We made a beta release for 4.1: 
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/seeking_beta_testers_for_apache


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Status on 4.2.0?

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Thu, 8 Mar 2018 22:53:04 +0100
Marcus  wrote:

> Am 06.03.2018 um 18:11 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > Is it time to start thinking of an 'official' beta release for 4.2.0? We
> > won't get much traction and feedback on the codebase until we
> > get more people using and testing it, which is one goal of a
> > beta in any case.

Will the gstreamer-1.0 updates be in 4.2.0?  It would be good if they were, as 
Impress at present is nearly not worth having for any presentation other than 
text screens.

Rory

> 
> right.
> 
> However, for me "Beta" sounds like from the 1990s. Maybe we can find 
> another term and try to be a bit more modern with "Preview Release", 
> "Early Access" or something else.
> 
> What do you mean?
> 
> Sorry for not being more helpful at the moment. But this was the first 
> thing I stumbled upon when thinking about a beta release. ;-)
> 
> > Having never done a Beta for AOO I'm not sure of the process,
> > but assuming it is similar to RM for the RCs, I'm game to help
> > push this along.
> 
> Here at Apache I don't remember that we had done a beta release. So, the 
> last one is much longer ago. I think let's define and do the process 
> like we need it.
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> >> On Mar 1, 2018, at 1:38 AM, Peter kovacs  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> What is the current status on 4.2.0?
> >> I have seen one bug that fires when opening a document. We got more?
> >>
> >> All the best
> >> Pete
> 
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Re: Status on 4.2.0?

[Marcus]

Am 06.03.2018 um 18:11 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

Is it time to start thinking of an 'official' beta release for 4.2.0? We
won't get much traction and feedback on the codebase until we
get more people using and testing it, which is one goal of a
beta in any case.


right.

However, for me "Beta" sounds like from the 1990s. Maybe we can find 
another term and try to be a bit more modern with "Preview Release", 
"Early Access" or something else.


What do you mean?

Sorry for not being more helpful at the moment. But this was the first 
thing I stumbled upon when thinking about a beta release. ;-)



Having never done a Beta for AOO I'm not sure of the process,
but assuming it is similar to RM for the RCs, I'm game to help
push this along.


Here at Apache I don't remember that we had done a beta release. So, the 
last one is much longer ago. I think let's define and do the process 
like we need it.


Marcus




On Mar 1, 2018, at 1:38 AM, Peter kovacs  wrote:

Hello all,

What is the current status on 4.2.0?
I have seen one bug that fires when opening a document. We got more?

All the best
Pete



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Re: Status on 4.2.0?

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 3/6/2018 12:11 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Is it time to start thinking of an 'official' beta release for 4.2.0? We
> won't get much traction and feedback on the codebase until we
> get more people using and testing it, which is one goal of a
> beta in any case.
> 
> Having never done a Beta for AOO I'm not sure of the process,
> but assuming it is similar to RM for the RCs, I'm game to help
> push this along.


I believe that is is well past time to be doing a beta of 4.2. It is
also far past time to be having the conversation of what the next
release will be which includes what we call it who the release manager
will be, etc.

Ideally a public beta should be part of the overall release plan. The
process shouldn't be that much different from what we used for the RC's.

Regards
Keith




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RE: technical question

[Leilani M. Pugh]

This is not a technical "how to" question.  This is something I would like
to see added somehow, because you can't drag the top & bottom independently
of each other.  I already know how to drag them.  Again, what they don't
have is  the ability for the top & bottom independently. I hope this helps
to clarify what my issue was & is.  If someone would care to speak w/me or
maybe I can show what I'm talking about that would be great.  If you like,
maybe I could send a video?

Leilani Pugh
304-258-7935

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From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 5:18 PM
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Subject: Re: technical question

Am 05.03.2018 um 22:07 schrieb Leilani M. Pugh:
> *I had no idea where to send this "problem" to nor was I sure how to 
> search for it.  I am a heavy user of AOO Writer & my question is 
> regarding formatting or more specifically indenting.  I am going to 
> take a picture & try to show you what my question is…*
> 
> *In this situation, I would like to be able to adjust the top & bottom 
> independently of each other but I can't.  I can adjust the top portion 
> of the margin but when I try to move the bottom for the indent, it 
> moves both together.*
> 
> *I hope you were able to understand what I'm trying to do.  Thank you 
> so much for your time & consideration….*

because you have a typical "Howto" question, your request is better suited
in the user forums [1] or the users mailing list [2].

The developer mailing list is not the right place for such case of problems.

[1] https://forum.openoffice.org/
[2]
https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-list-public

Thanks for your understanding.

Marcus


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Re: patch to move $CCNUMVER from dmake to configure

[Damjan Jovanovic]

Hi Don

Please commit this patch ASAP.

I think you're waited enough for Mac testers, and it's now holding up other
changes I want to make.

I can even commit it for you.

Thank you
Damjan


On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 9:17 AM, Don Lewis  wrote:

> On 16 Jan, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 01/11/2018 11:24 PM, Don Lewis wrote:
> >> The patch below moves the calculation of $CCNUMVER and some other
> >> variables from main/solenv/inc/tg_compv.mk, where it is only usable by
> >> dmake, to configure, where it can be used by both dmake and gbuild. This
> >> is a requirement for me upstream some compiler bug workaround patches
> >> from the FreeBSD port.
> >>
> >> A bit of logic from set_soenv is also moved into configure.  A bunch
> >> more should probably be moved so that the configuration logic is not
> >> spread across so many different places, but that can wait.  Something
> >> else to consider is that it would be nice to use a different value of
> >> $COM for Apple's clang, maybe "ACLANG" or "APPLECLANG" since it  has a
> >> different version numbering scheme that the open-source version of clang
> >> and having a unique identifier would simplify version checking when
> >> applying compiler bug workarounds.
> >>
> >> I've tested this patch on Windows, CentOS 6, and FreeBSD.  It really
> >> needs some testing on Mac and OS/2.
> >>
> >> If you have an existing, populated build tree, then the most important
> >> tests can be done without even doing a build.  Start off by copying the
> >> *env.set.sh script and solver/420/*/inc/comp_ver.mk to a safe location.
> >> Next apply the patch below, run autoconf, and then run configure.
> >> Compare the values of $COMNAME, $COMID, $CCNUMVER, and $CCVER from the
> >> new *.env.set.sh with the values of those variables from the saved copy
> >> of comp_ver.mk.  Also compare the values of $COM in the new and saved
> >> versions of *.env.set.sh.
> >>
> >> Note: I think the old value of $CCNUMVER on the Mac is wrong.  It should
> >> look something like 00080001 or 00070003, depending on the
> >> installed version.
> >>
> >> Note that I changed -DCPPU_ENV on the Mac from $(COMID) to $(COMNAME)
> >> for consistency with the dmake side.  It shouldn't make a difference in
> >> practice since both have the same value on the Mac.
> >>
> >> If things look good, then please try a build with this patch.
> >
> > I'm having problems applying these patches. :(
> > Can you add a new issue and attach all this as a text file.
>
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127664
>
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