Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal [and 1 more messages]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21-12-11 18:57, Eli Barzilay wrote: Since I'm talking, I might as well mention my personal opinion on the strong points of racket (besides the (non-)obvious ones of having advanced macros, first-class continuations and all that kind of stuff) since these might be worth mentioning on the front page: [...gui...] [...web-server...] Yeah, including these things would be good, if someone can compose a similarly short and understandable and not-too-buzz-wordy text out of them. Right, so let's brainstorm a bit. GUI: cross-platform native GUI library unified native GUI programming for Windows, OS X and Linux native cross-platform widgets cross-platform graphics cross-platform graphical library that supports writing cross-platform native GUI applications Web: continuation-enabled web server direct style web programming direct style web programming with continuation-enabled web server non-inverted web programming writing web applications as normal programs that let's you write web applications as normal programs that let's you write web applications without inverting control flow Racket: Racket is a unique general-purpose programming language with strong support for domain-specific languages, that enables you to do unified native GUI programming for Windows, OS X and Linux, and let's you write web applications without inverting control flow. Who's next? ;P Marijn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7y8iAACgkQp/VmCx0OL2wuOACfS96l5P6nDCcJwW9V0R0O35Qp Y7wAnioWjgJmXru3m3jt8GOZy4bKq2YG =u51W -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20-12-11 21:28, Eli Barzilay wrote: | platform for language design and implementation. That means almost nothing to most people. Even something like Racket is a Programmable Language works better... I don't think that there's a way to make it clear in a short sentence, but if there is, it should most definitely get included. Some while ago you and me talked on irc about a short one-sentence description of the racket package for Gentoo. IIRC the conclusion was that you weren't unhappy with me using: Racket is a general-purpose programming language with strong support for domain-specific languages. Maybe that is a good start to finally improve over just Racket is a programming language.. Since I'm talking, I might as well mention my personal opinion on the strong points of racket (besides the (non-)obvious ones of having advanced macros, first-class continuations and all that kind of stuff) since these might be worth mentioning on the front page: *) The cross-platform native GUI library is a big part of why I'm interested in Racket at all. It looks like the plot library makes this already awesome (and I believe still quite unique) feature even more awesome (at least for the applications that I'm interested in these days). *) The support for writing web applications in ordinary direct style. Though I haven't really tried it out yet, if the times comes I would definitely try racket for this first. Marijn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7xoPkACgkQp/VmCx0OL2x6QACfdjGoHJZzG7JTyhpcy5nMig6x 2ZgAn0W4eD0xf6DYTWh+xkMxxamJcTTC =1LGq -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
I agree that we need to go beyond 'Racket is a programming language' as cute as it may be. I am surprised Eli objected to your proposed sentence, because it is a good, solid one-sentence description. Then again, I suspect all of us know that Racket is a chameleon and we are therefore disinclined to agree when someone says 'it is red'. Because tomorrow it might be green. -- Matthias On Dec 21, 2011, at 4:03 AM, Marijn wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20-12-11 21:28, Eli Barzilay wrote: | platform for language design and implementation. That means almost nothing to most people. Even something like Racket is a Programmable Language works better... I don't think that there's a way to make it clear in a short sentence, but if there is, it should most definitely get included. Some while ago you and me talked on irc about a short one-sentence description of the racket package for Gentoo. IIRC the conclusion was that you weren't unhappy with me using: Racket is a general-purpose programming language with strong support for domain-specific languages. Maybe that is a good start to finally improve over just Racket is a programming language.. Since I'm talking, I might as well mention my personal opinion on the strong points of racket (besides the (non-)obvious ones of having advanced macros, first-class continuations and all that kind of stuff) since these might be worth mentioning on the front page: *) The cross-platform native GUI library is a big part of why I'm interested in Racket at all. It looks like the plot library makes this already awesome (and I believe still quite unique) feature even more awesome (at least for the applications that I'm interested in these days). *) The support for writing web applications in ordinary direct style. Though I haven't really tried it out yet, if the times comes I would definitely try racket for this first. Marijn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7xoPkACgkQp/VmCx0OL2x6QACfdjGoHJZzG7JTyhpcy5nMig6x 2ZgAn0W4eD0xf6DYTWh+xkMxxamJcTTC =1LGq -END PGP SIGNATURE- _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal [and 1 more messages]
9 hours ago, Marijn wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20-12-11 21:28, Eli Barzilay wrote: | platform for language design and implementation. That means almost nothing to most people. Even something like Racket is a Programmable Language works better... I don't think that there's a way to make it clear in a short sentence, but if there is, it should most definitely get included. Some while ago you and me talked on irc about a short one-sentence description of the racket package for Gentoo. IIRC the conclusion was that you weren't unhappy with me using: Racket is a general-purpose programming language with strong support for domain-specific languages. Maybe that is a good start to finally improve over just Racket is a programming language.. Yes, I forgot about that -- IMO it's definitely more approachable. (And yes, the text that I was referring to is Asumu's replacement of the Racket is a Programming Language.) Since I'm talking, I might as well mention my personal opinion on the strong points of racket (besides the (non-)obvious ones of having advanced macros, first-class continuations and all that kind of stuff) since these might be worth mentioning on the front page: [...gui...] [...web-server...] Yeah, including these things would be good, if someone can compose a similarly short and understandable and not-too-buzz-wordy text out of them. Three hours ago, Matthias Felleisen wrote: I agree that we need to go beyond 'Racket is a programming language' as cute as it may be. I am surprised Eli objected to your proposed sentence, because it is a good, solid one-sentence description. I didn't -- I looked up that conversation, and at the end I said That sounds fine for a one liner. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
I like the idea, but I think our twitter feed and blog aren't updated enough. Robby On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Asumu Takikawa as...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: Hi all, Currently, the Racket home page is really nice, but it leaves a significant amount of vertical space unused that could be used to communicate information. How would people feel about adding more content below the fold on the website? To be more concrete about this, here's a mockup I made: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/asumu/racket-home/ (should look fine on Firefox, Opera, and Chrome at least) Notably, it contains a twitter feed for @racketlang and entries from the blog. These might help to give the first impression that we're an active community. Cheers, Asumu _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
Greetings. On 2011 Dec 20, at 05:34, Asumu Takikawa wrote: Currently, the Racket home page is really nice, but it leaves a significant amount of vertical space unused that could be used to communicate information. ...or which could be used, as now, to project authority and decisiveness. The white space below the text currently on the Racket page says this is all that has to be said at this point; follow the links above for more information. That makes me at least pay more attention to it. If there's more text on the page, as in the sample page, I read less of it, and I don't imagine I'm alone in that. I can feel my eyes gliding over the page, trying to find some way of parsing it. I alight on the 'Download Racket' link, and on the 'About', 'Download', 'Documentation', ... headlines, and they end up being the only things I see at all. Best wishes, Norman -- Norman Gray : http://nxg.me.uk SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
I like the idea too, but I think we should bring more content from other parts of the site to the front page. The Ruby home page [http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/] has most of our participate section on the front page, for example. The Clojure home page [http://clojure.org/] does a nice job with the blog integration. And the node.js download link [http://nodejs.org/] is very well done. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: I like the idea, but I think our twitter feed and blog aren't updated enough. Robby On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Asumu Takikawa as...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: Hi all, Currently, the Racket home page is really nice, but it leaves a significant amount of vertical space unused that could be used to communicate information. How would people feel about adding more content below the fold on the website? To be more concrete about this, here's a mockup I made: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/asumu/racket-home/ (should look fine on Firefox, Opera, and Chrome at least) Notably, it contains a twitter feed for @racketlang and entries from the blog. These might help to give the first impression that we're an active community. Cheers, Asumu _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev -- sam th sa...@ccs.neu.edu _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
Asumu, thanks for the effort. I like the width of the Ruby and Clojure pages -- space on each side is good. I really like the highlighting of the sample code on the Ruby page. I prefer our organization of sample code, and I wish we could run some of these in Danny's compiler. I like the height of the old Racket page. And I like the simplicity of the old Racket page and the Clojure page. I do NOT like pages that have text below my laptop screen 'fold'. My eyes do glaze over. And I am off the page quickly. I wouldn't mind a second Racket site that has some of what Asumu proposes, say Racket-fans.org On Dec 20, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: I like the idea too, but I think we should bring more content from other parts of the site to the front page. The Ruby home page [http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/] has most of our participate section on the front page, for example. The Clojure home page [http://clojure.org/] does a nice job with the blog integration. And the node.js download link [http://nodejs.org/] is very well done. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: I like the idea, but I think our twitter feed and blog aren't updated enough. Robby On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Asumu Takikawa as...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: Hi all, Currently, the Racket home page is really nice, but it leaves a significant amount of vertical space unused that could be used to communicate information. How would people feel about adding more content below the fold on the website? To be more concrete about this, here's a mockup I made: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/asumu/racket-home/ (should look fine on Firefox, Opera, and Chrome at least) Notably, it contains a twitter feed for @racketlang and entries from the blog. These might help to give the first impression that we're an active community. Cheers, Asumu _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev -- sam th sa...@ccs.neu.edu _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
On 2011-12-20 4:07 AM, Robby Findler wrote: I like the idea, but I think our twitter feed and blog aren't updated enough. When we decided to put a twitter feed on the rabbitmq.com homepage, we went with simply including *any tweet mentioning rabbitmq*. This has its upside and its downside, of course, and there was a lot of discussion at the time as to whether this was appropriate, shooting ourselves in the foot, etc. By and large, it has worked out. Negative tweets are few and far between. The impression given is of a vibrant and fairly diverse community. Trickier, perhaps, with Racket, which isn't such a unique search term. Tony _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Matthias Felleisen matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: I do NOT like pages that have text below my laptop screen 'fold'. My eyes do glaze over. And I am off the page quickly. The important questions about this are: 1. Does it affect your attention to the above-the-fold text? 2. Are you more likely to read below-the-fold text than text on another page that you have to click to? Most significantly, we should really really use Noel et al's Myna [http://mynaweb.com/] tool to test this empirically. -- sam th sa...@ccs.neu.edu _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
5 hours ago, Norman Gray wrote: Greetings. On 2011 Dec 20, at 05:34, Asumu Takikawa wrote: Currently, the Racket home page is really nice, but it leaves a significant amount of vertical space unused that could be used to communicate information. ...or which could be used, as now, to project authority and decisiveness. +3 (Note that when I added the ad space on the page I intentionally didn't do so at the bottom of the page.) The white space below the text currently on the Racket page says this is all that has to be said at this point; follow the links above for more information. That makes me at least pay more attention to it. Another point that wasn't raised so far is what to do with pages where this content fits more.For the example of a twitter/blog feed and a facebook/google+ badges, the community page is much more fitting, so either this proposal drags content from there to the front page (= noise), or places it on both (= annoying redundancy). It could work better if there was some new content to put on the front page. BTW, modulo objections along Neil's lines, it seems fine to add that to the community page. But note that there's no mention there of the FB page since there's no content on it yet, and the same goes for google+. (BTW², with google+ you can even link to a page and have it integrated by g+. They also have a static version of the badge, no scripts and no tracking.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:08 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Matthias Felleisen matth...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: I do NOT like pages that have text below my laptop screen 'fold'. My eyes do glaze over. And I am off the page quickly. The important questions about this are: 1. Does it affect your attention to the above-the-fold text? 2. Are you more likely to read below-the-fold text than text on another page that you have to click to? Most significantly, we should really really use Noel et al's Myna [http://mynaweb.com/] tool to test this empirically. I personally like Asumu's version better. I think that using Noel's testing framework is a good idea. John smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
On 2011-12-20 08:02:15 -0500, Matthias Felleisen wrote: I do NOT like pages that have text below my laptop screen 'fold'. My eyes do glaze over. And I am off the page quickly. Taking some feedback into account, here's a second mockup: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/asumu/racket-home-3/ It leaves all the content above the fold but fits in more by using a fluid 12-column based layout (credit to http://cssgrid.net/). If you resize the browser window it will re-align the layout. The extra content in the space is a twitter/blog feed in the mockup, but it could be something else as well. Cheers, Asumu _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
At Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:11:35 -0500, Asumu Takikawa wrote: On 2011-12-20 08:02:15 -0500, Matthias Felleisen wrote: I do NOT like pages that have text below my laptop screen 'fold'. My eyes do glaze over. And I am off the page quickly. Taking some feedback into account, here's a second mockup: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/asumu/racket-home-3/ It leaves all the content above the fold but fits in more by using a fluid 12-column based layout (credit to http://cssgrid.net/). If you resize the browser window it will re-align the layout. The extra content in the space is a twitter/blog feed in the mockup, but it could be something else as well. I like it. I think the narrower versions were also an improvement, but this bigger change is growing on me. Overall, I like the fresh energy. It's not what I would do, and that's good. _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
Eli Barzilay wrote at 12/20/2011 01:45 PM: and there no sane way to debug it other than viewing it in all browsers. Asumu, it seems like you're on a good track, but after you get the layout how you like it in your browser, I don't envy you the cross-browser testing to which Eli refers. :) FWIW, this has a few layout problems in the (rebranded) Firefox that's in Debian Stable. Two most obvious problems: font sizes appear wrong, and then change to different wrong when switching to single-column mode, some blocks are overlaid. -- http://www.neilvandyke.org/ _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Neil Van Dyke n...@neilvandyke.org wrote: Eli Barzilay wrote at 12/20/2011 01:45 PM: and there no sane way to debug it other than viewing it in all browsers. Asumu, it seems like you're on a good track, but after you get the layout how you like it in your browser, I don't envy you the cross-browser testing to which Eli refers. :) Eli, do we have some nicely summarized information about what user-agents we see with what frequency? -- sam th sa...@ccs.neu.edu _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
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Just now, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Neil Van Dyke n...@neilvandyke.org wrote: Eli Barzilay wrote at 12/20/2011 01:45 PM: and there no sane way to debug it other than viewing it in all browsers. Asumu, it seems like you're on a good track, but after you get the layout how you like it in your browser, I don't envy you the cross-browser testing to which Eli refers. :) Eli, do we have some nicely summarized information about what user-agents we see with what frequency? That's easy to get, but it won't help much. (As an example why it doesn't: I've reorganized the examples section at some point to have the text laid out logically for a few vocal people criticizing how the page rendered in lynx -- yet I don't think that it would show up in the logs...) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Just now, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Neil Van Dyke n...@neilvandyke.org wrote: Eli Barzilay wrote at 12/20/2011 01:45 PM: and there no sane way to debug it other than viewing it in all browsers. Asumu, it seems like you're on a good track, but after you get the layout how you like it in your browser, I don't envy you the cross-browser testing to which Eli refers. :) Eli, do we have some nicely summarized information about what user-agents we see with what frequency? That's easy to get, but it won't help much. I still think it would be interesting if you can provide it. (As an example why it doesn't: I've reorganized the examples section at some point to have the text laid out logically for a few vocal people criticizing how the page rendered in lynx -- yet I don't think that it would show up in the logs...) I assume `lynx' has an appropriate user-agent string. But on the broader issue, I think it's more important to have a website that looks like we're a serious language that people might use to develop applications in 2011 than one that looks good in lynx. -- sam th sa...@ccs.neu.edu _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
Matthias Felleisen wrote at 12/20/2011 08:02 AM: I wouldn't mind a second Racket site that has some of what Asumu proposes, say Racket-fans.org BTW, I recently registered racket-club.{org,com}, mainly for the humor potential. If there is a site that someone has been aching to see happen, which for some reason can't be part of racket-lang.org, let me know. (I'd like to see racket-lang.org (hopefully someday racket.org) be the one-stop shopping center for all things Racket, not fragment that without a good reason. Ad revenue is not a good reason to fragment.) -- http://www.neilvandyke.org/ _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
At Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:45:26 -0500, Eli Barzilay wrote: (c) I'd get rid of the why racket section -- I don't see anything there that doesn't induce yawnage, I disagree. This paragraph advertizes our high-quality libraries and IDE. Both of these are great selling points, and our current website is silent about them. I also liked that the previous version of Asumu's design mentioned that Racket was both a functional and an OO language. Vincent _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
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50 minutes ago, Vincent St-Amour wrote: At Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:45:26 -0500, Eli Barzilay wrote: (c) I'd get rid of the why racket section -- I don't see anything there that doesn't induce yawnage, I disagree. This paragraph advertizes our high-quality libraries and IDE. Both of these are great selling points, and our current website is silent about them. I'm not opposed to having *some* Why Racket? text, just to the particular text: | open-source and free software programming language Redundant: too long for just free, and as Sam just said, everyone knows that programming langugaes are free anyway. | platform for language design and implementation. That means almost nothing to most people. Even something like Racket is a Programmable Language works better... I don't think that there's a way to make it clear in a short sentence, but if there is, it should most definitely get included. | Based on over 15 years of research and practical experience, *yawn* | Racket ships with many libraries, an IDE, and a package distribution | system. That's the good part in the whole blurb. I also liked that the previous version of Asumu's design mentioned that Racket was both a functional and an OO language. Yeah, that would work. So a constructive suggestion: get rid of the blah blah above, and instead add more features. (While avoiding too many buzzwords making it sound like a language features shopping list.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
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At Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:28:54 -0500, Eli Barzilay wrote: I'm not opposed to having *some* Why Racket? text, just to the particular text: I agree with most of your points about the specifics of the text. | Based on over 15 years of research and practical experience, *yawn* On the one hand, I agree, but on the other, this makes it clear that Racket has been around for a while, is a mature ecosystem and is not likely to disappear overnight. Vincent _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
[racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
Hi all, Currently, the Racket home page is really nice, but it leaves a significant amount of vertical space unused that could be used to communicate information. How would people feel about adding more content below the fold on the website? To be more concrete about this, here's a mockup I made: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/asumu/racket-home/ (should look fine on Firefox, Opera, and Chrome at least) Notably, it contains a twitter feed for @racketlang and entries from the blog. These might help to give the first impression that we're an active community. Cheers, Asumu _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
+1 On 12/19/2011 10:34 PM, Asumu Takikawa wrote: Hi all, Currently, the Racket home page is really nice, but it leaves a significant amount of vertical space unused that could be used to communicate information. How would people feel about adding more content below the fold on the website? To be more concrete about this, here's a mockup I made: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/asumu/racket-home/ (should look fine on Firefox, Opera, and Chrome at least) Notably, it contains a twitter feed for @racketlang and entries from the blog. These might help to give the first impression that we're an active community. Cheers, Asumu _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket home page proposal
Asumu Takikawa wrote at 12/20/2011 12:34 AM: How would people feel about adding more content below the fold on the website? Seems OK to me, but two points: 1. Don't let the Twitter and such dominate the page visually. Things like Twitter are for bringing people in, not sending them away or distracting once they're already at the page where we can tell them what we most want to tell them. 2. Don't use the Twitter, Facebook, etc. Web bugs. They already track individual's browsing behavior in detail across most Web sites, but Racket can be better than that, on principle. You can implement this in server-side Racket code. -- http://www.neilvandyke.org/ _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev