Re: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

2015-08-16 Thread jan i
Hi.

Today is end of nominations, we have received 1 nomination and Dennis has
accepted the nomination.

I do not see a need for a further discussion period, since the last entry
on this thread was 13 days ago (not counting the private mails I have
received).

I will start the VOTE Thread shortly.

rgds
jan I.


On 3 August 2015 at 20:34, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote:


  On 31 Jul 15, at 17:40, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Roberto Galoppini
  roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I would like to nominate Dennis Hamilton (orcmid), for a number of
  reasons
  we already discussed here, and more important to say because of his
 very
  positive attitude towards collaboration within the PMC.
 
  He proved to be an excellent mediator and advisor to the group, always
  respectful of the Apache Way and willing to help.
 
 
  +1.
 
  I think Dennis would be a great choice, if he is willing.   I've known
  him for almost a decade now, from his volunteer work on the ODF
  standard and with ODF interoperability.   He was one of the few true
  volunteer members of the ODF TC, not working for any of the large
  commercial vendors, but gained the respect of all with his technical
  knowledge and experience, but also his willingness to work with all.
  He's a gentleman, something we don't see much anymore.   I met him
  once in Seattle at an ODF Plugfest and he made me appreciate the
  importance of thanking public bus drivers.  My mentioning all this
  will surely embarrass Dennis a little, but that's the kind of guy he
  is, and I want to make sure you know that.
 
  Regards,
 
  -Rob
 
 
  and my +1 for Dennis Hamilton as chair
 
  I think Dennis would be an excellent choice.
 
  For what it's worth, he was also one of the original endorsers (well I
  don't know the proper term is here) for bringing OpenOffice into the ASF:
  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal
 
  I think this says a lot about his interest and enthusiasm for OpenOffice

 +1 nomination for DH, too.

 Note, DH also ran for Chair last time we went through this. And given the
 abundance of reminders by Rich and others as to what a chair is and is not
 and given also that DH has been involved with Apache since …? (ages)…  As
 well as active with ODF (in numerous loci, despite his claims to be
 slightly less engaged), and also Corinthia….

 Cheers,
 louis
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Re: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

2015-08-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts

 On 31 Jul 15, at 17:40, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Roberto Galoppini
 roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I would like to nominate Dennis Hamilton (orcmid), for a number of
 reasons
 we already discussed here, and more important to say because of his very
 positive attitude towards collaboration within the PMC.
 
 He proved to be an excellent mediator and advisor to the group, always
 respectful of the Apache Way and willing to help.
 
 
 +1.
 
 I think Dennis would be a great choice, if he is willing.   I've known
 him for almost a decade now, from his volunteer work on the ODF
 standard and with ODF interoperability.   He was one of the few true
 volunteer members of the ODF TC, not working for any of the large
 commercial vendors, but gained the respect of all with his technical
 knowledge and experience, but also his willingness to work with all.
 He's a gentleman, something we don't see much anymore.   I met him
 once in Seattle at an ODF Plugfest and he made me appreciate the
 importance of thanking public bus drivers.  My mentioning all this
 will surely embarrass Dennis a little, but that's the kind of guy he
 is, and I want to make sure you know that.
 
 Regards,
 
 -Rob
 
 
 and my +1 for Dennis Hamilton as chair
 
 I think Dennis would be an excellent choice.
 
 For what it's worth, he was also one of the original endorsers (well I
 don't know the proper term is here) for bringing OpenOffice into the ASF:
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal
 
 I think this says a lot about his interest and enthusiasm for OpenOffice

+1 nomination for DH, too. 

Note, DH also ran for Chair last time we went through this. And given the 
abundance of reminders by Rich and others as to what a chair is and is not and 
given also that DH has been involved with Apache since …? (ages)…  As well as 
active with ODF (in numerous loci, despite his claims to be slightly less 
engaged), and also Corinthia….

Cheers,
louis
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Re: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

2015-07-31 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:26:29 +0200
Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I would like to nominate Dennis Hamilton (orcmid), for a number of reasons
 we already discussed here, and more important to say because of his very
 positive attitude towards collaboration within the PMC.
 
 He proved to be an excellent mediator and advisor to the group, always
 respectful of the Apache Way and willing to help.
 
 Roberto

Agreed. I had intended to nominate him, but was waiting for a few days to see 
reaction on list to Jan's announcement of resignation.

Rory O'Farrell

 
 
 
 
 
 2015-07-30 12:39 GMT+02:00 jan i j...@apache.org:
 
  Hi.
 
  I will resign at the board meeting in September, so the current schedule
  looks like:
  Accept/Nominate/Discuss candidates until August 16th
  Discussion ends August 23th
  Voting ends September 4th
  Resolution send to board September 5th.
  New chair takes over immediately after the board meeting.
 
  snip
  Please use this mail thread to announce yourself as a candidate, or to
  nominate
  someone else (remark that person must state whether or not the nomination
  is
  accepted). There are no formal limits to being a nominee, apart from
  committer
  status.
 
  The rules for the vote, will depend on the number of candidates but is
  basically
  a majority vote, with PMC votes being binding.
 
  rgds
  jan i.
 


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Re: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

2015-07-31 Thread Roberto Galoppini
Hi all,

I would like to nominate Dennis Hamilton (orcmid), for a number of reasons
we already discussed here, and more important to say because of his very
positive attitude towards collaboration within the PMC.

He proved to be an excellent mediator and advisor to the group, always
respectful of the Apache Way and willing to help.

Roberto





2015-07-30 12:39 GMT+02:00 jan i j...@apache.org:

 Hi.

 I will resign at the board meeting in September, so the current schedule
 looks like:
 Accept/Nominate/Discuss candidates until August 16th
 Discussion ends August 23th
 Voting ends September 4th
 Resolution send to board September 5th.
 New chair takes over immediately after the board meeting.

 snip
 Please use this mail thread to announce yourself as a candidate, or to
 nominate
 someone else (remark that person must state whether or not the nomination
 is
 accepted). There are no formal limits to being a nominee, apart from
 committer
 status.

 The rules for the vote, will depend on the number of candidates but is
 basically
 a majority vote, with PMC votes being binding.

 rgds
 jan i.



Re: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

2015-07-31 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Roberto Galoppini
roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I would like to nominate Dennis Hamilton (orcmid), for a number of reasons
 we already discussed here, and more important to say because of his very
 positive attitude towards collaboration within the PMC.

 He proved to be an excellent mediator and advisor to the group, always
 respectful of the Apache Way and willing to help.


+1.

I think Dennis would be a great choice, if he is willing.   I've known
him for almost a decade now, from his volunteer work on the ODF
standard and with ODF interoperability.   He was one of the few true
volunteer members of the ODF TC, not working for any of the large
commercial vendors, but gained the respect of all with his technical
knowledge and experience, but also his willingness to work with all.
He's a gentleman, something we don't see much anymore.   I met him
once in Seattle at an ODF Plugfest and he made me appreciate the
importance of thanking public bus drivers.  My mentioning all this
will surely embarrass Dennis a little, but that's the kind of guy he
is, and I want to make sure you know that.

Regards,

-Rob

 Roberto





 2015-07-30 12:39 GMT+02:00 jan i j...@apache.org:

 Hi.

 I will resign at the board meeting in September, so the current schedule
 looks like:
 Accept/Nominate/Discuss candidates until August 16th
 Discussion ends August 23th
 Voting ends September 4th
 Resolution send to board September 5th.
 New chair takes over immediately after the board meeting.

 snip
 Please use this mail thread to announce yourself as a candidate, or to
 nominate
 someone else (remark that person must state whether or not the nomination
 is
 accepted). There are no formal limits to being a nominee, apart from
 committer
 status.

 The rules for the vote, will depend on the number of candidates but is
 basically
 a majority vote, with PMC votes being binding.

 rgds
 jan i.


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Re: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

2015-07-31 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Roberto Galoppini
 roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I would like to nominate Dennis Hamilton (orcmid), for a number of
 reasons
  we already discussed here, and more important to say because of his very
  positive attitude towards collaboration within the PMC.
 
  He proved to be an excellent mediator and advisor to the group, always
  respectful of the Apache Way and willing to help.
 

 +1.

 I think Dennis would be a great choice, if he is willing.   I've known
 him for almost a decade now, from his volunteer work on the ODF
 standard and with ODF interoperability.   He was one of the few true
 volunteer members of the ODF TC, not working for any of the large
 commercial vendors, but gained the respect of all with his technical
 knowledge and experience, but also his willingness to work with all.
 He's a gentleman, something we don't see much anymore.   I met him
 once in Seattle at an ODF Plugfest and he made me appreciate the
 importance of thanking public bus drivers.  My mentioning all this
 will surely embarrass Dennis a little, but that's the kind of guy he
 is, and I want to make sure you know that.

 Regards,

 -Rob


and my +1 for Dennis Hamilton as chair

 I think Dennis would be an excellent choice.

For what it's worth, he was also one of the original endorsers (well I
don't know the proper term is here) for bringing OpenOffice into the ASF:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal

I think this says a lot about his interest and enthusiasm for OpenOffice




  Roberto
 
 
 
 
 
  2015-07-30 12:39 GMT+02:00 jan i j...@apache.org:
 
  Hi.
 
  I will resign at the board meeting in September, so the current schedule
  looks like:
  Accept/Nominate/Discuss candidates until August 16th
  Discussion ends August 23th
  Voting ends September 4th
  Resolution send to board September 5th.
  New chair takes over immediately after the board meeting.
 
  snip
  Please use this mail thread to announce yourself as a candidate, or to
  nominate
  someone else (remark that person must state whether or not the
 nomination
  is
  accepted). There are no formal limits to being a nominee, apart from
  committer
  status.
 
  The rules for the vote, will depend on the number of candidates but is
  basically
  a majority vote, with PMC votes being binding.
 
  rgds
  jan i.
 


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Re: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

2015-07-30 Thread jan i
Hi Dennis

I have absolutely no problem with your changes as long as September 5th
remain unchanged.

however as we both know, the opinion thst I should follow the idea of a
single persone have
been raised quite direct in private, do could you please endure PMC
consensus to the proposal. With consensus I willchabfe it imidiatly.

rgds
jan i


On Thursday, July 30, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote:

 This is not a nomination statement.  It is a comment and a procedural
 suggestion.

 COMMENT

 Jan,

 I am certain that you gave deep consideration to your decision to resign.
 I trust that you have other pursuits that are more satisfying and that you
 can now provide full devotion to.  I wish you good fortune in all endeavors
 that you commit your considerable energies to.

 For me, your continued participation on the PMC, at whatever level you
 choose, will be welcome.

 PROPOSAL

 Two things,

  1. If there is only one nominee at the end of discussion, I suggest that
 a (5-day or 7-day) lazy consensus period, not a [VOTE], be conducted for
 that candidate.  This allows discussion on the specific candidate,
 including response to any objections, and the achievement of consensus
 without the awful situation that Louis Suarez-Potts endured in the previous
 determination of a Chair recommendation.

  2. I think candidates should be current PMC members (although that could
 simply be a matter of stated qualifications in the process we are starting
 now).  I base that on neither of the previous candidates being current PMC
 members.  I found, for myself, on joining the PMC after the previous
 election, that I was definitely missing background and understanding of the
 status of the PMC and issues it was being faced with.  I also missed seeing
 the way the outgoing Chair (i.e., Andrea Pescetti) provided examples as a
 PMC Chair.  For those who consider this role, please consult and embrace
 the definition of PMC Chair responsibilities at 
 https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair.

  - Dennis

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 Hi.

 I will resign at the board meeting in September, so the current schedule
 looks like:
 Accept/Nominate/Discuss candidates until August 16th
 Discussion ends August 23th
 Voting ends September 4th
 Resolution send to board September 5th.
 New chair takes over immediately after the board meeting.

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[DISCUSS] RE: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

2015-07-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
This is not a nomination statement.  It is a comment and a procedural 
suggestion.

COMMENT

Jan,

I am certain that you gave deep consideration to your decision to resign.  I 
trust that you have other pursuits that are more satisfying and that you can 
now provide full devotion to.  I wish you good fortune in all endeavors that 
you commit your considerable energies to.  

For me, your continued participation on the PMC, at whatever level you choose, 
will be welcome.

PROPOSAL

Two things,

 1. If there is only one nominee at the end of discussion, I suggest that a 
(5-day or 7-day) lazy consensus period, not a [VOTE], be conducted for that 
candidate.  This allows discussion on the specific candidate, including 
response to any objections, and the achievement of consensus without the awful 
situation that Louis Suarez-Potts endured in the previous determination of a 
Chair recommendation.

 2. I think candidates should be current PMC members (although that could 
simply be a matter of stated qualifications in the process we are starting 
now).  I base that on neither of the previous candidates being current PMC 
members.  I found, for myself, on joining the PMC after the previous election, 
that I was definitely missing background and understanding of the status of the 
PMC and issues it was being faced with.  I also missed seeing the way the 
outgoing Chair (i.e., Andrea Pescetti) provided examples as a PMC Chair.  For 
those who consider this role, please consult and embrace the definition of PMC 
Chair responsibilities at https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 03:39
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

Hi.

I will resign at the board meeting in September, so the current schedule
looks like:
Accept/Nominate/Discuss candidates until August 16th
Discussion ends August 23th
Voting ends September 4th
Resolution send to board September 5th.
New chair takes over immediately after the board meeting.

[ ... ]


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