Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?

2013-10-31 Thread rrankin
I have run into an issue which seems to call into question the udev
paradigm for USB devices. In my case it has ramifications in
ModemManager and gpsd packages, but I see it as a fundamental problem
with udev which is in all current versions of Fedora.

My USB GPS is a BU-353 which uses a pl2303 USB-Serial Controller
(idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303). However, bugzilla report 878737
indicates this same interface chip is used on other devices such as
RS232-USB adapters. 

If the device is a GPS you do not want ModemManager run on it
(bugzilla 1023234) but you do want gpsctl to tell gpsd about it when
it is plugged in. If it is a RS232 adapter the opposite is true
(bugzilla 878737). Note that it is reported that the DU-353 can be
bricked if the wrong thing is written to it. 

After looking at the lsusb -v output for my BU-353 and the output for
RS232 devices reported on the net, I do not see any way to distinguish
between the two different types of devices that udev could use to tell
them apart.

Unless I am missing something this seems like a fatal flaw in the udev
paradigm.

Regards
Roy Rankin

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Re: Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?

2013-10-31 Thread Nicolas Mailhot

Le Jeu 31 octobre 2013 07:03, rran...@ihug.com.au a écrit :
 I have run into an issue which seems to call into question the udev
 paradigm for USB devices.

It's not a fatal flaw it's broken hardware (and autodetection broken by
device manufacturers not bothering to replace OEM id with their own is
nothing new or USB-specific)

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Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-10-31 Thread Nicolas Mailhot

Hi,

Anyway what makes xdg specs a total wreakage is the way they've replaced
dotfiles with other dotfiles only to create prettyfied localized symlinks
à la windows (a bad case of over-engineering and aping another os without
understanding drawbacks)

Had they specified a ~/xdg/ root, with a static directory hierarchy under
it, no hidden files, no you-need-to-run-a-command-to-known-where-stuff is,
no magic env variables, it would have been a sane environment for apps,
scripts, selinux, apparmor, etc

And they could even have auto-replaced the standard static names with
localized labels in GUI file browsers with no functionality loss at all.

As it is we got a frankeinspec, a little better than what existed before,
and completely hostile to anyone trying to actually use it to deploy
user-specific bits


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Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-10-31 Thread drago01
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Nicolas Mailhot
nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:

 Hi,

 Anyway what makes xdg specs a total wreakage is the way they've replaced
 dotfiles with other dotfiles only to create prettyfied localized symlinks

That's incorrect. The prettyfied localized symlinks are neither
symlinks nor are they hidden.

 à la windows (a bad case of over-engineering and aping another os without
 understanding drawbacks)

Seems like you do not really understand what you are criticizing.

 Had they specified a ~/xdg/ root, with a static directory hierarchy under
 it, no hidden files, no you-need-to-run-a-command-to-known-where-stuff is,
 no magic env variables, it would have been a sane environment for apps,
 scripts, selinux, apparmor, etc

The hidden directories replaced the mess that we had before where each
app stores stuff
in random (hidden) directories. Having a standardized directory
structure is actually
a sane environment. As for why they are hidden (and always have
been) is because you
do not want to bother the user with them most of the time.
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Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-10-31 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 10:12 +0100, drago01 wrote:
 As for why they are hidden (and always have been) is because you
 do not want to bother the user with them most of the time.

That being said, they could have not started by a ., but still be
hidden by the GUI file managers like Nautilus (for example by listing
them in a .hidden file).

That could have pleased those who don't like hidden files, while at the
same time not bothering users who don't want to see them.

In any case, it's not worth changing everything now.

I for one am happy that things are more and more moving to the .config
and .local folders. :)


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Re: Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?

2013-10-31 Thread Tom Hughes

On 31/10/13 08:42, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:


Le Jeu 31 octobre 2013 07:03, rran...@ihug.com.au a écrit :

I have run into an issue which seems to call into question the udev
paradigm for USB devices.


It's not a fatal flaw it's broken hardware (and autodetection broken by
device manufacturers not bothering to replace OEM id with their own is
nothing new or USB-specific)


It's also an issue that the NetworkManager/ModemManager developers are 
well aware of - a recent thread on the subject starts here:



https://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2013-October/msg00037.html

with details of how ModemManager deals with the problem here:


https://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2013-October/msg00046.html

so in short this device should be added to the greylist if it isn't 
there already, and then it will only be probed when such a probe is 
explicitly requested.


Note that F19 is using MM 0.6 so doesn't have the greylist.

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Re: Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?

2013-10-31 Thread Tom Hughes

On 31/10/13 09:56, Tom Hughes wrote:


so in short this device should be added to the greylist if it isn't
there already, and then it will only be probed when such a probe is
explicitly requested.


and the PL2303 is indeed in the greylist:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/ModemManager/ModemManager/tree/src/77-mm-usb-serial-adapters-greylist.rules#n20

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openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Reindl Harald
currently on a x86_64 system distro-sync to F19 is broken
i saw the same in F18 with updates-testing enabled on
a machine with i686 packages some days ago and download
the openssl packages for both archs from koji and
doing a yum localupdate worked fine

Error: Package: 1:openssl-1.0.1e-29.fc18.i686 (@/openssl-1.0.1e-29.fc18.i686/18)
   Requires: openssl-libs(x86-32) = 1:1.0.1e-29.fc18
   Removing: 1:openssl-libs-1.0.1e-29.fc18.i686 
(@/openssl-libs-1.0.1e-29.fc18.i686/18)
   openssl-libs(x86-32) = 1:1.0.1e-29.fc18
   Updated By: 1:openssl-libs-1.0.1e-30.fc19.i686 (updates)
   openssl-libs(x86-32) = 1:1.0.1e-30.fc19
   Available: 1:openssl-libs-1.0.1e-4.fc19.i686 (fedora)
   openssl-libs(x86-32) = 1:1.0.1e-4.fc19



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[perl-Authen-Radius] Created tag perl-Authen-Radius-0.23-1.fc21

2013-10-31 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Authen-Radius-0.23-1.fc21' was created pointing to:

 131534e... Update to 0.23
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting #2, Thursday, October 31 @ 17:00 UTC

2013-10-31 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-2 for this important
meeting, wherein we shall determine the readiness of the Fedora 20 Beta.

This is the second attempt to release Fedora 20 Beta. Currently, we're
waiting for possible RC1 compose.

Thursday, October 31, 2013 17:00 UTC (1 PM EDT, 10 AM PDT, 18:00 CET)

Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet
to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release.
This meeting is called the Go/No-Go Meeting.

Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of
the QA Team.

For more details about this meeting see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting

In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 20 Beta Blocker list:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/20/beta/buglist

PS: sorry for late reminder but I'm sick...

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Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-10-31 Thread Tim Lauridsen
I have tested gnome-software to see the current state, compaired to gpk in
F19, there is a lot stuff there cant be done.

1. You cant install backgrounds / icons
2. Not all application found in the menu, can be found under installed, you
can search for them and find them, but cant remove them (ex. Document
viewer)
3. if you search for 'icons' you get at lot of wrong positives, where there
is no visible relation to icons in the text shown
4. Description is missing from almost every application.

This is just a few of the issues i have made bug reports on, but the main
question is gnome-software ready for the one an only software manager for
the primary
desktop for Fedora ?

I think the current state will make Fedora look limitted for new Fedora
users.

PS. Please dont turn this into a flame war for/against gnome :)

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Taskbot: TAP vs Subunit

2013-10-31 Thread Josef Skladanka
Tim (and of course the rest of the gang ;)),

During our chat with Tim, we agreed that we'd really like to use some 
standardized 'output format' for the tests in Taskbot, to be a bit more 
programming-language/results-store-implementation agnostic.
We knew about two options - TAP 
http://testanything.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page and Subunit 
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-subunit.

= Subunit =

At least in Python is quite tightly coupled with unittest, both ideologically 
and practically. I was unable to find a way to just produce a Subunit stream 
without the need of actually running a testsuite. 

The format is (basically) just plain PASS/FAIL/INFO/..., and there is 
possibility to add some 'details'results. It should also be possible to add an 
attachment to the end of the stream, but no result-specific data can be added 
(IMO).

Also Subunit is now in the process of transition to new implementation, which 
now should fix some issues with concurrency, add more result-states, etc., but 
will be binary, so human readability would quite suffer.

I do not really feel that this is a good match for our needs (at least without 
any significant hacking)

= TAP =

TAP is not unittest-specific, and is human-readable plaintext format.

It also has just PASS/FAIL logic, but there is a possibility to add YAML 
'metadata' to any result (since TAP v. 13).

The real issue with TAP is Python support. 
There is a TAP-consumer library created as an example for PyParsing 
http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/file/detail/TAP.py, but it does not support 
the v13 protocol, and is quite useless as such.
TAP-producer library for Python https://github.com/rjbs/pytap is also using 
the old version (i.e. no YAML extensions), and seems to be dead (2 years since 
last update). It is also quite badly written.


= Result =

Although neither choice is ideal, I feel that TAP would be the better choice, 
even though it would mean implementing our own producer/parser.
Also the TAP is really simplistic format, so creating a TAP output should be 
quite easy even in any programming language.

It is possible that I somehow utterly misunderstood the Subunit concept, so it 
might be useful to contact some QAs currently using it (I thing Tim mentioned 
something about OpenStack?), or contact the developer directly.


J.
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Broken dependencies: perl-MIME-Lite-HTML

2013-10-31 Thread buildsys


perl-MIME-Lite-HTML has broken dependencies in the F-20 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-MIME-Lite-HTML-1.24-4.fc18.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.0)
On i386:
perl-MIME-Lite-HTML-1.24-4.fc18.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.0)
On armhfp:
perl-MIME-Lite-HTML-1.24-4.fc18.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.0)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Padre

2013-10-31 Thread buildsys


perl-Padre has broken dependencies in the F-20 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Padre-0.90-6.fc18.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.0)
On i386:
perl-Padre-0.90-6.fc18.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.0)
On armhfp:
perl-Padre-0.90-6.fc18.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.0)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-BerkeleyDB

2013-10-31 Thread buildsys


perl-BerkeleyDB has broken dependencies in the F-20 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-BerkeleyDB-0.53-1.fc20.x86_64 requires libdb = 0:5.3.21
On i386:
perl-BerkeleyDB-0.53-1.fc20.i686 requires libdb = 0:5.3.21
On armhfp:
perl-BerkeleyDB-0.53-1.fc20.armv7hl requires libdb = 0:5.3.21
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-PDL

2013-10-31 Thread buildsys


perl-PDL has broken dependencies in the F-20 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-PDL-2.4.10-6.fc19.x86_64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
perl-PDL-2.4.10-6.fc19.x86_64 requires libgd.so.2()(64bit)
On i386:
perl-PDL-2.4.10-6.fc19.i686 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
perl-PDL-2.4.10-6.fc19.i686 requires libgd.so.2
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Language-Expr

2013-10-31 Thread buildsys


perl-Language-Expr has broken dependencies in the F-20 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
On i386:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
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On armhfp:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
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Broken dependencies: slic3r

2013-10-31 Thread buildsys


slic3r has broken dependencies in the F-20 tree:
On x86_64:
slic3r-0.9.10b-2.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.3)
On i386:
slic3r-0.9.10b-2.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.3)
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slic3r-0.9.10b-2.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.3)
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Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-10-31 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 12:13 +0100, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
 I have tested gnome-software to see the current state, compaired to
 gpk in F19, there is a lot stuff there cant be done.
 
 
 1. You cant install backgrounds / icons

It is an application installer, first and foremost. Installing
backgrounds/icons/themes is not a priority. That being said, 3.11 can
install fonts and codecs.

 2. Not all application found in the menu, can be found under
 installed, you can search for them and find them, but cant remove them
 (ex. Document viewer)

What menu ? And what application ?

We have a notion of 'core app' - for things that 'come with the OS'. We
don't allow to uninstall those. 

 3. if you search for 'icons' you get at lot of wrong positives, where
 there is no visible relation to icons in the text shown

Search looks at keywords from desktop files in addition to descriptions
and names. Would be good to see some concrete examples of the false
positives you get. I only get gnome-tweak-tool and some icon-related
font.

 4. Description is missing from almost every application.

Richard has pushed very hard for getting descriptions upstream - you may
have seen his repeated posts on this topic. And we have made quite a bit
of progress. But getting every application equipped with a good
description, screenshots, and other metadata will take some time, and
some help from the packagers and maintainers of those applications.

 I think the current state will make Fedora look limitted for new
 Fedora users.

Compared to Ubuntu, certainly. But compared to gpk-application F19, I
don't think so.


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Re: Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?

2013-10-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:52:18 +0100,
  Florian Weimer fwei...@redhat.com wrote:
I might be missing something, but to me that seems just life with a 
generic transport that doesn't have built-in identification of 
connected devices.  This applies to RS232 (your case), but also to 
the (classic) parallel port and even to Ethernet.  In such cases, 
plug-and-play won't work, but that doesn't seem like a big deal to 
me.


PCI devices can have the same problem. To use my TDM2400 I need to blacklist 
netjet to prevent netjet's driver from trying to manage the device.

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F-20 Branched report: 20131031 changes

2013-10-31 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Oct 31 09:15:03 UTC 2013

Broken deps for armhfp
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perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
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Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 11:12:41 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:

 currently on a x86_64 system distro-sync to F19 is broken
 i saw the same in F18 with updates-testing enabled on
 a machine with i686 packages some days ago and download
 the openssl packages for both archs from koji and
 doing a yum localupdate worked fine
 
 Error: Package: 1:openssl-1.0.1e-29.fc18.i686 
 (@/openssl-1.0.1e-29.fc18.i686/18)


Where did you find openssl.i686 in the x86_64 repos?
Did you download it from koji? The repo id in brackets is suspicious.

Here is only openssl.x86_64 release -30.fc18:
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/18/x86_64/

Here is only openssl.x86_64 release -28.fc18:
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/18/x86_64/

It seems to me the openssl base package is not pulled in by the multilib
composer (because openssl-devel only requires openssl-libs).
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Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 31.10.2013 13:49, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
 On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 11:12:41 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
 
 currently on a x86_64 system distro-sync to F19 is broken
 i saw the same in F18 with updates-testing enabled on
 a machine with i686 packages some days ago and download
 the openssl packages for both archs from koji and
 doing a yum localupdate worked fine

 Error: Package: 1:openssl-1.0.1e-29.fc18.i686 
 (@/openssl-1.0.1e-29.fc18.i686/18)
 
 Where did you find openssl.i686 in the x86_64 repos?
 Did you download it from koji? The repo id in brackets is suspicious.
 
 Here is only openssl.x86_64 release -30.fc18:
 http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/18/x86_64/
 
 Here is only openssl.x86_64 release -28.fc18:
 http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/18/x86_64/

yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update openssl\* did not work because
different versions for x86_64 and i686 and so i downloaded it from koji

 It seems to me the openssl base package is not pulled in by the multilib
 composer (because openssl-devel only requires openssl-libs)

but skype or whatever pulls dependencies





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Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-10-31 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.comwrote:

 On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 12:13 +0100, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
  I have tested gnome-software to see the current state, compaired to
  gpk in F19, there is a lot stuff there cant be done.
 
 
  1. You cant install backgrounds / icons

 It is an application installer, first and foremost. Installing
 backgrounds/icons/themes is not a priority. That being said, 3.11 can
 install fonts and codecs.


I know that it is an application installer, but user want to install
content also
and gpk can do that, so it is a regression in my world.

gnome-software cant install extra backgrounds and icons
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1025209




  2. Not all application found in the menu, can be found under
  installed, you can search for them and find them, but cant remove them
  (ex. Document viewer)

 What menu ? And what application ?

 We have a notion of 'core app' - for things that 'come with the OS'. We
 don't allow to uninstall those.


It feels inconsitance that i cant remove evince, but it can remove other
gnome apps like boxes and documents

gnome-software dont show all installed applications
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1025250


  3. if you search for 'icons' you get at lot of wrong positives, where
  there is no visible relation to icons in the text shown

 Search looks at keywords from desktop files in addition to descriptions
 and names. Would be good to see some concrete examples of the false
 positives you get. I only get gnome-tweak-tool and some icon-related
 font.


search in package description, but dont show it
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1021889


  4. Description is missing from almost every application.

 Richard has pushed very hard for getting descriptions upstream - you may
 have seen his repeated posts on this topic. And we have made quite a bit
 of progress. But getting every application equipped with a good
 description, screenshots, and other metadata will take some time, and
 some help from the packagers and maintainers of those applications.


I know Richard has pushed hard to get appdata for apps, but it do help the
end user, if lot of apps in gnome-software dont have any descriptions.

Look at System - File Tools - Caja-actions configuration tool

How should an end user have a clue what this app does ?


  I think the current state will make Fedora look limitted for new
  Fedora users.

 Compared to Ubuntu, certainly. But compared to gpk-application F19, I
 don't think so.


A tool like gnome-software targets novice enduser (IMHO) and more advanced
user will tools like yum, dnf or yumex
So I try to look at it like a novice end user, and they fill see a more
friendly user interface, but they will not be able to find the things they
are look for.
The Fedora art team has done a great job find good extra background images,
but you have to use a command line to install it on the current F10 gnome
desktop, I is not
a good user experiense i my book.
Personal it is not a problem for me, but I would like Fedora to be as good
as possible for new users, so i took some time to install the gnome desktop
and check the state of thing
and report the issues I have found.

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[perl-Types-Serialiser] Created tag perl-Types-Serialiser-0.03-2.fc18

2013-10-31 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Types-Serialiser-0.03-2.fc18' was created pointing to:

 ef9e8ef... Initial import (perl-Types-Serialiser-0.03-2)
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Broken dependencies: perl-Language-Expr

2013-10-31 Thread buildsys


perl-Language-Expr has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
On i386:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
On armhfp:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-10-31 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 14:31 +0100, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
 
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com
 wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 12:13 +0100, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
  I have tested gnome-software to see the current state,
 compaired to
  gpk in F19, there is a lot stuff there cant be done.
 
 
  1. You cant install backgrounds / icons
 
 
 It is an application installer, first and foremost. Installing
 backgrounds/icons/themes is not a priority. That being said,
 3.11 can
 install fonts and codecs.
 
 
 I know that it is an application installer, but user want to install
 content also
 and gpk can do that, so it is a regression in my world.

'Regression' does not really apply. gnome-software is not aiming to be a
1-1 replacement for gpk-application. Wrt to backgrounds, I would say
that installing them in packages is really suboptimal, and we should
look for ways to make backgrounds from online sources show up in the
background panel.

 
 I know Richard has pushed hard to get appdata for apps, but it do help
 the
 end user, if lot of apps in gnome-software dont have any descriptions.
 
 
 Look at System - File Tools - Caja-actions configuration tool

Get the cinnamon guys to fork the nautilus appdata ? I'm sure it will
only need minor adjustments... :-)

 Personal it is not a problem for me, but I would like Fedora to be as
 good as possible for new users, so i took some time to install the
 gnome desktop and check the state of thing
 and report the issues I have found.

Thanks for doing that. Your feedback is appreciated!




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Re: Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?

2013-10-31 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, rran...@ihug.com.au rran...@ihug.com.au said:
 My USB GPS is a BU-353 which uses a pl2303 USB-Serial Controller
 (idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303). However, bugzilla report 878737
 indicates this same interface chip is used on other devices such as
 RS232-USB adapters. 

The PL2303 chip and a few other USB RS232 chips are used in many devices
(as well as straight USB-RS232 adapter cables), however most of them
fail to properly identify themselvs.  Most PL2303 devices don't even
bother to set a serial number, much less sub-IDs, making it almost
impossible to distinguish between them.

This is not a flaw in udev; this is a flaw in how hardware makers use
the chips.  They essentially throw away a couple of decades of plug and
play work to assume you'll only ever use their device (a lot of their
Windows drivers grab every PL2303 in sight) or you'll manually
configure everything.

The best (and I use that term loosely) way to handle many of these
poorly-designed devices is to always plug them in the same USB port, and
then write udev rules that match particular device/bus/port
combinations.

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Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 13:56:53 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:

  currently on a x86_64 system distro-sync to F19 is broken
  i saw the same in F18 with updates-testing enabled on
  a machine with i686 packages some days ago and download
  the openssl packages for both archs from koji and
  doing a yum localupdate worked fine
 
  Error: Package: 1:openssl-1.0.1e-29.fc18.i686 
  (@/openssl-1.0.1e-29.fc18.i686/18)
  
  Where did you find openssl.i686 in the x86_64 repos?
  Did you download it from koji? The repo id in brackets is suspicious.
  
  Here is only openssl.x86_64 release -30.fc18:
  http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/18/x86_64/
  
  Here is only openssl.x86_64 release -28.fc18:
  http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/18/x86_64/
 
 yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update openssl\* did not work because
 different versions for x86_64 and i686 and so i downloaded it from koji

Why did you have openssl.i686 installed on x86_64 to begin with?
You have messed up your installation. :-(
Have you use rpm -Uvh instead of rpm -Fvh? Or why have you installed
openssl.i686?

  It seems to me the openssl base package is not pulled in by the multilib
  composer (because openssl-devel only requires openssl-libs)
 
 but skype or whatever pulls dependencies

Skype is not included with Fedora. Skype does not (and cannot) influence
which packages are multilib'ed when the repos are composed. Skype 32-bit
doesn't depend on openssl. What on your machine depends on 32-bit openssl
and not openssl-libs?
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Re: Taskbot: TAP vs Subunit

2013-10-31 Thread Kamil Paral
 = TAP =
 
 TAP is not unittest-specific, and is human-readable plaintext format.
 
 It also has just PASS/FAIL logic, but there is a possibility to add YAML
 'metadata' to any result (since TAP v. 13).
 
 The real issue with TAP is Python support.
 There is a TAP-consumer library created as an example for PyParsing
 http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/file/detail/TAP.py, but it does not
 support the v13 protocol, and is quite useless as such.
 TAP-producer library for Python https://github.com/rjbs/pytap is also using
 the old version (i.e. no YAML extensions), and seems to be dead (2 years
 since last update). It is also quite badly written.

Doesn't autotest support TAP results storage? How do they do it?

Lucas, can you comment? Thanks.
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Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.10.2013 16:14, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
 On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 13:56:53 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
 currently on a x86_64 system distro-sync to F19 is broken
 i saw the same in F18 with updates-testing enabled on
 a machine with i686 packages some days ago and download
 the openssl packages for both archs from koji and
 doing a yum localupdate worked fine

 Error: Package: 1:openssl-1.0.1e-29.fc18.i686 
 (@/openssl-1.0.1e-29.fc18.i686/18)

 Where did you find openssl.i686 in the x86_64 repos?
 Did you download it from koji? The repo id in brackets is suspicious.

 Here is only openssl.x86_64 release -30.fc18:
 http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/18/x86_64/

 Here is only openssl.x86_64 release -28.fc18:
 http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/18/x86_64/

 yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update openssl\* did not work because
 different versions for x86_64 and i686 and so i downloaded it from koji
 
 Why did you have openssl.i686 installed on x86_64 to begin with?
 You have messed up your installation. :-(
 Have you use rpm -Uvh instead of rpm -Fvh? Or why have you installed
 openssl.i686?

the machine has a long history

 It seems to me the openssl base package is not pulled in by the multilib
 composer (because openssl-devel only requires openssl-libs)

 but skype or whatever pulls dependencies
 
 Skype is not included with Fedora. Skype does not (and cannot) influence
 which packages are multilib'ed when the repos are composed. Skype 32-bit
 doesn't depend on openssl. What on your machine depends on 32-bit openssl
 and not openssl-libs?

i was the impression that in such cases all or nothing should be x86_64 and i686
or at least if both can be installed parallel they are also updated clean



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Re: Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?

2013-10-31 Thread DJ Delorie

Can you wildcard the greylist so that modemmanager *never* runs?  I
haven't used a modem in decades but MM keeps mucking with all my
serial-connected toys.
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[389-devel] lib389: cleanup __init__

2013-10-31 Thread Roberto Polli
Hi @all,

I started investigating in mocking with fakeldap, and it seems an easy and 
viable way of adding unittests.

A main issue is the DSAdmin.__init__ complexity.

I thought - a long time ago actually - to remove from DSAdmin all cached 
references to backends, suffixes and configuration.

If we want to add a cache layer we can do it afterward. And with some cache 
pattern.

Let me know + Peace,
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Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Andre Robatino
Michael Schwendt mschwendt at gmail.com writes:

 Skype is not included with Fedora. Skype does not (and cannot) influence
 which packages are multilib'ed when the repos are composed. Skype 32-bit
 doesn't depend on openssl. What on your machine depends on 32-bit openssl
 and not openssl-libs?

In F16, when I had 32-bit packages (namely Skype and Fedora's wine)
installed, I had both openssl.i686 and openssl.x86_64 installed, so
openssl.i686 is pulled in, directly or indirectly, by either Skype or wine.
It's easy to find out which one by trying to remove openssl.i686 to see what
it wants to remove with it.



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Re: Taskbot: TAP vs Subunit

2013-10-31 Thread Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues

On 10/31/2013 01:23 PM, Kamil Paral wrote:

= TAP =

TAP is not unittest-specific, and is human-readable plaintext format.

It also has just PASS/FAIL logic, but there is a possibility to add YAML
'metadata' to any result (since TAP v. 13).

The real issue with TAP is Python support.
There is a TAP-consumer library created as an example for PyParsing
http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/file/detail/TAP.py, but it does not
support the v13 protocol, and is quite useless as such.
TAP-producer library for Python https://github.com/rjbs/pytap is also using
the old version (i.e. no YAML extensions), and seems to be dead (2 years
since last update). It is also quite badly written.


Doesn't autotest support TAP results storage? How do they do it?


Autotest does support recording results in TAP format, due to the work 
made by a guy from AMD. Breaking the expectations that a TAP enabled 
test tool would just output tap on standard output, the autotest client 
can optionally produce files with the results in tap format, and those 
files can be further processed by other systems.


Let me make some runs here and show you examples.


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Re: [fedora-arm] Announcing Fedora 19 ARM remix for Allwinner SOCs release 3

2013-10-31 Thread Jozef Mlich
On Sun, 2013-10-13 at 23:29 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:

 I'm very happy to announce the third release (r3) of my Fedora 19 ARM
 remix images for Allwinner A10, A10s, A13 and A20 based devices. This
 release is based on the official Fedora 19 Final for ARM images,
 with u-boot and kernel(s) from the linux-sunxi project:
 http://linux-sunxi.org/
 
 http://people.fedoraproject.org/~jwrdegoede/a10-images/Fedora-19-a10-armhfp-r3.img.xz
 
 sha1sum: a57e5897e0c6047dbb473c438016d6364fd0709f

Hi Hans,

great job! I am trying to test your image on Cubieboard with 1GB RAM. So
far, it was working quite good for me. I had the only trouble with yum
update. It seems the mirrorlist variable is not working. I was trying
to use baseurl instead. 

However, the default value wasn't working for me. There should be
fedora-secondary instead of fedora in url. 

http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/fedora-secondary/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/

I am not sure if this is an issue for anyone else.

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Re: Taskbot: TAP vs Subunit

2013-10-31 Thread Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues

On 10/31/2013 01:23 PM, Kamil Paral wrote:

= TAP =

TAP is not unittest-specific, and is human-readable plaintext format.

It also has just PASS/FAIL logic, but there is a possibility to add YAML
'metadata' to any result (since TAP v. 13).

The real issue with TAP is Python support.
There is a TAP-consumer library created as an example for PyParsing
http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/file/detail/TAP.py, but it does not
support the v13 protocol, and is quite useless as such.
TAP-producer library for Python https://github.com/rjbs/pytap is also using
the old version (i.e. no YAML extensions), and seems to be dead (2 years
since last update). It is also quite badly written.


Doesn't autotest support TAP results storage? How do they do it?

Lucas, can you comment? Thanks.



Here you can see an example:

$ client/autotest-local --tap client/tests/sleeptest/control
14:11:58 INFO | Writing results to 
/home/lmr/Code/autotest.git/autotest/client/results/default

14:11:58 INFO | Could not symlink init scripts (lack of permissions)
14:11:58 INFO | Not logging /proc/slabinfo (lack of permissions)
14:11:58 INFO | START			timestamp=1383235918	localtime=Oct 31 
14:11:58	
14:11:58 INFO | 	START	sleeptest	sleeptest	timestamp=1383235918 
localtime=Oct 31 14:11:58	

14:11:58 INFO | Not logging /proc/slabinfo (lack of permissions)
14:11:59 INFO | Not logging /proc/slabinfo (lack of permissions)
14:11:59 INFO | Not logging /var/log/messages (lack of permissions)
14:11:59 INFO | 		GOOD	sleeptest	sleeptest	timestamp=1383235919 
localtime=Oct 31 14:11:59	completed successfully
14:11:59 INFO | 	END GOOD	sleeptest	sleeptest	timestamp=1383235919 
localtime=Oct 31 14:11:59	
14:11:59 INFO | END GOOD			timestamp=1383235919	localtime=Oct 
31 14:11:59	
14:11:59 INFO | Report successfully generated at 
/home/lmr/Code/autotest.git/autotest/client/results/default/job_report.html


$ cd /home/lmr/Code/autotest.git/autotest/client/results/default/

$ ls
control  control.state  debug  job_report.html  meta.yml  sleeptest 
status  status.json  status.tap  sysinfo  tap.tar.gz


$ cat meta.yml
file_order:
  - status.tap
  - sleeptest/status.tap
  - sleeptest/keyval.tap

$ cat status.tap
1..2
ok 1 - sleeptest
ok 2 - job

$ cat sleeptest/status.tap
1..1
ok 1 - sleeptest

$ cat sleeptest/keyval.tap
1..2
ok 1 - results
  ---
  param-seconds: 1
  version: 1
  ...
ok 2 - results
  ---
  sysinfo-cmdline: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.11.6-301.fc20.x86_64 
root=/dev/mapper/fedora-root ro rd.lvm.lv=fedora/swap rd.md=0 rd.dm=0 
rd.luks.uuid=luks-8c032338-feaa-456a-873c-a08c768b8861 
vconsole.keymap=us rd.lvm.lv=fedora/root rhgb quiet LANG=en_US.utf8

  sysinfo-memtotal-in-kb: 8061220
  sysinfo-phys-mbytes: 8192
  sysinfo-uname: 3.11.6-301.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Oct 21 21:54:19 UTC 
2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:29:18 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:

  Why did you have openssl.i686 installed on x86_64 to begin with?
  You have messed up your installation. :-(
  Have you use rpm -Uvh instead of rpm -Fvh? Or why have you installed
  openssl.i686?
 
 the machine has a long history

Well, then it needs to be cleaned up from time to time.

yum list extras as well as package-cleanup --orphans on an up-to-date
installation shows all packages, which are not available in the enabled
repos anymore. If you store everything you install directly via rpm in
a local repo, you can keep track of packages that have been dropped by
Fedora. Such as openssl.i686 for x86_64.

  Skype is not included with Fedora. Skype does not (and cannot) influence
  which packages are multilib'ed when the repos are composed. Skype 32-bit
  doesn't depend on openssl. What on your machine depends on 32-bit 
  openssl
  and not openssl-libs?
 
 i was the impression that in such cases all or nothing should be x86_64 and 
 i686
 or at least if both can be installed parallel they are also updated clean

Download mash src.rpm and examine it. The basic multilib repo compose
strategy is to make merge all *-devel packages and their dependencies plus
a few packages from a whitelist. It has been like that since Fedora Extras.
Typically, openssl-devel requires openssl-libs, and if the openssl base
package is not on the whitelist, something else would need to require it
arch-specific. No i686 pkg in the x86_64 repo does currently:

# repoquery --exactdeps --whatrequires 'openssl(x86-32)'
#

# repoquery --exactdeps --whatrequires 'openssl(x86-64)'
openssl-perl-1:1.0.1e-22.fc20.x86_64
openssl-perl-1:1.0.1e-29.fc20.x86_64

# repoquery --exactdeps --whatrequires openssl|wc -l
73
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Re: [389-devel] lib389: cleanup __init__

2013-10-31 Thread Rich Megginson

On 10/31/2013 09:58 AM, Roberto Polli wrote:

Hi @all,

I started investigating in mocking with fakeldap, and it seems an easy and
viable way of adding unittests.

A main issue is the DSAdmin.__init__ complexity.

I thought - a long time ago actually - to remove from DSAdmin all cached
references to backends, suffixes and configuration.

If we want to add a cache layer we can do it afterward. And with some cache
pattern.
Part of the complexity is due to trying to keep data across a restart - 
that is, if you call stop() then start(), you want start() to 
automatically re-establish the connection - to do that, you need to 
store the credentials.




Let me know + Peace,
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Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:10:02 + (UTC), Andre Robatino wrote:

 In F16, when I had 32-bit packages (namely Skype and Fedora's wine)
 installed, I had both openssl.i686 and openssl.x86_64 installed, so

Indeed. Up to F17, but not anymore since F18:

  http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/updates/17/x86_64/
  http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/18/x86_64/

 openssl.i686 is pulled in, directly or indirectly, by either Skype or wine.
 It's easy to find out which one by trying to remove openssl.i686 to see what
 it wants to remove with it.

The 32-bit Skype rpm (for F16?) doesn't depend on openssl.

But watch this on F20 x86_64:

  # repoquery --releasever=17 --exactdeps --whatrequires 'openssl(x86-32)'
  openssl-devel-1:1.0.0i-1.fc17.i686
  openssl-devel-1:1.0.0k-1.fc17.i686

So, openssl-devel.i686 required openssl.i686 directly.
There have been packaging changes/fixes related to that.
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Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 17:32 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 But watch this on F20 x86_64:
 
   # repoquery --releasever=17 --exactdeps --whatrequires 'openssl(x86-32)'
   openssl-devel-1:1.0.0i-1.fc17.i686
   openssl-devel-1:1.0.0k-1.fc17.i686
 
 So, openssl-devel.i686 required openssl.i686 directly.
 There have been packaging changes/fixes related to that.

Yes, at some point openssl-libs was split out of openssl.


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Re: [389-devel] lib389: cleanup __init__

2013-10-31 Thread Roberto Polli
Hi Rich,

On Thursday 31 October 2013 10:32:13 Rich Megginson wrote:
  I thought - a long time ago actually - to remove from DSAdmin all cached
  references to backends, suffixes and configuration.
 Part of the complexity is due to trying to keep data across a restart
I agree with credential caching - as they should be quite unmutable, and I was 
talking about __initPart2() which is called by __init__.

Are all the __initPart2() attributes essential?

Peace,
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Re: [389-devel] lib389: cleanup __init__

2013-10-31 Thread Rich Megginson

On 10/31/2013 10:35 AM, Roberto Polli wrote:

Hi Rich,

On Thursday 31 October 2013 10:32:13 Rich Megginson wrote:

I thought - a long time ago actually - to remove from DSAdmin all cached
references to backends, suffixes and configuration.

Part of the complexity is due to trying to keep data across a restart

I agree with credential caching - as they should be quite unmutable, and I was
talking about __initPart2() which is called by __init__.

Are all the __initPart2() attributes essential?


No.  You could do lazy evaluation of those fields.  For example, 
instead of having a .dbdir field, have a .getdbdir() member that would 
do an ldapsearch if .dbdir is None.




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Re: [389-devel] lib389: cleanup __init__

2013-10-31 Thread Roberto Polli
On Thursday 31 October 2013 10:40:25 Rich Megginson wrote:
  Are all the __initPart2() attributes essential?
 
 No.  You could do lazy evaluation of those fields.  For example,
 instead of having a .dbdir field, have a .getdbdir() member that would
 do an ldapsearch if .dbdir is None.
That's good. We could put that in Config.

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Re: Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?

2013-10-31 Thread Przemek Klosowski

On 10/31/2013 02:03 AM, rran...@ihug.com.au wrote:
I have run into an issue which seems to call into question the udev 
paradigm for USB devices. In my case it has ramifications in 
ModemManager and gpsd packages, but I see it as a fundamental problem 
with udev which is in all current versions of Fedora.


My USB GPS is a BU-353 which uses a pl2303 USB-Serial Controller 
(idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303). However, bugzilla report 878737 
indicates this same interface chip is used on other devices such as 
RS232-USB adapters.


If the device is a GPS you do not want ModemManager run on it 
(bugzilla 1023234) but you do want gpsctl to tell gpsd about it when 
it is plugged in. If it is a RS232 adapter the opposite is true 
(bugzilla 878737). Note that it is reported that the DU-353 can be 
bricked if the wrong thing is written to it.


After looking at the lsusb -v output for my BU-353 and the output for 
RS232 devices reported on the net, I do not see any way to distinguish 
between the two different types of devices that udev could use to tell 
them apart.


Unless I am missing something this seems like a fatal flaw in the udev 
paradigm.




As the others have said, there's no way to determine what's sitting 
behind those serial controllers so it's not a problem with udev but with 
the hardware it has to handle. The default udev setting is, or at least 
used to be, designed for the most common case, which turns out wrong for 
you. No matter what udev does, someone is not going to get their device 
auto-configured, so the right choice is to handle the most common case.


Now, it's possible that modems aren't just used much any more, so that 
requiring manual scan would make sense, and udev makes it possible.


By the way, it seems to me that on a computer with no modems, one should 
simply uninistal ModemManager:


yum erase ModemManager



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Re: Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?

2013-10-31 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 11:49 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
 Can you wildcard the greylist so that modemmanager *never* runs?  I
 haven't used a modem in decades but MM keeps mucking with all my
 serial-connected toys.

You can do anything you want with the udev rules.  Just put them
in /etc/udev/rules.d.

But better yet, mind sharing which toys you have so we can update the
black/greylists as appropriate?

Thanks!
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Re: Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?

2013-10-31 Thread DJ Delorie

 But better yet, mind sharing which toys you have so we can update the
 black/greylists as appropriate?

I make them myself using FTDI chips, usually, and they talk plain
RS-232 using terminal emulators and such:

http://www.delorie.com/electronics/

I also get a lot of eval boards with usb-serial chips on them.

They're plain serial ports, but they're not modems.

IMHO the assumption that every serial port might be a modem is the
wrong assumption these days.
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Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 31.10.2013 17:27, schrieb Michael Schwendt:
 On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:29:18 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
 
 Why did you have openssl.i686 installed on x86_64 to begin with?
 You have messed up your installation. :-(
 Have you use rpm -Uvh instead of rpm -Fvh? Or why have you installed
 openssl.i686?

 the machine has a long history
 
 Well, then it needs to be cleaned up from time to time.

until today i thought it is as clean as possible because
a self-maintained meta-package and anything which get
listed by package-cleanup --leaves --all is removed

but sadly you can't do Requires: package.x86_64 explicitly
this way and so Requires: openssl catched both

 yum list extras as well as package-cleanup --orphans on an up-to-date
 installation shows all packages, which are not available in the enabled
 repos anymore. If you store everything you install directly via rpm in
 a local repo, you can keep track of packages that have been dropped by
 Fedora. Such as openssl.i686 for x86_64.
 
 i was the impression that in such cases all or nothing should be x86_64 and 
 i686
 or at least if both can be installed parallel they are also updated clean
 
 Download mash src.rpm and examine it. The basic multilib repo compose
 strategy is to make merge all *-devel packages and their dependencies plus
 a few packages from a whitelist. It has been like that since Fedora Extras.
 Typically, openssl-devel requires openssl-libs, and if the openssl base
 package is not on the whitelist, something else would need to require it
 arch-specific. No i686 pkg in the x86_64 repo does currently:
 
 # repoquery --exactdeps --whatrequires 'openssl(x86-32)'
 #
 
 # repoquery --exactdeps --whatrequires 'openssl(x86-64)'
 openssl-perl-1:1.0.1e-22.fc20.x86_64
 openssl-perl-1:1.0.1e-29.fc20.x86_64
 
 # repoquery --exactdeps --whatrequires openssl|wc -l

thank you for that worthful input!



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Re: Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?

2013-10-31 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 12:50 -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
 On 10/31/2013 02:03 AM, rran...@ihug.com.au wrote:
  I have run into an issue which seems to call into question the udev 
  paradigm for USB devices. In my case it has ramifications in 
  ModemManager and gpsd packages, but I see it as a fundamental problem 
  with udev which is in all current versions of Fedora.
 
  My USB GPS is a BU-353 which uses a pl2303 USB-Serial Controller 
  (idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303). However, bugzilla report 878737 
  indicates this same interface chip is used on other devices such as 
  RS232-USB adapters.
 
  If the device is a GPS you do not want ModemManager run on it 
  (bugzilla 1023234) but you do want gpsctl to tell gpsd about it when 
  it is plugged in. If it is a RS232 adapter the opposite is true 
  (bugzilla 878737). Note that it is reported that the DU-353 can be 
  bricked if the wrong thing is written to it.
 
  After looking at the lsusb -v output for my BU-353 and the output for 
  RS232 devices reported on the net, I do not see any way to distinguish 
  between the two different types of devices that udev could use to tell 
  them apart.
 
  Unless I am missing something this seems like a fatal flaw in the udev 
  paradigm.
 
 
 As the others have said, there's no way to determine what's sitting 
 behind those serial controllers so it's not a problem with udev but with 
 the hardware it has to handle. The default udev setting is, or at least 
 used to be, designed for the most common case, which turns out wrong for 
 you. No matter what udev does, someone is not going to get their device 
 auto-configured, so the right choice is to handle the most common case.
 
 Now, it's possible that modems aren't just used much any more, so that 
 requiring manual scan would make sense, and udev makes it possible.
 
 By the way, it seems to me that on a computer with no modems, one should 
 simply uninistal ModemManager:

Not just a computer with no modems, but a computer into which you would
never plug a modem and use it.  These days, there aren't many 56k/POTS
devices, but the vast vast majority are WWAN modems.  And these are
sometimes, especially in embedded cases, driven by generic serial
converters like pl2xxx.  If you're on a server, and that server does not
have any SMS me when you're down functionality, then you may not want
ModemManager installed there.  But we'd also like to hear about devices
that MM probes-but-shouldn't-probe so we can black/greylist them as
appropriate.

Dan

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Re: Taskbot: TAP vs Subunit

2013-10-31 Thread Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues

On 10/31/2013 02:27 PM, Josef Skladanka wrote:

Lucas,

do you use any library for producing TAP format?


No, at least not in the sense of an external project. Producing TAP in 
the client is an autotest specific implementation. It is the TAPReport() 
object defined in:


https://github.com/autotest/autotest/blob/master/client/shared/base_job.py#L682


Also, do you have any TAP parser, or do you just emit it?


Currently, autotest only outputs TAP, there's no parser available.

Cleber from my time was evaluating writing one, but we didn't go forward 
with it.


Matěj Cepl, also a Red Hat employee, implemented one parser at some 
point, but I think he felt discouraged because people did not give 
feedback to him (he did ask, though). I for one am also guilty of not 
following up with his work. He used to have it on his github account, 
but I can't seem to find it.


https://github.com/mcepl?tab=repositories


I was looking for something in Python, but all I got is either outdated, or 
non-complete.


I wish we had a better answer to give you, but unfortunately we don't.

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Re: Taskbot: TAP vs Subunit

2013-10-31 Thread Tim Flink
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 07:17:03 -0400 (EDT)
Josef Skladanka jskla...@redhat.com wrote:

Bah, just realized this only went to Josef the first time I sent it. He
gets two copies!

 Tim (and of course the rest of the gang ;)),
 
 During our chat with Tim, we agreed that we'd really like to use some
 standardized 'output format' for the tests in Taskbot, to be a bit
 more programming-language/results-store-implementation agnostic. We
 knew about two options - TAP
 http://testanything.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page and Subunit
 https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-subunit.
 
 = Subunit =
 
 At least in Python is quite tightly coupled with unittest, both
 ideologically and practically. I was unable to find a way to just
 produce a Subunit stream without the need of actually running a
 testsuite. 
 
 The format is (basically) just plain PASS/FAIL/INFO/..., and there is
 possibility to add some 'details'results. It should also be possible
 to add an attachment to the end of the stream, but no result-specific
 data can be added (IMO).
 
 Also Subunit is now in the process of transition to new
 implementation, which now should fix some issues with concurrency,
 add more result-states, etc., but will be binary, so human
 readability would quite suffer.
 
 I do not really feel that this is a good match for our needs (at
 least without any significant hacking)  

Yeah, this matches what I remember finding when I looked into this a
couple of months ago. It looks like a better protocol overall but it's
going to be quite a bit more upfront work to support than TAP. I know
that openstack's test suite uses subunit for nova and neutron [1]

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Testr

Subunit has been recently added to the fedora repos but I suppose
that's of little utility for us if we end up having to re-implement
parts to get away from UnitTest.

 = TAP =
 
 TAP is not unittest-specific, and is human-readable plaintext format.
 
 It also has just PASS/FAIL logic, but there is a possibility to add
 YAML 'metadata' to any result (since TAP v. 13).
 
 The real issue with TAP is Python support. 
 There is a TAP-consumer library created as an example for PyParsing
 http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/file/detail/TAP.py, but it does not
 support the v13 protocol, and is quite useless as such. TAP-producer
 library for Python https://github.com/rjbs/pytap is also using the
 old version (i.e. no YAML extensions), and seems to be dead (2 years
 since last update). It is also quite badly written.  

Another option for TAP emission is bayeux [2] which was created for a
better, less perl-ish interface to tap [3]. It might be worth asking
mcepl if he has any thoughts on TAP vs. subunit vs. something else.

[2] http://luther.ceplovi.cz/git/bayeux.git/
[3]http://lists.idyll.org/pipermail/testing-in-python/2012-March/004881.html

 = Result =
 
 Although neither choice is ideal, I feel that TAP would be the better
 choice, even though it would mean implementing our own
 producer/parser. Also the TAP is really simplistic format, so
 creating a TAP output should be quite easy even in any programming
 language.  

I think that TAP is certainly appears to be the simpler solution for
now and I suspect it's a bit more widely used than subunit. As long as
the amount of work required to have a TAP emitter and parser isn't
crazy, I agree that TAP is a better choice.

 It is possible that I somehow utterly misunderstood the Subunit
 concept, so it might be useful to contact some QAs currently using it
 (I thing Tim mentioned something about OpenStack?), or contact the
 developer directly.  

I suspect that you found this when searching but there's a direct
comparison of the two by someone with more of a TAP background:
http://www.kinoshita.eti.br/2011/06/04/a-comparison-of-tap-test-anything-protocol-and-subunit.html

Thanks for looking into this,

Tim


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Re: Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?

2013-10-31 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 13:08 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
  But better yet, mind sharing which toys you have so we can update the
  black/greylists as appropriate?
 
 I make them myself using FTDI chips, usually, and they talk plain
 RS-232 using terminal emulators and such:
 
 http://www.delorie.com/electronics/
 
 I also get a lot of eval boards with usb-serial chips on them.
 
 They're plain serial ports, but they're not modems.
 
 IMHO the assumption that every serial port might be a modem is the
 wrong assumption these days.

I use arduinos in my rare spare time, the are not modems, but they use
serial ports.
I think the majority of devices the use serial ports in the makers
era are definitely not modems. Probably worth not consider them as such
by default unless explicitly configured in network settings.

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Re: Canonical copy of config.guess/config.sub

2013-10-31 Thread Dennis Gilmore
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Phil Knirsch pknir...@redhat.com escribió:
 On 10/25/2013 12:07 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
  W dniu 22.10.2013 17:26, Ralf Corsepius pisze:
 
  Also, automake-based projects receive the versions bundled with
  automake, when running automake rsp. autoreconf.
 
  *IF* they run autoreconf. I am working on getting software built for
  AArch64 for over a year now. Main issue is all those projects which
  ship old, long-time-deprecated copies of config.{guess,sub} files.
  Sure, they are new enough for most of architectures and operating
  systems now in use but not for new ones.
 
  And %configure macro updates them from /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/ anyway
  which covers most of situations but for some we need to copy those
  files by hand because authors think that they are smart and do lot
  of crazy tricks like:
 
  1. ln -sf ../configure . (so %configure tries . instead of ..)
  2. shipping multiple copies of gnu-config files in any random
  versions 3. shipping both config.{guess,sub} and
  configure.{guess,sub} with use of the second ones
 
  And such list can go on and on...
 
 
 Brent Baude from IBM has proposed a bit of a different approach a few 
 days ago on the secondary mailing list for their work and bring up of 
 Power 64bit Little endian:
 
 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/secondary/2013-October/002628.html
 
 A very brief summary of what they did was that, instead of tackling
 the problem on the autoFOO and libtool side they modified the linker
 itself to always claim to be able to generate shared libraries, even
 if the arch was actually wrong. In a confined and controlled
 environment where you control the linker and the linker actually
 really KNOWS it can generate correct shared libraries for that arch
 this works just as well.
 
 The huge benefit here is that you only need to modify the linker, 
 everything else afterwards simply falls into place and just
 works(tm). They have already tried this with a large number of
 packages and haven't seen a single issue with that approach.
 
 Obviously you'd want this as a temporary solution until either
 Florian's approach would get adopted and shared by upstream libtool
 or the majority of packages have gotten an upstream update that
 picked up the latest config.sub and config.guess to work properly on
 your new architecture.

you still need to patch config.guess and config.sub because when you
get to koji it will say the arch is ppc64le and configure will puke
because the arch is unknown.

Dennis

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Re: Fedora search

2013-10-31 Thread Dennis Gilmore
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El Wed, 30 Oct 2013 14:29:25 -0500
Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com escribió:
 Frankie Onuonga wrote:
  I am writing in regards to something I had written about two months
  ago. This in regards to the search engine.
 
  https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1055#trac-add-comment
 
 
  I think we need to seriously fix this thing once and for all.
 
  I am looking at designing a solution for us.
  I however would like to start from the basics.
  We will need to look at the solutions that are present at the
  current time. This should allow us to critic and analyse them.
 
  I will then take this issue into the meeting for voting and
  whatever is decided is what I shall implement.
 
  Kindly do advice if you have any pointers on this project.
  I however must be honest and say it will take me about 2 months to
  complete when i start because I have a day job elsewhere.
  This does not mean I will not want assistance. As always assistance
  is highly appreciated.
 
 
  I hope this will be fruitful so we can close this once and for all.
  Or should I say until we need a revision done.
 
 What about using a custom Google search engine?
 
 https://www.google.com/cse/

simple answer, its not open source

Dennis
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta to slip by one week

2013-10-31 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Today at Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to slip Fedora 20 Beta release
by one week due to unresolved blocker bugs not being fixed by the time of
meeting.

Due to constrained schedule, shorter slip was considered but with limited
QA resources availability, it was decided to slip for a full week. FESCo
will be contacted for further schedule adjustments. Beta release is now
planned for Nov-12.

More details in meeting minutes [2].

The next Go/No-Go meeting is on Thursday, Nov 07, the same time in
#fedora-meeting-2 channel.

[1] http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/20/beta/buglist
[2] 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-10-31/f20_beta_gono-go_meeting.2013-10-31-17.00.html
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/20/Schedule
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Packages have proxy word.

2013-10-31 Thread مصعب الزعبي
بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم

Hi,

The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !!

When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error 
message will appear with http 403 error forbidden.

In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and 
couldn't open by default way.

In Fedora there are two common packages and have many updates:

libproxy - sssd-proxy .

Can to rename to :

libproxies - sssd-proxies

Or something else.

Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging 
guidlines.



Regards



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ModemManager and generic USB hardware (was: Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?)

2013-10-31 Thread Oron Peled

On Thursday 31 October 2013 12:00:10 Dan Williams wrote:
  If you're on a server, and that server does not
 have any SMS me when you're down functionality, then you may not want
 ModemManager installed there.

+1

But also in other cases, like the following:

 * Software/hardware developer use a Linux laptop
 * They remove ModemManager so it won't mess with their electronic
   hardware testing.
 * Later on, they are on the road and need something urgently.
 * No problem, we have GSM modem, but... it's not working...
 * No problem, we'll re-install ModemManager, but... we need a chicken
   for this egg (or maybe vice versa ;-)

All of this just begs for a global disable flag for ModemManager:
 * This should probably go into NetworkManager.
 * It should be a boolean runtime flag, e.g: some dbus property.
 * This way it could be exposed in UI (enable/disable modems).

  But we'd also like to hear about devices
 that MM probes-but-shouldn't-probe so we can black/greylist them as
 appropriate.

While this will solve many problematic cases, it would still leave
a lot of unresolved cases:
 * Either permanently (because of broken hardware)
 * Or temporarily (until packages with updated graylist are installed).
   [yes, the admin may create something temporary in /etc/udev/rules.d
but I'm talking from a *user* pov]

It looks like ModemManager should be able to pass some decision to the end
user.

Here is one possible model for doing this:

 * All *potential* modem devices (serial ports, known USB id's, etc.) that
   are reported to ModemManager build a list of Possible modems.

 * However, ModemManager scan all this list *only if* a scan_all_devices
   property is true -- in this case, it behaves like today.

 * Even when this property is false, the user would be able to call
   a new ScanDevice(dev) method to scan *a specific* device (from
   the possible modems list).

Combining the two changes with the suggested global disable flag, would allow
a UI (e.g: nm-applet) to provide an interface which is both easy to grasp
and highly flexible (IMHO):

 * With modems disabled -- everything is silent.

 * With modems enabled -- the user can see a list of devices:
   - The UI may optionally augment this list with some sysfs properties if
 they exist (e.g: idProduct for USB devices, or the strings from the
 USB hardware database, etc.) -- this extra info is public anyway and
 doesn't require any MM involvement, it's just a UI thingy.

   - If scan_all_devices is true, the UI may augment the list display
 during the scan by MM. E.g: gray out devices that haven't responded yet,
 show some progress for currently scanned device, display SIM information
 when MM read it, etc.)

   - OTOH, if scan_all_devices is false, the user may click a specific
 device from this list to start ScanDevice(dev) on it.

 * Optionally, the UI may implement further selection rules. For example:
   - Allow the user to blacklist specific devices in the UI.
   - This blacklist would be a UI list (i.e: client side).
   - The UI would simply ScanDevice(dev) all other devices, so MM wouldn't
 know/care about the extra granularity that was added by the UI.

Last, unrelated, suggested MM udev tweak:
 * A lot of USB modems have several USB interfaces which translates to several
   /dev/ttyUSB* etc.

 * Some of the drivers (e.g: ZTE) provide a way for udev rules to hint them
   about the preferred MODEM interface, e.g:

 ... ENV{.MM_USBIFNUM}==00, ENV{ID_MM_ZTE_PORT_TYPE_MODEM}=1

 * Since there are so many no-name/broken USB modems out there, it would be
   nice if this provision could be re-factored so it would apply to any USB
   modem plugin (including the generic one):

 ... ENV{.MM_USBIFNUM}==00, ENV{ID_MM_PORT_TYPE_MODEM}=1

Now I wait to see:
 A. If these ideas are just stupid and I don't understand anything about MM.
 B. Or they are OK, but MM people cannot be expected to implement any
random nice idea suggested by someone on the Internet...

If it's B. -- please let me know and I'll try to see if I can prototype
something that may even function on some lucky days ;-)

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Re: Packages have proxy word.

2013-10-31 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

Renaming packages it is not user friendly thing because of few reasons:
- there's some documentation/blog posts etc that use these names
- this will break installation scripts
- poeple who use these packages are familiar with these names

What if your country also ban proxies word?


2013/11/1 مصعب الزعبي moc...@hotmail.com

 بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم

 Hi,

 The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !!

 When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error
 message will appear with http 403 error forbidden.

 In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are
 forbidden and couldn't open by default way.

 In Fedora there are two common packages and have many updates:

 libproxy - sssd-proxy .

 Can to rename to :

 libproxies - sssd-proxies

 Or something else.

 Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging
 guidlines.



 Regards



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 Senior of Linux Arab Community http://linuxac.org
 Member of Ojuba Project http://ojuba.org
 Member of Arab Eyes project http://arabeyes.org
 Maintainer of Almasa project
 http://linux.softpedia.com/progMoreBy/Publisher-Almasa-47122.html
 Maintainer of Arabic Translations in : Wine - VLC - KDE  etc
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RE: Packages have proxy word.

2013-10-31 Thread مصعب الزعبي
Proxies not banned.

Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 00:20:35 +0100
Subject: Re: Packages have proxy word.
From: mkkp...@gmail.com
To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Hi,

Renaming packages it is not user friendly thing because of few reasons:
- there's some documentation/blog posts etc that use these names
- this will break installation scripts
- poeple who use these packages are familiar with these names

What if your country also ban proxies word?


2013/11/1 مصعب الزعبي moc...@hotmail.com




بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم

Hi,

The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !!

When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error 
message will appear with http 403 error forbidden.


In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and 
couldn't open by default way.

In Fedora there are two common packages and have many updates:

libproxy - sssd-proxy .


Can to rename to :

libproxies - sssd-proxies

Or something else.

Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging 
guidlines.



Regards



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Senior of Linux Arab Community http://linuxac.org
Member of Ojuba Project http://ojuba.org

Member of Arab Eyes project http://arabeyes.org
Maintainer of Almasa project
http://linux.softpedia.com/progMoreBy/Publisher-Almasa-47122.html

Maintainer of Arabic Translations in : Wine - VLC - KDE  etc
Also member of Fedora Arabic translations team
  

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Re: Packages have proxy word.

2013-10-31 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote:
 بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم
 
 Hi,
 
 The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !!
 
 When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error 
 message will appear with http 403 error forbidden.
 
 In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden 
 and couldn't open by default way.

I think you'll have to use a... proxy to work around this problem.
Or maybe it'll be enough to use a https connection to the mirror.


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Re: Packages have proxy word.

2013-10-31 Thread Pete Travis
On Oct 31, 2013 6:08 PM, مصعب الزعبي moc...@hotmail.com wrote:

 بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم

 Hi,

 The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !!

 When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error
message will appear with http 403 error forbidden.

 In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are
forbidden and couldn't open by default way.

 In Fedora there are two common packages and have many updates:

 libproxy - sssd-proxy .

 Can to rename to :

 libproxies - sssd-proxies

 Or something else.

 Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging
guidlines.



 Regards



 -=-=-=-=-=-
 Mosaab Alzoubi


You might have some luck with rsync. I *think* there's some tooling out
there to enable a mirror with only your required packages; if not, you can
create a wrapper script for it. Something like --excludes=$(yum list all
- yum list installed) might do. [not actual code]

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Re: Packages have proxy word.

2013-10-31 Thread Christopher Meng
Censorship? I think we have no reason to change the package name
because of some governments‘ being evil.

Have you tried opening a ssh tunnel proxy for firewall breaking?

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Fedora engineering manager

2013-10-31 Thread Paul W. Frields
Hi Fedora folks,

Hopefully some of you know me, possibly as a previous Fedora Project
Leader at Red Hat.  If you don't, then salutations, and please feel
free to check out my Fedora wiki page[1] for my background. :-)

As of next Monday, I'll be the reporting manager for Fedora
Engineering team members -- those folks who work on Fedora full time
in the Engineering department of Red Hat, other than the Fedora
Project Leader, Robyn Bergeron.  This doesn't really affect anything
in the community, but I want to ensure that change is transparent to
the community.

These folks previously reported to Tom 'spot' Callaway, who remains at
Red Hat, and has kindly given me his good wishes in the new job.  Of
course, we fully expect to continue working together around the Fedora
community.  I'm lucky to be coming on board with an awesome team full
of great people, and I'm excited about working with all of them!

Of course there will be some transition time while I manage the
backfill for my other work at Red Hat, but you'll start seeing more of
me around here in the near future.

Sorry for the interruption -- now back to the normal Fedora stuff.


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Re: Fedora engineering manager

2013-10-31 Thread Dennis Gilmore
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El Thu, 31 Oct 2013 22:42:52 -0400
Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hi Fedora folks,
 
 Hopefully some of you know me, possibly as a previous Fedora Project
 Leader at Red Hat.  If you don't, then salutations, and please feel
 free to check out my Fedora wiki page[1] for my background. :-)
 
 As of next Monday, I'll be the reporting manager for Fedora
 Engineering team members -- those folks who work on Fedora full time
 in the Engineering department of Red Hat, other than the Fedora
 Project Leader, Robyn Bergeron.  This doesn't really affect anything
 in the community, but I want to ensure that change is transparent to
 the community.

Just so its clear, I think I'm the only other person who works full
time on Fedora at Red Hat, but I'm in a different part of the
organisation and have a different reporting structure.

 These folks previously reported to Tom 'spot' Callaway, who remains at
 Red Hat, and has kindly given me his good wishes in the new job.  Of
 course, we fully expect to continue working together around the Fedora
 community.  I'm lucky to be coming on board with an awesome team full
 of great people, and I'm excited about working with all of them!
 
 Of course there will be some transition time while I manage the
 backfill for my other work at Red Hat, but you'll start seeing more of
 me around here in the near future.
 
 Sorry for the interruption -- now back to the normal Fedora stuff.

Welcome back and Congratulations. I hope your ready to jump in :)

Dennis
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Re: Fedora engineering manager

2013-10-31 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 09:47:36PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
 El Thu, 31 Oct 2013 22:42:52 -0400
 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com escribió:
  Hi Fedora folks,
  
  Hopefully some of you know me, possibly as a previous Fedora Project
  Leader at Red Hat.  If you don't, then salutations, and please feel
  free to check out my Fedora wiki page[1] for my background. :-)
  
  As of next Monday, I'll be the reporting manager for Fedora
  Engineering team members -- those folks who work on Fedora full time
  in the Engineering department of Red Hat, other than the Fedora
  Project Leader, Robyn Bergeron.  This doesn't really affect anything
  in the community, but I want to ensure that change is transparent to
  the community.
 
 Just so its clear, I think I'm the only other person who works full
 time on Fedora at Red Hat, but I'm in a different part of the
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Re: Fedora search

2013-10-31 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Wed, 30 Oct, 2013 at 19:29:25 GMT, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
 What about using a custom Google search engine?

 https://www.google.com/cse/

Google is having more and more privacy issues lately. Why not use
DuckDuckGo and write a 'bang' search for fedora sites?
!fedora-guidelines, !fedora-package !fedora-wiki, etc.?

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Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
Reindl Harald wrote:
 but sadly you can't do Requires: package.x86_64 explicitly

You can actually:
Requires: openssl(x86-64)
See also the %{_isa} macro.

http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/ArchDependencies

(This is also what Michael Schwendt's repoquery invocation in this thread 
checked for.)

 Requires: openssl catched both

And to fix this broken behavior, set exactarch=1 in yum.conf. This is the 
default for fresh installs of current versions of Fedora, but some old 
releases defaulted to exactarch=0.

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Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-10-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthias Clasen wrote:

 On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 14:31 +0100, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
 Look at System - File Tools - Caja-actions configuration tool
 
 Get the cinnamon guys to fork the nautilus appdata ? I'm sure it will
 only need minor adjustments... :-)

Caja is actually from MATE, Cinnamon has Nemo.

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Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-10-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthias Clasen wrote:
 It is an application installer, first and foremost. Installing
 backgrounds/icons/themes is not a priority.

Having as the only GUI package management application on your spin one that 
does not even offer all packages is very broken.

 We have a notion of 'core app' - for things that 'come with the OS'. We
 don't allow to uninstall those.

WTF!?

 Compared to Ubuntu, certainly. But compared to gpk-application F19, I
 don't think so.

Always the same broken assumption that Ubuntu's flawed design is the model 
to copy.

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Re: rawhide report: 20131026 changes

2013-10-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
Fedora Rawhide Report wrote:
 New package: lpf-0-8.ff50a5b.fc21
  Local package factory - build non-redistributable rpms
 
 New package: lpf-spotify-client-0.9.4.183.g644e24e.428-2.fc21
  Spotify music player native client package bootstrap

WTF???

https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/362

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Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-10-31 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 14:31 +0100, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
 I know Richard has pushed hard to get appdata for apps, but it do help
 the
 end user, if lot of apps in gnome-software dont have any descriptions.
 
 
 Look at System - File Tools - Caja-actions configuration tool
 
 
 How should an end user have a clue what this app does ?

This really does require package maintainers to pay attention and
include appdata files for their packages. I've done quite a few, for
packages that I maintain and ones that I use. However, sending appdata
files upstream requires new bugtracker accounts and since existing
package maintainers are supposed to have these already, it's really best
if they write up and include appstream data, or at least take
submissions from the community and send them upstream.

I've requested a list of packages missing appdata[1]. Once I have that,
I'll go ahead and file bugs in the hope that it'll get maintainers to
take out the five minutes required to write and submit these. 

[1] https://github.com/hughsie/fedora-appstream/issues/13
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Re: Fedora Working Groups: Call for Self-Nominations

2013-10-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bill Nottingham wrote:
 And I would argue that having the user interface swing wildly in design 
 implementation based on the current composition of an elected board that
 is refreshed in part every six months is not the sort of situation that
 Fedora would want to be in anyway.

That's a very lame excuse for sticking with an awful desktop environment as 
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Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-10-31 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 04:19 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Having as the only GUI package management application on your spin one
 that 
 does not even offer all packages is very broken.

It isn't a *package* management application. It's an *application*
management application, ie., it only handles packages that are desktop
applications (and therefore have desktop files associated with them). 

I'm guessing power users that want to install other packages will need
to resort to the command line: yum/dnf/packagekit-cli. I'm not really
sure about this though. Someone else might know better. 

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller
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Re: Fedora search

2013-10-31 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Ben Boeckel maths...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, 30 Oct, 2013 at 19:29:25 GMT, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
  What about using a custom Google search engine?
 
  https://www.google.com/cse/

 Google is having more and more privacy issues lately. Why not use
 DuckDuckGo and write a 'bang' search for fedora sites?
 !fedora-guidelines, !fedora-package !fedora-wiki, etc.?


I think this goes back to the concept of having something that we can do
for ourselves. Something that we can take in and manage on our own. Sure,
at first it will be a lot of heavy lifting but this is not something I
mind. It has to be done.
I think we really just need to look into tools that are free and open
source and then move forward.

However, as mentioned before this is my opinion. The more criticised the
better.  If we(the community at large) do not mind, can we proceed to look
at various tools.

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Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-10-31 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote:

 It isn't a *package* management application. It's an *application*
 management application, ie., it only handles packages that are desktop
 applications (and therefore have desktop files associated with them).

 I'm guessing power users that want to install other packages will need
 to resort to the command line: yum/dnf/packagekit-cli. I'm not really
 sure about this though. Someone else might know better.


All users can use yumex, if they want a package management gui, there can
install every thing they want
but it is not installed by default in the Gnome desktop, so new user need
to find out how to install it or how to
to use yum from the command line.

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File DateTime-Format-DBI-0.041.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2013-10-31 Thread Petr Šabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-DateTime-Format-DBI:

135955e52b3a3083ec3b4e0d7bd4de5d  DateTime-Format-DBI-0.041.tar.gz
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File ctstream-9 uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2013-10-31 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for ctstream:

7949c8947140894ceb656fc413d00fec  ctstream-9
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[ctstream] Version 9 bump

2013-10-31 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 4aa0fbc6827b0b85bcb52895c1440656466f867f
Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com
Date:   Thu Oct 31 07:49:24 2013 +0100

Version 9 bump

 .gitignore|1 +
 ctstream.spec |7 +--
 sources   |2 +-
 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 8c6b7ee..ae98988 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
 /ctstream-6
 /ctstream-7
 /ctstream-8
+/ctstream-9
diff --git a/ctstream.spec b/ctstream.spec
index ed9620d..f576723 100644
--- a/ctstream.spec
+++ b/ctstream.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   ctstream
-Version:8
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Version:9
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Get URLs of Czech Television video streams
 Group:  Applications/Internet
 License:GPL+
@@ -23,6 +23,9 @@ install %{SOURCE0} %{buildroot}%{_bindir}/%{name}
 %{_bindir}/*
 
 %changelog
+* Thu Oct 31 2013 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 9-1
+- Version 9 bump
+
 * Sat Aug 03 2013 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 8-3
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass_Rebuild
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index a27e3dc..2ee8dd8 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-75f8d6545be37d2b358be02e76657758  ctstream-8
+7949c8947140894ceb656fc413d00fec  ctstream-9
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[Bug 1024821] ctstream-9 is available

2013-10-31 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1024821



--- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com ---
This is a bug-fix release suitable for all Fedoras.

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[perl-DateTime-Format-DBI] 0.041 bump

2013-10-31 Thread Petr Šabata
commit 6f6050eecfbed9396b44530d87644b635f92f112
Author: Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Thu Oct 31 15:49:59 2013 +0900

0.041 bump

 .gitignore|1 +
 perl-DateTime-Format-DBI.spec |   32 ++--
 sources   |2 +-
 3 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 5307888..7584e81 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1,2 +1,3 @@
 DateTime-Format-DBI-0.032.tar.gz
 /DateTime-Format-DBI-0.040.tar.gz
+/DateTime-Format-DBI-0.041.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-DateTime-Format-DBI.spec b/perl-DateTime-Format-DBI.spec
index 1a6d375..4200e74 100644
--- a/perl-DateTime-Format-DBI.spec
+++ b/perl-DateTime-Format-DBI.spec
@@ -1,22 +1,26 @@
 Name:   perl-DateTime-Format-DBI
-Version:0.040
-Release:8%{?dist}
+Version:0.041
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Find a parser class for a database connection
 License:GPL+ or Artistic 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/DateTime-Format-DBI/
 Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/C/CF/CFAERBER/DateTime-Format-DBI-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildArch:  noarch
-Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))
+Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval $(perl -V:version); echo 
$version))
+BuildRequires:  iconv
+BuildRequires:  perl
 BuildRequires:  perl(Carp)
 BuildRequires:  perl(DateTime) = 0.1
 BuildRequires:  perl(DateTime::Format::SQLite)
 BuildRequires:  perl(DBD::SQLite)
 BuildRequires:  perl(DBI) = 1.21
 BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
-BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Database)
+BuildRequires:  perl(strict)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::NoWarnings)
+BuildRequires:  perl(vars)
+BuildRequires:  perl(warnings)
 # require the dbd-specific datetime formats, so this just works the way we
 # expect it to.
 Requires:   perl(DateTime::Format::MySQL)
@@ -33,31 +37,31 @@ perl-DateTime-MySQL, perl-DateTime-Oracle, 
perl-DateTime-DB2, etc.
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -n DateTime-Format-DBI-%{version}
-for i in LICENSE README lib/DateTime/Format/DBI.pm ; do
-# correct UTF-8 wonkiness
-cat $i | iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t UTF-8  foo
-mv foo $i
-done
+iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t UTF-8 LICENSE  LICENSE.utf  \
+touch -r LICENSE LICENSE.utf  \
+mv -f LICENSE.utf LICENSE
 
 %build
-%{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
+perl Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
 make %{?_smp_mflags}
 
 %install
-make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=%{buildroot}
-find %{buildroot} -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} \;
-find %{buildroot} -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null \;
+make pure_install DESTDIR=%{buildroot}
+find %{buildroot} -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} +
 %{_fixperms} %{buildroot}/*
 
 %check
 make test
 
 %files
-%doc Changes LICENSE README t/
+%doc Changes LICENSE README
 %{perl_vendorlib}/*
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Thu Oct 31 2013 Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com - 0.041-1
+- 0.041 bump
+
 * Sat Aug 03 2013 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 0.040-8
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass_Rebuild
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index f9e81ea..d93bcca 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-5f18a034988a37035bdf0c99e583f54a  DateTime-Format-DBI-0.040.tar.gz
+135955e52b3a3083ec3b4e0d7bd4de5d  DateTime-Format-DBI-0.041.tar.gz
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[ctstream/f20] Version 9 bump

2013-10-31 Thread Petr Pisar
Summary of changes:

  4aa0fbc... Version 9 bump (*)

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[ctstream/f19] Version 9 bump

2013-10-31 Thread Petr Pisar
commit a389770d5012aa0640d674801e138509cee834ee
Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com
Date:   Thu Oct 31 07:49:24 2013 +0100

Version 9 bump

 .gitignore|1 +
 ctstream.spec |5 -
 sources   |2 +-
 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 8c6b7ee..ae98988 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
 /ctstream-6
 /ctstream-7
 /ctstream-8
+/ctstream-9
diff --git a/ctstream.spec b/ctstream.spec
index 91afa21..b725613 100644
--- a/ctstream.spec
+++ b/ctstream.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:   ctstream
-Version:8
+Version:9
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Get URLs of Czech Television video streams
 Group:  Applications/Internet
@@ -23,6 +23,9 @@ install %{SOURCE0} %{buildroot}%{_bindir}/%{name}
 %{_bindir}/*
 
 %changelog
+* Thu Oct 31 2013 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 9-1
+- Version 9 bump
+
 * Mon May 27 2013 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 8-1
 - Version 8 bump
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index a27e3dc..2ee8dd8 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-75f8d6545be37d2b358be02e76657758  ctstream-8
+7949c8947140894ceb656fc413d00fec  ctstream-9
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[Bug 1022676] perl-DateTime-Format-DBI-0.041 is available

2013-10-31 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1022676

Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-DateTime-Format-DBI-0.
   ||041-1.fc21
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2013-10-31 02:52:46



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[ctstream/f18] Version 9 bump

2013-10-31 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 65d8f35de06fd0ebf331b5bd5d6cbd2b7d19ac2c
Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com
Date:   Thu Oct 31 07:49:24 2013 +0100

Version 9 bump

 .gitignore|1 +
 ctstream.spec |5 -
 sources   |2 +-
 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 8c6b7ee..ae98988 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
 /ctstream-6
 /ctstream-7
 /ctstream-8
+/ctstream-9
diff --git a/ctstream.spec b/ctstream.spec
index 9f3693b..8850b0e 100644
--- a/ctstream.spec
+++ b/ctstream.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:   ctstream
-Version:8
+Version:9
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Get URLs of Czech Television video streams
 Group:  Applications/Internet
@@ -23,6 +23,9 @@ install %{SOURCE0} %{buildroot}%{_bindir}/%{name}
 %{_bindir}/*
 
 %changelog
+* Thu Oct 31 2013 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 9-1
+- Version 9 bump
+
 * Mon May 27 2013 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 8-1
 - Version 8 bump
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index a27e3dc..2ee8dd8 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-75f8d6545be37d2b358be02e76657758  ctstream-8
+7949c8947140894ceb656fc413d00fec  ctstream-9
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[Bug 1024821] ctstream-9 is available

2013-10-31 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1024821

Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED
   Fixed In Version||ctstream-9-1.fc21



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[Bug 1024821] ctstream-9 is available

2013-10-31 Thread bugzilla
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ctstream-9-1.fc20 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 20.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ctstream-9-1.fc20

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[Bug 1024821] ctstream-9 is available

2013-10-31 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org ---
ctstream-9-1.fc19 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 19.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ctstream-9-1.fc19

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[Bug 1024821] ctstream-9 is available

2013-10-31 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1024821



--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org ---
ctstream-9-1.fc18 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 18.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ctstream-9-1.fc18

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[Bug 1022682] perl-X11-Protocol-Other-27 is available

2013-10-31 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1022682

Upstream Release Monitoring upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org 
changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|perl-X11-Protocol-Other-26  |perl-X11-Protocol-Other-27
   |is available|is available



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Latest upstream release: 27
Current version/release in Fedora Rawhide: 25-1.fc21
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/X11-Protocol-Other/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
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File Perl-Critic-Deprecated-1.119.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2013-10-31 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated:

fe789d45277b769a244da8d3b5f7b00b  Perl-Critic-Deprecated-1.119.tar.gz
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[perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated] 1.119 bump

2013-10-31 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 3fa6a778ad9e5559a85a44df470a555a9955fb82
Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com
Date:   Thu Oct 31 08:31:01 2013 +0100

1.119 bump

 .gitignore   |1 +
 perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated.spec |7 +--
 sources  |2 +-
 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 1de8f0e..cfd0b03 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1,2 +1,3 @@
 /Perl-Critic-Deprecated-1.108.tar.gz
 /Perl-Critic-Deprecated-1.118.tar.gz
+/Perl-Critic-Deprecated-1.119.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated.spec b/perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated.spec
index 77332a1..8ff64e8 100644
--- a/perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated.spec
+++ b/perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:   perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated
-Version:1.118
+Version:1.119
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Perl::Critic policies which have been superseded by others
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ Conflicts:  perl-Perl-Critic-More = 1.000-11
 The included policies are:
   - Write $my_variable = 42 instead of $MyVariable = 42.
   - Write sub my_function{} instead of sub MyFunction{}.
-  - Write RCS keywords like $Revision: 42 $ into source files.
+  - Put source-control keywords in every file.
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -n Perl-Critic-Deprecated-%{version}
@@ -63,6 +63,9 @@ perl Build.PL installdirs=vendor
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Thu Oct 31 2013 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 1.119-1
+- 1.119 bump
+
 * Tue Oct 29 2013 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 1.118-1
 - 1.118 bump
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 05b6c9e..14ceb77 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-1b7fc22927e26ec338f28be46c639358  Perl-Critic-Deprecated-1.118.tar.gz
+fe789d45277b769a244da8d3b5f7b00b  Perl-Critic-Deprecated-1.119.tar.gz
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[perl-DateTime-Format-DBI] Correct iconv BR

2013-10-31 Thread Petr Šabata
commit 852d9874d3c579540750ff402c048fd7b021a000
Author: Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Thu Oct 31 16:32:45 2013 +0900

Correct iconv BR

 perl-DateTime-Format-DBI.spec |2 +-
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-DateTime-Format-DBI.spec b/perl-DateTime-Format-DBI.spec
index 4200e74..de2934f 100644
--- a/perl-DateTime-Format-DBI.spec
+++ b/perl-DateTime-Format-DBI.spec
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/DateTime-Format-DBI/
 Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/C/CF/CFAERBER/DateTime-Format-DBI-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildArch:  noarch
 Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval $(perl -V:version); echo 
$version))
-BuildRequires:  iconv
+BuildRequires:  %{_bindir}/iconv
 BuildRequires:  perl
 BuildRequires:  perl(Carp)
 BuildRequires:  perl(DateTime) = 0.1
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File Perl-Critic-More-1.003.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2013-10-31 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Perl-Critic-More:

00deaf3d49835ae12f59ccd2fcea9045  Perl-Critic-More-1.003.tar.gz
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[perl-Perl-Critic-More] Remove unneeded Perl-Critic-More-1.000-Miscellanea::RequireRcsKeywords.patch

2013-10-31 Thread Petr Pisar
commit c2f8861e72e7a722bcbba8727adb33d8e7dfed3a
Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com
Date:   Thu Oct 31 08:33:55 2013 +0100

Remove unneeded Perl-Critic-More-1.000-Miscellanea::RequireRcsKeywords.patch

 ...ore-1.000-Miscellanea::RequireRcsKeywords.patch |  236 
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[perl-Perl-Critic-More] 1.003 bump

2013-10-31 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 852a5ef3d669041f8b75eb67fca423f1c77b5489
Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com
Date:   Thu Oct 31 08:37:01 2013 +0100

1.003 bump

 .gitignore |1 +
 perl-Perl-Critic-More.spec |5 -
 sources|2 +-
 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 70493a0..c57b4ae 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1,2 +1,3 @@
 /Perl-Critic-More-1.000.tar.gz
 /Perl-Critic-More-1.002.tar.gz
+/Perl-Critic-More-1.003.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Perl-Critic-More.spec b/perl-Perl-Critic-More.spec
index f069043..8044127 100644
--- a/perl-Perl-Critic-More.spec
+++ b/perl-Perl-Critic-More.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:   perl-Perl-Critic-More
-Version:1.002
+Version:1.003
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Supplemental policies for Perl::Critic
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -64,6 +64,9 @@ perl Build.PL installdirs=vendor
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Thu Oct 31 2013 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 1.003-1
+- 1.003 bump
+
 * Tue Oct 29 2013 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 1.002-1
 - 1.002 bump
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index c772e0b..f9290b9 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-dc652a42d54ea69d700582b6cbf10163  Perl-Critic-More-1.002.tar.gz
+00deaf3d49835ae12f59ccd2fcea9045  Perl-Critic-More-1.003.tar.gz
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[Bug 1024894] perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated-1.119 is available

2013-10-31 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1024894

Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated
   ||-1.119-1.fc21
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2013-10-31 03:41:27



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[Bug 1024896] perl-Perl-Critic-More-1.003 is available

2013-10-31 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1024896

Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Perl-Critic-More-1.003
   ||-1.fc21
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2013-10-31 03:46:11



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File Authen-Radius-0.23.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2013-10-31 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Authen-Radius:

556c5bea85f67ab83ec247a74c65e27e  Authen-Radius-0.23.tar.gz
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