Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-03-05 Thread 申远
Already done.

https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex/projects/1?add_cards_query=is%3Aopen

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Jan Piotrowski  于2019年3月5日周二 下午7:22写道:

> Great that we are on the same page here.
>
> Could someone from the PMC please request a project board on Github
> being created at https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex/projects so
> I can create a space to track all these TODO items regarding
> incubation, compliance etc? We don't want to miss anything there.
> Thanks.
>
> -J
>
> Am Di., 5. März 2019 um 07:33 Uhr schrieb Dan :
> >
> > > Technically speaking, I or other Weex PPMC are not the owner of
> weex.io,
> > I can not ask EMAS team uses another domain as weex.io is not under my
> or
> > other PPMC's control.
> >
> > Yes, this domain name is currently managed in my hands. On the
> construction
> > of this website, the EMAS team gave us a lot of construction assistance,
> so
> > we provided a subdomain `emas.weex.io` to give the EMAS team to deploy
> > their official website.
> >
> >
> > > Actually, I think
> >
> https://cn.aliyun.com/solution/emas?spm=a2c7j.-zh-community-biz-emas.0.0.5daac8eecHbyWI
> > already is an external website for EMAS - so this can probably just be
> > listed under "Tools using Apache Weex" on the new Apache Weex website.
> >
> > That's ok, I will deploy a page to show this content, all
> > the  not-really-Apache-Weex things will put on this page, but for the
> time
> > being, the EMAS page may be mounted on `emas.weex.io` until a more
> suitable
> > domain name is found, and I will also push them to learn Apache Cordova
> and
> > Adobe Phonegap to re-edit the page content, I think it will take a
> certain
> > amount of time, and I can’t do it right away.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> > 申远  于2019年3月4日周一 下午8:49写道:
> >
> > > Technically speaking, I or other Weex PPMC are not the owner of
> weex.io,
> > > I can not ask EMAS team uses another domain as weex.io is not under
> my or
> > > other PPMC's control.
> > >
> > > Actually, I think Dan may have the admin privilege of weex.io.
> > >
> > > What do you think, Dan?
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > YorkShen
> > >
> > > 申远
> > >
> > >
> > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年3月1日周五 下午6:19写道:
> > >
> > >> Actually, I think
> > >>
> > >>
> https://cn.aliyun.com/solution/emas?spm=a2c7j.-zh-community-biz-emas.0.0.5daac8eecHbyWI
> > >> already is an external website for EMAS - so this can probably just be
> > >> listed under "Tools using Apache Weex" on the new Apache Weex website.
> > >>
> > >> Am Fr., 1. März 2019 um 11:17 Uhr schrieb Jan Piotrowski <
> > >> piotrow...@gmail.com>:
> > >> >
> > >> > I understood that, and that is exactly why EMAS can not be under one
> > >> > of the official domains being used for Apache Weex. As weex.io is a
> > >> > plain redirect, it will be considered as "part of Apache Weex" by
> the
> > >> > users. If EMAS uses the same domain, users will make the same
> > >> > assumption here - which is not true.
> > >> >
> > >> > The content from http://emas.weex.io/zh/community/biz-emas.html
> should
> > >> > be extracted into its own website that does not share anything with
> > >> > the Apache Weex project website. Something non Apache-Weex can't
> just
> > >> > copy the whole website and add a few pages, as this will greatly
> > >> > confuse users. (If EMAS was historically available under that
> domain,
> > >> > of course all the old links can be redirected to its new domains so
> > >> > they keep working.)
> > >> >
> > >> > EMAS can (and should! it's awesome something like that exists) of
> > >> > course be listed on the official Apache Weex website as "enterprise
> > >> > mobile development solution based on Apache Weex" or similar.
> > >> >
> > >> > Take Apache Cordova and Adobe Phonegap as an example. Apache Cordova
> > >> > is https://cordova.apache.org/. Phonegap is https://phonegap.com/
> and
> > >> > builds on Apache Cordova. It mentions Cordova on its website and
> links
> > >> > to Apache Cordova.
> > >> >
> > >> > But as with all other not-really-Apache-Weex things, the
> > >> > differentiation has to be made 100% clear. Ther should be no
> confusion
> > >> > for users what is _Apache_ Weex and what is tools for or other
> > >> > software built on Weex.
> > >> >
> > >> > -J
> > >> >
> > >> > Am Fr., 1. März 2019 um 03:16 Uhr schrieb 申远  >:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Technically speaking, EMAS is an enterprise mobile develop
> solution
> > >> based
> > >> > > on weex, and I think the target users of EMAS are Chinese.
> Actually,
> > >> there
> > >> > > is an entry[1] for EMAS in Chinese document. Besides that, there
> is no
> > >> > > difference between http://weex.apache.org and
> http://emas.weex.io/ .
> > >> > >
> > >> > > And Weex projcet always declared that http://weex.apache.org or
> > >> > > http://weex.io are the official homepage.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > [1] http://emas.weex.io/zh/community/biz-emas.html
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Best Regards,
> > >> > > YorkShen
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 申远
> > 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-03-05 Thread Jan Piotrowski
Great that we are on the same page here.

Could someone from the PMC please request a project board on Github
being created at https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex/projects so
I can create a space to track all these TODO items regarding
incubation, compliance etc? We don't want to miss anything there.
Thanks.

-J

Am Di., 5. März 2019 um 07:33 Uhr schrieb Dan :
>
> > Technically speaking, I or other Weex PPMC are not the owner of weex.io,
> I can not ask EMAS team uses another domain as weex.io is not under my or
> other PPMC's control.
>
> Yes, this domain name is currently managed in my hands. On the construction
> of this website, the EMAS team gave us a lot of construction assistance, so
> we provided a subdomain `emas.weex.io` to give the EMAS team to deploy
> their official website.
>
>
> > Actually, I think
> https://cn.aliyun.com/solution/emas?spm=a2c7j.-zh-community-biz-emas.0.0.5daac8eecHbyWI
> already is an external website for EMAS - so this can probably just be
> listed under "Tools using Apache Weex" on the new Apache Weex website.
>
> That's ok, I will deploy a page to show this content, all
> the  not-really-Apache-Weex things will put on this page, but for the time
> being, the EMAS page may be mounted on `emas.weex.io` until a more suitable
> domain name is found, and I will also push them to learn Apache Cordova and
> Adobe Phonegap to re-edit the page content, I think it will take a certain
> amount of time, and I can’t do it right away.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
> 申远  于2019年3月4日周一 下午8:49写道:
>
> > Technically speaking, I or other Weex PPMC are not the owner of weex.io,
> > I can not ask EMAS team uses another domain as weex.io is not under my or
> > other PPMC's control.
> >
> > Actually, I think Dan may have the admin privilege of weex.io.
> >
> > What do you think, Dan?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > YorkShen
> >
> > 申远
> >
> >
> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年3月1日周五 下午6:19写道:
> >
> >> Actually, I think
> >>
> >> https://cn.aliyun.com/solution/emas?spm=a2c7j.-zh-community-biz-emas.0.0.5daac8eecHbyWI
> >> already is an external website for EMAS - so this can probably just be
> >> listed under "Tools using Apache Weex" on the new Apache Weex website.
> >>
> >> Am Fr., 1. März 2019 um 11:17 Uhr schrieb Jan Piotrowski <
> >> piotrow...@gmail.com>:
> >> >
> >> > I understood that, and that is exactly why EMAS can not be under one
> >> > of the official domains being used for Apache Weex. As weex.io is a
> >> > plain redirect, it will be considered as "part of Apache Weex" by the
> >> > users. If EMAS uses the same domain, users will make the same
> >> > assumption here - which is not true.
> >> >
> >> > The content from http://emas.weex.io/zh/community/biz-emas.html should
> >> > be extracted into its own website that does not share anything with
> >> > the Apache Weex project website. Something non Apache-Weex can't just
> >> > copy the whole website and add a few pages, as this will greatly
> >> > confuse users. (If EMAS was historically available under that domain,
> >> > of course all the old links can be redirected to its new domains so
> >> > they keep working.)
> >> >
> >> > EMAS can (and should! it's awesome something like that exists) of
> >> > course be listed on the official Apache Weex website as "enterprise
> >> > mobile development solution based on Apache Weex" or similar.
> >> >
> >> > Take Apache Cordova and Adobe Phonegap as an example. Apache Cordova
> >> > is https://cordova.apache.org/. Phonegap is https://phonegap.com/ and
> >> > builds on Apache Cordova. It mentions Cordova on its website and links
> >> > to Apache Cordova.
> >> >
> >> > But as with all other not-really-Apache-Weex things, the
> >> > differentiation has to be made 100% clear. Ther should be no confusion
> >> > for users what is _Apache_ Weex and what is tools for or other
> >> > software built on Weex.
> >> >
> >> > -J
> >> >
> >> > Am Fr., 1. März 2019 um 03:16 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> >> > >
> >> > > Technically speaking, EMAS is an enterprise mobile develop solution
> >> based
> >> > > on weex, and I think the target users of EMAS are Chinese. Actually,
> >> there
> >> > > is an entry[1] for EMAS in Chinese document. Besides that, there is no
> >> > > difference between http://weex.apache.org and http://emas.weex.io/ .
> >> > >
> >> > > And Weex projcet always declared that http://weex.apache.org or
> >> > > http://weex.io are the official homepage.
> >> > >
> >> > > [1] http://emas.weex.io/zh/community/biz-emas.html
> >> > >
> >> > > Best Regards,
> >> > > YorkShen
> >> > >
> >> > > 申远
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月28日周四 下午10:08写道:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I don't understand.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > A "commercial eco system for weex" should not just mirror the
> >> complete
> >> > > > site, even (and especially!) if they add their own things.
> >> > > > Right now I have no idea what this really is when I go there, so
> >> this
> >> > > > should definitely be cleaned up.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -J
> >> > 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-03-04 Thread Dan
> Technically speaking, I or other Weex PPMC are not the owner of weex.io,
I can not ask EMAS team uses another domain as weex.io is not under my or
other PPMC's control.

Yes, this domain name is currently managed in my hands. On the construction
of this website, the EMAS team gave us a lot of construction assistance, so
we provided a subdomain `emas.weex.io` to give the EMAS team to deploy
their official website.


> Actually, I think
https://cn.aliyun.com/solution/emas?spm=a2c7j.-zh-community-biz-emas.0.0.5daac8eecHbyWI
already is an external website for EMAS - so this can probably just be
listed under "Tools using Apache Weex" on the new Apache Weex website.

That's ok, I will deploy a page to show this content, all
the  not-really-Apache-Weex things will put on this page, but for the time
being, the EMAS page may be mounted on `emas.weex.io` until a more suitable
domain name is found, and I will also push them to learn Apache Cordova and
Adobe Phonegap to re-edit the page content, I think it will take a certain
amount of time, and I can’t do it right away.

Thanks,
Dan

申远  于2019年3月4日周一 下午8:49写道:

> Technically speaking, I or other Weex PPMC are not the owner of weex.io,
> I can not ask EMAS team uses another domain as weex.io is not under my or
> other PPMC's control.
>
> Actually, I think Dan may have the admin privilege of weex.io.
>
> What do you think, Dan?
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远
>
>
> Jan Piotrowski  于2019年3月1日周五 下午6:19写道:
>
>> Actually, I think
>>
>> https://cn.aliyun.com/solution/emas?spm=a2c7j.-zh-community-biz-emas.0.0.5daac8eecHbyWI
>> already is an external website for EMAS - so this can probably just be
>> listed under "Tools using Apache Weex" on the new Apache Weex website.
>>
>> Am Fr., 1. März 2019 um 11:17 Uhr schrieb Jan Piotrowski <
>> piotrow...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > I understood that, and that is exactly why EMAS can not be under one
>> > of the official domains being used for Apache Weex. As weex.io is a
>> > plain redirect, it will be considered as "part of Apache Weex" by the
>> > users. If EMAS uses the same domain, users will make the same
>> > assumption here - which is not true.
>> >
>> > The content from http://emas.weex.io/zh/community/biz-emas.html should
>> > be extracted into its own website that does not share anything with
>> > the Apache Weex project website. Something non Apache-Weex can't just
>> > copy the whole website and add a few pages, as this will greatly
>> > confuse users. (If EMAS was historically available under that domain,
>> > of course all the old links can be redirected to its new domains so
>> > they keep working.)
>> >
>> > EMAS can (and should! it's awesome something like that exists) of
>> > course be listed on the official Apache Weex website as "enterprise
>> > mobile development solution based on Apache Weex" or similar.
>> >
>> > Take Apache Cordova and Adobe Phonegap as an example. Apache Cordova
>> > is https://cordova.apache.org/. Phonegap is https://phonegap.com/ and
>> > builds on Apache Cordova. It mentions Cordova on its website and links
>> > to Apache Cordova.
>> >
>> > But as with all other not-really-Apache-Weex things, the
>> > differentiation has to be made 100% clear. Ther should be no confusion
>> > for users what is _Apache_ Weex and what is tools for or other
>> > software built on Weex.
>> >
>> > -J
>> >
>> > Am Fr., 1. März 2019 um 03:16 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
>> > >
>> > > Technically speaking, EMAS is an enterprise mobile develop solution
>> based
>> > > on weex, and I think the target users of EMAS are Chinese. Actually,
>> there
>> > > is an entry[1] for EMAS in Chinese document. Besides that, there is no
>> > > difference between http://weex.apache.org and http://emas.weex.io/ .
>> > >
>> > > And Weex projcet always declared that http://weex.apache.org or
>> > > http://weex.io are the official homepage.
>> > >
>> > > [1] http://emas.weex.io/zh/community/biz-emas.html
>> > >
>> > > Best Regards,
>> > > YorkShen
>> > >
>> > > 申远
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月28日周四 下午10:08写道:
>> > >
>> > > > I don't understand.
>> > > >
>> > > > A "commercial eco system for weex" should not just mirror the
>> complete
>> > > > site, even (and especially!) if they add their own things.
>> > > > Right now I have no idea what this really is when I go there, so
>> this
>> > > > should definitely be cleaned up.
>> > > >
>> > > > -J
>> > > >
>> > > > Am Do., 28. Feb. 2019 um 04:24 Uhr schrieb 申远 > >:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > EMAS is a commercial eco-system for weex, so this url[1] should
>> not be
>> > > > > redirected to https:/weex.apache.org
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have talked to guys of EMAS, they are using the source code of
>> > > > > incubator-weex-site [2] and some third-party content to build the
>> > > > website,
>> > > > > while weex only use incubator-weex-site [2]
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [1] http://emas.weex.io/
>> > > > > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best Regards,
>> 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-03-04 Thread 申远
Technically speaking, I or other Weex PPMC are not the owner of weex.io, I
can not ask EMAS team uses another domain as weex.io is not under my or
other PPMC's control.

Actually, I think Dan may have the admin privilege of weex.io.

What do you think, Dan?

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Jan Piotrowski  于2019年3月1日周五 下午6:19写道:

> Actually, I think
>
> https://cn.aliyun.com/solution/emas?spm=a2c7j.-zh-community-biz-emas.0.0.5daac8eecHbyWI
> already is an external website for EMAS - so this can probably just be
> listed under "Tools using Apache Weex" on the new Apache Weex website.
>
> Am Fr., 1. März 2019 um 11:17 Uhr schrieb Jan Piotrowski <
> piotrow...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > I understood that, and that is exactly why EMAS can not be under one
> > of the official domains being used for Apache Weex. As weex.io is a
> > plain redirect, it will be considered as "part of Apache Weex" by the
> > users. If EMAS uses the same domain, users will make the same
> > assumption here - which is not true.
> >
> > The content from http://emas.weex.io/zh/community/biz-emas.html should
> > be extracted into its own website that does not share anything with
> > the Apache Weex project website. Something non Apache-Weex can't just
> > copy the whole website and add a few pages, as this will greatly
> > confuse users. (If EMAS was historically available under that domain,
> > of course all the old links can be redirected to its new domains so
> > they keep working.)
> >
> > EMAS can (and should! it's awesome something like that exists) of
> > course be listed on the official Apache Weex website as "enterprise
> > mobile development solution based on Apache Weex" or similar.
> >
> > Take Apache Cordova and Adobe Phonegap as an example. Apache Cordova
> > is https://cordova.apache.org/. Phonegap is https://phonegap.com/ and
> > builds on Apache Cordova. It mentions Cordova on its website and links
> > to Apache Cordova.
> >
> > But as with all other not-really-Apache-Weex things, the
> > differentiation has to be made 100% clear. Ther should be no confusion
> > for users what is _Apache_ Weex and what is tools for or other
> > software built on Weex.
> >
> > -J
> >
> > Am Fr., 1. März 2019 um 03:16 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > >
> > > Technically speaking, EMAS is an enterprise mobile develop solution
> based
> > > on weex, and I think the target users of EMAS are Chinese. Actually,
> there
> > > is an entry[1] for EMAS in Chinese document. Besides that, there is no
> > > difference between http://weex.apache.org and http://emas.weex.io/ .
> > >
> > > And Weex projcet always declared that http://weex.apache.org or
> > > http://weex.io are the official homepage.
> > >
> > > [1] http://emas.weex.io/zh/community/biz-emas.html
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > YorkShen
> > >
> > > 申远
> > >
> > >
> > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月28日周四 下午10:08写道:
> > >
> > > > I don't understand.
> > > >
> > > > A "commercial eco system for weex" should not just mirror the
> complete
> > > > site, even (and especially!) if they add their own things.
> > > > Right now I have no idea what this really is when I go there, so this
> > > > should definitely be cleaned up.
> > > >
> > > > -J
> > > >
> > > > Am Do., 28. Feb. 2019 um 04:24 Uhr schrieb 申远  >:
> > > > >
> > > > > EMAS is a commercial eco-system for weex, so this url[1] should
> not be
> > > > > redirected to https:/weex.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > I have talked to guys of EMAS, they are using the source code of
> > > > > incubator-weex-site [2] and some third-party content to build the
> > > > website,
> > > > > while weex only use incubator-weex-site [2]
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] http://emas.weex.io/
> > > > > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > YorkShen
> > > > >
> > > > > 申远
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月28日周四 上午5:37写道:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nice!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just found http://emas.weex.io/ which is not redirecting yet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > J
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am Mi., 27. Feb. 2019 um 07:00 Uhr schrieb 申远 <
> shenyua...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://weex-project.io is also redirected to
> http://weex.apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Except for the following issue, I think we have done the
> relaunch
> > > > > > procedure
> > > > > > > of website:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >- Google Search Console Account
> > > > > > >- Redirect http://weex.apache.org to
> https://weex.apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > YorkShen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 申远
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dan  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:53写道:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The server should just be a Apache webserver (of course!)
> that
> > > > can
> > > > > > > > accept .htaccess files to redirect non-http requests.
> > > > > > > > Super complicated example from Cordova:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-03-01 Thread Jan Piotrowski
Actually, I think
https://cn.aliyun.com/solution/emas?spm=a2c7j.-zh-community-biz-emas.0.0.5daac8eecHbyWI
already is an external website for EMAS - so this can probably just be
listed under "Tools using Apache Weex" on the new Apache Weex website.

Am Fr., 1. März 2019 um 11:17 Uhr schrieb Jan Piotrowski :
>
> I understood that, and that is exactly why EMAS can not be under one
> of the official domains being used for Apache Weex. As weex.io is a
> plain redirect, it will be considered as "part of Apache Weex" by the
> users. If EMAS uses the same domain, users will make the same
> assumption here - which is not true.
>
> The content from http://emas.weex.io/zh/community/biz-emas.html should
> be extracted into its own website that does not share anything with
> the Apache Weex project website. Something non Apache-Weex can't just
> copy the whole website and add a few pages, as this will greatly
> confuse users. (If EMAS was historically available under that domain,
> of course all the old links can be redirected to its new domains so
> they keep working.)
>
> EMAS can (and should! it's awesome something like that exists) of
> course be listed on the official Apache Weex website as "enterprise
> mobile development solution based on Apache Weex" or similar.
>
> Take Apache Cordova and Adobe Phonegap as an example. Apache Cordova
> is https://cordova.apache.org/. Phonegap is https://phonegap.com/ and
> builds on Apache Cordova. It mentions Cordova on its website and links
> to Apache Cordova.
>
> But as with all other not-really-Apache-Weex things, the
> differentiation has to be made 100% clear. Ther should be no confusion
> for users what is _Apache_ Weex and what is tools for or other
> software built on Weex.
>
> -J
>
> Am Fr., 1. März 2019 um 03:16 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> >
> > Technically speaking, EMAS is an enterprise mobile develop solution based
> > on weex, and I think the target users of EMAS are Chinese. Actually, there
> > is an entry[1] for EMAS in Chinese document. Besides that, there is no
> > difference between http://weex.apache.org and http://emas.weex.io/ .
> >
> > And Weex projcet always declared that http://weex.apache.org or
> > http://weex.io are the official homepage.
> >
> > [1] http://emas.weex.io/zh/community/biz-emas.html
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > YorkShen
> >
> > 申远
> >
> >
> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月28日周四 下午10:08写道:
> >
> > > I don't understand.
> > >
> > > A "commercial eco system for weex" should not just mirror the complete
> > > site, even (and especially!) if they add their own things.
> > > Right now I have no idea what this really is when I go there, so this
> > > should definitely be cleaned up.
> > >
> > > -J
> > >
> > > Am Do., 28. Feb. 2019 um 04:24 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > > >
> > > > EMAS is a commercial eco-system for weex, so this url[1] should not be
> > > > redirected to https:/weex.apache.org
> > > >
> > > > I have talked to guys of EMAS, they are using the source code of
> > > > incubator-weex-site [2] and some third-party content to build the
> > > website,
> > > > while weex only use incubator-weex-site [2]
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://emas.weex.io/
> > > > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > YorkShen
> > > >
> > > > 申远
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月28日周四 上午5:37写道:
> > > >
> > > > > Nice!
> > > > >
> > > > > Just found http://emas.weex.io/ which is not redirecting yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > J
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Mi., 27. Feb. 2019 um 07:00 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://weex-project.io is also redirected to http://weex.apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Except for the following issue, I think we have done the relaunch
> > > > > procedure
> > > > > > of website:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >- Google Search Console Account
> > > > > >- Redirect http://weex.apache.org to https://weex.apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > YorkShen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 申远
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dan  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:53写道:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The server should just be a Apache webserver (of course!) that
> > > can
> > > > > > > accept .htaccess files to redirect non-http requests.
> > > > > > > Super complicated example from Cordova:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/blob/3c41a7d14192eb26c883c65fc63be303f811474e/www/.htaccess#L118-L130
> > > > > > > There should be much easier ways to achieve this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will take a look and try to make weex.apache.org work with
> > > non-http.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 申远  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:08写道:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The check has passed now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > YorkShen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 申远
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-03-01 Thread Jan Piotrowski
I understood that, and that is exactly why EMAS can not be under one
of the official domains being used for Apache Weex. As weex.io is a
plain redirect, it will be considered as "part of Apache Weex" by the
users. If EMAS uses the same domain, users will make the same
assumption here - which is not true.

The content from http://emas.weex.io/zh/community/biz-emas.html should
be extracted into its own website that does not share anything with
the Apache Weex project website. Something non Apache-Weex can't just
copy the whole website and add a few pages, as this will greatly
confuse users. (If EMAS was historically available under that domain,
of course all the old links can be redirected to its new domains so
they keep working.)

EMAS can (and should! it's awesome something like that exists) of
course be listed on the official Apache Weex website as "enterprise
mobile development solution based on Apache Weex" or similar.

Take Apache Cordova and Adobe Phonegap as an example. Apache Cordova
is https://cordova.apache.org/. Phonegap is https://phonegap.com/ and
builds on Apache Cordova. It mentions Cordova on its website and links
to Apache Cordova.

But as with all other not-really-Apache-Weex things, the
differentiation has to be made 100% clear. Ther should be no confusion
for users what is _Apache_ Weex and what is tools for or other
software built on Weex.

-J

Am Fr., 1. März 2019 um 03:16 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
>
> Technically speaking, EMAS is an enterprise mobile develop solution based
> on weex, and I think the target users of EMAS are Chinese. Actually, there
> is an entry[1] for EMAS in Chinese document. Besides that, there is no
> difference between http://weex.apache.org and http://emas.weex.io/ .
>
> And Weex projcet always declared that http://weex.apache.org or
> http://weex.io are the official homepage.
>
> [1] http://emas.weex.io/zh/community/biz-emas.html
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远
>
>
> Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月28日周四 下午10:08写道:
>
> > I don't understand.
> >
> > A "commercial eco system for weex" should not just mirror the complete
> > site, even (and especially!) if they add their own things.
> > Right now I have no idea what this really is when I go there, so this
> > should definitely be cleaned up.
> >
> > -J
> >
> > Am Do., 28. Feb. 2019 um 04:24 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > >
> > > EMAS is a commercial eco-system for weex, so this url[1] should not be
> > > redirected to https:/weex.apache.org
> > >
> > > I have talked to guys of EMAS, they are using the source code of
> > > incubator-weex-site [2] and some third-party content to build the
> > website,
> > > while weex only use incubator-weex-site [2]
> > >
> > > [1] http://emas.weex.io/
> > > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > YorkShen
> > >
> > > 申远
> > >
> > >
> > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月28日周四 上午5:37写道:
> > >
> > > > Nice!
> > > >
> > > > Just found http://emas.weex.io/ which is not redirecting yet.
> > > >
> > > > J
> > > >
> > > > Am Mi., 27. Feb. 2019 um 07:00 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > > > >
> > > > > http://weex-project.io is also redirected to http://weex.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Except for the following issue, I think we have done the relaunch
> > > > procedure
> > > > > of website:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >- Google Search Console Account
> > > > >- Redirect http://weex.apache.org to https://weex.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > YorkShen
> > > > >
> > > > > 申远
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:53写道:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > The server should just be a Apache webserver (of course!) that
> > can
> > > > > > accept .htaccess files to redirect non-http requests.
> > > > > > Super complicated example from Cordova:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/blob/3c41a7d14192eb26c883c65fc63be303f811474e/www/.htaccess#L118-L130
> > > > > > There should be much easier ways to achieve this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will take a look and try to make weex.apache.org work with
> > non-http.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Dan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 申远  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:08写道:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The check has passed now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > YorkShen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 申远
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following
> > the
> > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > rules.
> > > > > > > > Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need
> > to be
> > > > > > > > addressed before graducation.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Willem Jiang
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > > > > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远 
> > wrote:
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-28 Thread 申远
Technically speaking, EMAS is an enterprise mobile develop solution based
on weex, and I think the target users of EMAS are Chinese. Actually, there
is an entry[1] for EMAS in Chinese document. Besides that, there is no
difference between http://weex.apache.org and http://emas.weex.io/ .

And Weex projcet always declared that http://weex.apache.org or
http://weex.io are the official homepage.

[1] http://emas.weex.io/zh/community/biz-emas.html

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月28日周四 下午10:08写道:

> I don't understand.
>
> A "commercial eco system for weex" should not just mirror the complete
> site, even (and especially!) if they add their own things.
> Right now I have no idea what this really is when I go there, so this
> should definitely be cleaned up.
>
> -J
>
> Am Do., 28. Feb. 2019 um 04:24 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> >
> > EMAS is a commercial eco-system for weex, so this url[1] should not be
> > redirected to https:/weex.apache.org
> >
> > I have talked to guys of EMAS, they are using the source code of
> > incubator-weex-site [2] and some third-party content to build the
> website,
> > while weex only use incubator-weex-site [2]
> >
> > [1] http://emas.weex.io/
> > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > YorkShen
> >
> > 申远
> >
> >
> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月28日周四 上午5:37写道:
> >
> > > Nice!
> > >
> > > Just found http://emas.weex.io/ which is not redirecting yet.
> > >
> > > J
> > >
> > > Am Mi., 27. Feb. 2019 um 07:00 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > > >
> > > > http://weex-project.io is also redirected to http://weex.apache.org
> > > >
> > > > Except for the following issue, I think we have done the relaunch
> > > procedure
> > > > of website:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >- Google Search Console Account
> > > >- Redirect http://weex.apache.org to https://weex.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > YorkShen
> > > >
> > > > 申远
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dan  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:53写道:
> > > >
> > > > > > The server should just be a Apache webserver (of course!) that
> can
> > > > > accept .htaccess files to redirect non-http requests.
> > > > > Super complicated example from Cordova:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/blob/3c41a7d14192eb26c883c65fc63be303f811474e/www/.htaccess#L118-L130
> > > > > There should be much easier ways to achieve this.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will take a look and try to make weex.apache.org work with
> non-http.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > > 申远  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:08写道:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The check has passed now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > YorkShen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 申远
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following
> the
> > > Apache
> > > > > > > rules.
> > > > > > > Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need
> to be
> > > > > > > addressed before graducation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Willem Jiang
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > > > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远 
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyway, I have updated the content of
> https://weex.apache.org/,
> > > > > which
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> > > > > > > > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/ <
> > > https://weex-project.io/>
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > updated yet.*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and
> > > https://weex-project.io/
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure
> > > robots.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is
> > > welcomed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > YorkShen
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 申远
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三
> 下午8:02写道:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as
> > > long as
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > official website is at weex.apache.org.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -J
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 <
> > > > > shenyua...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical
> > > solution
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain
> > > that
> > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-28 Thread Jan Piotrowski
I don't understand.

A "commercial eco system for weex" should not just mirror the complete
site, even (and especially!) if they add their own things.
Right now I have no idea what this really is when I go there, so this
should definitely be cleaned up.

-J

Am Do., 28. Feb. 2019 um 04:24 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
>
> EMAS is a commercial eco-system for weex, so this url[1] should not be
> redirected to https:/weex.apache.org
>
> I have talked to guys of EMAS, they are using the source code of
> incubator-weex-site [2] and some third-party content to build the website,
> while weex only use incubator-weex-site [2]
>
> [1] http://emas.weex.io/
> [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远
>
>
> Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月28日周四 上午5:37写道:
>
> > Nice!
> >
> > Just found http://emas.weex.io/ which is not redirecting yet.
> >
> > J
> >
> > Am Mi., 27. Feb. 2019 um 07:00 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > >
> > > http://weex-project.io is also redirected to http://weex.apache.org
> > >
> > > Except for the following issue, I think we have done the relaunch
> > procedure
> > > of website:
> > >
> > >
> > >- Google Search Console Account
> > >- Redirect http://weex.apache.org to https://weex.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > YorkShen
> > >
> > > 申远
> > >
> > >
> > > Dan  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:53写道:
> > >
> > > > > The server should just be a Apache webserver (of course!) that can
> > > > accept .htaccess files to redirect non-http requests.
> > > > Super complicated example from Cordova:
> > > >
> > > >
> > https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/blob/3c41a7d14192eb26c883c65fc63be303f811474e/www/.htaccess#L118-L130
> > > > There should be much easier ways to achieve this.
> > > >
> > > > I will take a look and try to make weex.apache.org work with non-http.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > > 申远  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:08写道:
> > > >
> > > > > The check has passed now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > YorkShen
> > > > >
> > > > > 申远
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
> > > > >
> > > > > > FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the
> > Apache
> > > > > > rules.
> > > > > > Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to be
> > > > > > addressed before graducation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Willem Jiang
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/,
> > > > which
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> > > > > > > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/ <
> > https://weex-project.io/>
> > > > > is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > updated yet.*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and
> > https://weex-project.io/
> > > > to
> > > > > > > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure
> > robots.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is
> > welcomed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > YorkShen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 申远
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 下午8:02写道:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as
> > long as
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > official website is at weex.apache.org.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -J
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 <
> > > > shenyua...@gmail.com
> > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical
> > solution
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain
> > that
> > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to
> > show the
> > > > > > exact
> > > > > > > > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from
> > search
> > > > > > engines
> > > > > > > > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no
> > real
> > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow
> > > > > > response
> > > > > > > > > > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. Deploying the same content to two different host and
> > domains
> > > > is
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > are planning to do until we understand it may still break one
> > > > > domain
> > > > > > > > rule.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2. 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-27 Thread 申远
EMAS is a commercial eco-system for weex, so this url[1] should not be
redirected to https:/weex.apache.org

I have talked to guys of EMAS, they are using the source code of
incubator-weex-site [2] and some third-party content to build the website,
while weex only use incubator-weex-site [2]

[1] http://emas.weex.io/
[2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月28日周四 上午5:37写道:

> Nice!
>
> Just found http://emas.weex.io/ which is not redirecting yet.
>
> J
>
> Am Mi., 27. Feb. 2019 um 07:00 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> >
> > http://weex-project.io is also redirected to http://weex.apache.org
> >
> > Except for the following issue, I think we have done the relaunch
> procedure
> > of website:
> >
> >
> >- Google Search Console Account
> >- Redirect http://weex.apache.org to https://weex.apache.org
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > YorkShen
> >
> > 申远
> >
> >
> > Dan  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:53写道:
> >
> > > > The server should just be a Apache webserver (of course!) that can
> > > accept .htaccess files to redirect non-http requests.
> > > Super complicated example from Cordova:
> > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/blob/3c41a7d14192eb26c883c65fc63be303f811474e/www/.htaccess#L118-L130
> > > There should be much easier ways to achieve this.
> > >
> > > I will take a look and try to make weex.apache.org work with non-http.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > 申远  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:08写道:
> > >
> > > > The check has passed now.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > YorkShen
> > > >
> > > > 申远
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
> > > >
> > > > > FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the
> Apache
> > > > > rules.
> > > > > Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to be
> > > > > addressed before graducation.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Willem Jiang
> > > > >
> > > > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/,
> > > which
> > > > is
> > > > > > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> > > > > > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/ <
> https://weex-project.io/>
> > > > is
> > > > > not
> > > > > > updated yet.*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and
> https://weex-project.io/
> > > to
> > > > > > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure
> robots.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is
> welcomed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > YorkShen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 申远
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 下午8:02写道:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as
> long as
> > > > the
> > > > > > > official website is at weex.apache.org.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -J
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 <
> > > shenyua...@gmail.com
> > > > >:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical
> solution
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain
> that
> > > can
> > > > > > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to
> show the
> > > > > exact
> > > > > > > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from
> search
> > > > > engines
> > > > > > > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no
> real
> > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow
> > > > > response
> > > > > > > > > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. Deploying the same content to two different host and
> domains
> > > is
> > > > > what
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > are planning to do until we understand it may still break one
> > > > domain
> > > > > > > rule.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2. According to
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872
> > > > ,
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > INFRA have different point of view on separate domain with
> same
> > > > > content.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 3. Personally speaking, I understand a world wide CDN is not
> > > > > practical
> > > > > > > now
> > > > > > > > and sometimes one may give up a better engineer solution due
> to
> > > law
> > > > > > > issue.
> > > > > > > > From user points, we need to give a brief explanation of the
> > > > latency
> > > > > > > > problem.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-27 Thread Jan Piotrowski
Nice!

Just found http://emas.weex.io/ which is not redirecting yet.

J

Am Mi., 27. Feb. 2019 um 07:00 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
>
> http://weex-project.io is also redirected to http://weex.apache.org
>
> Except for the following issue, I think we have done the relaunch procedure
> of website:
>
>
>- Google Search Console Account
>- Redirect http://weex.apache.org to https://weex.apache.org
>
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远
>
>
> Dan  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:53写道:
>
> > > The server should just be a Apache webserver (of course!) that can
> > accept .htaccess files to redirect non-http requests.
> > Super complicated example from Cordova:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/blob/3c41a7d14192eb26c883c65fc63be303f811474e/www/.htaccess#L118-L130
> > There should be much easier ways to achieve this.
> >
> > I will take a look and try to make weex.apache.org work with non-http.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> > 申远  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:08写道:
> >
> > > The check has passed now.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > YorkShen
> > >
> > > 申远
> > >
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
> > >
> > > > FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the Apache
> > > > rules.
> > > > Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to be
> > > > addressed before graducation.
> > > >
> > > > [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Willem Jiang
> > > >
> > > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/,
> > which
> > > is
> > > > > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> > > > > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/ 
> > > is
> > > > not
> > > > > updated yet.*
> > > > >
> > > > > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and https://weex-project.io/
> > to
> > > > > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure robots.
> > > > >
> > > > > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is welcomed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > YorkShen
> > > > >
> > > > > 申远
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 下午8:02写道:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as long as
> > > the
> > > > > > official website is at weex.apache.org.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -J
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 <
> > shenyua...@gmail.com
> > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution
> > > > would
> > > > > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that
> > can
> > > > > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the
> > > > exact
> > > > > > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search
> > > > engines
> > > > > > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real
> > > > problem
> > > > > > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow
> > > > response
> > > > > > > > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. Deploying the same content to two different host and domains
> > is
> > > > what
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > are planning to do until we understand it may still break one
> > > domain
> > > > > > rule.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. According to
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872
> > > ,
> > > > I
> > > > > > think
> > > > > > > INFRA have different point of view on separate domain with same
> > > > content.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3. Personally speaking, I understand a world wide CDN is not
> > > > practical
> > > > > > now
> > > > > > > and sometimes one may give up a better engineer solution due to
> > law
> > > > > > issue.
> > > > > > > From user points, we need to give a brief explanation of the
> > > latency
> > > > > > > problem.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > YorkShen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 申远
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 上午2:24写道:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Uh, the _domain name_ is not actually at all related to the
> > speed
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > the site - the _hosting_ is.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My results for those two domains from Germany, Berlin for
> > > example:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.io
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pinging weex.io [47.75.160.176] with 32 bytes of data:
> > > > > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > > > > Reply from 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-26 Thread 申远
http://weex-project.io is also redirected to http://weex.apache.org

Except for the following issue, I think we have done the relaunch procedure
of website:


   - Google Search Console Account
   - Redirect http://weex.apache.org to https://weex.apache.org


Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Dan  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:53写道:

> > The server should just be a Apache webserver (of course!) that can
> accept .htaccess files to redirect non-http requests.
> Super complicated example from Cordova:
>
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/blob/3c41a7d14192eb26c883c65fc63be303f811474e/www/.htaccess#L118-L130
> There should be much easier ways to achieve this.
>
> I will take a look and try to make weex.apache.org work with non-http.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
> 申远  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:08写道:
>
> > The check has passed now.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > YorkShen
> >
> > 申远
> >
> >
> > Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
> >
> > > FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the Apache
> > > rules.
> > > Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to be
> > > addressed before graducation.
> > >
> > > [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
> > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/,
> which
> > is
> > > > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> > > > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/ 
> > is
> > > not
> > > > updated yet.*
> > > >
> > > > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and https://weex-project.io/
> to
> > > > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure robots.
> > > >
> > > > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is welcomed.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > YorkShen
> > > >
> > > > 申远
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 下午8:02写道:
> > > >
> > > > > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as long as
> > the
> > > > > official website is at weex.apache.org.
> > > > >
> > > > > -J
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 <
> shenyua...@gmail.com
> > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution
> > > would
> > > > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that
> can
> > > > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the
> > > exact
> > > > > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search
> > > engines
> > > > > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real
> > > problem
> > > > > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow
> > > response
> > > > > > > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Deploying the same content to two different host and domains
> is
> > > what
> > > > > we
> > > > > > are planning to do until we understand it may still break one
> > domain
> > > > > rule.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. According to
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872
> > ,
> > > I
> > > > > think
> > > > > > INFRA have different point of view on separate domain with same
> > > content.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. Personally speaking, I understand a world wide CDN is not
> > > practical
> > > > > now
> > > > > > and sometimes one may give up a better engineer solution due to
> law
> > > > > issue.
> > > > > > From user points, we need to give a brief explanation of the
> > latency
> > > > > > problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > YorkShen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 申远
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 上午2:24写道:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Uh, the _domain name_ is not actually at all related to the
> speed
> > > of
> > > > > > > the site - the _hosting_ is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My results for those two domains from Germany, Berlin for
> > example:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.io
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pinging weex.io [47.75.160.176] with 32 bytes of data:
> > > > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=335ms TTL=46
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ping statistics for 47.75.160.176:
> > > > > > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> > > > > > > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> > > > > > > Minimum = 327ms, Maximum = 335ms, Average = 329ms
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pinging weex.apache.org [2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2] 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-26 Thread Dan
> The server should just be a Apache webserver (of course!) that can
accept .htaccess files to redirect non-http requests.
Super complicated example from Cordova:
https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/blob/3c41a7d14192eb26c883c65fc63be303f811474e/www/.htaccess#L118-L130
There should be much easier ways to achieve this.

I will take a look and try to make weex.apache.org work with non-http.

Thanks,
Dan

申远  于2019年2月27日周三 上午11:08写道:

> The check has passed now.
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远
>
>
> Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
>
> > FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the Apache
> > rules.
> > Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to be
> > addressed before graducation.
> >
> > [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
> >
> >
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
> > >
> > > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/, which
> is
> > > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> > > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/ 
> is
> > not
> > > updated yet.*
> > >
> > > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and https://weex-project.io/ to
> > > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure robots.
> > >
> > > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is welcomed.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > YorkShen
> > >
> > > 申远
> > >
> > >
> > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 下午8:02写道:
> > >
> > > > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
> > > >
> > > > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as long as
> the
> > > > official website is at weex.apache.org.
> > > >
> > > > -J
> > > >
> > > > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远  >:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution
> > would
> > > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
> > > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the
> > exact
> > > > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search
> > engines
> > > > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real
> > problem
> > > > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow
> > response
> > > > > > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Deploying the same content to two different host and domains is
> > what
> > > > we
> > > > > are planning to do until we understand it may still break one
> domain
> > > > rule.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. According to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872
> ,
> > I
> > > > think
> > > > > INFRA have different point of view on separate domain with same
> > content.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Personally speaking, I understand a world wide CDN is not
> > practical
> > > > now
> > > > > and sometimes one may give up a better engineer solution due to law
> > > > issue.
> > > > > From user points, we need to give a brief explanation of the
> latency
> > > > > problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > YorkShen
> > > > >
> > > > > 申远
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 上午2:24写道:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Uh, the _domain name_ is not actually at all related to the speed
> > of
> > > > > > the site - the _hosting_ is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My results for those two domains from Germany, Berlin for
> example:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.io
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pinging weex.io [47.75.160.176] with 32 bytes of data:
> > > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=335ms TTL=46
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ping statistics for 47.75.160.176:
> > > > > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> > > > > > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> > > > > > Minimum = 327ms, Maximum = 335ms, Average = 329ms
> > > > > >
> > > > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pinging weex.apache.org [2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2] with 32 bytes of
> > data:
> > > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=49ms
> > > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ping statistics for 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2:
> > > > > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> > > > > > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> > > > > > Minimum = 46ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 46ms
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So you should be aware that the actual problem (Apache server is
> > slow
> > > > > > from China) is a different one that 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-26 Thread 申远
The check has passed now.

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:

> FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the Apache
> rules.
> Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to be
> addressed before graducation.
>
> [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
>
>
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
> >
> > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
> >
> > Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/, which is
> > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/  is
> not
> > updated yet.*
> >
> > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and https://weex-project.io/ to
> > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure robots.
> >
> > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is welcomed.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > YorkShen
> >
> > 申远
> >
> >
> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 下午8:02写道:
> >
> > > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
> > >
> > > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as long as the
> > > official website is at weex.apache.org.
> > >
> > > -J
> > >
> > > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution
> would
> > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
> > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the
> exact
> > > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search
> engines
> > > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real
> problem
> > > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow
> response
> > > > > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. Deploying the same content to two different host and domains is
> what
> > > we
> > > > are planning to do until we understand it may still break one domain
> > > rule.
> > > >
> > > > 2. According to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872 ,
> I
> > > think
> > > > INFRA have different point of view on separate domain with same
> content.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Personally speaking, I understand a world wide CDN is not
> practical
> > > now
> > > > and sometimes one may give up a better engineer solution due to law
> > > issue.
> > > > From user points, we need to give a brief explanation of the latency
> > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > YorkShen
> > > >
> > > > 申远
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 上午2:24写道:
> > > >
> > > > > Uh, the _domain name_ is not actually at all related to the speed
> of
> > > > > the site - the _hosting_ is.
> > > > >
> > > > > My results for those two domains from Germany, Berlin for example:
> > > > >
> > > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.io
> > > > >
> > > > > Pinging weex.io [47.75.160.176] with 32 bytes of data:
> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=335ms TTL=46
> > > > >
> > > > > Ping statistics for 47.75.160.176:
> > > > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> > > > > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> > > > > Minimum = 327ms, Maximum = 335ms, Average = 329ms
> > > > >
> > > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Pinging weex.apache.org [2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2] with 32 bytes of
> data:
> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=49ms
> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > > > >
> > > > > Ping statistics for 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2:
> > > > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> > > > > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> > > > > Minimum = 46ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 46ms
> > > > >
> > > > > So you should be aware that the actual problem (Apache server is
> slow
> > > > > from China) is a different one that is now discussed with INFRA
> (Can
> > > > > project use a different domain).
> > > > >
> > > > > The only real solution is for INFRA to use a world wide CDN that is
> > > > > fast everywhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution
> would
> > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
> > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the
> exact
> > > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search
> engines
> > > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real
> problem
> > > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow
> response
> > > > > times in China - and no 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-26 Thread Jan Piotrowski
Thanks for fixing the 404s and making the homepage editable.

> we can not control the Apache server to force redirect all non-https
requests to the https version, so, now we can just replace manually, I will
check it through automated means.

The server should just be a Apache webserver (of course!) that can
accept .htaccess files to redirect non-http requests.
Super complicated example from Cordova:
https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/blob/3c41a7d14192eb26c883c65fc63be303f811474e/www/.htaccess#L118-L130
There should be much easier ways to achieve this.

-J

Am Di., 26. Feb. 2019 um 10:44 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
>
> >
> > I am fine with editing any .yml or .json files that include the
> > content, but the headline "Cross Platforms" has to come from somewhere
> > in this repo, right?
> >
>
> The homepage is generated by
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/blob/draft/docs/.vuepress/data/lang-en.js
> on
> draft branch, I have just merged Dans' PR.
>
>
> > Old links that are listed in Google like e.g.
> > https://weex.apache.org/references/ also _have_ to be redirected to
> > the content's new location as quickly as possible. That is one of
> > those things that destroys existing traffic to websites on relaunches.
> > (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d=site%3Aweex.apache.org
> > - 217 pages that show mostly a 404 right now)
>
>
> The 404 problems has been fixed thanks to Dan's effort.
>
> BTW, https://weex.io has been redirected to https://weex.apache.org
> officially. I will contact the owner of weex-project.io to make it redirect
> as well later.
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远
>
>
> Dan  于2019年2月26日周二 下午1:29写道:
>
> > Hi, Jan
> >
> > > I am fine with editing any .yml or .json files that include the
> > content, but the headline "Cross Platforms" has to come from somewhere
> > in this repo, right?
> >
> > I have created a pull request to support edit homepage date, see  [docs]
> > support edit homepage data
> > , after the pull
> > request merged, you can edit the data file to change the homepage content.
> >
> > > One thing I would advise is that you make all non-https requests
> > redirect to the https version as soon as possible.
> >
> > we can not control the Apache server to force redirect all non-https
> > requests to the https version, so, now we can just replace manually, I will
> > check it through automated means.
> >
> > > Old links that are listed in Google like e.g.
> > https://weex.apache.org/references/ also _have_ to be redirected to
> > the content's new location as quickly as possible. That is one of
> > those things that destroys existing traffic to websites on relaunches.
> > (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d=site%3Aweex.apache.org
> > - 217 pages that show mostly a 404 right now)
> >
> > I am do it now, will be fixed today.
> >
> > > Have you already created a Google Search Console account for the site?
> > If not, someone should do so. I would be happy to look at the reports
> > being generated and give advice how to fix any possible problems.
> >
> > After finish all the below jobs, I will study how to deploy  Google Search
> > Console account on the site.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月25日周一 下午9:18写道:
> >
> > > I am fine with editing any .yml or .json files that include the
> > > content, but the headline "Cross Platforms" has to come from somewhere
> > > in this repo, right?
> > >
> > > One thing I would advise is that you make all non-https requests
> > > redirect to the https version as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > Old links that are listed in Google like e.g.
> > > https://weex.apache.org/references/ also _have_ to be redirected to
> > > the content's new location as quickly as possible. That is one of
> > > those things that destroys existing traffic to websites on relaunches.
> > > (
> > https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d=site%3Aweex.apache.org
> > > - 217 pages that show mostly a 404 right now)
> > >
> > > Have you already created a Google Search Console account for the site?
> > > If not, someone should do so. I would be happy to look at the reports
> > > being generated and give advice how to fix any possible problems.
> > >
> > > -J
> > >
> > > Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 12:50 Uhr schrieb Dan :
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Jan
> > > >
> > > > We deployed an automated server build system for building the content
> > of
> > > > weex.apache.org, the homepage is not a pure HTML file that can be
> > easily
> > > > edited.
> > > >
> > > > If you have any advice about this page, please let me know, I will
> > > improve
> > > > it later.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe some of the content can be built from a data file on the
> > > > incubator-weex-site 
> > > repo.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月25日周一 下午6:11写道:
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah, the homepage is unfortunately missing 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-26 Thread 申远
>
> I am fine with editing any .yml or .json files that include the
> content, but the headline "Cross Platforms" has to come from somewhere
> in this repo, right?
>

The homepage is generated by
https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/blob/draft/docs/.vuepress/data/lang-en.js
on
draft branch, I have just merged Dans' PR.


> Old links that are listed in Google like e.g.
> https://weex.apache.org/references/ also _have_ to be redirected to
> the content's new location as quickly as possible. That is one of
> those things that destroys existing traffic to websites on relaunches.
> (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d=site%3Aweex.apache.org
> - 217 pages that show mostly a 404 right now)


The 404 problems has been fixed thanks to Dan's effort.

BTW, https://weex.io has been redirected to https://weex.apache.org
officially. I will contact the owner of weex-project.io to make it redirect
as well later.

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Dan  于2019年2月26日周二 下午1:29写道:

> Hi, Jan
>
> > I am fine with editing any .yml or .json files that include the
> content, but the headline "Cross Platforms" has to come from somewhere
> in this repo, right?
>
> I have created a pull request to support edit homepage date, see  [docs]
> support edit homepage data
> , after the pull
> request merged, you can edit the data file to change the homepage content.
>
> > One thing I would advise is that you make all non-https requests
> redirect to the https version as soon as possible.
>
> we can not control the Apache server to force redirect all non-https
> requests to the https version, so, now we can just replace manually, I will
> check it through automated means.
>
> > Old links that are listed in Google like e.g.
> https://weex.apache.org/references/ also _have_ to be redirected to
> the content's new location as quickly as possible. That is one of
> those things that destroys existing traffic to websites on relaunches.
> (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d=site%3Aweex.apache.org
> - 217 pages that show mostly a 404 right now)
>
> I am do it now, will be fixed today.
>
> > Have you already created a Google Search Console account for the site?
> If not, someone should do so. I would be happy to look at the reports
> being generated and give advice how to fix any possible problems.
>
> After finish all the below jobs, I will study how to deploy  Google Search
> Console account on the site.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
> Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月25日周一 下午9:18写道:
>
> > I am fine with editing any .yml or .json files that include the
> > content, but the headline "Cross Platforms" has to come from somewhere
> > in this repo, right?
> >
> > One thing I would advise is that you make all non-https requests
> > redirect to the https version as soon as possible.
> >
> > Old links that are listed in Google like e.g.
> > https://weex.apache.org/references/ also _have_ to be redirected to
> > the content's new location as quickly as possible. That is one of
> > those things that destroys existing traffic to websites on relaunches.
> > (
> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d=site%3Aweex.apache.org
> > - 217 pages that show mostly a 404 right now)
> >
> > Have you already created a Google Search Console account for the site?
> > If not, someone should do so. I would be happy to look at the reports
> > being generated and give advice how to fix any possible problems.
> >
> > -J
> >
> > Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 12:50 Uhr schrieb Dan :
> > >
> > > Hi, Jan
> > >
> > > We deployed an automated server build system for building the content
> of
> > > weex.apache.org, the homepage is not a pure HTML file that can be
> easily
> > > edited.
> > >
> > > If you have any advice about this page, please let me know, I will
> > improve
> > > it later.
> > >
> > > Maybe some of the content can be built from a data file on the
> > > incubator-weex-site 
> > repo.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月25日周一 下午6:11写道:
> > >
> > > > Yeah, the homepage is unfortunately missing that button ;)
> > > > As the content is still in the `draft` branch, I also can't just
> > > > search for a sub string of the headlines to fine the page that
> > > > represents the homepage - could you please point me to the correct
> > > > file?
> > > >
> > > > -J
> > > >
> > > > Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 10:59 Uhr schrieb 申远  >:
> > > > >
> > > > > There are two options.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. On the bottom of each page, there is a button called *Edit this
> > > > page.* Just
> > > > > click it, then you will be navigated to the right branch and file
> on
> > the
> > > > > github.
> > > > > 2. If you prefer do things manually, Go to draft branch of
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/tree/draft.
> > > > >
> > > > > I normally prefer the first choice unless I have to write a totally
> > new
> > > > > article.
> > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-25 Thread Dan
Hi, Jan

> I am fine with editing any .yml or .json files that include the
content, but the headline "Cross Platforms" has to come from somewhere
in this repo, right?

I have created a pull request to support edit homepage date, see  [docs]
support edit homepage data
, after the pull
request merged, you can edit the data file to change the homepage content.

> One thing I would advise is that you make all non-https requests
redirect to the https version as soon as possible.

we can not control the Apache server to force redirect all non-https
requests to the https version, so, now we can just replace manually, I will
check it through automated means.

> Old links that are listed in Google like e.g.
https://weex.apache.org/references/ also _have_ to be redirected to
the content's new location as quickly as possible. That is one of
those things that destroys existing traffic to websites on relaunches.
(https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d=site%3Aweex.apache.org
- 217 pages that show mostly a 404 right now)

I am do it now, will be fixed today.

> Have you already created a Google Search Console account for the site?
If not, someone should do so. I would be happy to look at the reports
being generated and give advice how to fix any possible problems.

After finish all the below jobs, I will study how to deploy  Google Search
Console account on the site.

Thanks,
Dan

Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月25日周一 下午9:18写道:

> I am fine with editing any .yml or .json files that include the
> content, but the headline "Cross Platforms" has to come from somewhere
> in this repo, right?
>
> One thing I would advise is that you make all non-https requests
> redirect to the https version as soon as possible.
>
> Old links that are listed in Google like e.g.
> https://weex.apache.org/references/ also _have_ to be redirected to
> the content's new location as quickly as possible. That is one of
> those things that destroys existing traffic to websites on relaunches.
> (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d=site%3Aweex.apache.org
> - 217 pages that show mostly a 404 right now)
>
> Have you already created a Google Search Console account for the site?
> If not, someone should do so. I would be happy to look at the reports
> being generated and give advice how to fix any possible problems.
>
> -J
>
> Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 12:50 Uhr schrieb Dan :
> >
> > Hi, Jan
> >
> > We deployed an automated server build system for building the content of
> > weex.apache.org, the homepage is not a pure HTML file that can be easily
> > edited.
> >
> > If you have any advice about this page, please let me know, I will
> improve
> > it later.
> >
> > Maybe some of the content can be built from a data file on the
> > incubator-weex-site 
> repo.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月25日周一 下午6:11写道:
> >
> > > Yeah, the homepage is unfortunately missing that button ;)
> > > As the content is still in the `draft` branch, I also can't just
> > > search for a sub string of the headlines to fine the page that
> > > represents the homepage - could you please point me to the correct
> > > file?
> > >
> > > -J
> > >
> > > Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 10:59 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > > >
> > > > There are two options.
> > > >
> > > > 1. On the bottom of each page, there is a button called *Edit this
> > > page.* Just
> > > > click it, then you will be navigated to the right branch and file on
> the
> > > > github.
> > > > 2. If you prefer do things manually, Go to draft branch of
> > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/tree/draft.
> > > >
> > > > I normally prefer the first choice unless I have to write a totally
> new
> > > > article.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the following approach is described in the docs, too. Ref
> > > >
> > >
> https://weex.apache.org/guide/contribute/how-to-contribute.html#contribute-code-or-document
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > YorkShen
> > > >
> > > > 申远
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月25日周一 下午5:46写道:
> > > >
> > > > > Nice.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which is the repository and branch to send PRs with typo fixes etc
> to?
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 10:18 Uhr schrieb 申远 <
> shenyua...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, there
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had fix the 404 error and updated the website of
> weex.apache.org,
> > > > > which
> > > > > > content should be the same as weex.io now. I will configure a
> 302
> > > > > > redirection later, which will make all the mirror site redirects
> to
> > > > > > weex.apache.org.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > YorkShen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 申远
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 申远  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:46写道:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > As there is a wired 404 problem under Apache domain, which
> works
> > > fine
> > > > > > > under weex.io domain, I have to revert all the changes on
> > > > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-25 Thread Jan Piotrowski
I am fine with editing any .yml or .json files that include the
content, but the headline "Cross Platforms" has to come from somewhere
in this repo, right?

One thing I would advise is that you make all non-https requests
redirect to the https version as soon as possible.

Old links that are listed in Google like e.g.
https://weex.apache.org/references/ also _have_ to be redirected to
the content's new location as quickly as possible. That is one of
those things that destroys existing traffic to websites on relaunches.
(https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d=site%3Aweex.apache.org
- 217 pages that show mostly a 404 right now)

Have you already created a Google Search Console account for the site?
If not, someone should do so. I would be happy to look at the reports
being generated and give advice how to fix any possible problems.

-J

Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 12:50 Uhr schrieb Dan :
>
> Hi, Jan
>
> We deployed an automated server build system for building the content of
> weex.apache.org, the homepage is not a pure HTML file that can be easily
> edited.
>
> If you have any advice about this page, please let me know, I will improve
> it later.
>
> Maybe some of the content can be built from a data file on the
> incubator-weex-site  repo.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
> Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月25日周一 下午6:11写道:
>
> > Yeah, the homepage is unfortunately missing that button ;)
> > As the content is still in the `draft` branch, I also can't just
> > search for a sub string of the headlines to fine the page that
> > represents the homepage - could you please point me to the correct
> > file?
> >
> > -J
> >
> > Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 10:59 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > >
> > > There are two options.
> > >
> > > 1. On the bottom of each page, there is a button called *Edit this
> > page.* Just
> > > click it, then you will be navigated to the right branch and file on the
> > > github.
> > > 2. If you prefer do things manually, Go to draft branch of
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/tree/draft.
> > >
> > > I normally prefer the first choice unless I have to write a totally new
> > > article.
> > >
> > > BTW, the following approach is described in the docs, too. Ref
> > >
> > https://weex.apache.org/guide/contribute/how-to-contribute.html#contribute-code-or-document
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > YorkShen
> > >
> > > 申远
> > >
> > >
> > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月25日周一 下午5:46写道:
> > >
> > > > Nice.
> > > >
> > > > Which is the repository and branch to send PRs with typo fixes etc to?
> > > >
> > > > Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 10:18 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, there
> > > > >
> > > > > I had fix the 404 error and updated the website of weex.apache.org,
> > > > which
> > > > > content should be the same as weex.io now. I will configure a 302
> > > > > redirection later, which will make all the mirror site redirects to
> > > > > weex.apache.org.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > YorkShen
> > > > >
> > > > > 申远
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 申远  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:46写道:
> > > > >
> > > > > > As there is a wired 404 problem under Apache domain, which works
> > fine
> > > > > > under weex.io domain, I have to revert all the changes on
> > > > weex.apache.org .
> > > > > > I will publish it again when I find out what is happening here.
> > > > Meanwhile,
> > > > > > one may take https://weex.io as the preview version of new weex
> > > > website
> > > > > > before the republish.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry for the inconvenience.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > YorkShen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 申远
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the
> > > > Apache
> > > > > >> rules.
> > > > > >> Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to
> > be
> > > > > >> addressed before graducation.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Willem Jiang
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Twitter: willemjiang
> > > > > >> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/,
> > > > which
> > > > > >> is
> > > > > >> > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> > > > > >> > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/ <
> > https://weex-project.io/
> > > > >
> > > > > >> is not
> > > > > >> > updated yet.*
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and
> > https://weex-project.io/
> > > > to
> > > > > >> > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure
> > > > robots.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is
> > > > welcomed.
> > > > > >> >

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-25 Thread Dan
Hi, Jan

We deployed an automated server build system for building the content of
weex.apache.org, the homepage is not a pure HTML file that can be easily
edited.

If you have any advice about this page, please let me know, I will improve
it later.

Maybe some of the content can be built from a data file on the
incubator-weex-site  repo.

Thanks,
Dan

Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月25日周一 下午6:11写道:

> Yeah, the homepage is unfortunately missing that button ;)
> As the content is still in the `draft` branch, I also can't just
> search for a sub string of the headlines to fine the page that
> represents the homepage - could you please point me to the correct
> file?
>
> -J
>
> Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 10:59 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> >
> > There are two options.
> >
> > 1. On the bottom of each page, there is a button called *Edit this
> page.* Just
> > click it, then you will be navigated to the right branch and file on the
> > github.
> > 2. If you prefer do things manually, Go to draft branch of
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/tree/draft.
> >
> > I normally prefer the first choice unless I have to write a totally new
> > article.
> >
> > BTW, the following approach is described in the docs, too. Ref
> >
> https://weex.apache.org/guide/contribute/how-to-contribute.html#contribute-code-or-document
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > YorkShen
> >
> > 申远
> >
> >
> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月25日周一 下午5:46写道:
> >
> > > Nice.
> > >
> > > Which is the repository and branch to send PRs with typo fixes etc to?
> > >
> > > Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 10:18 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > > >
> > > > Hi, there
> > > >
> > > > I had fix the 404 error and updated the website of weex.apache.org,
> > > which
> > > > content should be the same as weex.io now. I will configure a 302
> > > > redirection later, which will make all the mirror site redirects to
> > > > weex.apache.org.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > YorkShen
> > > >
> > > > 申远
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 申远  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:46写道:
> > > >
> > > > > As there is a wired 404 problem under Apache domain, which works
> fine
> > > > > under weex.io domain, I have to revert all the changes on
> > > weex.apache.org .
> > > > > I will publish it again when I find out what is happening here.
> > > Meanwhile,
> > > > > one may take https://weex.io as the preview version of new weex
> > > website
> > > > > before the republish.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry for the inconvenience.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > YorkShen
> > > > >
> > > > > 申远
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
> > > > >
> > > > >> FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the
> > > Apache
> > > > >> rules.
> > > > >> Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to
> be
> > > > >> addressed before graducation.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Willem Jiang
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Twitter: willemjiang
> > > > >> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/,
> > > which
> > > > >> is
> > > > >> > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> > > > >> > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/ <
> https://weex-project.io/
> > > >
> > > > >> is not
> > > > >> > updated yet.*
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and
> https://weex-project.io/
> > > to
> > > > >> > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure
> > > robots.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is
> > > welcomed.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Thanks
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Best Regards,
> > > > >> > YorkShen
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > 申远
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 下午8:02写道:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as
> long
> > > as the
> > > > >> > > official website is at weex.apache.org.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > -J
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 <
> > > shenyua...@gmail.com>:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical
> > > solution
> > > > >> would
> > > > >> > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain
> that
> > > can
> > > > >> > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to
> show
> > > the
> > > > >> exact
> > > > >> > > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from
> search
> > > > >> engines
> > > > >> > > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no
> real
> > > > >> problem
> > > > >> > > > > with that (as it is a 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-25 Thread Jan Piotrowski
Yeah, the homepage is unfortunately missing that button ;)
As the content is still in the `draft` branch, I also can't just
search for a sub string of the headlines to fine the page that
represents the homepage - could you please point me to the correct
file?

-J

Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 10:59 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
>
> There are two options.
>
> 1. On the bottom of each page, there is a button called *Edit this page.* Just
> click it, then you will be navigated to the right branch and file on the
> github.
> 2. If you prefer do things manually, Go to draft branch of
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/tree/draft.
>
> I normally prefer the first choice unless I have to write a totally new
> article.
>
> BTW, the following approach is described in the docs, too. Ref
> https://weex.apache.org/guide/contribute/how-to-contribute.html#contribute-code-or-document
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远
>
>
> Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月25日周一 下午5:46写道:
>
> > Nice.
> >
> > Which is the repository and branch to send PRs with typo fixes etc to?
> >
> > Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 10:18 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > >
> > > Hi, there
> > >
> > > I had fix the 404 error and updated the website of weex.apache.org,
> > which
> > > content should be the same as weex.io now. I will configure a 302
> > > redirection later, which will make all the mirror site redirects to
> > > weex.apache.org.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > YorkShen
> > >
> > > 申远
> > >
> > >
> > > 申远  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:46写道:
> > >
> > > > As there is a wired 404 problem under Apache domain, which works fine
> > > > under weex.io domain, I have to revert all the changes on
> > weex.apache.org .
> > > > I will publish it again when I find out what is happening here.
> > Meanwhile,
> > > > one may take https://weex.io as the preview version of new weex
> > website
> > > > before the republish.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the inconvenience.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > YorkShen
> > > >
> > > > 申远
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
> > > >
> > > >> FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the
> > Apache
> > > >> rules.
> > > >> Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to be
> > > >> addressed before graducation.
> > > >>
> > > >> [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Willem Jiang
> > > >>
> > > >> Twitter: willemjiang
> > > >> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/,
> > which
> > > >> is
> > > >> > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> > > >> > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/  > >
> > > >> is not
> > > >> > updated yet.*
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and https://weex-project.io/
> > to
> > > >> > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure
> > robots.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is
> > welcomed.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> > YorkShen
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 申远
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 下午8:02写道:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as long
> > as the
> > > >> > > official website is at weex.apache.org.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > -J
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 <
> > shenyua...@gmail.com>:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical
> > solution
> > > >> would
> > > >> > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that
> > can
> > > >> > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show
> > the
> > > >> exact
> > > >> > > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search
> > > >> engines
> > > >> > > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real
> > > >> problem
> > > >> > > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow
> > > >> response
> > > >> > > > > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 1. Deploying the same content to two different host and domains
> > is
> > > >> what
> > > >> > > we
> > > >> > > > are planning to do until we understand it may still break one
> > domain
> > > >> > > rule.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 2. According to
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872
> > > >> , I
> > > >> > > think
> > > >> > > > INFRA have different point of view on separate domain with same
> > > >> content.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 3. Personally speaking, I understand a world wide CDN is not
> > > >> practical
> > > >> > > now
> > > >> > > > and 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-25 Thread 申远
There are two options.

1. On the bottom of each page, there is a button called *Edit this page.* Just
click it, then you will be navigated to the right branch and file on the
github.
2. If you prefer do things manually, Go to draft branch of
https://github.com/apache/incubator-weex-site/tree/draft.

I normally prefer the first choice unless I have to write a totally new
article.

BTW, the following approach is described in the docs, too. Ref
https://weex.apache.org/guide/contribute/how-to-contribute.html#contribute-code-or-document

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月25日周一 下午5:46写道:

> Nice.
>
> Which is the repository and branch to send PRs with typo fixes etc to?
>
> Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 10:18 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> >
> > Hi, there
> >
> > I had fix the 404 error and updated the website of weex.apache.org,
> which
> > content should be the same as weex.io now. I will configure a 302
> > redirection later, which will make all the mirror site redirects to
> > weex.apache.org.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > YorkShen
> >
> > 申远
> >
> >
> > 申远  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:46写道:
> >
> > > As there is a wired 404 problem under Apache domain, which works fine
> > > under weex.io domain, I have to revert all the changes on
> weex.apache.org .
> > > I will publish it again when I find out what is happening here.
> Meanwhile,
> > > one may take https://weex.io as the preview version of new weex
> website
> > > before the republish.
> > >
> > > Sorry for the inconvenience.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > YorkShen
> > >
> > > 申远
> > >
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
> > >
> > >> FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the
> Apache
> > >> rules.
> > >> Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to be
> > >> addressed before graducation.
> > >>
> > >> [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Willem Jiang
> > >>
> > >> Twitter: willemjiang
> > >> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
> > >> >
> > >> > Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/,
> which
> > >> is
> > >> > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> > >> > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/  >
> > >> is not
> > >> > updated yet.*
> > >> >
> > >> > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and https://weex-project.io/
> to
> > >> > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure
> robots.
> > >> >
> > >> > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is
> welcomed.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> > Best Regards,
> > >> > YorkShen
> > >> >
> > >> > 申远
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 下午8:02写道:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as long
> as the
> > >> > > official website is at weex.apache.org.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -J
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 <
> shenyua...@gmail.com>:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical
> solution
> > >> would
> > >> > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that
> can
> > >> > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show
> the
> > >> exact
> > >> > > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search
> > >> engines
> > >> > > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real
> > >> problem
> > >> > > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow
> > >> response
> > >> > > > > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 1. Deploying the same content to two different host and domains
> is
> > >> what
> > >> > > we
> > >> > > > are planning to do until we understand it may still break one
> domain
> > >> > > rule.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 2. According to
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872
> > >> , I
> > >> > > think
> > >> > > > INFRA have different point of view on separate domain with same
> > >> content.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 3. Personally speaking, I understand a world wide CDN is not
> > >> practical
> > >> > > now
> > >> > > > and sometimes one may give up a better engineer solution due to
> law
> > >> > > issue.
> > >> > > > From user points, we need to give a brief explanation of the
> latency
> > >> > > > problem.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Best Regards,
> > >> > > > YorkShen
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 申远
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 上午2:24写道:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Uh, the _domain name_ is not actually at all related to the
> speed
> > >> of
> > >> > > > > the site - the _hosting_ is.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > My results for those two domains from Germany, Berlin for
> example:
> > >> > > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-25 Thread Jan Piotrowski
Nice.

Which is the repository and branch to send PRs with typo fixes etc to?

Am Mo., 25. Feb. 2019 um 10:18 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
>
> Hi, there
>
> I had fix the 404 error and updated the website of weex.apache.org, which
> content should be the same as weex.io now. I will configure a 302
> redirection later, which will make all the mirror site redirects to
> weex.apache.org.
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远
>
>
> 申远  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:46写道:
>
> > As there is a wired 404 problem under Apache domain, which works fine
> > under weex.io domain, I have to revert all the changes on weex.apache.org .
> > I will publish it again when I find out what is happening here. Meanwhile,
> > one may take https://weex.io as the preview version of new weex website
> > before the republish.
> >
> > Sorry for the inconvenience.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > YorkShen
> >
> > 申远
> >
> >
> > Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
> >
> >> FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the Apache
> >> rules.
> >> Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to be
> >> addressed before graducation.
> >>
> >> [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Willem Jiang
> >>
> >> Twitter: willemjiang
> >> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/, which
> >> is
> >> > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> >> > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/ 
> >> is not
> >> > updated yet.*
> >> >
> >> > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and https://weex-project.io/ to
> >> > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure robots.
> >> >
> >> > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is welcomed.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards,
> >> > YorkShen
> >> >
> >> > 申远
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 下午8:02写道:
> >> >
> >> > > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
> >> > >
> >> > > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as long as the
> >> > > official website is at weex.apache.org.
> >> > >
> >> > > -J
> >> > >
> >> > > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution
> >> would
> >> > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
> >> > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the
> >> exact
> >> > > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search
> >> engines
> >> > > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real
> >> problem
> >> > > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow
> >> response
> >> > > > > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 1. Deploying the same content to two different host and domains is
> >> what
> >> > > we
> >> > > > are planning to do until we understand it may still break one domain
> >> > > rule.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 2. According to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872
> >> , I
> >> > > think
> >> > > > INFRA have different point of view on separate domain with same
> >> content.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 3. Personally speaking, I understand a world wide CDN is not
> >> practical
> >> > > now
> >> > > > and sometimes one may give up a better engineer solution due to law
> >> > > issue.
> >> > > > From user points, we need to give a brief explanation of the latency
> >> > > > problem.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Best Regards,
> >> > > > YorkShen
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 申远
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 上午2:24写道:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Uh, the _domain name_ is not actually at all related to the speed
> >> of
> >> > > > > the site - the _hosting_ is.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > My results for those two domains from Germany, Berlin for example:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.io
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Pinging weex.io [47.75.160.176] with 32 bytes of data:
> >> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> >> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> >> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> >> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=335ms TTL=46
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Ping statistics for 47.75.160.176:
> >> > > > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> >> > > > > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> >> > > > > Minimum = 327ms, Maximum = 335ms, Average = 329ms
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.apache.org
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Pinging weex.apache.org [2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2] with 32 bytes of
> >> data:
> >> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> >> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> >> > > > > Reply from 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-25 Thread 申远
Hi, there

I had fix the 404 error and updated the website of weex.apache.org, which
content should be the same as weex.io now. I will configure a 302
redirection later, which will make all the mirror site redirects to
weex.apache.org.

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


申远  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:46写道:

> As there is a wired 404 problem under Apache domain, which works fine
> under weex.io domain, I have to revert all the changes on weex.apache.org .
> I will publish it again when I find out what is happening here. Meanwhile,
> one may take https://weex.io as the preview version of new weex website
> before the republish.
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远
>
>
> Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:
>
>> FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the Apache
>> rules.
>> Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to be
>> addressed before graducation.
>>
>> [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
>>
>>
>>
>> Willem Jiang
>>
>> Twitter: willemjiang
>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
>> >
>> > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
>> >
>> > Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/, which
>> is
>> > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
>> > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/ 
>> is not
>> > updated yet.*
>> >
>> > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and https://weex-project.io/ to
>> > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure robots.
>> >
>> > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is welcomed.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > YorkShen
>> >
>> > 申远
>> >
>> >
>> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 下午8:02写道:
>> >
>> > > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
>> > >
>> > > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as long as the
>> > > official website is at weex.apache.org.
>> > >
>> > > -J
>> > >
>> > > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution
>> would
>> > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
>> > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the
>> exact
>> > > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search
>> engines
>> > > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real
>> problem
>> > > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow
>> response
>> > > > > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 1. Deploying the same content to two different host and domains is
>> what
>> > > we
>> > > > are planning to do until we understand it may still break one domain
>> > > rule.
>> > > >
>> > > > 2. According to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872
>> , I
>> > > think
>> > > > INFRA have different point of view on separate domain with same
>> content.
>> > > >
>> > > > 3. Personally speaking, I understand a world wide CDN is not
>> practical
>> > > now
>> > > > and sometimes one may give up a better engineer solution due to law
>> > > issue.
>> > > > From user points, we need to give a brief explanation of the latency
>> > > > problem.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best Regards,
>> > > > YorkShen
>> > > >
>> > > > 申远
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 上午2:24写道:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Uh, the _domain name_ is not actually at all related to the speed
>> of
>> > > > > the site - the _hosting_ is.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > My results for those two domains from Germany, Berlin for example:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.io
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Pinging weex.io [47.75.160.176] with 32 bytes of data:
>> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
>> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
>> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
>> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=335ms TTL=46
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Ping statistics for 47.75.160.176:
>> > > > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
>> > > > > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
>> > > > > Minimum = 327ms, Maximum = 335ms, Average = 329ms
>> > > > >
>> > > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.apache.org
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Pinging weex.apache.org [2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2] with 32 bytes of
>> data:
>> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
>> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
>> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=49ms
>> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Ping statistics for 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2:
>> > > > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
>> > > > > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
>> > > > > Minimum = 46ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 46ms
>> > > > >
>> > > > > So you should be aware that the actual problem (Apache server is
>> slow

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-22 Thread 申远
As there is a wired 404 problem under Apache domain, which works fine under
weex.io domain, I have to revert all the changes on weex.apache.org . I
will publish it again when I find out what is happening here. Meanwhile,
one may take https://weex.io as the preview version of new weex website
before the republish.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Willem Jiang  于2019年2月22日周五 下午8:08写道:

> FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the Apache
> rules.
> Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to be
> addressed before graducation.
>
> [1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex
>
>
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
> >
> > It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
> >
> > Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/, which is
> > the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> > privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/  is
> not
> > updated yet.*
> >
> > Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and https://weex-project.io/ to
> > https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure robots.
> >
> > Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is welcomed.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > YorkShen
> >
> > 申远
> >
> >
> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 下午8:02写道:
> >
> > > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
> > >
> > > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as long as the
> > > official website is at weex.apache.org.
> > >
> > > -J
> > >
> > > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution
> would
> > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
> > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the
> exact
> > > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search
> engines
> > > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real
> problem
> > > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow
> response
> > > > > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. Deploying the same content to two different host and domains is
> what
> > > we
> > > > are planning to do until we understand it may still break one domain
> > > rule.
> > > >
> > > > 2. According to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872 ,
> I
> > > think
> > > > INFRA have different point of view on separate domain with same
> content.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Personally speaking, I understand a world wide CDN is not
> practical
> > > now
> > > > and sometimes one may give up a better engineer solution due to law
> > > issue.
> > > > From user points, we need to give a brief explanation of the latency
> > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > YorkShen
> > > >
> > > > 申远
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 上午2:24写道:
> > > >
> > > > > Uh, the _domain name_ is not actually at all related to the speed
> of
> > > > > the site - the _hosting_ is.
> > > > >
> > > > > My results for those two domains from Germany, Berlin for example:
> > > > >
> > > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.io
> > > > >
> > > > > Pinging weex.io [47.75.160.176] with 32 bytes of data:
> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=335ms TTL=46
> > > > >
> > > > > Ping statistics for 47.75.160.176:
> > > > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> > > > > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> > > > > Minimum = 327ms, Maximum = 335ms, Average = 329ms
> > > > >
> > > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Pinging weex.apache.org [2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2] with 32 bytes of
> data:
> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=49ms
> > > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > > > >
> > > > > Ping statistics for 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2:
> > > > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> > > > > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> > > > > Minimum = 46ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 46ms
> > > > >
> > > > > So you should be aware that the actual problem (Apache server is
> slow
> > > > > from China) is a different one that is now discussed with INFRA
> (Can
> > > > > project use a different domain).
> > > > >
> > > > > The only real solution is for INFRA to use a world wide CDN that is
> > > > > fast everywhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution
> would
> > > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
> > > > > provide better speeds to Chinese 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-22 Thread Willem Jiang
FYI, there is a tool[1] to check if the website is following the Apache rules.
Please take a look and fix them ASAP. The website issues need to be
addressed before graducation.

[1]https://whimsy.apache.org/pods.cgi/project/weex



Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:58 PM 申远  wrote:
>
> It seems like INFRA is not ok the mirror site in China.
>
> Anyway, I have updated the content of https://weex.apache.org/, which is
> the same as https://weex.io now. *As there is a
> privilege issue, https://weex-project.io/  is not
> updated yet.*
>
> Later, I will redirect https://weex.io and https://weex-project.io/ to
> https://weex.apache.org/ using 302 redirection and configure robots.
>
> Feedback of the new design for https://weex.apache.org/ is welcomed.
>
> Thanks
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远
>
>
> Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 下午8:02写道:
>
> > Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.
> >
> > I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as long as the
> > official website is at weex.apache.org.
> >
> > -J
> >
> > Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
> > >
> > > >
> > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution would
> > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
> > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the exact
> > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search engines
> > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real problem
> > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow response
> > > > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. Deploying the same content to two different host and domains is what
> > we
> > > are planning to do until we understand it may still break one domain
> > rule.
> > >
> > > 2. According to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872 , I
> > think
> > > INFRA have different point of view on separate domain with same content.
> > >
> > > 3. Personally speaking, I understand a world wide CDN is not practical
> > now
> > > and sometimes one may give up a better engineer solution due to law
> > issue.
> > > From user points, we need to give a brief explanation of the latency
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > YorkShen
> > >
> > > 申远
> > >
> > >
> > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 上午2:24写道:
> > >
> > > > Uh, the _domain name_ is not actually at all related to the speed of
> > > > the site - the _hosting_ is.
> > > >
> > > > My results for those two domains from Germany, Berlin for example:
> > > >
> > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.io
> > > >
> > > > Pinging weex.io [47.75.160.176] with 32 bytes of data:
> > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > > > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=335ms TTL=46
> > > >
> > > > Ping statistics for 47.75.160.176:
> > > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> > > > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> > > > Minimum = 327ms, Maximum = 335ms, Average = 329ms
> > > >
> > > > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.apache.org
> > > >
> > > > Pinging weex.apache.org [2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2] with 32 bytes of data:
> > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=49ms
> > > > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > > >
> > > > Ping statistics for 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2:
> > > > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> > > > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> > > > Minimum = 46ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 46ms
> > > >
> > > > So you should be aware that the actual problem (Apache server is slow
> > > > from China) is a different one that is now discussed with INFRA (Can
> > > > project use a different domain).
> > > >
> > > > The only real solution is for INFRA to use a world wide CDN that is
> > > > fast everywhere.
> > > >
> > > > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution would
> > > > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
> > > > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the exact
> > > > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search engines
> > > > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real problem
> > > > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow response
> > > > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
> > > >
> > > > -J
> > > >
> > > > Am Di., 19. Feb. 2019 um 12:57 Uhr schrieb Myrle Krantz <
> > my...@apache.org
> > > > >:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've created an INFRA ticket:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872
> > > > >
> > > > > I won't promise that INFRA can solve this, but hopefully they'll at
> > least
> > > > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-20 Thread Jan Piotrowski
Good question comment you posted on the INFRA post.

I hope they will agree, that there is no problem at all as long as the
official website is at weex.apache.org.

-J

Am Mi., 20. Feb. 2019 um 09:48 Uhr schrieb 申远 :
>
> >
> > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution would
> > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
> > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the exact
> > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search engines
> > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real problem
> > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow response
> > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
>
>
> 1. Deploying the same content to two different host and domains is what we
> are planning to do until we understand it may still break one domain rule.
>
> 2. According to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872 , I think
> INFRA have different point of view on separate domain with same content.
>
> 3. Personally speaking, I understand a world wide CDN is not practical now
> and sometimes one may give up a better engineer solution due to law issue.
> From user points, we need to give a brief explanation of the latency
> problem.
>
> Best Regards,
> YorkShen
>
> 申远
>
>
> Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 上午2:24写道:
>
> > Uh, the _domain name_ is not actually at all related to the speed of
> > the site - the _hosting_ is.
> >
> > My results for those two domains from Germany, Berlin for example:
> >
> > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.io
> >
> > Pinging weex.io [47.75.160.176] with 32 bytes of data:
> > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> > Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=335ms TTL=46
> >
> > Ping statistics for 47.75.160.176:
> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> > Minimum = 327ms, Maximum = 335ms, Average = 329ms
> >
> > C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.apache.org
> >
> > Pinging weex.apache.org [2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2] with 32 bytes of data:
> > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=49ms
> > Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> >
> > Ping statistics for 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2:
> > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> > Minimum = 46ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 46ms
> >
> > So you should be aware that the actual problem (Apache server is slow
> > from China) is a different one that is now discussed with INFRA (Can
> > project use a different domain).
> >
> > The only real solution is for INFRA to use a world wide CDN that is
> > fast everywhere.
> >
> > But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution would
> > be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
> > provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the exact
> > same content as the official site (and be hidden from search engines
> > via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real problem
> > with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow response
> > times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
> >
> > -J
> >
> > Am Di., 19. Feb. 2019 um 12:57 Uhr schrieb Myrle Krantz  > >:
> > >
> > > I've created an INFRA ticket:
> > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872
> > >
> > > I won't promise that INFRA can solve this, but hopefully they'll at least
> > > look at it.
> > >
> > > Feel free to add any details you have.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Myrle
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 7:18 AM Dan  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks, Jan, I will take a look at this.
> > > >
> > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月18日周一 下午6:15写道:
> > > >
> > > > > Cordova uses the npm package `insight` for telemetry, you can see
> > more
> > > > > in these two files:
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/telemetry.js
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/cli.js
> > > > > The data being tracked is very limited, and all done only after
> > > > > explicit opt-in by the user. (You get a prompt when you first install
> > > > > Cordova).
> > > > > The dashboard itself is built on the Google Analytics data source
> > that
> > > > > collects the data for pretty graphs.
> > > > >
> > > > > One problem: I am under the impression that Google Analytics is
> > > > > blocked for good parts of Chinese users, so Cordova's data regarding
> > > > > usage in China is probably very broken.
> > > > >
> > > > > -J
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 08:29 Uhr schrieb Dan  > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Jan,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for getting back to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your opinion has helped us a lot. We will migrate the deployment
> > of the
> > > > 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-20 Thread 申远
>
> But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution would
> be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
> provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the exact
> same content as the official site (and be hidden from search engines
> via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real problem
> with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow response
> times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).


1. Deploying the same content to two different host and domains is what we
are planning to do until we understand it may still break one domain rule.

2. According to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872 , I think
INFRA have different point of view on separate domain with same content.

3. Personally speaking, I understand a world wide CDN is not practical now
and sometimes one may give up a better engineer solution due to law issue.
>From user points, we need to give a brief explanation of the latency
problem.

Best Regards,
YorkShen

申远


Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月20日周三 上午2:24写道:

> Uh, the _domain name_ is not actually at all related to the speed of
> the site - the _hosting_ is.
>
> My results for those two domains from Germany, Berlin for example:
>
> C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.io
>
> Pinging weex.io [47.75.160.176] with 32 bytes of data:
> Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
> Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=335ms TTL=46
>
> Ping statistics for 47.75.160.176:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> Minimum = 327ms, Maximum = 335ms, Average = 329ms
>
> C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.apache.org
>
> Pinging weex.apache.org [2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2] with 32 bytes of data:
> Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
> Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=49ms
> Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
>
> Ping statistics for 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2:
> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
> Minimum = 46ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 46ms
>
> So you should be aware that the actual problem (Apache server is slow
> from China) is a different one that is now discussed with INFRA (Can
> project use a different domain).
>
> The only real solution is for INFRA to use a world wide CDN that is
> fast everywhere.
>
> But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution would
> be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
> provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the exact
> same content as the official site (and be hidden from search engines
> via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real problem
> with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow response
> times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).
>
> -J
>
> Am Di., 19. Feb. 2019 um 12:57 Uhr schrieb Myrle Krantz  >:
> >
> > I've created an INFRA ticket:
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872
> >
> > I won't promise that INFRA can solve this, but hopefully they'll at least
> > look at it.
> >
> > Feel free to add any details you have.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 7:18 AM Dan  wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, Jan, I will take a look at this.
> > >
> > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月18日周一 下午6:15写道:
> > >
> > > > Cordova uses the npm package `insight` for telemetry, you can see
> more
> > > > in these two files:
> > > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/telemetry.js
> > > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/cli.js
> > > > The data being tracked is very limited, and all done only after
> > > > explicit opt-in by the user. (You get a prompt when you first install
> > > > Cordova).
> > > > The dashboard itself is built on the Google Analytics data source
> that
> > > > collects the data for pretty graphs.
> > > >
> > > > One problem: I am under the impression that Google Analytics is
> > > > blocked for good parts of Chinese users, so Cordova's data regarding
> > > > usage in China is probably very broken.
> > > >
> > > > -J
> > > >
> > > > Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 08:29 Uhr schrieb Dan  >:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Jan,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for getting back to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your opinion has helped us a lot. We will migrate the deployment
> of the
> > > > > document to weex.apache.org in these two days.
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, do you know the detail about how to do the user-track bellow
> the
> > > > > apache way, I know the Cordova has telemetry.cordova.io to record
> it,
> > > > and
> > > > > we also want to record the user's behavior in the weex-toolkit to
> help
> > > us
> > > > > better improve the tool experience.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan Piotrowski  

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-19 Thread Jan Piotrowski
Uh, the _domain name_ is not actually at all related to the speed of
the site - the _hosting_ is.

My results for those two domains from Germany, Berlin for example:

C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.io

Pinging weex.io [47.75.160.176] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=46
Reply from 47.75.160.176: bytes=32 time=335ms TTL=46

Ping statistics for 47.75.160.176:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 327ms, Maximum = 335ms, Average = 329ms

C:\Users\Jan>ping weex.apache.org

Pinging weex.apache.org [2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms
Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=49ms
Reply from 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2: time=46ms

Ping statistics for 2a01:4f9:2a:185f::2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 46ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 46ms

So you should be aware that the actual problem (Apache server is slow
from China) is a different one that is now discussed with INFRA (Can
project use a different domain).

The only real solution is for INFRA to use a world wide CDN that is
fast everywhere.

But until this happens I think an absolutely practical solution would
be to use a second host in China with a separate domain that can
provide better speeds to Chinese users. It just has to show the exact
same content as the official site (and be hidden from search engines
via robots.txt to not confuse them). INFRA should have no real problem
with that (as it is a appropriate workaround for their slow response
times in China - and no branding stuff is ignored).

-J

Am Di., 19. Feb. 2019 um 12:57 Uhr schrieb Myrle Krantz :
>
> I've created an INFRA ticket:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872
>
> I won't promise that INFRA can solve this, but hopefully they'll at least
> look at it.
>
> Feel free to add any details you have.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 7:18 AM Dan  wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Jan, I will take a look at this.
> >
> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月18日周一 下午6:15写道:
> >
> > > Cordova uses the npm package `insight` for telemetry, you can see more
> > > in these two files:
> > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/telemetry.js
> > > https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/cli.js
> > > The data being tracked is very limited, and all done only after
> > > explicit opt-in by the user. (You get a prompt when you first install
> > > Cordova).
> > > The dashboard itself is built on the Google Analytics data source that
> > > collects the data for pretty graphs.
> > >
> > > One problem: I am under the impression that Google Analytics is
> > > blocked for good parts of Chinese users, so Cordova's data regarding
> > > usage in China is probably very broken.
> > >
> > > -J
> > >
> > > Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 08:29 Uhr schrieb Dan :
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jan,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for getting back to me.
> > > >
> > > > Your opinion has helped us a lot. We will migrate the deployment of the
> > > > document to weex.apache.org in these two days.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, do you know the detail about how to do the user-track bellow the
> > > > apache way, I know the Cordova has telemetry.cordova.io to record it,
> > > and
> > > > we also want to record the user's behavior in the weex-toolkit to help
> > us
> > > > better improve the tool experience.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月15日周五 下午7:42写道:
> > > >
> > > > > Besides what the rules say (which I don't really know):
> > > > >
> > > > > An apache.org domain has an incredible effect on credibility and
> > > > > trust. Apache is a really strong brand with developers, and
> > especially
> > > > > new projects like Weex can benefit from that.
> > > > >
> > > > > (The project will be called "Apache Weex" anyway)
> > > > >
> > > > > Apache Cordova owns the cordova.io domain and uses it as a redirect
> > to
> > > > > cordova.apache.org. That way we can still tell people to go to
> > > > > "cordova.io", but on Google and in user's browser everything happens
> > > > > on apache.cordova.org. We also have loads of subdomains like
> > > > > blog.cordova.io issues.cordova.io, slack.cordova.io,
> > > > > telemetry.cordova.io and so on as shortcuts which is very handy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Using the domains you mentioned, weex.io could redirect to
> > > > > weex.apache.org, docs.weex.io redirects to weex.apache.org/docs,
> > > > > blog.weex.io to weex.apache.org/blog and so on. Then cn.weex.io
> > could
> > > > > redirect to weex-project.io for easier finding of the Chinese
> > domain.
> > > > >
> > > > > -J
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 15. Feb 2019, at 07:38, 

Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-19 Thread Willem Jiang
Sorry,I just came across this email.
I found you already sent the mail to the general mailing, I will reply
the mail there.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 2:39 PM Dan  wrote:
>
> Hi, Myrle/Willem,
>
> Currently, we have a domain name of weex.io and want to use it to replace
> the previous weex-project.io domain name for the following reasons:
>
> 1. The domain name is shorter and easier to remember.
> 2. Apache's website has slower access to the developer in China, so there
> is a mirror website weex-project.io for Chinese developer.
> 3. We expect to support https on this website and support some of our own
> server functions, such as Q robots, article blog posts, etc.
>
> I would like to ask if apache has any restrictions on this third-party
> domain name, and look forward to hearing from you.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan


Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-19 Thread Myrle Krantz
I've created an INFRA ticket:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17872

I won't promise that INFRA can solve this, but hopefully they'll at least
look at it.

Feel free to add any details you have.

Best Regards,
Myrle

On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 7:18 AM Dan  wrote:

> Thanks, Jan, I will take a look at this.
>
> Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月18日周一 下午6:15写道:
>
> > Cordova uses the npm package `insight` for telemetry, you can see more
> > in these two files:
> > https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/telemetry.js
> > https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/cli.js
> > The data being tracked is very limited, and all done only after
> > explicit opt-in by the user. (You get a prompt when you first install
> > Cordova).
> > The dashboard itself is built on the Google Analytics data source that
> > collects the data for pretty graphs.
> >
> > One problem: I am under the impression that Google Analytics is
> > blocked for good parts of Chinese users, so Cordova's data regarding
> > usage in China is probably very broken.
> >
> > -J
> >
> > Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 08:29 Uhr schrieb Dan :
> > >
> > > Hi Jan,
> > >
> > > Thanks for getting back to me.
> > >
> > > Your opinion has helped us a lot. We will migrate the deployment of the
> > > document to weex.apache.org in these two days.
> > >
> > > BTW, do you know the detail about how to do the user-track bellow the
> > > apache way, I know the Cordova has telemetry.cordova.io to record it,
> > and
> > > we also want to record the user's behavior in the weex-toolkit to help
> us
> > > better improve the tool experience.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月15日周五 下午7:42写道:
> > >
> > > > Besides what the rules say (which I don't really know):
> > > >
> > > > An apache.org domain has an incredible effect on credibility and
> > > > trust. Apache is a really strong brand with developers, and
> especially
> > > > new projects like Weex can benefit from that.
> > > >
> > > > (The project will be called "Apache Weex" anyway)
> > > >
> > > > Apache Cordova owns the cordova.io domain and uses it as a redirect
> to
> > > > cordova.apache.org. That way we can still tell people to go to
> > > > "cordova.io", but on Google and in user's browser everything happens
> > > > on apache.cordova.org. We also have loads of subdomains like
> > > > blog.cordova.io issues.cordova.io, slack.cordova.io,
> > > > telemetry.cordova.io and so on as shortcuts which is very handy.
> > > >
> > > > Using the domains you mentioned, weex.io could redirect to
> > > > weex.apache.org, docs.weex.io redirects to weex.apache.org/docs,
> > > > blog.weex.io to weex.apache.org/blog and so on. Then cn.weex.io
> could
> > > > redirect to weex-project.io for easier finding of the Chinese
> domain.
> > > >
> > > > -J
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On 15. Feb 2019, at 07:38, Dan  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, Myrle/Willem,
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently, we have a domain name of weex.io and want to use it to
> > > > replace
> > > > > the previous weex-project.io domain name for the following
> reasons:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. The domain name is shorter and easier to remember.
> > > > > 2. Apache's website has slower access to the developer in China, so
> > there
> > > > > is a mirror website weex-project.io for Chinese developer.
> > > > > 3. We expect to support https on this website and support some of
> > our own
> > > > > server functions, such as Q robots, article blog posts, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to ask if apache has any restrictions on this
> > third-party
> > > > > domain name, and look forward to hearing from you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Dan
> > > >
> >
>


Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-18 Thread Dan
Thanks, Jan, I will take a look at this.

Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月18日周一 下午6:15写道:

> Cordova uses the npm package `insight` for telemetry, you can see more
> in these two files:
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/telemetry.js
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/cli.js
> The data being tracked is very limited, and all done only after
> explicit opt-in by the user. (You get a prompt when you first install
> Cordova).
> The dashboard itself is built on the Google Analytics data source that
> collects the data for pretty graphs.
>
> One problem: I am under the impression that Google Analytics is
> blocked for good parts of Chinese users, so Cordova's data regarding
> usage in China is probably very broken.
>
> -J
>
> Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 08:29 Uhr schrieb Dan :
> >
> > Hi Jan,
> >
> > Thanks for getting back to me.
> >
> > Your opinion has helped us a lot. We will migrate the deployment of the
> > document to weex.apache.org in these two days.
> >
> > BTW, do you know the detail about how to do the user-track bellow the
> > apache way, I know the Cordova has telemetry.cordova.io to record it,
> and
> > we also want to record the user's behavior in the weex-toolkit to help us
> > better improve the tool experience.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> > Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月15日周五 下午7:42写道:
> >
> > > Besides what the rules say (which I don't really know):
> > >
> > > An apache.org domain has an incredible effect on credibility and
> > > trust. Apache is a really strong brand with developers, and especially
> > > new projects like Weex can benefit from that.
> > >
> > > (The project will be called "Apache Weex" anyway)
> > >
> > > Apache Cordova owns the cordova.io domain and uses it as a redirect to
> > > cordova.apache.org. That way we can still tell people to go to
> > > "cordova.io", but on Google and in user's browser everything happens
> > > on apache.cordova.org. We also have loads of subdomains like
> > > blog.cordova.io issues.cordova.io, slack.cordova.io,
> > > telemetry.cordova.io and so on as shortcuts which is very handy.
> > >
> > > Using the domains you mentioned, weex.io could redirect to
> > > weex.apache.org, docs.weex.io redirects to weex.apache.org/docs,
> > > blog.weex.io to weex.apache.org/blog and so on. Then cn.weex.io could
> > > redirect to weex-project.io for easier finding of the Chinese domain.
> > >
> > > -J
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 15. Feb 2019, at 07:38, Dan  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Myrle/Willem,
> > > >
> > > > Currently, we have a domain name of weex.io and want to use it to
> > > replace
> > > > the previous weex-project.io domain name for the following reasons:
> > > >
> > > > 1. The domain name is shorter and easier to remember.
> > > > 2. Apache's website has slower access to the developer in China, so
> there
> > > > is a mirror website weex-project.io for Chinese developer.
> > > > 3. We expect to support https on this website and support some of
> our own
> > > > server functions, such as Q robots, article blog posts, etc.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to ask if apache has any restrictions on this
> third-party
> > > > domain name, and look forward to hearing from you.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Dan
> > >
>


Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-18 Thread Jan Piotrowski
Cordova uses the npm package `insight` for telemetry, you can see more
in these two files:
https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/telemetry.js
https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/blob/master/src/cli.js
The data being tracked is very limited, and all done only after
explicit opt-in by the user. (You get a prompt when you first install
Cordova).
The dashboard itself is built on the Google Analytics data source that
collects the data for pretty graphs.

One problem: I am under the impression that Google Analytics is
blocked for good parts of Chinese users, so Cordova's data regarding
usage in China is probably very broken.

-J

Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 08:29 Uhr schrieb Dan :
>
> Hi Jan,
>
> Thanks for getting back to me.
>
> Your opinion has helped us a lot. We will migrate the deployment of the
> document to weex.apache.org in these two days.
>
> BTW, do you know the detail about how to do the user-track bellow the
> apache way, I know the Cordova has telemetry.cordova.io to record it, and
> we also want to record the user's behavior in the weex-toolkit to help us
> better improve the tool experience.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
> Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月15日周五 下午7:42写道:
>
> > Besides what the rules say (which I don't really know):
> >
> > An apache.org domain has an incredible effect on credibility and
> > trust. Apache is a really strong brand with developers, and especially
> > new projects like Weex can benefit from that.
> >
> > (The project will be called "Apache Weex" anyway)
> >
> > Apache Cordova owns the cordova.io domain and uses it as a redirect to
> > cordova.apache.org. That way we can still tell people to go to
> > "cordova.io", but on Google and in user's browser everything happens
> > on apache.cordova.org. We also have loads of subdomains like
> > blog.cordova.io issues.cordova.io, slack.cordova.io,
> > telemetry.cordova.io and so on as shortcuts which is very handy.
> >
> > Using the domains you mentioned, weex.io could redirect to
> > weex.apache.org, docs.weex.io redirects to weex.apache.org/docs,
> > blog.weex.io to weex.apache.org/blog and so on. Then cn.weex.io could
> > redirect to weex-project.io for easier finding of the Chinese domain.
> >
> > -J
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 15. Feb 2019, at 07:38, Dan  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, Myrle/Willem,
> > >
> > > Currently, we have a domain name of weex.io and want to use it to
> > replace
> > > the previous weex-project.io domain name for the following reasons:
> > >
> > > 1. The domain name is shorter and easier to remember.
> > > 2. Apache's website has slower access to the developer in China, so there
> > > is a mirror website weex-project.io for Chinese developer.
> > > 3. We expect to support https on this website and support some of our own
> > > server functions, such as Q robots, article blog posts, etc.
> > >
> > > I would like to ask if apache has any restrictions on this third-party
> > > domain name, and look forward to hearing from you.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dan
> >


Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-17 Thread Dan
Hi Jan,

Thanks for getting back to me.

Your opinion has helped us a lot. We will migrate the deployment of the
document to weex.apache.org in these two days.

BTW, do you know the detail about how to do the user-track bellow the
apache way, I know the Cordova has telemetry.cordova.io to record it, and
we also want to record the user's behavior in the weex-toolkit to help us
better improve the tool experience.

Thanks,
Dan

Jan Piotrowski  于2019年2月15日周五 下午7:42写道:

> Besides what the rules say (which I don't really know):
>
> An apache.org domain has an incredible effect on credibility and
> trust. Apache is a really strong brand with developers, and especially
> new projects like Weex can benefit from that.
>
> (The project will be called "Apache Weex" anyway)
>
> Apache Cordova owns the cordova.io domain and uses it as a redirect to
> cordova.apache.org. That way we can still tell people to go to
> "cordova.io", but on Google and in user's browser everything happens
> on apache.cordova.org. We also have loads of subdomains like
> blog.cordova.io issues.cordova.io, slack.cordova.io,
> telemetry.cordova.io and so on as shortcuts which is very handy.
>
> Using the domains you mentioned, weex.io could redirect to
> weex.apache.org, docs.weex.io redirects to weex.apache.org/docs,
> blog.weex.io to weex.apache.org/blog and so on. Then cn.weex.io could
> redirect to weex-project.io for easier finding of the Chinese domain.
>
> -J
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 15. Feb 2019, at 07:38, Dan  wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Myrle/Willem,
> >
> > Currently, we have a domain name of weex.io and want to use it to
> replace
> > the previous weex-project.io domain name for the following reasons:
> >
> > 1. The domain name is shorter and easier to remember.
> > 2. Apache's website has slower access to the developer in China, so there
> > is a mirror website weex-project.io for Chinese developer.
> > 3. We expect to support https on this website and support some of our own
> > server functions, such as Q robots, article blog posts, etc.
> >
> > I would like to ask if apache has any restrictions on this third-party
> > domain name, and look forward to hearing from you.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
>


Re: [DISCUSS] can we use weex.io as the short domain name for the apache project

2019-02-15 Thread Jan Piotrowski
Besides what the rules say (which I don't really know):

An apache.org domain has an incredible effect on credibility and
trust. Apache is a really strong brand with developers, and especially
new projects like Weex can benefit from that.

(The project will be called "Apache Weex" anyway)

Apache Cordova owns the cordova.io domain and uses it as a redirect to
cordova.apache.org. That way we can still tell people to go to
"cordova.io", but on Google and in user's browser everything happens
on apache.cordova.org. We also have loads of subdomains like
blog.cordova.io issues.cordova.io, slack.cordova.io,
telemetry.cordova.io and so on as shortcuts which is very handy.

Using the domains you mentioned, weex.io could redirect to
weex.apache.org, docs.weex.io redirects to weex.apache.org/docs,
blog.weex.io to weex.apache.org/blog and so on. Then cn.weex.io could
redirect to weex-project.io for easier finding of the Chinese domain.

-J







> On 15. Feb 2019, at 07:38, Dan  wrote:
>
> Hi, Myrle/Willem,
>
> Currently, we have a domain name of weex.io and want to use it to replace
> the previous weex-project.io domain name for the following reasons:
>
> 1. The domain name is shorter and easier to remember.
> 2. Apache's website has slower access to the developer in China, so there
> is a mirror website weex-project.io for Chinese developer.
> 3. We expect to support https on this website and support some of our own
> server functions, such as Q robots, article blog posts, etc.
>
> I would like to ask if apache has any restrictions on this third-party
> domain name, and look forward to hearing from you.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan