Re: [VOTE][WWW] Homepage, Drop Inner-Scrollbars & Unite News Areas
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Marcus (OOo) wrote: > >> IMHO there is no need to do a vote for this topic. >> > > Sure, no need for a formal vote (these are very, very rare). > > > And please note that the current design was never announced as the final >> one. It was just to help to get rid of the lng text area where >> everybody had to scroll to the bottom get see all. >> > Understandable... > > These were the steps that led to it: > - We used to have only one area, used for announcements (short text, > self-contained, i.e., it did not link to a "further information" page) > - We wanted to give some more visibility to blogs since they were updated > more often than these "announcements"; thus the area was split into "Blog > Posts" and "News", but there is no reason to keep it separate; we can merge > them and "Latest Blog posts" can become one of the News items. > This sounds fine -- I would be in favor of just keeping the heading as "News". I don't suppose there's an issue of keeping Blogs on top. What had been done in the past is to "manually" move older items to the news archive at /news/index.html. We need to decided if we want to continue to do this. A different discussion -- maybe even involving a different way of doing this -- a news feed. So, +3 from me on this and to me this means going back to the old way for now. (Offloading items as the list becomes too long). > - Marcus explained why the scrollbars were born: basically this grew out > of control. > > > What about to create a demo webpage to show us your ideas? >> > > This is probably the way to go. The whole tree under /test can be used for > experiments. > > Regards, > Andrea. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- - MzK "To be trusted is a greater compliment than being loved." -- George MacDonald
Re: [VOTE][WWW] Homepage, Drop Inner-Scrollbars & Unite News Areas
Marcus (OOo) wrote: IMHO there is no need to do a vote for this topic. Sure, no need for a formal vote (these are very, very rare). And please note that the current design was never announced as the final one. It was just to help to get rid of the lng text area where everybody had to scroll to the bottom get see all. These were the steps that led to it: - We used to have only one area, used for announcements (short text, self-contained, i.e., it did not link to a "further information" page) - We wanted to give some more visibility to blogs since they were updated more often than these "announcements"; thus the area was split into "Blog Posts" and "News", but there is no reason to keep it separate; we can merge them and "Latest Blog posts" can become one of the News items. - Marcus explained why the scrollbars were born: basically this grew out of control. What about to create a demo webpage to show us your ideas? This is probably the way to go. The whole tree under /test can be used for experiments. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE][WWW] Homepage, Drop Inner-Scrollbars & Unite News Areas
IMHO there is no need to do a vote for this topic. Nobody has a different opinion. So, it's "just do it". Of course it has to be changed. The only question is how. ;-) And please note that the current design was never announced as the final one. It was just to help to get rid of the lng text area where everybody had to scroll to the bottom get see all. What about to create a demo webpage to show us your ideas? BTW: More information about voting and when it is recommended can be found here: http://openoffice.apache.org/community-faqs.html Marcus Am 07/12/2014 02:55 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel: I suggest to dropoff the scrollbars from the News& Blog posts areas, on the Homepage, and unite these areas into one zone, that notifies about, well, anything, whether latest news, posts, wanted volunteers, important upcoming dates, events, etc. Personally, I don't think the inner/frame scrollbars help much. In fact, they adhere reading, and I find it hard to work with 3 scrollbars on this rather simple homepage, in order to read a just a few lines (usually, the latest blog posts& news don't contain more than 5 items), hence, the scrollbars are redundant. Voting rules: Remove Scrollbars: +1 Unite Zones: +2 Remove Scrollbars& Unite areas: +3 DON'T Remove Scrollbars: -1 DON'T Unite Zones: -2 DON'T Remove Scrollbars nor Unite areas: -3 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE][WWW] Homepage, Drop Inner-Scrollbars & Unite News Areas
Perhaps you saw my post on changing from scrollbars to a carrousell slider similar to this one: http://showcase.awkwardgroup.com/ The reason that scrollbars were used is to not create a huge whitespace with a lot of content on the right side while the central part being static. The scrollbar created a fixed design of it all. A carrousel slider provides a much better way to show content without having to increment the space needed. I agree the inner/frame scrollbars are a mess, and some works need to be done with the classes news_all and campaign. Previously (almost 4 months ago) I recommend using a pane system, which will allow the user to increment the size of the widget through a hide/show on the title (this was more applied to a Faq site). Making it possible to consume initially a minimum of space. However it seems many people in this group have no idea what Javascript's frameworks are, confusing them with a server-side scripting language. http://markmail.org/thread/wmx2tnusflwzzpu5 On 7/12/14, Tal Daniel wrote: > I suggest to dropoff the scrollbars from the News & Blog posts areas, on > the Homepage, and unite these areas into one zone, that notifies about, > well, anything, whether latest news, posts, wanted volunteers, important > upcoming dates, events, etc. > > Personally, I don't think the inner/frame scrollbars help much. In fact, > they adhere reading, and I find it hard to work with 3 scrollbars on this > rather simple homepage, in order to read a just a few lines (usually, the > latest blog posts & news don't contain more than 5 items), hence, the > scrollbars are redundant. > > Voting rules: > Remove Scrollbars: +1 > Unite Zones: +2 > Remove Scrollbars & Unite areas: +3 > DON'T Remove Scrollbars: -1 > DON'T Unite Zones: -2 > DON'T Remove Scrollbars nor Unite areas: -3 > > Tal > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[VOTE][WWW] Homepage, Drop Inner-Scrollbars & Unite News Areas
I suggest to dropoff the scrollbars from the News & Blog posts areas, on the Homepage, and unite these areas into one zone, that notifies about, well, anything, whether latest news, posts, wanted volunteers, important upcoming dates, events, etc. Personally, I don't think the inner/frame scrollbars help much. In fact, they adhere reading, and I find it hard to work with 3 scrollbars on this rather simple homepage, in order to read a just a few lines (usually, the latest blog posts & news don't contain more than 5 items), hence, the scrollbars are redundant. Voting rules: Remove Scrollbars: +1 Unite Zones: +2 Remove Scrollbars & Unite areas: +3 DON'T Remove Scrollbars: -1 DON'T Unite Zones: -2 DON'T Remove Scrollbars nor Unite areas: -3 Tal