ApacheCon @Home 2020 call for papers closes in 2 days!

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Only a couple of days to go before to call for papers closes for ApacheCon 
@Home 2020 on Monday. 

The Incubator will be running a track at this online conference, so if you're 
thinking of submitting something, please don't delay. We'll accept talks on the 
Apache incubator itself, and talks about projects in Incubator. If you have 
recently graduated (or may do shortly), you are still welcome to submit a talk.

You can submit your talks here:
https://acna2020.jamhosted.net/cfp.html

And register to attend the conference here:
https://hopin.to/events/apachecon-home

So far (with a couple of months to go) more than 900 people have signed up for 
the conference.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Create user mail list for users

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

I would suggest rather than creating a user list move some of the GitHub and 
JIRA traffic to a commits list.

Thanks,
Justin

[jira] [Commented] (TUBEMQ-189) Release binary file , like maven project

[Justin Mclean (Jira)]

[ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUBEMQ-189?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17129985#comment-17129985
 ] 

Justin Mclean commented on TUBEMQ-189:
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The download pages need a little more to be in line with ASF policy please see 
https://apache.org/dev/release-download-pages

> Release binary file , like maven project 
> -
>
> Key: TUBEMQ-189
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUBEMQ-189
> Project: Apache TubeMQ
>  Issue Type: Wish
>Reporter: netroby
>Priority: Major
> Attachments: 微信截图_20200603113139.png
>
>
> Release binary file , like maven project
> We can download the binary files. extract them , windows/linux/mac user can 
> run program easier.
> For example: [https://maven.apache.org/download.cgi]



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[jira] [Commented] (TUBEMQ-191) New user mail list for TubeMQ users

[Justin Mclean (Jira)]

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUBEMQ-191?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17129064#comment-17129064
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Justin Mclean commented on TUBEMQ-191:
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I would agree with still try to more on the mailing list than IM. If you rely 
too much on IM you will be harder to get committers outside full time people 
and your time zone. This is even harder if a lot of the conversation on the IM 
is not in English.

> New user mail list for TubeMQ users
> ---
>
> Key: TUBEMQ-191
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUBEMQ-191
> Project: Apache TubeMQ
>  Issue Type: Wish
>Reporter: netroby
>Priority: Major
>
> There should be a user mail list. 
>  
> User who looking for document, guide or whatever, None development things. 
> Should find help and guide from the user mail list.
>  



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[jira] [Commented] (TUBEMQ-207) [website] Translate error_code.md

[Justin Mclean (Jira)]

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUBEMQ-207?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17129051#comment-17129051
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Justin Mclean commented on TUBEMQ-207:
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Please make sure to have discussions on the mailing list. All decisions need to 
be discussed and made on that list not IM. IM restring contributions who are 
full time and only in the same time zone to be able to discuss thing in real 
time. This is generally not how Apache projects work.

> [website] Translate error_code.md
> -
>
> Key: TUBEMQ-207
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUBEMQ-207
> Project: Apache TubeMQ
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>Reporter: Erien Deng
>Assignee: Erien Deng
>Priority: Major
>  Labels: pull-request-available
>
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[jira] [Commented] (TUBEMQ-65) Remove the Protocol Buffers component dependency

[Justin Mclean (Jira)]

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUBEMQ-65?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17129034#comment-17129034
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Justin Mclean commented on TUBEMQ-65:
-

The license is compatible with ALv2 [1]

1. https://github.com/protocolbuffers/protobuf/blob/master/LICENSE

> Remove the Protocol Buffers component dependency
> 
>
> Key: TUBEMQ-65
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUBEMQ-65
> Project: Apache TubeMQ
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>Reporter: Guocheng Zhang
>Priority: Normal
>
> TubeMQ uses Protocol Buffers, mainly for borrowing and only borrowing pb's 
> ZigZag, Varints encoding scheme to facilitate the construction of the 
> underlying network message package. It doesn't matter which version of PB is 
> specific, so you can see that this version is very old.
> Actually, we found that if this piece is bound to PB, the compile time 
> requires the business to install this component in advance, and at the same 
> time, the issued SDK is likely to form a dependency conflict with the 
> business's PB version.
> In the future, deleting PB component dependencies may be a better choice.



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Podling report formatting

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Some podlings (BCCed) are not formatting the reports correctly. Please do not 
remove or change  the existing formatting when editing your report in the 
incubator report.

In particular do not change the formatting of the sign-off area, we have tools 
that work off this and they depend on it being in a particular format.

As noted at the top of the page it's also best to:
• Do not change existing formatting.
• Keep all lines under 76 characters long.
• All content under the ### headings should be indented by two spaces. Do not 
use tabs.
• Please don't change the text in the headings or add new ones.
• Include a space after a bullet point or full stop on a numbered list.
• Use [X] (X and no spaces) to sign off reports.
• Do not include long URLs and use apache URL shortener https://s.apache.org.

Thanks,
Justin

P.S Thanks goes to Daffodil for a perfectly formatted report.

Re: Podling Tubemq Report Reminder - February 2020

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

It’s OK and I’ll sign it off, but people reading the reporting would like to 
see more detail. For future report try to include more details.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Podling Tubemq Report Reminder - February 2020

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Thanks for updating it. I still think improvements need to be made.

Why is "Grow the community,add system functions” an issue that the board or 
Incubator needs to know about? Only things that the board or Incubator need to 
take action on need to be listed here.

In you email you said "we need to adjust the current communicate way, by email, 
not only IM.”, if this is an an issue then add it to the report. The report 
needs to be an honest assessment and shouldn't leave things out.  If you add 
this  then future reports can track progress on this issue.

Things were left out last month and this month it seems. What I do when I 
writing a report is to go though all the mailing lists (dev and private), JIRA, 
,GitHub and write down any events that happened or anything off interest. I do 
this a week or more ahead of the deadline and post a draft so other people can 
contribute. In your case you may need to include off-list communication and 
mention that this need to be corrected. For instance I assume the meetup was 
discussed off-list?

The report still contains meaningless numbers on GitHub and the like please 
remove then unless there is something interesting to say about those numbers. 
Those number on their own mean nothing to anyone outside the project and the 
people reading this report are not involved in your project.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Podling Tubemq Report Reminder - February 2020

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

I think there's some room for improvement here, if possible can you update the 
report before the reporting deadline. In future please start working on the 
report well in advance of the deadline.

> 3. Polish the code and document to satisfy the Apache way. 

There's nothing directly in the Apache way about polishing code or 
documentation. Doing so may attract and keep contributors, but there are 
probably more important things to focus on.

>### Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of?
> Needs mentors and IPMCs to help to bootstrap the project and follow the 
> Apache way to grow the community.

My understanding is that the project has been bootstrapped, if that is not the 
case, what more needs to be done?  It is not up to the IPMC and mentor to grow 
your community it is up to TubeMQ PPMC. Your mentors and the Incubator can 
provide help and guidance but you are responsible for this. Please correct this.

> ### How has the community developed since the last report? 

This is not enough detail, please provide more. The measles stats on GH /JIRA  
can be removed as they mean nothing to anyone outside the organisation. If they 
are included than some commentary on what they mean would be helpful. I didn’t 
see the meetup announced on the dev list, which is concerning.

Thanks,.
Justin

[MENTORS] Podling project report format

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Can mentors please review the format of the reports when they are submitted and 
get PPMC to fix up any formatting issues. For the second month in a row a large 
amount of manual changes needed to be made. In future reports that require 
large amounts of manual formatting will be rejected.

The instructions for the formatting are at the top of the temple and are quite 
clear:
• Keep all lines under 76 characters long.
• All content under the ### headings should be indented by two spaces. 
Do not use tabs.
• Please don't change the text in the headings or add new ones.
• Include a space after a bullet point or full stop on a numbered list.
• Use [X](X and no spaces) to sign off reports.

The reflow fixes some of these issue but not all, please follow them.

Thanks,
Justin

PS I’ve BCC'ed the projects where I had to make the most changes.

Re: Podling Tubemq Report Reminder - February 2020

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

The report is due in 5 days, it's a good idea to start working on the report a 
week before it is due so that feedback can be incorporated into the report. Is 
anyone working on the report?

Thanks,
Justin

Re: The website for Apache TubeMQ(Internet mail)

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Some furthe rminor suggestions:
- Clicking on the Apache logo should take you to apache.org 
- Still think those logos could be bigger
- “everyday” -> “every day”
- "is able to run continuously” -> “can run continuously"

Also see [1] although I’m not sure it parsed the new page yet, I can see that 
security is missing.

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/tubemq

Re: [Help]Justin, how to adjust the contents of the LICENSE file?

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> Justin, I didn’t know how to do it when adjusting the contents of the
> LICENSE file and adding the NOTICE file.

This is the best guide [1]. I have also given talks on it at ApacheCon you 
should be able to find and created a worked example [2] that may help.

All releases need a LICENSE and a NOTICE file. Apache officially releases 
source code only. If you decide to provided a convenance binary for users it 
also needs a LICENSE and NOTICE file but the contents of those files may vary 
from the source release. What matters is what 3rd party software is in the 
release artefact not what the dependancies are.

Thanks,
Justin

1. http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html
2. https://github.com/justinmclean/ApacheWombat

Re: The website for Apache TubeMQ(Internet mail)

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> The website has been move to the 
> repo(https://github.com/apache/incubator-tubemq-website)

Thanks for that, the web site looks good.

I still think more work is needed on the branding and trademark side. Some 
suggestions:
- The Apache logo and the project logo and the incubator logo should be bigger.
- The first mention of TubMQ should be "Apache TubMQ”. Please need to know this 
is an Apache project.
- The incubator disclaimer text is too small to read
- You need to scroll to found out it’s an incubating project

One improvement branding / incubating wise would be to change "TubeMQ, a 
trillion-records-scale distributed messaging queue (MQ) “ to something like 
“Apache TubeMQ (incubating), is a trillion-record-scale….”

Does anyone see any other things that cruel be improved branding wise?

This is also a large button that goes to githiub, this is directing users to 
use unreleased code, please consider another way of doing this. A better way is 
to create a page for developers and put GitHub and mailing list details there, 
users should only be directed to download voted on approved releases only.

Other feedback:
- The text in general is too small and not easy to read
- The image behind the text make it hard to read in places (including the menu)
- It’s 2020 not 2019
- The main image is large and causes performance issues
- Images could be optimised to reduce size / speed up display
- Assets could be cached to improved performance

For performance see [1] it’s currently 67/100.

Thanks,
Justin

1. 
https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftubemq.apache.org%2Fen-us%2F

Re: [Discuss] Design for TubeMQ Official Site(Internet mail)

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> I have modified the website again with having some information about Apache 
> on, please check under 
> this:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ec5rvJuYOiGU4Ysc4yCoNnjuMy_9z5lZ

I think there could be a little confusion with the logo, there a tiny project 
logo up top left and the larger “logo” below it that uses a different front. 
Branding is important, and you want the Apache project logo to be easy 
recognisable on the page. It would be good the add the ASF feather logo linking 
to https://www.apache.org as well. Make it clear this is an ASF project, having 
the word apache there and the incubator disclaimer / logo below the fold may 
not make it as clear as it needs to be.Some podling sites or even top level 
sites do this poorly, so they may not be the best examples to copy from.

For instance Pulsar is IMO not a good example to copy from, On the home page 
[1] there's no ASF branding, other companies logos are on the page, there a 
link to encourage users to use unreleased code. The download page is promoting 
binaries over source releases. The powered by page is misleading as companies 
don’t contribute to the project individuals do.

I mot sure if you can see this [2] but Pulsar is currently passing 4 or the 
required 10 checks. The podling web site checks can be found here [3]

This design may be resource heavy, we’ve had some issues with heavy designs 
hosting an ASF Infrastructure and performance issues with them being viewed 
inside China. There been some experiments with CDNs but I’m not sure if the 
issue has been solved. That specific issue aside I would try and keep the page 
size down / time to initial draw down so it can be easily viewed anywhere in 
the world and work on low bandwidth connections.

It also a good idea to leave a place holder for the apache event banner.

Where is it is intended that the download button goes or what will it download?

What does Apache Pulsar (in the footer/disclaimer text) have to do with TubeMQ? 
(I assume some information was copied from there?)

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://pulsar.apache.org
2. https://whimsy.apache.org/site/
3. https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/

Re: Bootstrapping process

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Yes those are all important next steps as well.

There also what are going to do about this?
https://github.com/Tencent/TubeMQ

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new repository for website?

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Thanks for that information.

> Currently the development of website is in design phase and the only
> intermediate result is a conceptual product that bebe attach on this
> thread[1]. The code work doesn't happen until we reach consensus of the
> element that should be displayed.

I assume you can see the conflict with doing this offlist and having the PPMC 
reach consensus / involving all of the PPMC in the process?

Thanks,
Justin

Bootstrapping process

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

A couple of weeks back I posted an email asking about progress of this podling.

I can see a lot of work has been done but there still some more to do:

- Submitting the software grant?
This doesn’t seem to have been submitted yet, is that correct?

- Moving the repos over to ASF infrastructure.
Work was done on this before the SGA was submitted. This is not ideal.

- Moving the website over to ASF infrastructure
I’ve got conflicting information on what happening here. There is development 
off list and a POC being shown onlist. I’ve received no answer about the 
incubator requirements for this website or where this work is being done.

- Having all PPMC members sign ICLAs
I believe this has been completed.

- Adding all PPMC members to the roster
I believe this has been completed.

- Having all PPMC members signed up to the private list
A couple of PPMC members are still not signed up.

Anyone add anything to the above?

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new repository for website?

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> There hasn't been a code development so far. However, we can put the
> conceptual product in the repository.

A week ago I was told that it hopefully would take a week to be deployed? I 
guess that’s not the case?

I was also told development was being conducted in another repo. When I ask for 
that repo's URL none was given.

Do either this development is taking place elsewhere or is not. Which is it? We 
need clear communication on this list what is happening, it hard for mentors to 
help if their questions are not answered, conversations are not happening on 
this list or development is happening elsewhere.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: The website for Apache TubeMQ(Internet mail)

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

The development should to occur in an ASF repo, this has been set up, please 
move the development to that repo.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new repository for website?

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Despite the repo being setup it seems that the development of the website is 
still occurring elsewhere.

What is the PPMC going to do to correct this situation?

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [Discuss] Design for TubeMQ Official Site(Internet mail)

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> Some optimizations have been done for the first page, including using Apache 
> TubeMQ instead of TubeMQ and putting the Gitbub link on. Please check under 
> this link https://drive.google.com/open?id=10fXqNaXX4upsKPlGGFQ4eSmR55PwSS-n.

Please read the link I posted previously about teh requirements for an 
incubating website, I can see a number of things missing.

The first question to ask yourself it is this obvious that it’s an Apache 
project? Or an incubating one?

Thanks,
Justin

Wiki spam

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

I just removed a couple of spam pages from the wiki.

Sadly that why we can’t have nice things.

 I adjusted the permissions so that ordinary users can view pages, but not add 
new pages, any TubeMQ committer or TubeMQ PPMC member can add new pages.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new repository for website?

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

>Now the official website for Apache TubeMQ is under development. shall
> we create a new repository(incubator-tubemq-website.git) for official
> website?  or use incubator-tubemq.git ?

Created for you:
https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-tubemq-website.git

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [URGENT] Re: Project bootstrapping

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> I'm really sorry for the delay of the SGA.
> 
> The legal affairs department of the company is still reviewing the SGA,
> I've pushed them to review the SGA as soon as possible.

But it seem the code has been transferred to the ASF repos before this is done 
and before the ICLAs have been signed. This is problematic.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Project bootstrapping(Internet mail)

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> The development is still undergoing on my personal repo,

What is the public URL of this repo? The development of the web site should be 
a collaborative effort, it needs to be in the open where anyone can contribute. 
It needs to be done on ASF infrastructure.

A suggestion: The best course of action would be to transfer it to an ASF repo 
and work on it there before it is finished.

There are also a number of requirements that podling sites need to follow [1]

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html

Re: [URGENT] Re: Project bootstrapping

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> The website is under developing by Zak and FYI this thread[1].

Which still doesn't answer either of the questions.

Thanks,
Justin

[URGENT] Re: Project bootstrapping

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> >> - Moving the repos over to ASF infrastructure 
> > Done
> This cannot be done until the SGA has been signed.

Again why has this not been addressed? Can someone please answer this.

> > The TubeMQ website is still under development 
> Where is this development happening? Why is this development not happening in 
> an ASF repo?

Again no answer? Why is this? The PPMC needs to be responsive to questions 
asked by mentors.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Change TubeMQ's License to use Apache License V2 and enable RAT check

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> @Saisai Shao, this change will modify all the files, so I think it would be
> a better way to ask everyone's opinions in the email and then mention a
> JIRA.

Please do not change the header until the SGA have been submitted and all ICLA 
have been submitted.

We also need to make sure that no 3rd party files change headers.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: The website for Apache TubeMQ(Internet mail)

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> We have designed the first version of the official website and are optimizing 
> it. We hope to deploy it before next weekend.

Where is this being developed? (I asked before but got no answer).

Thanks,
Justin

Re: PR title format

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

While it's good to look at what other projects do, please remember:
- They are top level projects and they may do things in a way for their own 
particular reasons
- They may not be aware of recent changes in policy
- What works for one project may not be be the best for another project or it’s 
community
- It best if you work out the best way for your project and community and what 
works for you and what doesn't

Spark, while popular, is not an exemplary example for podlings to copy for a 
number of reasons, so please take care when looking at these projects.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [MENTORS] Create a new mail list

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

>  I will to create a new git repository for TubeMQ which need  a new
> mailing list(comm...@tubemq.apache.org) to receive commit informations.

I asked for the mailing list to be created, i usually takes a day or two to 
happen.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: IP clearance

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> I think I can do this work, but I don't have the editing permission of
> the TubMQ wiki[1].

It would be good if these tasks were shared among the PPMC members or work on 
collaboratively.

>  Can you open the permission for me? Thank you

Fixed.  All TubeMQ committer and PPMC members now have permission to add/edit 
pages.

Thanks,
Justin

IP clearance

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

I notice there's 25 contributors to the TubeMQ repo, in general it’s a good 
idea to get ICLAs from all major contributors. This needs to be done before the 
repos are transferred to the ASF. 

Can someone create a document in the TubMQ wiki [1] that lists all contributors 
and if we have a signed ICLA from them). Here’s an example from SkyWalking [2]

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUBEMQ
2. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SKYWALKING/IP+Clearance

Re: Project bootstrapping

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

>> - Moving the repos over to ASF infrastructure
> 
> Done

This cannot be done until the SGA has been signed.

>> - Moving the website over to ASF infrastructure
> 
> The TubeMQ website is still under development

Where is this development happening? Why is this development not happening in 
an ASF repo?

Thanks,
Justin

Re: PPMC/committer responsibilities

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> My preferred apache id is yihengw

I requested an account for you, it will take a couple of days for it to be 
created.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Project bootstrapping

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

>Can you add me to the PPMC list [1]? My ID is gxcheng, I will complete
> some of the above tasks.

Done.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: PPMC/committer responsibilities

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> I have submitted my ICLA to secret...@apache.org 
>  two weeks ago. 

Great. As described in that email, have you provided the TubeMQ PPMC with your 
preferred apache id?

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Project bootstrapping

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Can anyone help answer this? We have 18 PPMC members on this project. What are 
each of you doing to help move this project to the ASF?

Thanks,
Justin

Mentor responsibility and onlist communication

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Your mentors are here to help, but we cannot help you if you don’t communicate 
on this list. The PPMC needs to take responsibility for the tasks of moving 
things to the ASF, please see my previous email(s) on what tasks tasks I think 
still need to be completed, you need to show progress on these tasks. I suggest 
you stop working on the codebase until these tasks are complete. If any PPMC 
member wants to take responsibility for a task just respond with what you are 
willing to do in my other email. If you need help on any of the setup task 
please ask here and tag the subject with [MENTORS].

Thanks,
Justin

PPMC/committer responsibilities

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

This are people on the PPMC of this project that as far as I can tell not 
signed an ICLA:
• Goson Zhang
• Jie Jiang
• Junjie Chen
• Kayne Wu
• Lamber Liu
• Osgoo Li
• Peng Chen(?)
• Yiheng Wang
• Yuhong Liu
• Zak Wu

I assume these people still want to be initial committers and on the PPMC? If 
so what’s the hold up on getting this done? Please reply here once you have 
done the paperwork. [1]

Of the people or so who already had signed an ICLA why (for the most part) you 
need to be added to the PPMC roster and sign up to the private email address. 
Not many have done so, important email are sent to that list and it is a 
requirement that all PPMC members have signed up.

I suggest that all of the initial committers (if they have not done so) read 
what the responsibilities of a PPMC are [2].

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://www.apache.org/licenses/contributor-agreements.html
2. http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html

Re: Podling Tubemq Report Reminder - January 2020

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Thanks for submitting the  report but it will not be accepted in it's currently 
form as it doesn't accurately reflect the current podlings state and what it 
needs to do. Next time I suggest you work on the report in the open before the 
due date.

You have user the three most important unfinished issues to address before 
graduating:
1. Grow the community to involve more contributors and increase the diversity.
2. Polish the code and document to satisfy the Apache way.
3. Publish the Apache release.

There are far more serious matters that need to be sorted out before those are 
addressed. Number one being moving conversation to this mailing list.

Under "Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of?" 
you have said "No" this is incorrect.

Under "How has the community developed since the last report?" you mention PRs 
and commits but the repos have not moved to the ASF yet so how is this possible?

User "How has the project developed since the last report?" you mention working 
on the first release and website. I see no conversation of this on list or any 
work towards those gaols. http://tubemq.apache.org currently gives 404 not 
found.

Please rewrite the report to accurately reflect where the podling currently is 
and what issues it faces.

Thanks,
Justin

Project bootstrapping

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Again there seems to a be a lack on discussion on list about this, without this 
conversation (requested several times nows) we cannot help you.

Can the PPMC please respond and tell me where they are up to with:
- Submitting the software grant
- Moving the repos over to ASF infrastructure
- Moving the website over to ASF infrastructure
- Having all PPMC members sign ICLAs
- Adding all PPMC members to the roster
- Having all PPMC members signed up to the private list
- Moving off list communication to this list

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Podling Tubemq Report Reminder - January 2020

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> I have pinged the team and they should reply soon.

How and where is this off list communication happening? This has been asked 
several times and no answer has been supplied. Has it been made clear to the 
project that communication and decisions needs to happen on this mailing list? 
I understand it may take time to move towards that, but the project needs to 
show signs of doing so, more so than they currently have, otherwise they may 
need to explain to the IPMC why they should be an incubating project.

Without communication on this list the mentors and the IPMC can't help the 
project. Without communication on this list this project going to find it hard 
to grow it's community. Without communication on this list the project will not 
graduate.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Podling Tubemq Report Reminder - January 2020

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> For the first time, report get missing is because we haven't setup dev
> list ready so PPMCs hasn't been notified - I believe IPMCs also not get
> notified for some reason. So I think this should be the first time that
> counts - because most of PPMCs were on vacation due to holidays.

The podling has had ample notice. The mentors should be following the incubator 
general list and be reading the IPMC report. The mentors should know that a 
podling needs to report monthly for the first 3 months. I personally reached 
out to the projects mentors asking for an explanation a month ago. Questions 
about this project have gone unanswered on the incubator general list. This 
issue has been mentioned in two IPMC reports now. What more needs to be done 
before the podling or it’s mentors takes notice?  During setup the podling 
still has to report, even if that’s to explain why things have not been setup 
yet.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Podling Tubemq Report Reminder - January 2020

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

This is the second report in a row the project has missed, one missed report is 
OK, two are cause for concern, three and you may be kicked out of the 
Incubator. I can see that you are still moving resources to the incubator and 
start up here has been slow. You need to provide the IPMC with oversight to how 
the project is going and what issues it is facing and still need to submit 
reports in the start up phase.

It seems to me that some of your mentors are missing, if this is the case 
please mention this in your report. I've reached out to them (on the private 
list) and if they don't reply they will be removed and other mentors found to 
replace them.

I suggest you discuss on this list what is need to move the project over, I'm 
not seeing a lot of communication on these lists, and it seems that some 
communication is currently occurring elsewhere. Please fix this.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Podling Tubemq Report Reminder - January 2020

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,
Just a friendly reminder that this report is due today, is anyone working on it?
Thanks,
Justin