Re: Proposed change for download page

2021-01-04 Thread Marcus

Am 03.01.21 um 21:28 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 21:24:06 +0100
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

Am 03.01.21 um 20:07 schrieb Marcus:


I've added a bit more magic:

https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/download/index.html

Now we can show a different text when Windows, Mac or Linux install
files are selected. It's a short title with more text as mouse-over.

For Linux it's known. However, for Windows and Mac we need the info we
want to show the users.

Suggestions?


Thanks! That looks good!

For Windows I would suggest as title:

Additional notes for Windows!

Text:

At the moment we only offer a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows.
However, this version installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit (x86-64).
Please note that you may need JAVA in 32-bit for additional functionality.


Add: which must then be selected (one time only) in /Tools /Options /OpenOffice 
/Java


Maybe the wording can be enhanced...


with some ideas and line breaks from me I've the following for the 
moment (only locally, not yet on staging):


Title:
"OpenOffice and Java - What to do?"

Text:
"At the moment there is a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows. However, 
this installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit (x86-64).
Please note that you may need Java in 32-bit for additional 
functionality which must then be selected once only (see menu 'Tools - 
Options - OpenOffice - Java').


For more information about OpenOffice and Java please see the link on 
the right 'Java and Apache OpenOffice' 
(https://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html)."


Thanks

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Re: Proposed change for download page

2021-01-04 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:35:07 +0100
Marcus  wrote:

> Am 03.01.21 um 21:28 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 21:24:06 +0100
> > Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> >> Am 03.01.21 um 20:07 schrieb Marcus:
> >>>
> >>> I've added a bit more magic:
> >>>
> >>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/download/index.html
> >>>
> >>> Now we can show a different text when Windows, Mac or Linux install
> >>> files are selected. It's a short title with more text as mouse-over.
> >>>
> >>> For Linux it's known. However, for Windows and Mac we need the info we
> >>> want to show the users.
> >>>
> >>> Suggestions?
> >>
> >> Thanks! That looks good!
> >>
> >> For Windows I would suggest as title:
> >>
> >> Additional notes for Windows!
> >>
> >> Text:
> >>
> >> At the moment we only offer a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows.
> >> However, this version installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit (x86-64).
> >> Please note that you may need JAVA in 32-bit for additional functionality.
> > 
> > Add: which must then be selected (one time only) in /Tools /Options 
> > /OpenOffice /Java
> > 
> >> Maybe the wording can be enhanced...
> 
> with some ideas and line breaks from me I've the following for the 
> moment (only locally, not yet on staging):
> 
> Title:
> "OpenOffice and Java - What to do?"
> 
> Text:
> "At the moment there is a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows. However, 
> this installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit (x86-64).
> Please note that you may need Java in 32-bit for additional 
> functionality which must then be selected once only (see menu 'Tools - 
> Options - OpenOffice - Java').
> 
> For more information about OpenOffice and Java please see the link on 
> the right 'Java and Apache OpenOffice' 
> (https://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html)."

Excellent! (if anyone reads it!  Nobody sees to look for or read instructions 
in the modern world.)


Rory


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Re: Linux virtual machines for release builds

2021-01-04 Thread Arrigo Marchiori
Hello all,

first of all, thank you to Mechtilde, Carl, and Jim.

On Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 11:34:59AM -0500, Carl Marcum wrote:

> Hi Arrigo,
> 
> On 1/2/21 9:12 AM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> > Dear All,
> > 
> > the wiki page "Step by step building guides for different platforms"
> > [1] mentions:
> > 
> >   - CentOS 5 for AOO 4.1.x
> > and lists the commands to prepare a x86_64 VM;
> > 
> >   - CentOS 7 for AOO 4.2.x
> > but it also states that "the community builds of AOO 4.2.x and
> > later are built on Fedora19" [2].
> > 
> >   - That Ubuntu 18.04 and Debian 9 will be the choice for AOO 4.2 [3].
> > 
> > Can someone please help me understand:
> > 
> >   1- do we build both AOO 4.1.x 64bit and 32bit releases on a x86_64
> >  VM? Or do we use a 32bit VM for 32bit builds?
> > 
> >   2- on what distro do we actually build AOO 4.2.x on? (both 32bit and
> >  64 bit)?
> > 
> >   3- is there a fixed short sequence of commands to prepare the VM for
> >  AOO 4.2.x, such as provided for the CentOS 5 VM [4]?
> In this earlier thread [1] I had documented my notes from setups of VM's for
> building 4.2 on CentOS 7 and Ubuntu 18. There maybe some other answers in
> there as well.

Thank you! That thread is very interesting.

I am trying to re-organize the page to make the official release
builders clear, and hopefully leaving the appropriate space for
further contributions.

Link for a quicker click:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step

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Re: Proposed change for download page

2021-01-04 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Marcus,

Am 04.01.21 um 12:35 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 03.01.21 um 21:28 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>> On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 21:24:06 +0100
>> Matthias Seidel  wrote:
>>> Am 03.01.21 um 20:07 schrieb Marcus:

 I've added a bit more magic:

 https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/download/index.html

 Now we can show a different text when Windows, Mac or Linux install
 files are selected. It's a short title with more text as mouse-over.

 For Linux it's known. However, for Windows and Mac we need the info we
 want to show the users.

 Suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks! That looks good!
>>>
>>> For Windows I would suggest as title:
>>>
>>> Additional notes for Windows!
>>>
>>> Text:
>>>
>>> At the moment we only offer a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows.
>>> However, this version installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit
>>> (x86-64).
>>> Please note that you may need JAVA in 32-bit for additional
>>> functionality.
>>
>> Add: which must then be selected (one time only) in /Tools /Options
>> /OpenOffice /Java
>>
>>> Maybe the wording can be enhanced...
>
> with some ideas and line breaks from me I've the following for the
> moment (only locally, not yet on staging):
>
> Title:
> "OpenOffice and Java - What to do?"
>
> Text:
> "At the moment there is a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows. However,
> this installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit (x86-64).
> Please note that you may need Java in 32-bit for additional
> functionality which must then be selected once only (see menu 'Tools -
> Options - OpenOffice - Java').
>
> For more information about OpenOffice and Java please see the link on
> the right 'Java and Apache OpenOffice'
> (https://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html)."

Looks good, but *if* the URL is not clickable, I would leave it out...

Regards,

   Matthias

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>
> Marcus
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Re: Linux virtual machines for release builds

2021-01-04 Thread Arrigo Marchiori
Hello all,

On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 04:03:35PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> first of all, thank you to Mechtilde, Carl, and Jim.
> 
[...]
> 
> I am trying to re-organize the page to make the official release
> builders clear, and hopefully leaving the appropriate space for
> further contributions.
> 
> Link for a quicker click:
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step

I am done with the re-organization.  If there are no heavy criticism
against the current structure, we could add other distributions as
sub-chapters. Ubuntu 16.04 is already there as a draft.

I am open to criticism and/or suggestions on what else to add.

As I am (also) an openSUSE user, I would add a chapter about it, but
the sources will not compile under x86_64 until PR #111 [1] is merged.
Can I just merge it and go ahead? ;-)

Best regards.

References:

1: https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/111
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Re: Proposed change for download page

2021-01-04 Thread Czesław Wolański
Hi Matthias,

Just my 2¢

I have reread the post "Zusammenarbeit Programme von Apache OO-Base und 
Java-JRE"

http://de.openoffice.info/viewtopic.php?p=293070#p293070

A user was surprised to find out that (1) AOO hadn't not been installed in 
64-bit folder and (2) that there is no easily accessible information on 
32-bit/64-bit version.

Earlier in this thread you wrote: "And after the change I expect users to ask, 
why they can't find a version for their 64-bit Windows."

That makes me wonder if the title for Windows i.e. "OpenOffice and Java - What 
to do?"
will give a clue to issues (1) & (2) above.

Next question:
is the position and colour of the title adequate?
Will an ordinary user ever spot it? Perhaps the colour could be a bit more 
discernible
and the title be placed to the right of the "Download language pack" button?

And slightly off-topic:

Using the search term "openoffice 32 bit" I landed on page "Apache OpenOffice 
for Windows" (not up to date, plus one typo).

https://www.openoffice.org/product/windows.html

There is a passage:
"Please note: Apache OpenOffice is distributed as a 32-bit application. It will 
run successfully in 32-bit
mode on 64-bit versions of Windows 7 and Windows 8. But in those cases a 32-bit 
JVM is required for some functionality. Details are here."


Regards,
Czesław

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Copyright updates

2021-01-04 Thread Jim Jagielski
Just a reminder that as we update files within the AOO
repo, we should also take the opportunity to update the
copyright dates on said files to 2021... There is no need
to wholesale update the copyright on *all* files in
bulk, just as we modify them...

Cheers, and Happy 2021!

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Re: Proposed change for download page

2021-01-04 Thread Marcus

Am 04.01.21 um 16:13 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Marcus,

Am 04.01.21 um 12:35 schrieb Marcus:

Am 03.01.21 um 21:28 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 21:24:06 +0100
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

Am 03.01.21 um 20:07 schrieb Marcus:


I've added a bit more magic:

https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/download/index.html

Now we can show a different text when Windows, Mac or Linux install
files are selected. It's a short title with more text as mouse-over.

For Linux it's known. However, for Windows and Mac we need the info we
want to show the users.

Suggestions?


Thanks! That looks good!

For Windows I would suggest as title:

Additional notes for Windows!

Text:

At the moment we only offer a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows.
However, this version installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit
(x86-64).
Please note that you may need JAVA in 32-bit for additional
functionality.


Add: which must then be selected (one time only) in /Tools /Options
/OpenOffice /Java


Maybe the wording can be enhanced...


with some ideas and line breaks from me I've the following for the
moment (only locally, not yet on staging):

Title:
"OpenOffice and Java - What to do?"

Text:
"At the moment there is a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows. However,
this installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit (x86-64).
Please note that you may need Java in 32-bit for additional
functionality which must then be selected once only (see menu 'Tools -
Options - OpenOffice - Java').

For more information about OpenOffice and Java please see the link on
the right 'Java and Apache OpenOffice'
(https://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html)."


Looks good, but *if* the URL is not clickable, I would leave it out...


yes, it's in the mouse-over. So, I'll leave the link out.

Marcus


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Re: Linux virtual machines for release builds

2021-01-04 Thread Marcus

Am 04.01.21 um 16:27 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:

On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 04:03:35PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:


first of all, thank you to Mechtilde, Carl, and Jim.


[...]


I am trying to re-organize the page to make the official release
builders clear, and hopefully leaving the appropriate space for
further contributions.

Link for a quicker click:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step


I am done with the re-organization.  If there are no heavy criticism
against the current structure, we could add other distributions as
sub-chapters. Ubuntu 16.04 is already there as a draft.


yes please, otherwise the page will be longer and longer and ... ;-)


I am open to criticism and/or suggestions on what else to add.


Is it possible to start with a general page? Then it can introduce the 
build system a bit and the instructions for every distribution has its 
own sub-page.


I think this would give a better structure to the whole.

Marcus


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Re: Proposed change for download page

2021-01-04 Thread Marcus

Am 04.01.21 um 17:05 schrieb CzesXXaw WolaXXski:

Just my 2¢

I have reread the post "Zusammenarbeit Programme von Apache OO-Base und 
Java-JRE"

http://de.openoffice.info/viewtopic.php?p=293070#p293070

A user was surprised to find out that (1) AOO hadn't not been installed in 
64-bit folder and (2) that there is no easily accessible information on 
32-bit/64-bit version.

Earlier in this thread you wrote: "And after the change I expect users to ask, why 
they can't find a version for their 64-bit Windows."

That makes me wonder if the title for Windows i.e. "OpenOffice and Java - What to 
do?"
will give a clue to issues (1) & (2) above.


likely not as the Java topic is a consequence of the 32/64-bit question.
Maybe this title is better:

"32-bit, 64-bit and Java - What to choose?"

I've now put the new strings on staging:
https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/download/index.html


Next question:
is the position and colour of the title adequate?
Will an ordinary user ever spot it? Perhaps the colour could be a bit more 
discernible
and the title be placed to the right of the "Download language pack" button?


The optical presentation can be changed and for sure enhanced.

But we will never know if the users are seeing this and find it helpful 
until we ask them - which is a bit difficult. ;-)



And slightly off-topic:

Using the search term "openoffice 32 bit" I landed on page "Apache OpenOffice for 
Windows" (not up to date, plus one typo).

https://www.openoffice.org/product/windows.html

There is a passage:
"Please note: Apache OpenOffice is distributed as a 32-bit application. It will 
run successfully in 32-bit
mode on 64-bit versions of Windows 7 and Windows 8. But in those cases a 32-bit JVM 
is required for some functionality. Details are here."


I've updated the page a bit but don't know if I hit the typo you have 
seen. Please have a look:

https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/product/windows.html

Marcus


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Re: Proposed change for download page

2021-01-04 Thread Czesław Wolański


Hi Marcus,

> I've updated the page a bit but don't know if I hit the typo you have 
> seen. Please have a look:
> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/product/windows.html

Thanks for updating the page and fixing the typo.

Regards,
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Re: Proposed change for download page

2021-01-04 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Marcus,

I think that the new link would look better if were directly below the buttons 
and not to the right.

One reason is that on my window the link is too wide and “choose?” Is wrapped 
to below the buttons anyway.

Regards,
Dave

> On Jan 4, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 04.01.21 um 16:13 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Hi Marcus,
>> Am 04.01.21 um 12:35 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 03.01.21 um 21:28 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
 On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 21:24:06 +0100
 Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> Am 03.01.21 um 20:07 schrieb Marcus:
>> 
>> I've added a bit more magic:
>> 
>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/download/index.html
>> 
>> Now we can show a different text when Windows, Mac or Linux install
>> files are selected. It's a short title with more text as mouse-over.
>> 
>> For Linux it's known. However, for Windows and Mac we need the info we
>> want to show the users.
>> 
>> Suggestions?
> 
> Thanks! That looks good!
> 
> For Windows I would suggest as title:
> 
> Additional notes for Windows!
> 
> Text:
> 
> At the moment we only offer a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows.
> However, this version installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit
> (x86-64).
> Please note that you may need JAVA in 32-bit for additional
> functionality.
 
 Add: which must then be selected (one time only) in /Tools /Options
 /OpenOffice /Java
 
> Maybe the wording can be enhanced...
>>> 
>>> with some ideas and line breaks from me I've the following for the
>>> moment (only locally, not yet on staging):
>>> 
>>> Title:
>>> "OpenOffice and Java - What to do?"
>>> 
>>> Text:
>>> "At the moment there is a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows. However,
>>> this installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit (x86-64).
>>> Please note that you may need Java in 32-bit for additional
>>> functionality which must then be selected once only (see menu 'Tools -
>>> Options - OpenOffice - Java').
>>> 
>>> For more information about OpenOffice and Java please see the link on
>>> the right 'Java and Apache OpenOffice'
>>> (https://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html)."
>> Looks good, but *if* the URL is not clickable, I would leave it out...
> 
> yes, it's in the mouse-over. So, I'll leave the link out.
> 
> Marcus
> 
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Re: Linux virtual machines for release builds

2021-01-04 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 1/4/2021 11:57 AM, Marcus wrote:
> Am 04.01.21 um 16:27 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:
>> On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 04:03:35PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
>>
>>> first of all, thank you to Mechtilde, Carl, and Jim.
>>>
>> [...]
>>>
>>> I am trying to re-organize the page to make the official release
>>> builders clear, and hopefully leaving the appropriate space for
>>> further contributions.
>>>
>>> Link for a quicker click:
>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
>>>
>>
>> I am done with the re-organization.  If there are no heavy criticism
>> against the current structure, we could add other distributions as
>> sub-chapters. Ubuntu 16.04 is already there as a draft.
> 
> yes please, otherwise the page will be longer and longer and ... ;-)
> 
>> I am open to criticism and/or suggestions on what else to add.
> 
> Is it possible to start with a general page? Then it can introduce the
> build system a bit and the instructions for every distribution has its
> own sub-page.
> 
> I think this would give a better structure to the whole.
> 
> Marcus
Marcus;

That section is only one of nine sections in the build guide. The
general information about the build process are the first section of the
guide.rigio and I have been discussing certain aspects of that on doc@

regards
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Re: Linux virtual machines for release builds

2021-01-04 Thread Arrigo Marchiori
Hello Marcus,

On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 05:57:56PM +0100, Marcus wrote:

> Am 04.01.21 um 16:27 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:
> > On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 04:03:35PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> > 
> > > first of all, thank you to Mechtilde, Carl, and Jim.
> > > 
> > [...]
> > > 
> > > I am trying to re-organize the page to make the official release
> > > builders clear, and hopefully leaving the appropriate space for
> > > further contributions.
> > > 
> > > Link for a quicker click:
> > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
> > 
> > I am done with the re-organization.  If there are no heavy criticism
> > against the current structure, we could add other distributions as
> > sub-chapters. Ubuntu 16.04 is already there as a draft.
> 
> yes please, otherwise the page will be longer and longer and ... ;-)
> 
> > I am open to criticism and/or suggestions on what else to add.
> 
> Is it possible to start with a general page? Then it can introduce the build
> system a bit

I second Keith's opinion: this should be the purpose of the building
guide itself.

> and the instructions for every distribution has its own
> sub-page.
> I think this would give a better structure to the whole.

I mentioned "sub-chapters" but I understand you would better like to
have "sub-pages"? That sounds nice...

If we wanted to make different sub-pages, I would just get rid of
Step_by_step [1] and substitute it with:
 - Step_by_step_Linux
 - Step_by_step_macOS
 - Step_by_step_Windows

Then, if we add lots of Linux distros, they will not bother Windows
and Mac users.

The new pages would be directly linked by the building guide. I don't
think it would be useful to keep Step_by_step [1] just as an index of
the other pages.

Did I understand your proposal correctly, Marcus?

References:

1: 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
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Re: Proposed change for download page

2021-01-04 Thread Marcus

Am 04.01.21 um 19:44 schrieb Dave Fisher:

I think that the new link would look better if were directly below the buttons 
and not to the right.

One reason is that on my window the link is too wide and “choose?” Is wrapped 
to below the buttons anyway.


interesting. I'm working with a large resolution and big browser windows 
(mostly fullsize). So, problems are not always visible.


As the text position is already in discussion it seems to be another 
good argument to place the text elsewhere.


After choosing the favorite platform the users attention is still at the 
3 buttons (platform, language, version). So it's the best to place the 
text directly below these buttons.


To place it to the right of the 2 download buttons is in this second no 
longer in the users focus. Now it's "I want my download, now". ;-)


@All:
Let me play a bit with the download page. I'll come back with a suggestion.

Thanks

Marcus




On Jan 4, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Marcus  wrote:

Am 04.01.21 um 16:13 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Marcus,
Am 04.01.21 um 12:35 schrieb Marcus:

Am 03.01.21 um 21:28 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 21:24:06 +0100
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

Am 03.01.21 um 20:07 schrieb Marcus:


I've added a bit more magic:

https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/download/index.html

Now we can show a different text when Windows, Mac or Linux install
files are selected. It's a short title with more text as mouse-over.

For Linux it's known. However, for Windows and Mac we need the info we
want to show the users.

Suggestions?


Thanks! That looks good!

For Windows I would suggest as title:

Additional notes for Windows!

Text:

At the moment we only offer a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows.
However, this version installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit
(x86-64).
Please note that you may need JAVA in 32-bit for additional
functionality.


Add: which must then be selected (one time only) in /Tools /Options
/OpenOffice /Java


Maybe the wording can be enhanced...


with some ideas and line breaks from me I've the following for the
moment (only locally, not yet on staging):

Title:
"OpenOffice and Java - What to do?"

Text:
"At the moment there is a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows. However,
this installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit (x86-64).
Please note that you may need Java in 32-bit for additional
functionality which must then be selected once only (see menu 'Tools -
Options - OpenOffice - Java').

For more information about OpenOffice and Java please see the link on
the right 'Java and Apache OpenOffice'
(https://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html)."

Looks good, but *if* the URL is not clickable, I would leave it out...


yes, it's in the mouse-over. So, I'll leave the link out.



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Re: Linux virtual machines for release builds

2021-01-04 Thread Mechtilde
For me

+1

Mechtilde

Am 04.01.21 um 21:20 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:
> Hello Marcus,
> 
> On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 05:57:56PM +0100, Marcus wrote:
> 
>> Am 04.01.21 um 16:27 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:
>>> On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 04:03:35PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
>>>
 first of all, thank you to Mechtilde, Carl, and Jim.

>>> [...]

 I am trying to re-organize the page to make the official release
 builders clear, and hopefully leaving the appropriate space for
 further contributions.

 Link for a quicker click:
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
>>>
>>> I am done with the re-organization.  If there are no heavy criticism
>>> against the current structure, we could add other distributions as
>>> sub-chapters. Ubuntu 16.04 is already there as a draft.
>>
>> yes please, otherwise the page will be longer and longer and ... ;-)
>>
>>> I am open to criticism and/or suggestions on what else to add.
>>
>> Is it possible to start with a general page? Then it can introduce the build
>> system a bit
> 
> I second Keith's opinion: this should be the purpose of the building
> guide itself.
> 
>> and the instructions for every distribution has its own
>> sub-page.
>> I think this would give a better structure to the whole.
> 
> I mentioned "sub-chapters" but I understand you would better like to
> have "sub-pages"? That sounds nice...
> 
> If we wanted to make different sub-pages, I would just get rid of
> Step_by_step [1] and substitute it with:
>  - Step_by_step_Linux
>  - Step_by_step_macOS
>  - Step_by_step_Windows
> 
> Then, if we add lots of Linux distros, they will not bother Windows
> and Mac users.
> 
> The new pages would be directly linked by the building guide. I don't
> think it would be useful to keep Step_by_step [1] just as an index of
> the other pages.
> 
> Did I understand your proposal correctly, Marcus?
> 
> References:
> 
> 1: 
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
> 

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