Which IDE?

2010-09-26 Thread Wesley Acheson
Commiters, patch authors.

Do you use an IDE to modify tomcat source code?

If you do which one?

Asking again in releation to bug 50001. Trying to see what ide's
should be supported.

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Re: Which IDE?

2010-09-26 Thread Mark Thomas
On 26/09/2010 19:08, Wesley Acheson wrote:
> Commiters, patch authors.
> 
> Do you use an IDE to modify tomcat source code?

Yes.

> If you do which one?

Eclipse for Java.
Visual Studio (rarely) for C code.

Mark

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Re: Which IDE?

2010-09-26 Thread Wesley Acheson
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:
> On 26/09/2010 19:08, Wesley Acheson wrote:
>> Commiters, patch authors.
>>
>> Do you use an IDE to modify tomcat source code?
>
> Yes.
>
>> If you do which one?
>
> Eclipse for Java.

Really do you use the formatter for the code? If so we could use your settings.


> Visual Studio (rarely) for C code.
>
> Mark
>

I've no idea on how to put in IDE specific files for Visual Studio.

Wes

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Re: Which IDE?

2010-09-26 Thread Mark Thomas
On 26/09/2010 19:38, Wesley Acheson wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:
>> On 26/09/2010 19:08, Wesley Acheson wrote:
>>> Commiters, patch authors.
>>>
>>> Do you use an IDE to modify tomcat source code?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> If you do which one?
>>
>> Eclipse for Java.
> 
> Really do you use the formatter for the code? If so we could use your 
> settings.

No. Applying the code formatter makes too many changes and adds far to
much noise to the commits.

The only change I make to default Eclipse settings is to switch from
tabs to spaces.

Mark

> 
> 
>> Visual Studio (rarely) for C code.
>>
>> Mark
>>
> 
> I've no idea on how to put in IDE specific files for Visual Studio.
> 
> Wes
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Re: Which IDE?

2010-09-26 Thread Wesley Acheson
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:
> On 26/09/2010 19:38, Wesley Acheson wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Mark Thomas  wrote:
>>> On 26/09/2010 19:08, Wesley Acheson wrote:
 Commiters, patch authors.

 Do you use an IDE to modify tomcat source code?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
 If you do which one?
>>>
>>> Eclipse for Java.
>>
>> Really do you use the formatter for the code? If so we could use your 
>> settings.
>
> No. Applying the code formatter makes too many changes and adds far to
> much noise to the commits.

Only the once though if everyone (the commiters especially) has the same format.

Which is really nice. Its a big noise but its a big noise once.

Wes
>
> The only change I make to default Eclipse settings is to switch from
> tabs to spaces.
>
> Mark
>
>>
>>
>>> Visual Studio (rarely) for C code.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>
>> I've no idea on how to put in IDE specific files for Visual Studio.
>>
>> Wes
>>
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Re: Which IDE?

2010-09-26 Thread Mark Thomas
On 26/09/2010 19:47, Wesley Acheson wrote:
> Which is really nice. Its a big noise but its a big noise once.

Which persists in the file's history making diffs that span the format
change almost impossible to decipher. Small gradual changes is the
approach the project has taken to date.

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Re: Which IDE?

2010-09-26 Thread Pid
On 26/09/2010 19:57, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 26/09/2010 19:47, Wesley Acheson wrote:
>> Which is really nice. Its a big noise but its a big noise once.
> 
> Which persists in the file's history making diffs that span the format
> change almost impossible to decipher. Small gradual changes is the
> approach the project has taken to date.

There's a lot of code in Tomcat that's been around for a long time.

There's a few places where cosmetic changes would help readability, and
plenty more when extensive/detailed commenting (by someone who
understands what that code intends to do, and actually does) would help.

I'd rather see that as a priority, than applying a common code style, in
the foreseeable.


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Re: Which IDE?

2010-09-26 Thread Wesley Acheson
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Pid  wrote:
> On 26/09/2010 19:57, Mark Thomas wrote:
>> On 26/09/2010 19:47, Wesley Acheson wrote:
>>> Which is really nice. Its a big noise but its a big noise once.
>>
>> Which persists in the file's history making diffs that span the format
>> change almost impossible to decipher. Small gradual changes is the
>> approach the project has taken to date.
>
> There's a lot of code in Tomcat that's been around for a long time.
>
> There's a few places where cosmetic changes would help readability, and
> plenty more when extensive/detailed commenting (by someone who
> understands what that code intends to do, and actually does) would help.
>
> I'd rather see that as a priority, than applying a common code style, in
> the foreseeable.
>
>
> p
>

Understood. The reason I was thinking it was important is to try to
lower the bar. So to speak the easier you make it for people to
contribute the more likely you are to get contributions.

I also agree with Marks statement above I just didn't think of it at the time.

And yes that would be more helpful. Though I'm sure everyone just
helps in the way they can.

Wes

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Re: Which IDE?

2010-09-26 Thread David Jencks

On Sep 26, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Wesley Acheson wrote:

> Commiters, patch authors.
> 
> Do you use an IDE to modify tomcat source code?
> 
> If you do which one?

IDEA
> 
> Asking again in releation to bug 50001. Trying to see what ide's
> should be supported.

My experience with IDE specific files is that checking them into svn usually 
causes far more problems that it solves.  Maybe you'll be lucky and solve more 
than you cause.  If I'm the only IDEA user I'd appreciate your not putting IDEA 
specific files in svn.

thanks
david jencks

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Re: Which IDE?

2010-09-26 Thread Wesley Acheson
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:18 AM, David Jencks  wrote:
>
> On Sep 26, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Wesley Acheson wrote:
>
>> Commiters, patch authors.
>>
>> Do you use an IDE to modify tomcat source code?
>>
>> If you do which one?
>
> IDEA
>>
>> Asking again in releation to bug 50001. Trying to see what ide's
>> should be supported.
>
> My experience with IDE specific files is that checking them into svn usually 
> causes far more problems that it solves.  Maybe you'll be lucky and solve 
> more than you cause.  If I'm the only IDEA user I'd appreciate your not 
> putting IDEA specific files in svn.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>

1. I wasn't intending in putting anything where it would automatically be used.
2. I was hoping to munge files.

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