Re: Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

2019-05-11 Thread Han Yuwei via dev-security-policy
Thanks for that. So now I should send another email to rev...@digicert.com or 
just wait for revocation? And who should I contact if this address doesn't work?
在 2019年5月10日星期五 UTC+8上午8:26:09,Jeremy Rowley写道:
> No argument from me there. We generally act on them no matter what.
> Typically any email sent to supp...@digicert.com requesting revocation is
> forwarded to rev...@digicert.com. That's the standard procedure. This one
> was missed unfortunately.
> 
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> 
> I personally do think that it matters to this forum. A CA - no matter what
> kind of certificates it issues - must take revocation requests seriously and
> act immediately, even if the email is sent to the wrong address. If an
> employee at the help desk is unable to forward revocation requests, or needs
> several weeks to reply, then there is something not correct with the CA, no
> matter if the revocation request is related to a web certificate or code
> signing certificate. That's my opinion on this case.
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RE: Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

2019-05-09 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
No argument from me there. We generally act on them no matter what.
Typically any email sent to supp...@digicert.com requesting revocation is
forwarded to rev...@digicert.com. That's the standard procedure. This one
was missed unfortunately.

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Subject: RE: Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

I personally do think that it matters to this forum. A CA - no matter what
kind of certificates it issues - must take revocation requests seriously and
act immediately, even if the email is sent to the wrong address. If an
employee at the help desk is unable to forward revocation requests, or needs
several weeks to reply, then there is something not correct with the CA, no
matter if the revocation request is related to a web certificate or code
signing certificate. That's my opinion on this case.
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RE: Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

2019-05-09 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
Thanks Wayne. We’ll update our CPS to keep it clear.

 

From: Wayne Thayer  
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 5:04 PM
To: Andrew Ayer 
Cc: Jeremy Rowley ; Jeremy Rowley via 
dev-security-policy 
Subject: Re: Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

 

DigiCert CPS section 1.5.2 [1] could also more clearly state that 
rev...@digicert.com <mailto:rev...@digicert.com>  is the correct address for 
'reporting suspected Private Key Compromise, Certificate misuse, or other types 
of fraud, compromise, misuse, inappropriate conduct, or any other matter 
related to Certificates.' Since both email addresses are listed in that 
section, it's not difficult to mistake supp...@digicert.com 
<mailto:supp...@digicert.com>  as the problem reporting mechanism, even though 
the last sentence in 1.5.2.1 implies that rev...@digicert.com 
<mailto:rev...@digicert.com>  is for problem reporting. 

 

- Wayne

 

[1] https://www.digicert.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/DigiCert_CPS_v418.pdf

 

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 3:46 PM Andrew Ayer via dev-security-policy 
mailto:dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> > wrote:

On Thu, 9 May 2019 14:47:05 +
Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
mailto:dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> > wrote:

> Hi Han - the proper alias is rev...@digicert.com <mailto:rev...@digicert.com> 
> . The support alias
> will sometimes handle these, but not always.

Is that also true of SSL certificates?  supp...@digicert.com 
<mailto:supp...@digicert.com>  is listed
first at
https://ccadb-public.secure.force.com/mozilla/ProblemReportingMechanismsReport

That should be fixed if supp...@digicert.com <mailto:supp...@digicert.com>  is 
not the right place to
report problems with SSL certificates.

Regards,
Andrew
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Re: Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

2019-05-09 Thread Wayne Thayer via dev-security-policy
DigiCert CPS section 1.5.2 [1] could also more clearly state that
rev...@digicert.com is the correct address for 'reporting suspected Private
Key Compromise, Certificate misuse, or other types of fraud, compromise,
misuse, inappropriate conduct, or any other matter related to
Certificates.' Since both email addresses are listed in that section, it's
not difficult to mistake supp...@digicert.com as the problem reporting
mechanism, even though the last sentence in 1.5.2.1 implies that
rev...@digicert.com is for problem reporting.

- Wayne

[1]
https://www.digicert.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/DigiCert_CPS_v418.pdf

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 3:46 PM Andrew Ayer via dev-security-policy <
dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 9 May 2019 14:47:05 +
> Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
>  wrote:
>
> > Hi Han - the proper alias is rev...@digicert.com. The support alias
> > will sometimes handle these, but not always.
>
> Is that also true of SSL certificates?  supp...@digicert.com is listed
> first at
>
> https://ccadb-public.secure.force.com/mozilla/ProblemReportingMechanismsReport
>
> That should be fixed if supp...@digicert.com is not the right place to
> report problems with SSL certificates.
>
> Regards,
> Andrew
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RE: Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

2019-05-09 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
Thanks Andrew. Yes - it should be rev...@digicert.com

-Original Message-
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To: Jeremy Rowley 
Cc: Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy

Subject: Re: Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

On Thu, 9 May 2019 14:47:05 +
Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
 wrote:

> Hi Han - the proper alias is rev...@digicert.com. The support alias 
> will sometimes handle these, but not always.

Is that also true of SSL certificates?  supp...@digicert.com is listed first
at
https://ccadb-public.secure.force.com/mozilla/ProblemReportingMechanismsRepo
rt

That should be fixed if supp...@digicert.com is not the right place to
report problems with SSL certificates.

Regards,
Andrew



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Re: Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

2019-05-09 Thread Andrew Ayer via dev-security-policy
On Thu, 9 May 2019 14:47:05 +
Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
 wrote:

> Hi Han - the proper alias is rev...@digicert.com. The support alias
> will sometimes handle these, but not always.

Is that also true of SSL certificates?  supp...@digicert.com is listed
first at
https://ccadb-public.secure.force.com/mozilla/ProblemReportingMechanismsReport

That should be fixed if supp...@digicert.com is not the right place to
report problems with SSL certificates.

Regards,
Andrew
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RE: Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

2019-05-09 Thread Daniel Marschall via dev-security-policy
I personally do think that it matters to this forum. A CA - no matter what kind 
of certificates it issues - must take revocation requests seriously and act 
immediately, even if the email is sent to the wrong address. If an employee at 
the help desk is unable to forward revocation requests, or needs several weeks 
to reply, then there is something not correct with the CA, no matter if the 
revocation request is related to a web certificate or code signing certificate. 
That's my opinion on this case.
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RE: Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

2019-05-09 Thread Jeremy Rowley via dev-security-policy
Hi Han - the proper alias is rev...@digicert.com. The support alias will
sometimes handle these, but not always. We picked up the request from your
post here and are working on it.

Of course, this is out of scope of the Mozilla policy since its code signing
only. 

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Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 8:37 AM
To: Han Yuwei 
Cc: mozilla-dev-security-policy

Subject: Re: Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 8:59 AM Han Yuwei via dev-security-policy <
dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

> Hi m.d.s.p
> I have reported a key compromise incident to digicert by contacting 
> support(at)digicert.com at Apr.13, 2019 and get replied at same day. 
> But it seems like this certificate is still valid.
> This certificate is a code signing certificate and known for signing 
> malware. So I am here to report this to Digicert. If private key is 
> needed I will attach it.
>
> Certificate Info.
> CN:Beijing Founder Apabi Technology Limited
> SN: 06B7AA2C37C0876CCB0378D895D71041
> SHA1: 8564928AA4FBC4BBECF65B402503B2BE3DC60D4D
>

Typically, we have not dealt with issues related to code signing in this
forum - particularly the evaluation and enforcement of policies. For
example, the information provided doesn't allow us to distinguish whether
there is even a remote chance of overlap with the activity here (e.g. with
respect to audits and the CP/CPS)

Have you considered reporting this to Microsoft, as I presume that's the
platform concern?
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Re: Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

2019-05-09 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 8:59 AM Han Yuwei via dev-security-policy <
dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

> Hi m.d.s.p
> I have reported a key compromise incident to digicert by contacting
> support(at)digicert.com at Apr.13, 2019 and get replied at same day. But
> it seems like this certificate is still valid.
> This certificate is a code signing certificate and known for signing
> malware. So I am here to report this to Digicert. If private key is needed
> I will attach it.
>
> Certificate Info.
> CN:Beijing Founder Apabi Technology Limited
> SN: 06B7AA2C37C0876CCB0378D895D71041
> SHA1: 8564928AA4FBC4BBECF65B402503B2BE3DC60D4D
>

Typically, we have not dealt with issues related to code signing in this
forum - particularly the evaluation and enforcement of policies. For
example, the information provided doesn't allow us to distinguish whether
there is even a remote chance of overlap with the activity here (e.g. with
respect to audits and the CP/CPS)

Have you considered reporting this to Microsoft, as I presume that's the
platform concern?
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Reported Digicert key compromise but not revoked

2019-05-09 Thread Han Yuwei via dev-security-policy
Hi m.d.s.p
I have reported a key compromise incident to digicert by contacting 
support(at)digicert.com at Apr.13, 2019 and get replied at same day. But it 
seems like this certificate is still valid.
This certificate is a code signing certificate and known for signing malware. 
So I am here to report this to Digicert. If private key is needed I will attach 
it.

Certificate Info.
CN:Beijing Founder Apabi Technology Limited
SN: 06B7AA2C37C0876CCB0378D895D71041
SHA1: 8564928AA4FBC4BBECF65B402503B2BE3DC60D4D
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