[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 6 updates-testing report
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing: Age URL 940 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6 159 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1616/puppet-2.7.26-1.el6 30 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3434/pylint-1.3.1-1.el6,python-astroid-1.2.1-2.el6,python-logilab-common-0.62.1-2.el6 26 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3527/asterisk-1.8.31.1-1.el6 20 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3623/Pound-2.6-2.el6.1 16 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3748/tnftp-20141031-1.el6 13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3790/facter-1.6.18-7.el6 8 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3851/python-requests-kerberos-0.6-1.el6 7 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3927/drupal7-ckeditor-1.16-2.el6 5 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3962/oath-toolkit-2.0.2-5.el6 5 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4005/nginx-1.0.15-11.el6 5 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4008/cross-binutils-2.23.51.0.3-1.el6.1 5 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3975/polarssl-1.3.2-3.el6 5 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-2069/php-channel-phpseclib-1.3-1.el6,php-sabredav-Sabre_VObject-2.1.4-2.el6,php-sabredav-Sabre_HTTP-1.7.11-1.el6,php-sabredav-Sabre_DAVACL-1.7.9-1.el6,php-sabredav-Sabre_DAV-1.7.13-1.el6,php-sabredav-Sabre_CardDAV-1.7.9-2.el6,php-sabredav-Sabre_CalDAV-1.7.9-1.el6,php-irodsphp-3.3.0-0.4.beta1.el6,php-phpseclib-net-ssh2-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-net-sftp-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-twofish-0.3.9-2.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-tripledes-0.3.9-2.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-rsa-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-rijndael-0.3.9-2.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-rc4-0.3.9-2.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-random-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-hash-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-des-0.3.9-2.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-blowfish-0.3.9-2.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-aes-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-math-biginteger-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-base-0.3.9-1.el6,owncloud-6.0.5-4.el6 3 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4057/moodle-2.5.9-1.el6 The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 6 updates-testing Zim-0.62-2.el6 celestia-1.6.1-18.el6 gfal2-2.7.8-1.el6 id3lib-3.8.3-28.el6 labiryntowy-fonts-1.53-2.el6 mock-1.2.1-1.el6 ntfs-3g-2014.2.15-7.el6 perl-Crypt-Rijndael-1.12-1.el6 protobuf-2.3.0-8.el6 python-cltk-0.0.0.47-1.el6 Details about builds: Zim-0.62-2.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4122) Desktop wiki notekeeper Update Information: Backport upstream bzr755 to fix mis-matched gtk and pygtk in Fedora/RHEL New upstream stable release ChangeLog: * Sun Nov 16 2014 Robin Lee cheese...@fedoraproject.org - 0.62-2 - Backport upstream bzr755 to fix mis-matched gtk and pygtk in Fedora/RHEL * Fri Oct 3 2014 Robin Lee cheese...@fedoraproject.org - 0.62-1 - Update to 0.62 * Thu Oct 2 2014 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org 0.61-2 - update mime scriptlets * Sat Aug 2 2014 Robin Lee cheese...@fedoraproject.org - 0.61-1 - Update to 0.61 * Fri Jun 6 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 0.60-3 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Mass_Rebuild * Sat Aug 3 2013 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 0.60-2 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass_Rebuild References: [ 1 ] Bug #1163667 - zim crashing at startup after applying RHEL security fixes for gtk and gdk https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1163667 [ 2 ] Bug #1148354 - Zim-0.62 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1148354 celestia-1.6.1-18.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4112) OpenGL real-time visual space simulation Update Information: Repackaged source with .tar.xz ChangeLog: * Sun Nov 16 2014 Matias Kreder mkre...@gmail.com - 1.6.1-18 - Repackaged source with .tar.xz * Fri Aug 15 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 1.6.1-17 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_22_Mass_Rebuild * Thu Jul 3 2014 Richard Hughes rich...@hughsie.com -
[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 5 updates-testing report
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing: Age URL 940 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5 394 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11893/libguestfs-1.20.12-1.el5 159 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1626/puppet-2.7.26-1.el5 55 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-2669/check-mk-1.2.4p5-1.el5 54 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-2853/mediawiki119-1.19.18-1.el5 20 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3675/Pound-2.6-2.el5.2 13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3784/mantis-1.2.17-3.el5 8 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3849/sblim-sfcb-1.3.8-2.el5 5 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3972/nginx-0.8.55-6.el5 5 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3983/polarssl-1.3.2-3.el5 The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 5 updates-testing gfal2-2.7.8-1.el5 koji-1.9.0-8.el5 protobuf-2.3.0-8.el5 Details about builds: gfal2-2.7.8-1.el5 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3909) Grid file access library 2.0 Update Information: Update for gfal2 2.7.8 release ChangeLog: * Mon Nov 17 2014 Alejandro Alvarez Ayllon aalvarez at cern.ch - 2.7.8-1 - Upstream backported fix for protocol honoring on SRM GET and PUT * Mon Nov 10 2014 Alejandro Alvarez Ayllon aalvarez at cern.ch - 2.7.7-1 - Upgraded to upstream release 2.7.7 * Fri Nov 7 2014 Alejandro Alvarez Ayllon aalvarez at cern.ch - 2.7.6-1 - New upstream release * Mon Sep 8 2014 Alejandro Alvarez Ayllon aalvarez at cern.ch - 2.6.8-6 - Patch to use lseek64 instead of lseek in the http plugin * Thu Sep 4 2014 Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com - 2.6.8-5 - Rebuild for pugixml 1.4 * Sat Aug 16 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 2.6.8-4 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_22_Mass_Rebuild koji-1.9.0-8.el5 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4116) Build system tools Update Information: don't exclude koji-vm from ppc and ppc64 ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 30 2014 Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us - 1.9.0-8 - don't exclude koji-vm from ppc and ppc64 protobuf-2.3.0-8.el5 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4119) Protocol Buffers - Google's data interchange format Update Information: * Build with zlib-devel ChangeLog: * Tue Aug 27 2013 Ian Burrell ianburr...@gmail.com - 2.3.0-8 - Adding zlib-devel as BR (rhbz: #815587) References: [ 1 ] Bug #815587 - Missing gzip_stream.h in protobuf-devel in EPEL, fixed in Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815587 ___ epel-devel mailing list epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/epel-devel
[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing report
The following Fedora EPEL 7 Security updates need testing: Age URL 20 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3621/php-Smarty-3.1.21-1.el7 20 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3642/Pound-2.7-0.4.d.el7.1 16 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3745/tnftp-20141031-1.el7 13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3664/konversation-1.5.1-1.el7 8 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3886/python-requests-kerberos-0.6-1.el7 7 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3794/polarssl-1.3.9-2.el7 5 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3989/cross-binutils-2.23.88.0.1-2.el7.1 5 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3995/oath-toolkit-2.4.1-8.el7 4 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4045/libvncserver-0.9.9-0.9.el7.1 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4113/kwebkitpart-1.3.4-5.el7 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4100/erlang-R16B-03.9.el7 The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing Zim-0.62-2.el7 erlang-R16B-03.9.el7 faience-icon-theme-0.5-3.el7 gfal2-2.7.8-1.el7 ibus-anthy-1.5.6-2.el7 kwebkitpart-1.3.4-5.el7 labiryntowy-fonts-1.53-2.el7 mMass-5.5.0-10.el7 mate-themes-1.9.2-0.2.git20141117.9b7d8c3.el7 mate-themes-extras-3.8.1-1.el7 mock-1.2.1-1.el7 perl-Crypt-Rijndael-1.12-1.el7 perl-Finance-Quote-1.35-1.el7 perl-Fsdb-2.52-2.el7 perl-Net-CIDR-0.17-6.el7 perl-Test-Reporter-1.60-3.el7 php-pecl-xdebug-2.2.6-1.el7 python-cltk-0.0.0.47-1.el7 python-django-piston-0.2.3-7.el7 python-testscenarios-0.4-4.el7 tlp-0.6-3.el7 xa-2.3.6-1.el7 Details about builds: Zim-0.62-2.el7 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4125) Desktop wiki notekeeper Update Information: Backport upstream bzr755 to fix mis-matched gtk and pygtk in Fedora/RHEL Zim is a WYSIWYG text editor written in PyGTK which aims to bring the concept of a wiki to your desktop. Every page is saved as a text file with wiki markup. Pages can contain links to other pages, and are saved automatically. Creating a new page is as easy as linking to a non-existing page. Pages are ordered in a hierarchical structure that gives it the look and feel of an outliner. This tool is intended to keep track of TODO lists or to serve as a personal scratch book. Zim is a WYSIWYG text editor written in PyGTK which aims to bring the concept of a wiki to your desktop. Every page is saved as a text file with wiki markup. Pages can contain links to other pages, and are saved automatically. Creating a new page is as easy as linking to a non-existing page. Pages are ordered in a hierarchical structure that gives it the look and feel of an outliner. This tool is intended to keep track of TODO lists or to serve as a personal scratch book. erlang-R16B-03.9.el7 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4100) General-purpose programming language and runtime environment Update Information: * Fixed CVE-2014-1693 (backported fix from ver. 17.x.x, see patch no. 17) * Trimmed dependency chain ChangeLog: * Mon Nov 17 2014 Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com - R16B-03.9 - Fixed CVE-2014-1693 (backported fix from ver. 17.x.x, see patch no. 17) * Tue Nov 11 2014 Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com - R16B-03.8 - Trimmed dependency chain - Cleaned up spec-file References: [ 1 ] Bug #1059331 - CVE-2014-1693 erlang-inets: command injection flaw in FTP module https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1059331 faience-icon-theme-0.5-3.el7 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4121) Faience icon theme Update Information: - initial package for epel7 References: [ 1 ] Bug #1005718 - Review Request: faience-icon-theme - Faience icon theme https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1005718 gfal2-2.7.8-1.el7
Re: [EPEL-devel] [EPEL] #8: EPEL-latest link rpm
#8: EPEL-latest link rpm -+-- Reporter: smooge | Owner: smooge Type: enhancement | Status: accepted Priority: minor | Milestone: Component: Policy problem |Version: Resolution: | Keywords: -+-- Changes (by fschwarz): * cc: fschwarz@… (added) -- Ticket URL: https://fedorahosted.org/epel/ticket/8#comment:6 EPEL https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux ___ epel-devel mailing list epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/epel-devel
[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 5 updates-testing report
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing: Age URL 941 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5 395 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11893/libguestfs-1.20.12-1.el5 160 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1626/puppet-2.7.26-1.el5 56 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-2669/check-mk-1.2.4p5-1.el5 55 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-2853/mediawiki119-1.19.18-1.el5 21 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3675/Pound-2.6-2.el5.2 14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3784/mantis-1.2.17-3.el5 9 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3849/sblim-sfcb-1.3.8-2.el5 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3972/nginx-0.8.55-6.el5 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3983/polarssl-1.3.2-3.el5 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4147/lsyncd-2.1.4-4.el5.1.1 The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 5 updates-testing dmlite-0.7.2-1.el5 lsyncd-2.1.4-4.el5.1.1 voms-2.0.12-1.el5 Details about builds: dmlite-0.7.2-1.el5 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4132) Lcgdm grid data management and storage framework Update Information: Update to 0.7.2, BugFix for too much verbose logging ChangeLog: * Tue Nov 18 2014 Adrien Devresse adevress at cern.ch - 0.7.2-1 - Update to 0.7.2, BugFix for too much verbose logging lsyncd-2.1.4-4.el5.1.1 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4147) File change monitoring and synchronization daemon Update Information: Fix bad shell argument escaping ChangeLog: * Tue Nov 18 2014 Lubomir Rintel lkund...@v3.sk - 2.1.4-4.1.1 - Fix bad shell argument escaping * Wed Sep 25 2013 Troy C. tz...@fedoraproject.org - 2.1.4-4 - Add log directory (#908151) - Remove unnecessary service restart in logrotate (#915873) - Enable PIE compiler flags (#955203) References: [ 1 ] Bug #1165078 - lsyncd: command injection through backticks in a filename https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1165078 voms-2.0.12-1.el5 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4134) Virtual Organization Membership Service Update Information: VOMS update ChangeLog: * Mon Nov 17 2014 Mattias Ellert mattias.ell...@fysast.uu.se - 2.0.12-1 - Update to version 2.0.12 - Drop patches voms-gsoap.patch, voms-sha2-proxy.patch and voms-strndup.patch (accepted upstream) - Add alternatives to the client package to allow parallel installation of the java implementation of the client tools * Mon Aug 18 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 2.0.11-10 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_22_Mass_Rebuild * Sun Jul 13 2014 Mattias Ellert mattias.ell...@fysast.uu.se - 2.0.11-9 - Rebuild properly * Sun Jul 13 2014 Mattias Ellert mattias.ell...@fysast.uu.se - 2.0.11-8 - Rebuild for gsoap 2.8.17 (Fedora 22) ___ epel-devel mailing list epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/epel-devel
[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 6 updates-testing report
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing: Age URL 941 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6 160 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-1616/puppet-2.7.26-1.el6 31 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3434/pylint-1.3.1-1.el6,python-astroid-1.2.1-2.el6,python-logilab-common-0.62.1-2.el6 27 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3527/asterisk-1.8.31.1-1.el6 21 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3623/Pound-2.6-2.el6.1 17 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3748/tnftp-20141031-1.el6 14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3790/facter-1.6.18-7.el6 9 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3851/python-requests-kerberos-0.6-1.el6 8 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3927/drupal7-ckeditor-1.16-2.el6 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3962/oath-toolkit-2.0.2-5.el6 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4005/nginx-1.0.15-11.el6 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4008/cross-binutils-2.23.51.0.3-1.el6.1 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-3975/polarssl-1.3.2-3.el6 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-2069/php-channel-phpseclib-1.3-1.el6,php-sabredav-Sabre_VObject-2.1.4-2.el6,php-sabredav-Sabre_HTTP-1.7.11-1.el6,php-sabredav-Sabre_DAVACL-1.7.9-1.el6,php-sabredav-Sabre_DAV-1.7.13-1.el6,php-sabredav-Sabre_CardDAV-1.7.9-2.el6,php-sabredav-Sabre_CalDAV-1.7.9-1.el6,php-irodsphp-3.3.0-0.4.beta1.el6,php-phpseclib-net-ssh2-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-net-sftp-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-twofish-0.3.9-2.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-tripledes-0.3.9-2.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-rsa-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-rijndael-0.3.9-2.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-rc4-0.3.9-2.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-random-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-hash-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-des-0.3.9-2.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-blowfish-0.3.9-2.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-aes-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-math-biginteger-0.3.9-1.el6,php-phpseclib-crypt-base-0.3.9-1.el6,owncloud-6.0.5-4.el6 4 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4057/moodle-2.5.9-1.el6 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4151/lsyncd-2.1.4-4.el6.1.1 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4144/nodejs-0.10.33-1.el6,libuv-0.10.29-1.el6 The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 6 updates-testing abduco-0.2-1.el6 dmlite-0.7.2-1.el6 golang-github-docker-libcontainer-1.2.0-3.git28cb5f9.el6 golang-googlecode-goauth2-0-0.4.hgafe77d958c70.el6 gparted-0.19.1-1.el6 libuv-0.10.29-1.el6 lsyncd-2.1.4-4.el6.1.1 nodejs-0.10.33-1.el6 perl-Finance-Quote-1.35-1.el6 php-horde-Horde-Browser-2.0.8-1.el6 php-horde-Horde-Core-2.16.1-1.el6 php-horde-Horde-Crypt-2.5.1-1.el6 php-horde-Horde-Db-2.2.2-1.el6 php-horde-Horde-History-2.3.3-1.el6 php-horde-Horde-Mime-Viewer-2.0.8-1.el6 php-horde-Horde-Test-2.4.6-1.el6 python-bugzilla2fedmsg-0.2.1-1.el6 python-flask-openid-1.2.4-1.el6 voms-2.0.12-1.el6 Details about builds: abduco-0.2-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4128) Session management in a clean and simple way Update Information: update to 0.2 (RHBZ #1165180) ChangeLog: * Tue Nov 18 2014 Igor Gnatenko i.gnatenko.br...@gmail.com - 0.2-1 - update to 0.2 (RHBZ #1165180) * Fri Aug 15 2014 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 0.1-2 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_22_Mass_Rebuild References: [ 1 ] Bug #1165180 - abduco-0.2 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1165180 dmlite-0.7.2-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-4153) Lcgdm grid data management and storage framework Update Information: Update to 0.7.2, BugFix for too much verbose logging ChangeLog: * Tue Nov 18 2014 Adrien Devresse adevress at cern.ch - 0.7.2-1 - Update to 0.7.2, BugFix for too much verbose logging
Re: Suspend/resume broken on Lenovo laptops (Fedora 21 beta)
- Original Message - Guys and galls, if you have Lenovo laptop please install latest Fedora 21 beta and provide feedback because there are reported cases that suspend/resume doesn't work on Lenovo laptops. The only issue with Carbon X1 I have with Fedora 21 Beta it, that it takes quite a long time before login is accepted on lock screen. And seems like all DEs are affected so probably some underlying issue with logind/pam/whatever? Any hint where to look and file bz? R. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Status of weak dependencies support in Fedora 21+
On 15. 11. 2014 at 14:51:32, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jan Silhan wrote: 3. The page says The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very weak relations or the other way round does dnf do that? or not? DNF doesn't do that and never will. IMO that would be too hackish behavior. It's not hackish, it's configurable. Letting the user decide whether they want to have weak dependencies installed or not is part of the whole point of having them. I believe there is a misunderstanding there. It should be possible to move the bar of what's going to be selected for installation. I believe what Honza was referring to is that dnf will not support cases where it would swap the semantics of weak and very weak deps (i.e. treat Recommends as Suggests and vice versa). Thanks Jan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
I'm talking about the advertisement part. Some people seem to be bothered by this alone. Tiles feature indeed promotes some websites, but we already do that. No, actually we don't. We promote websites because we honestly think they're useful, not because we're paid to do so. That's irrelevant. Paid or not, promoting websites through tiles or gnome-shell is the same form of advertisement. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
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Re: Enable tapping by default
On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 15:50 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: Things are not black and white there is a disable touchpad while typing option which would solve your problem while not making the impression that something is broken like it is now. Possibly, but there is also the risk of accidentally tapping when you only want to move the pointer but your finger happens to tremble a little. (That's not about Parkinson's disease. Even to perfectly healthy people it's difficult to hold absolutely still.) Does anyone care to present some evidence showing that this works well for people in general? Note that I'm not against changing this default. I'm against changing it based on nothing but a baseless belief that it won't bother people. Björn Persson I have dry fingers... All the time. Tap to click drives me insane, as well as some of the socalled gesture enhancements. Capacitive screens also go nuts because dry fingers generate more static electricity and many devices simply do not have sufficient hysterysis to manage to differentiate close to touch, or static from real contact. I absolutely hate anything that makes the actual mechanical interface have no sense, and not knowing that tap to click is on is really frustrating, even if you can find the bit to turn it off. (system/controls, utilities/???, system/settings??? Moreover even if it can be turned off, how in the heck do you expect the user to be able to track down every little setting that modernsystems come up with? At some point we need to get one window where you can list and edit every single setting in one place, but who exactly will take on that particulary odious task? My own setting require larger fonts with out serifs, bold, 16 point or bigger (eyes going), louder sounds with an equalizer to help make up for the limited sound profiles in the hearing aids I can afford, And how about a real tactile keyboard that has a real nice mechanical feel and click? A mouse that really tracks where you tell it to go directly??? or some other device By the way, where is my 3d pointer and 3d screen with all the above, and don't skimp on the brightness either, sonny. Yeah, I'm an old fart, only type about 320 words perminute if I get the right settings, keyboard, and a key scanner that can keep up without turning my letters around. Clambering down from my soap box, now. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
On 11/18/2014 11:29 AM, Les Howell wrote: On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 15:50 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: Things are not black and white there is a disable touchpad while typing option which would solve your problem while not making the impression that something is broken like it is now. Possibly, but there is also the risk of accidentally tapping when you only want to move the pointer but your finger happens to tremble a little. (That's not about Parkinson's disease. Even to perfectly healthy people it's difficult to hold absolutely still.) Does anyone care to present some evidence showing that this works well for people in general? Note that I'm not against changing this default. I'm against changing it based on nothing but a baseless belief that it won't bother people. Björn Persson I have dry fingers... All the time. Tap to click drives me insane, as well as some of the socalled gesture enhancements. Capacitive screens also go nuts because dry fingers generate more static electricity and many devices simply do not have sufficient hysterysis to manage to differentiate close to touch, or static from real contact. You don't have to convince anyone that tapping is annoying :) I also find it annoying and disable it. The question is what should be the default for Workstation's target audience. It's not easy to answer, because we don't have any metrics. So we just assume what most users would expect from their touchpad. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
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Re: Enable tapping by default
Hi Mustafa! Mustafa Muhammad mustafaa.alhamda...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click by tapping is off by default. Several bug reports concerning this were closed as NOTABUG, but tapping is useful for us (people who use it), I don't think it bothers the others that much, and is on by default in most operating systems and Linux distributions. What can we do to make this happen? I'm totally with you here. For me intentionally *disabling* hardware features, just because some people can be confused, is fundamentally wrong [1]. But I've lost my hope years ago. This discussion has been raised couple of times already. Seems like the lobby is too strong. My advice is to just learn how to live with that. Unfortunately :( regards, J. [1] I know it's a far analogy, but let's try to imagine: Let's disable wifi hardware by default. Why? Because some people are not aware of this feature. They want to use their eth interface, and having wireless interface turned on produces unnecessary „noise” and confusion. If somebody wants to use wifi, they can enable it. Seems legit, right? -- jaroslav pgpONDJD7Bfrg.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
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Re: Join to Mozilla Location Service in Fedora
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Martin Stransky wrote: as you may know [0] Firefox in Fedora [1] is using Mozilla Location service [2] as a location provider instead of the Google one. I'd like to ask you to join the project, install the Mozilla Stumbler application [3] and help to improve the location accuracy. The Mozilla Location database is proprietary, and thus we should neither contribute nor encourage contributing to it, but instead support one or both of the following projects: http://www.openwlanmap.org/ http://www.openbmap.org/ Kevin Kofler From their FAQ [1] While we try to make the service as open as possible, the underlying data contains personally identifiable information from both the users uploading data to us and from the owners of WiFi devices. They care about their clients' privacy, just like we do. [1] https://wiki.mozilla.org/CloudServices/Location/FAQ#Can_I_download_the_entire_raw_database.3F -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
- Original Message - On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Björn Persson bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: Things are not black and white there is a disable touchpad while typing option which would solve your problem while not making the impression that something is broken like it is now. Possibly, but there is also the risk of accidentally tapping when you only want to move the pointer but your finger happens to tremble a little. (That's not about Parkinson's disease. Even to perfectly healthy people it's difficult to hold absolutely still.) Does anyone care to present some evidence showing that this works well for people in general? Note that I'm not against changing this default. I'm against changing it based on nothing but a baseless belief that it won't bother people. I don't want to change this because I believe it doesn't bother people, but because almost every other OS and Linux distribution have it enabled by default, No they don't. Specific drivers for specific touchpads for specific hardware will have tap-to-click enabled. This is usually because an engineer made the decision. and when people try to use Fedora and they can't tap to click, they have the impression that this is broken, Linux is bad, can't handle a touchpad right. No, they usually figure out that they need to enable tapping. By the way, Disable touchpad when writing is enabled by default, so this should not affect typing. No, it's not enabled by default. Tap-to-click is disabled because: 1) it confuses users who aren't used to tap-to-click, or don't use tap-to-click 2) it's especially bad on awful touchpads 3) most PC touchpads are awful (or awfully configured) Search for tap-to-click in the gnome-settings-daemon bugzilla product at https://bugzilla.gnome.org for more thorough explanations. In short, the default has already been decided upon. Cheers -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
- Original Message - Mustafa Muhammad mustafaa.alhamda...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Björn Persson bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: Perhaps demonstrate that it won't cause the rest of us to click on random things by accident, instead of just thinking so? I didn't say that, I said, I don't think it bothers the others that much. Then I can only conclude that you don't think it bothers people that much if they click on random things by accident. I know it would bother me, and I know one Windows user who had to disable tapping because the cursor kept jumping to random places in the text while she was typing. It can be disabled, but we are talking about the what the default behavior should be. Defaults should follow the principle of least surprise. A user who taps the touchpad and finds that nothing happens will have a good idea of what to look for in the settings. Not true - for many users it's just broken. Or better, that Linux thing is broken :). It's always the first thing I have to setup for my wife or explain to other people when they're using my laptop. Just saying, I really don't mind if it's on or off by default :))). Jaroslav -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
F-21 Branched report: 20141118 changes
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Re: Status of weak dependencies support in Fedora 21+
Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com wrote: On 15. 11. 2014 at 14:51:32, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jan Silhan wrote: 3. The page says The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very weak relations or the other way round does dnf do that? or not? DNF doesn't do that and never will. IMO that would be too hackish behavior. It's not hackish, it's configurable. Letting the user decide whether they want to have weak dependencies installed or not is part of the whole point of having them. I believe there is a misunderstanding there. It should be possible to move the bar of what's going to be selected for installation. I believe what Honza was referring to is that dnf will not support cases where it would swap the semantics of weak and very weak deps (i.e. treat Recommends as Suggests and vice versa). Yeah, doing both at once would be rather crazy. The quoted sentence says or, not and. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 11:15 +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: I'm talking about the advertisement part. Some people seem to be bothered by this alone. Tiles feature indeed promotes some websites, but we already do that. No, actually we don't. We promote websites because we honestly think they're useful, not because we're paid to do so. That's irrelevant. Paid or not, promoting websites through tiles or gnome-shell is the same form of advertisement. Money is not irrelevant. Paid advertising is how we wound up with pop-ups, hover ads, etc. The question is whether or not we can trust Mozilla to steer clear of such things. So far there seems to be no reason to trust Mozilla -- the ads are opt-out, they only sometimes respect DNT, and they are being pushed despite the backlash from Mozilla's community. At the very least Fedora should turn this feature off. My computer should only become a platform for displaying commercial ads if I explicitly opt-in to such a feature. -- Ben signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On 11/18/2014 02:55 PM, Benjamin Kreuter wrote: On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 11:15 +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: I'm talking about the advertisement part. Some people seem to be bothered by this alone. Tiles feature indeed promotes some websites, but we already do that. No, actually we don't. We promote websites because we honestly think they're useful, not because we're paid to do so. That's irrelevant. Paid or not, promoting websites through tiles or gnome-shell is the same form of advertisement. Money is not irrelevant. Paid advertising is how we wound up with pop-ups, hover ads, etc. The question is whether or not we can trust Mozilla to steer clear of such things. So far there seems to be no reason to trust Mozilla -- the ads are opt-out, they only sometimes respect DNT, and they are being pushed despite the backlash from Mozilla's community. This is a moral judgment, so it's irrelevant for making a policy decision (from Fedora's point of view). Money or not, we need a consistent policy on advertisements for all upstream. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
Jaroslav Nahorny jaros...@hackerspace.pl wrote: [1] I know it's a far analogy, but let's try to imagine: Let's disable wifi hardware by default. Why? Because some people are not aware of this feature. They want to use their eth interface, and having wireless interface turned on produces unnecessary „noise” and confusion. If somebody wants to use wifi, they can enable it. Seems legit, right? As far as I can tell Fedora doesn't automatically connect to Wifi networks it hasn't encountered before. You have to explicitly tell it to connect. Then, once you have enabled it, it may reconnect automatically thereafter. So yes, this seems not only legit; it seems to be reality. Björn Person signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Mattias Ellert mattias.ell...@fysast.uu.se wrote: tis 2014-11-18 klockan 00:16 +0200 skrev Nikos Roussos: On 11/18/2014 12:12 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:27:53PM +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote: Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click by tapping is off by default. Several bug reports concerning this were closed as NOTABUG, but tapping is useful for us (people who use it), I don't think it bothers the others that much, and is on by default in most operating systems and Linux distributions. What can we do to make this happen? This comes up every couple of versions, so here is the reasoning for disabled by default: * if you don't know that tapping is a thing (or enabled by default), you get spurious button events that make the desktop feel buggy. * if you do know what tapping is and you want it, you usually know where to enable it, or at least you can search for it. Well, in practice most users just think it's broken. You forgot one case though. * If you know what tapping is and you don't want it (enabled by default), you know where to go to disable it. Even if you know that this weird feature exists, it will take you hours to disable it, since while you are trying to find your way through setting and control panels you will get tons and tons of random clicks that open random windows that needs to be closed and change random settings that you need to reset. And while you try to do this you get even more random clicks that open new windows and change other stuff. This has pretty much nothing to do with reality. So please write sane mails when you ask for sanity ;) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
Hi, It looks like the recent Firefox Adds does not break any Fedora rules so it's perfectly ok to ship it as is. The H264 codec download feature break the Fedora law and has been removed from Fedora. When Fedora rules the Adds out of the apps it will be removed from FF immediately. Until that it's a grey zone and may or may not be removed/adjusted. I understand you want to promote Fedora/Gnome on the titles instead of some adds by Mozilla (no matter if it helps Mozilla to fund the browser development). There's a option to pin more tabs here (on just the Fedora start-up page) so we can provide our own set of start-up pages. Those should be obviously well selected and confirmed by Fedora officials. Please post your suggestions to #BZ and file a FESCO ticket for that. Another way how to promote Fedora is to set welcome page to start.fedoraproject.org. It appears when Firefox starts on fresh profile and can point people to the Fedora project. So let's start with this one, add the Fedora titles and discuss if apps in Fedora are or are not allowed to show any Adds. ma. On 11/15/2014 02:25 PM, Lars Seipel wrote: So Mozilla has recently gone live with its advertisement tiles on the New Tab page. Only newly created profiles get to see this stuff. On a pristine F21 install using Gnome, when first launching Firefox, users are presented with a number of tiles, depending on screen size. One of those is a so-called sponsored tile chosen from a range of available advertisements (e.g. for booking.com, there's also one for the Snowden movie), apparently depending on geographical location. When this feature got originally announced[1], there was a discussion on -devel if this kind of stuff is really appropriate for Fedora. Some time later Mozilla seemed to have canceled the feature, quoting That’s not going to happen. That’s not who we are at Mozilla. as one of the reasons[2]. Apparently, they (again) reconsidered, pushing the feature to nightlies a few months ago. Well, it now hit the stable branch and, therefore, Fedora. This is how Mozilla pitches the feature to advertisers[3]: To support ad personalization, Mozilla created an internal data system that aggregates user information while stripping out personally identifiable information. Mozilla can track impressions, clicks, and the number of ads a user hides or pins. Its advertising partners are also privy to that data. Personally, I don't think that showing advertisements on the free software desktop is appropriate. Our users are supposed to be able to fully trust our software. That's one of our most-often touted strenghts. I don't think the ability to track impressions, clicks, and the number of ads a user hides or pins is something that is compatible with that, regardless of this data being tied to personally identifiable information or not. Firefox's behaviour is probably nothing extraordinary on the other platforms Mozilla is targeting. Compared to the prevalent attitude of proprietary vendors, especially on mobile, it doesn't sound that bad anymore. I don't think that's a suitable scale for Fedora, though. From a user perspective, it's not that hard to disable the feature. Upon first seeing that page a tooltip is shown to hint at the possibility. Users can choose between three modes, Enhanced, Classic and Blank. Contrary to what is stated in the Mozilla kb[4], the only one that actually disables the ads is Blank, which is equal to setting the new tab page to about:blank. What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship applications to carry ads and report tracking data? [1] https://blog.mozilla.org/advancingcontent/2014/02/11/publisher-transformation-with-users-at-the-center/ [2] https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2014/05/09/new-tab-experiments/ [3] http://www.adexchanger.com/online-advertising/mozilla-finally-releases-its-browser-ad-product-hints-at-programmatic-in-2015/ [4] https://support.mozilla.org/de/kb/how-do-tiles-work-firefox#w_enhanced-tiles -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 14:58:41 +0100, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote: Another way how to promote Fedora is to set welcome page to start.fedoraproject.org. It appears when Firefox starts on fresh profile and can point people to the Fedora project. We shouldn't be doing that either. Any welcome page initially displayed should be from a copy on the installation, not something fetched from a remote server. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On 11/17/2014 02:15 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: Well, how to put it ... Mozilla.com's role in fedora has many times been subject to controvercies, but doubts have always been ruled ;) They always get special exceptions for any and all Fedora policies that upstream does not want to comply with, with the excuse that otherwise we might lose the right to use the Firefox name (as if that were a catastrophe – Debian has been doing fine with Iceweasel). I'm totally fed up of that kind of unfair privileged treatment that NO other package in Fedora is getting. I don't understand what are you talking about. Firefox in Fedora tries to carry minimal amount of patches because it's difficult to maintain those patches and rebase/update them with each Firefox release. If we need any modification in Fedora we ship it. All active Firefox development happens upstream anyway (gtk3 port, libnotify support recently) so Fedora does not need any extra patches, we get them from upstream anyway. If there's any issue which breaks Fedora rules, please file a bug and ideally add a patch for it. I'll gladly help you to fix any issue. I know only about some bundled libraries, but we don't have a fix for that and there are more pressing issues to fix. ma. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
Hi, Even if you know that this weird feature exists, it will take you hours to disable it, since while you are trying to find your way through setting and control panels you will get tons and tons of random clicks that open random windows that needs to be closed and change random settings that you need to reset. And while you try to do this you get even more random clicks that open new windows and change other stuff. This has pretty much nothing to do with reality. So please write sane mails when you ask for sanity ;) It may be a bit exaggerated, but I had exactly this problem multiple times already: Touchpad tap sensitivity is *way* to high and trying to move the pointer causes unintentional clicks all over the place, even after figuring it is very sensitive and being extra careful because of that. Dunno whenever that is due to crappy hardware or crappy software or crappy default configuration. Usually I grab a usb mouse, turn off tapping, be happy. Saw this not only Linux, but Windows too. Also there are touchpads which work fine. Which makes me suspect it is just crappy hardware. cheers, Gerd -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-11-19)
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2014-11-19 18:00 UTC' Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #1273 Policy interpretation on proprietary products in gnome-software, gnome overview search results .fesco 1273 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1273 #topic #1265 Fedora Plasma Product .fesco 1265 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1265 #topic #1326 change to fesco replacement process? .fesco 1326 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1326 #topic #1359 Automatic OpenH264 download by Firefox .fesco 1359 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1359 = New business = #topic #1367 Please define package manager expectations .fesco 1367 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1367 #topic #1368 How to deal with F21 broken dependencies .fesco 1368 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1368 #topic #1369 packages should disable internal crash handlers and depend on ABRT .fesco 1369 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1369 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting. -- Tomas Mraz No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back. Turkish proverb (You'll never know whether the road is wrong though.) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
On 18 Nov 2014 05:56, Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@who-t.net wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:16:26AM +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: On 11/18/2014 12:12 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:27:53PM +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote: Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click by tapping is off by default. Several bug reports concerning this were closed as NOTABUG, but tapping is useful for us (people who use it), I don't think it bothers the others that much, and is on by default in most operating systems and Linux distributions. What can we do to make this happen? This comes up every couple of versions, so here is the reasoning for disabled by default: * if you don't know that tapping is a thing (or enabled by default), you get spurious button events that make the desktop feel buggy. * if you do know what tapping is and you want it, you usually know where to enable it, or at least you can search for it. Well, in practice most users just think it's broken. and you have references for most? Not really reading the mailing lists too much, but this thread made me remember that on my laptop, when I found that tab to click does not work I assumed that the Linux drivers for my device are simply bad... Over the time I just got used to hitting the special button... (I only tweaked the config to some when get multi touch scroll working) But well I can only speak for myself, but I found it irritating. Regards, Erik -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys
On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 12:11 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Firefox also builds a repository of intermediate certificates over time and uses them automatically to fill gaps in certificate chains for completely unrelated sites. This leads to somewhat non-predictable behavior regarding the set of sites to which Firefox can connect reliably. This is difficult to emulate in one-shot command line tools such as wget which do not keep any local state by default. And that's arguably the biggest problem of all. The goal is to reduce certificate validation failures for users who have seen a particular intermediate cert before, but the effect is that web developers get false positives when testing whether their sites are set up properly or not. This just makes things worse in the long run. Chrome does this as well (when using NSS -- not sure if Chrome on Linux uses NSS, but Chrome on Windows does). signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
Hi, On 11/16/2014 05:36 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 15.11.2014 v 15:06 Kevin Kofler napsal(a): Lars Seipel wrote: What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship applications to carry ads and report tracking data? No! IMHO, we should consider dropping Firefox from Fedora entirely, in favor of Epiphany for Workstation and Midori for the Spins (except the KDE Spin which already ships Konqueror as the browser). With all due respect to the developers, Midori is not production ready. Kevin Kofler I believe M$ made good experience with ballot screen, may be we should implement something similar in open source spirit ;) If we do not want Firefox as default, this seems to be much better option than just replacing it with a specific one IMHO. Tomas Radej -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
[Test-Announce] 2014-11-19 @ 1600 UTC ** Blocker Review Meeting
# F21 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2014-11-19 # Time: 16:00 UTC (run date -d '2014-11-19 16:00 UTC' to see local time) # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net It's that time of the week again! Things have been moving along smoothly after the Beta release - and now Freeze is upon us for final. This means we'll not only be giving some love to the proposed blockers, but also looking into the proposed Freeze Exceptions. Currently we have 6 proposed blockers and 5 proposed FEs. If you want to take a look at the accepted blockers, the full list can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/21/final/buglist We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate the Final Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F21 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting See you Wednesday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- // Mike -- Fedora QA freenode: roshi http://roshi.fedorapeople.org ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: RFC: xserver update strategy in F21+
On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 08:24 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: But in the end Fedora and its kernel maintainers didn't care. Which might be the right thing to do for X as well, because companies then learn that they need to keep track of ongoing development and users notice some of the risks these driver bear. Holding free drivers hostage to closed ones is obviously off the table; if I need to update X to get a feature into Fedora's radeon driver, and catalyst hasn't caught up yet, catalyst is going to lose that fight. But even the best free operating system is worthless if you can't use it, and the binary drivers do have actual features beyond the free ones that people do in fact depend on to get work done. So, while we continue to work on getting to feature parity, I don't want to be arbitrarily harsh to people who don't have a choice in the matter. It sounds like people are reasonably comfortable with a kernel-like update policy. If we run into that kind of ABI scenario with binary drivers, presumably the best course of action is to bring it up for discussion case by case and refer it to FESCO if it's especially contentious. Meanwhile, I've started assembling a crib sheet: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RebasingXserver I'll flesh that out more as we approach the first actual rebase like this, which if I had to guess would likely be early 2015. - ajax -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: RFC: xserver update strategy in F21+
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:24 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis fed...@leemhuis.info wrote: Lo! Adam Jackson wrote on 17.11.2014 20:06: With that in mind, I ask for feedback on how we'd actually like that to work. The kernel rebase policy seems like a pretty reasonable model: F21 would stay on 1.16.x until there's an upstream 1.17.1 release, and (if F20 were to be affected by this policy) F20 would wait until 1.17.1 had been tested in F21. One thing we might have to play by ear is the interaction with binary drivers. The nvidia legacy driver, for instance, does not always have builds available for arbitrarily new servers, which means updating the X server might change you to an nvidia driver that no longer supports your hardware. Depending on how severe that cutoff is, it might be cause to pin a particular Fedora release at a given server version. I don't think this is presently a problem, but it could be in the future. The same problem can and did arise with the kernel updates Fedora does. Fglrx/catalyst in the past more than once got broken when Fedora shipped a new major version (3.x - 3.(x+1)) as a regular update, because the flgrx/catalyst kernel module the flgrx/catalyst driver for X.org relies on was incompatible with the new kernel. Sometimes (but not always!) there were patches to work around that (and yes, they often got integrated into RPM Fusion packages). But in the end Fedora and its kernel maintainers didn't care. Which It's not that we don't care. That can come off like we're gleefully breaking people's machines for fun, which is certainly not the case. However, as Adam said, we aren't going to hold the kernel package hostage to closed drivers. Unlike XServer, people have parallel installed kernels and can boot into the older one while they wait for their proprietary driver to update it really isn't as dire as people make the situation sound. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
Peter Hutterer píše v Út 18. 11. 2014 v 14:55 +1000: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:16:26AM +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: On 11/18/2014 12:12 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:27:53PM +0300, Mustafa Muhammad wrote: Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click by tapping is off by default. Several bug reports concerning this were closed as NOTABUG, but tapping is useful for us (people who use it), I don't think it bothers the others that much, and is on by default in most operating systems and Linux distributions. What can we do to make this happen? This comes up every couple of versions, so here is the reasoning for disabled by default: * if you don't know that tapping is a thing (or enabled by default), you get spurious button events that make the desktop feel buggy. * if you do know what tapping is and you want it, you usually know where to enable it, or at least you can search for it. Well, in practice most users just think it's broken. and you have references for most? We introduced Fedora to several hundred new computer science students at the local university and How do I enable clicking by tapping? was by far the most frequent question from those who had tried Fedora and come to us with questions. People just expect this to be enabled. Jiri -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
Mustafa Muhammad píše v Po 17. 11. 2014 v 14:27 +0300: Hi, I am testing Fedora 21 beta and -like all previous versions- click by tapping is off by default. Several bug reports concerning this were closed as NOTABUG, but tapping is useful for us (people who use it), I don't think it bothers the others that much, and is on by default in most operating systems and Linux distributions. What can we do to make this happen? If you're talking about Workstation, then you should probably propose it to their working group on the desktop mailing list. The working groups are supposed to do such decisions now. If you're talking about one of other spins (KDE, Xfce,...), then you should go to the respective SIG. Jiri -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: ca-certificates 2014.2.1 will remove several still valid CA certificates with weak keys
Am 18.11.2014 um 16:12 schrieb Michael Catanzaro: On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 12:11 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: Firefox also builds a repository of intermediate certificates over time and uses them automatically to fill gaps in certificate chains for completely unrelated sites. This leads to somewhat non-predictable behavior regarding the set of sites to which Firefox can connect reliably. This is difficult to emulate in one-shot command line tools such as wget which do not keep any local state by default. And that's arguably the biggest problem of all. The goal is to reduce certificate validation failures for users who have seen a particular intermediate cert before, but the effect is that web developers get false positives when testing whether their sites are set up properly or not. This just makes things worse in the long run. true - *but* anybody responsible for a https site should at leat once per month run https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ against it as far as i can say the best tool available, not only for check the certificate chain, also browser support, optimal cipher configuration and last but not least recent security issues reported signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Tomas Radej tra...@redhat.com wrote: I believe M$ made good experience with ballot screen, may be we should implement something similar in open source spirit ;) If we do not want Firefox as default, this seems to be much better option than just replacing it with a specific one IMHO. The ballot screen was required to be developed by Microsoft as part of the settlement of the anti-trust case with the EU. Mozilla's Firefox ads don't even begin to approach what Microsoft was doing. We don't need a default-o-matic program where people would end up choosing Firefox anyway. If we really wanted to provide a free alternative to Firefox, we'd get Chromium working - it is really the only viable alternative. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 15:12 +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: This is a moral judgment, so it's irrelevant for making a policy decision (from Fedora's point of view). Money or not, we need a consistent policy on advertisements for all upstream. How about an opt-in requirement? -- Ben signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
I want to make Ryan Hallisey a co-maintainer of policycoreutils.
He is not currently in the packager list. But he does not have a package that needs to be added to Fedora. He is just making changes to policycoreutils? What is the procedure to get him on the packager list for this package. Dan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On November 18, 2014 7:08:47 PM EET, Benjamin Kreuter ben.kreu...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 15:12 +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: This is a moral judgment, so it's irrelevant for making a policy decision (from Fedora's point of view). Money or not, we need a consistent policy on advertisements for all upstream. How about an opt-in requirement? Yes, that would make more sense. But I didn't opt-in to see commercial websites on gnome-shell either (and I can't even opt-out). -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 14:58:41 +0100, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote: Another way how to promote Fedora is to set welcome page to start.fedoraproject.org. It appears when Firefox starts on fresh profile and can point people to the Fedora project. We shouldn't be doing that either. Any welcome page initially displayed should be from a copy on the installation, not something fetched from a remote server. That's getting into the paranoid area .. where do you draw the line? The fedora project (and lots of its mirros)also gets your ip when the system checks for updates, -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Nikos Roussos comzer...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On November 18, 2014 7:08:47 PM EET, Benjamin Kreuter ben.kreu...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 15:12 +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: This is a moral judgment, so it's irrelevant for making a policy decision (from Fedora's point of view). Money or not, we need a consistent policy on advertisements for all upstream. How about an opt-in requirement? Yes, that would make more sense. But I didn't opt-in to see commercial websites on gnome-shell either (and I can't even opt-out). You can disable the search provider in Settings - Search -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
Hi, On 11/18/2014 05:46 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Tomas Radej tra...@redhat.com wrote: I believe M$ made good experience with ballot screen, may be we should implement something similar in open source spirit ;) If we do not want Firefox as default, this seems to be much better option than just replacing it with a specific one IMHO. The ballot screen was required to be developed by Microsoft as part of the settlement of the anti-trust case with the EU. Mozilla's Firefox ads don't even begin to approach what Microsoft was doing. We don't need a Nobody said we'd do it for the same reason. default-o-matic program where people would end up choosing Firefox anyway. If we really wanted to provide a free alternative to Firefox, we'd get Chromium working - it is really the only viable alternative. While I concur that there's not much alternative to Firefox, I think in this context, choosing Chromium is going out of the frying pan and into the fire. I might have been doing it wrong, but even after I disabled every single call-home thing I could, wireshark still detected a few packets sent to Google servers upon Chromium starting, whereas with Firefox, nothing was sent at all until I started typing in the address bar. Additionally, the Google way of open source development is arguably less-than-stellar, as illustrated in [1], and some of the bugs that prevent Chromium to be present in the mainline Fedora repositories have been open since 2009 without much progress (listed as blockers for [2]). Based on the aforementioned, I think it's infinitely easier to fix Firefox than push for Chromium. Tomas Radej [1] http://ostatic.com/blog/making-projects-easier-to-package-why-chromium-isnt-in-fedora [2] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28287 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 18:16:12 +0100, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: We shouldn't be doing that either. Any welcome page initially displayed should be from a copy on the installation, not something fetched from a remote server. That's getting into the paranoid area .. where do you draw the line? The fedora project (and lots of its mirros)also gets your ip when the system checks for updates, Mozilla is a third party. There is no reason that they should be contacted by default. Even for mirrors, people run local mirrors. Not every installation contacts Fedora mirrors directly. The cost of avoiding phoning home in tese cases is low. You can install a copy of the file locally and use a file: reference to it. The file can include a link to the source so that people can fetch a possibly more up to date version if they want. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
Am 18.11.2014 um 18:29 schrieb Bruno Wolff III: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 18:16:12 +0100, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: We shouldn't be doing that either. Any welcome page initially displayed should be from a copy on the installation, not something fetched from a remote server. That's getting into the paranoid area .. where do you draw the line? The fedora project (and lots of its mirros)also gets your ip when the system checks for updates, Mozilla is a third party. There is no reason that they should be contacted by default. calling upstream 3rd party is somehow strange most code in fedora is from 3rd party if you don't trust the 3rd party you *really* need to review every single line of code Even for mirrors, people run local mirrors. Not every installation contacts Fedora mirrors directly. most of them for sure not because hide the IP typically it's done because someone has to maintain 5, 10, 20, 100 machines and want to save time and/or bandwidth, maybe even combined with save ressources of the official mirrors The cost of avoiding phoning home in tese cases is low. You can install a copy of the file locally and use a file: reference to it. The file can include a link to the source so that people can fetch a possibly more up to date version if they want. nobody said anything against that *but* please avoid FUD and paranoia and claim upstream unstrustable until you can prove that instead of assume it signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 17:14 +, Nikos Roussos wrote: On November 18, 2014 7:08:47 PM EET, Benjamin Kreuter ben.kreu...@gmail.com wrote: How about an opt-in requirement? Yes, that would make more sense. But I didn't opt-in to see commercial websites on gnome-shell either (and I can't even opt-out). OK, so that would also be turned off by default. Is there some reason why that would be a bad thing for Fedora users or developers? -- Ben signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Tomas Radej tra...@redhat.com wrote: Based on the aforementioned, I think it's infinitely easier to fix Firefox than push for Chromium. I am aware of bugs you mentioned. The fact remains that Chromium is the only viable alternative to Firefox... so if we're interested in providing an alternative to Firefox then we need resolve the blocking bugs. Regarding a few packets being sent to Google... that could be anything or nothing. If you're curious then I would suggest you open a bug with the Chromium project and ask. I'm not at all concerned about it, and FWIW people are accusing Mozilla of the exact same thing. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:00:35 -0600 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 14:58:41 +0100, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote: Another way how to promote Fedora is to set welcome page to start.fedoraproject.org. It appears when Firefox starts on fresh profile and can point people to the Fedora project. We shouldn't be doing that either. Any welcome page initially displayed should be from a copy on the installation, not something fetched from a remote server. start.fedoraproject.org is actually a dynamic page, not something that could be repointed locally. At least as it's currently implemented. kevin pgpXQi2MQRjjn.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
[perl-DateTime-TimeZone] 1.80 bump, based on version 2014j of the Olson database
commit 06865a8417d55025b0f0e3fcf81d34bd913bb58d
Author: Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com
Date: Tue Nov 18 18:44:00 2014 +0100
1.80 bump, based on version 2014j of the Olson database
perl-DateTime-TimeZone.spec |8 ++--
sources |2 +-
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diff --git a/perl-DateTime-TimeZone.spec b/perl-DateTime-TimeZone.spec
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+++ b/perl-DateTime-TimeZone.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
Name: perl-DateTime-TimeZone
-Version:1.76
+Version:1.80
Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:Time zone object base class and factory
License:GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -12,7 +12,6 @@ Patch0:
DateTime-TimeZone-1.74-Parse-etc-localtime-by-DateTime-TimeZone-
BuildArch: noarch
BuildRequires: perl
BuildRequires: perl(base)
-BuildRequires: perl(Class::Load)
BuildRequires: perl(Class::Singleton) = 1.03
BuildRequires: perl(constant)
BuildRequires: perl(Cwd) = 3
@@ -27,6 +26,7 @@ BuildRequires: perl(File::Temp)
BuildRequires: perl(lib)
BuildRequires: perl(List::AllUtils)
BuildRequires: perl(List::Util)
+BuildRequires: perl(Module::Runtime)
BuildRequires: perl(overload)
BuildRequires: perl(Params::Validate) = 0.72
BuildRequires: perl(parent)
@@ -38,6 +38,7 @@ BuildRequires: perl(Test::More) = 0.88
BuildRequires: perl(Test::Output)
BuildRequires: perl(Test::Requires)
BuildRequires: perl(Test::Taint)
+BuildRequires: perl(Try::Tiny)
BuildRequires: perl(vars)
BuildRequires: perl(warnings)
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%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Tue Nov 18 2014 Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com - 1.80-1
+- 1.80 bump, based on version 2014j of the Olson database
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* Mon Nov 03 2014 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 1.76-1
- 1.76 bump
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@@ -1 +1 @@
-9aeccf8c911c8e3ec18c8194de3a3840 DateTime-TimeZone-1.76.tar.gz
+0d920391092bb48000d103045276bc33 DateTime-TimeZone-1.80.tar.gz
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Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: *but* please avoid FUD and paranoia and claim upstream unstrustable until you can prove that instead of assume it Exactly! Thank you! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On 11/18/2014 07:21 PM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Nikos Roussos comzer...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On November 18, 2014 7:08:47 PM EET, Benjamin Kreuter ben.kreu...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 15:12 +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: This is a moral judgment, so it's irrelevant for making a policy decision (from Fedora's point of view). Money or not, we need a consistent policy on advertisements for all upstream. How about an opt-in requirement? Yes, that would make more sense. But I didn't opt-in to see commercial websites on gnome-shell either (and I can't even opt-out). You can disable the search provider in Settings - Search I'll have to completely disable Software as search provider, which I don't want to do. Unless I'm missing something. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Suspend/resume broken on Lenovo laptops (Fedora 21 beta)
Thanks to this bugreport [1] now suspend and resume work as expected on Fedora 21, finally! Issue was with missing TPM modules! One solution would be to disable TPM in EFI/BIOS and other to install missing kernel-modules-extra package. Now resume finally works! Also suspend now takes almost twice as long, and screen blinks quite few more times like this: on-pressed_suspend-off-on-off-on-off But main thing is that both suspend and resume work now as expected. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1164937 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se writes: Jaroslav Nahorny jaros...@hackerspace.pl wrote: [1] I know it's a far analogy, but let's try to imagine: Let's disable wifi hardware by default. Why? Because some people are not aware of this feature. They want to use their eth interface, and having wireless interface turned on produces unnecessary „noise” and confusion. If somebody wants to use wifi, they can enable it. Seems legit, right? As far as I can tell Fedora doesn't automatically connect to Wifi networks it hasn't encountered before. You have to explicitly tell it to connect. Then, once you have enabled it, it may reconnect automatically thereafter. So yes, this seems not only legit; it seems to be reality. I didn't mean connecting (or not) to wireless networks, but disabling hardware from normal operation. This is what we are at the moment doing with touchpads. We are disabling a feature those devices have built-in. -- jaroslav pgpOGrodAu96Z.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 18:40:02 +0100, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 18.11.2014 um 18:29 schrieb Bruno Wolff III: Mozilla is a third party. There is no reason that they should be contacted by default. calling upstream 3rd party is somehow strange most code in fedora is from 3rd party I am first party. Fedora is second party. I deal directly with Fedora. Mozilla is a third party. I don't deal with them. if you don't trust the 3rd party you *really* need to review every single line of code I expect Fedora to protect my interests, so I don't have to do code reviews. Clearly there are limits to that, but I except some risk in order to save time and money. *but* please avoid FUD and paranoia and claim upstream unstrustable until you can prove that instead of assume it I made no such claim. What I don't want to have to do is to have to trust them to be responsible about data they have no need for in the first place. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
Mustafa Muhammad wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Björn Persson bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote: By the way, Disable touchpad when writing is enabled by default, so this should not affect typing. No, it's not enabled by default. It is enabled here, I am using F21 KDE beta and Disable touchpad when writing is enabled by default. In the still-current traditional X11 world (this will change with libinput, i.e. with the Wayland transition), Disable touchpad while typing is not implemented in the driver, but in a session service owned by the desktop environment. Therefore, there can be different defaults for that particular option in different desktop environments. Bastien Nocera was speaking for gnome-settings-daemon in GNOME, where the option is off by default, whereas the latest kcm_touchpad in KDE Plasma enables it by default. (Previous versions of kcm_touchpad did not even support the option at all, it was present in the dialog, but always grayed out because the session service was not implemented.) Note that this applies ONLY to that Disable touchpad while typing option. The other settings (including tapping) ARE owned by the driver. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 09:44:04 -0800, Gerald B. Cox gb...@bzb.us wrote: I am aware of bugs you mentioned. The fact remains that Chromium is the only viable alternative to Firefox... Why do you claim that? What requirements do you think we must provide for in our default browser that other browser we have packages for don't meet? I find Midori reasonable on x86_64. There is currently an i686 problem because a library it uses is compiled with an incorrect architecure (it uses instructions that aren't supported on hardware Fedora is upposed to support). So I have problems with it on i686, but this isn't directly a Midori problem. Seamonkey seems pretty reasonable as well. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
Erik Schilling wrote: Over the time I just got used to hitting the special button... And that's what that special button is for. :-) If the touchpad has physical buttons (or physically-drawn virtual buttons), why do users even expect tapping to produce a click? The finger area is for moving, the buttons are for clicking. The only case in which tapping makes sense is if the touchpad has NO buttons at all (but then how do you right-click? So I don't expect this to be a common case, except maybe in Apple's one-button land). Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
On 18/11/14 22:02, Kevin Kofler wrote: Erik Schilling wrote: Over the time I just got used to hitting the special button... And that's what that special button is for. :-) If the touchpad has physical buttons (or physically-drawn virtual buttons), why do users even expect tapping to produce a click? The finger area is for moving, the buttons are for clicking. The only case in which tapping makes sense is if the touchpad has NO buttons at all (but then how do you right-click? So I don't expect this to be a common case, except maybe in Apple's one-button land). Kevin Kofler Well i prefer normal touch. No need to press another button or even to move the finger. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
On 11/18/2014 01:02 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Erik Schilling wrote: Over the time I just got used to hitting the special button... And that's what that special button is for. :-) If the touchpad has physical buttons (or physically-drawn virtual buttons), why do users even expect tapping to produce a click? The finger area is for moving, the buttons are for clicking. The only case in which tapping makes sense is if the touchpad has NO buttons at all (but then how do you right-click? So I don't expect this to be a common case, except maybe in Apple's one-button land). Kevin Kofler the Lenovo Yog-Pro 2 has a flat touchpad which takes right or left bottom corner presses and reacts to taps to the center. Tom Gilliard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
Jiri Eischmann wrote: If you're talking about Workstation, then you should probably propose it to their working group on the desktop mailing list. The working groups are supposed to do such decisions now. If you're talking about one of other spins (KDE, Xfce,...), then you should go to the respective SIG. I disagree with that. It's a decision made at the driver level, it does not make sense to override that per desktop environment. We are not going to override this default on the KDE Spin. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
drago01 wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Mattias Ellert mattias.ell...@fysast.uu.se wrote: Even if you know that this weird feature exists, it will take you hours to disable it, since while you are trying to find your way through setting and control panels you will get tons and tons of random clicks that open random windows that needs to be closed and change random settings that you need to reset. And while you try to do this you get even more random clicks that open new windows and change other stuff. This has pretty much nothing to do with reality. So please write sane mails when you ask for sanity ;) It is when you have never used a tap-to-click device and thus are not used to the extra-soft touch that it takes to move without tapping. Then literally EVERY cursor move you make will trigger an accidental click. I have personally experienced that. This is not an exaggeration at all. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Erik Schilling wrote: Over the time I just got used to hitting the special button... And that's what that special button is for. :-) If the touchpad has physical buttons (or physically-drawn virtual buttons), why do users even expect tapping to produce a click? The finger area is for moving, the buttons are for clicking. The only case in which tapping makes sense is if the touchpad has NO buttons at all (but then how do you right-click? So I don't expect this to be a common case, except maybe in Apple's one-button land). At some point in time, with some version of Fedora and some device driver... I used to have 'double-tap' to 'single-click'. I found it useful when I had it, and still occasionally miss it today. But I personally would disagree with concept of 'tap to click' for all the obvious reasons already mentioned, regardless of having physical or virtual buttons. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
On 11/18/2014 11:09 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jiri Eischmann wrote: If you're talking about Workstation, then you should probably propose it to their working group on the desktop mailing list. The working groups are supposed to do such decisions now. If you're talking about one of other spins (KDE, Xfce,...), then you should go to the respective SIG. I disagree with that. It's a decision made at the driver level, it does not make sense to override that per desktop environment. It's a UX thing, so the Workstation WG seems like the best place to decide this (at least for Gnome). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: drago01 wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Mattias Ellert mattias.ell...@fysast.uu.se wrote: Even if you know that this weird feature exists, it will take you hours to disable it, since while you are trying to find your way through setting and control panels you will get tons and tons of random clicks that open random windows that needs to be closed and change random settings that you need to reset. And while you try to do this you get even more random clicks that open new windows and change other stuff. This has pretty much nothing to do with reality. So please write sane mails when you ask for sanity ;) It is when you have never used a tap-to-click device and thus are not used to the extra-soft touch that it takes to move without tapping. Then literally EVERY cursor move you make will trigger an accidental click. I have personally experienced that. This is not an exaggeration at all. Are you sure that you don't have a crappy / broken touchpad ? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
Bruno Wolff III wrote: Why do you claim that? What requirements do you think we must provide for in our default browser that other browser we have packages for don't meet? I find Midori reasonable on x86_64. There is currently an i686 problem because a library it uses is compiled with an incorrect architecure (it uses instructions that aren't supported on hardware Fedora is upposed to support). So I have problems with it on i686, but this isn't directly a Midori problem. Seamonkey seems pretty reasonable as well. That's a webkitgtk issue, look at how we handle this in QtWebKit. (You have to build the library twice, as /usr/lib/libwebkitgtk* with the WebKit JIT disabled and as /usr/lib/sse2/libwebkitgtk* with the JIT enabled. The WebKit JavaScript JIT requires SSE2. The interpreter works fine without it.) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
I wrote: If the touchpad has physical buttons (or physically-drawn virtual buttons), why do users even expect tapping to produce a click? The finger area is for moving, the buttons are for clicking. The only case in which tapping makes sense is if the touchpad has NO buttons at all (but then how do you right-click? So I don't expect this to be a common case, except maybe in Apple's one-button land). PS: And IIRC, the synaptics driver actually has a quirks list of known buttonless touchpads and enables tapping for those, so that case is already handled. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:02:10PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: do you right-click? So I don't expect this to be a common case, except maybe in Apple's one-button land). Apple also disables tap-to-click by default. So if it's true that users expect that to be enabled those expectations must've been set somewhere else. Some more anecdata: Personally, I don't like tap-to-click but know perfectly well how to deal with it (by disabling all touchpad functionality in the firmware and use a trackpoint, like all self-respecting people do). So as far as I'm concerned, the default doesn't matter. Some family members, though, mostly use their laptop with an external mouse (i.e. not consciously using the touchpad at all). Until I showed them that tap-to-click is a thing and can be disabled, they were experiencing spurious quirks and had no idea what was causing them, thinking they maybe hit a wrong key on the keyboard by accident or that there's something wrong with their device or software setup. I think the current Fedora default is the right thing to do. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at writes: Erik Schilling wrote: Over the time I just got used to hitting the special button... And that's what that special button is for. :-) If the touchpad has physical buttons (or physically-drawn virtual buttons), why do users even expect tapping to produce a click? The finger area is for moving, the buttons are for clicking. For speed sake. You don't have to move your fingers. It's like with the scroll-wheel on a mouse. Why do you need a scroll wheel? You could as well just point the mouse to the scroll marker on right side of the window, click LMB and move the mouse. It's doable. Why do you need a scroll-wheel then. Or use PgUp / PgDown keys on your keyboard. Furthermore, why a mouse / touchpad at all? You can use keyboard for navigation. So those are personal preferences. One person prefers scroll-wheel, the other PgUp / PgDown keys. The thing is, a touchpad is a piece of hardware. With some features built-in. And we are by default disabling a feature this device offers out of the box. I know it's a matter of preferences. Exactly like the way you mount a roll of toilet paper on a wall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_paper_orientation). I know some people hate this feature (tapping) and some love it. But I think, if the device have some capability (feature) it shouldn't be disabled by default. -- jaroslav pgpTQ9qsoOGh_.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Suspend/resume broken on Lenovo laptops (Fedora 21 beta)
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:53:09 +0100 valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Issue was with missing TPM modules! One solution would be to disable TPM in EFI/BIOS and other to install missing kernel-modules-extra package. Jackpot, that was my problem too. The interesting thing is that I noticed that module missing a while ago (mentioned it on -test even), but somehow my attempt to get it in place must have failed; I concluded it wasn't the problem. Silly me. Life is better now, thanks. jon -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 22:22 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: That's a webkitgtk issue, look at how we handle this in QtWebKit. (You have to build the library twice, as /usr/lib/libwebkitgtk* with the WebKit JIT disabled and as /usr/lib/sse2/libwebkitgtk* with the JIT enabled. The WebKit JavaScript JIT requires SSE2. The interpreter works fine without it.) Kevin Kofler Hi, Is there a bug report about this? Could you point me to it if so? i686 is absolutely a supported architecture, it's just not one that's regularly tested. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:15:33AM +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: No, actually we don't. We promote websites because we honestly think they're useful, not because we're paid to do so. That's irrelevant. Paid or not, promoting websites through tiles or gnome-shell is the same form of advertisement. I disagree. Think about it: imagine I told you as a friend how I was at some pub yesterday and enthusiastically rave about how it was totally awesome and that you should go there, too. Now, in the one case I told you this because I'm honestly convinced that it would be fun for you to go there and that you'd like it. In the other case I did it because the owner paid me for it. Really no difference? I don't think so. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 16:22:54 -0600, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: Is there a bug report about this? Could you point me to it if so? i686 is absolutely a supported architecture, it's just not one that's regularly tested. This is the one for webkit: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1103967 I got this partially confused with the one for xchat: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1101811 The xchat one is where another library is the culprit. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Mozilla enabled ads in Firefox and they're active in Fedora
I'm killfiling this thread and I'm inches away from leaving the mailing list. Can we move on? On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 16:22:54 -0600, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: Is there a bug report about this? Could you point me to it if so? i686 is absolutely a supported architecture, it's just not one that's regularly tested. This is the one for webkit: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1103967 I got this partially confused with the one for xchat: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1101811 The xchat one is where another library is the culprit. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/znmeb; Computational Journalism on a Stick http://j.mp/CompJournoStickOverview Remember, if you're traveling to Bactria, Hump Day is Tuesday and Thursday. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 09:16:34PM +0100, Jaroslav Nahorny wrote: Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se writes: Jaroslav Nahorny jaros...@hackerspace.pl wrote: [1] I know it's a far analogy, but let's try to imagine: Let's disable wifi hardware by default. Why? Because some people are not aware of this feature. They want to use their eth interface, and having wireless interface turned on produces unnecessary „noise” and confusion. If somebody wants to use wifi, they can enable it. Seems legit, right? As far as I can tell Fedora doesn't automatically connect to Wifi networks it hasn't encountered before. You have to explicitly tell it to connect. Then, once you have enabled it, it may reconnect automatically thereafter. So yes, this seems not only legit; it seems to be reality. I didn't mean connecting (or not) to wireless networks, but disabling hardware from normal operation. This is what we are at the moment doing with touchpads. We are disabling a feature those devices have built-in. you're aware that tapping is a pure software feature? if we didn't implement it in the driver, it wouldn't exist. Cheers, Peter -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:05:01PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: drago01 wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Mattias Ellert mattias.ell...@fysast.uu.se wrote: Even if you know that this weird feature exists, it will take you hours to disable it, since while you are trying to find your way through setting and control panels you will get tons and tons of random clicks that open random windows that needs to be closed and change random settings that you need to reset. And while you try to do this you get even more random clicks that open new windows and change other stuff. This has pretty much nothing to do with reality. So please write sane mails when you ask for sanity ;) It is when you have never used a tap-to-click device and thus are not used to the extra-soft touch that it takes to move without tapping. Then literally EVERY cursor move you make will trigger an accidental click. I have personally experienced that. This is not an exaggeration at all. that sounds like bug, please file it here: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=xorg, component Input/synaptics with one or more evemu recordings attached that triggered an accidental tap. while tapping has its drawbacks, it's not supposed to be that bad. Cheers, Peter -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:59:24PM +0100, Jaroslav Nahorny wrote: Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at writes: Erik Schilling wrote: Over the time I just got used to hitting the special button... And that's what that special button is for. :-) If the touchpad has physical buttons (or physically-drawn virtual buttons), why do users even expect tapping to produce a click? The finger area is for moving, the buttons are for clicking. For speed sake. You don't have to move your fingers. It's like with the scroll-wheel on a mouse. Why do you need a scroll wheel? You could as well just point the mouse to the scroll marker on right side of the window, click LMB and move the mouse. It's doable. Why do you need a scroll-wheel then. Or use PgUp / PgDown keys on your keyboard. Furthermore, why a mouse / touchpad at all? You can use keyboard for navigation. So those are personal preferences. One person prefers scroll-wheel, the other PgUp / PgDown keys. The thing is, a touchpad is a piece of hardware. With some features built-in. And we are by default disabling a feature this device offers out of the box. I know it's a matter of preferences. Exactly like the way you mount a roll of toilet paper on a wall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_paper_orientation). that page's existence just made my day. thanks :) I know some people hate this feature (tapping) and some love it. But I think, if the device have some capability (feature) it shouldn't be disabled by default. slippery slope. synaptics has a lot of features that we don't enable by default even though the hw has the theoretical capability. examples are clickfinger, corner buttons, circular scrolling. remember that a touchpad is just that, a surface that responds to touch. everything else is done in the driver and there isn't really a limit what you could do based on that capability. tapping is no more built-in than pinch-to-zoom (which we don't even support atm). Cheers, Peter -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: rawhide report: 20141118 changes
alex-3.0.5-37.fc21 requires libHSbase-4.6.0.1-ghc7.6.3.so : : Sorry for all the missing ghc libHS* provides...: this happened while rebuilding ghc to use llvm34 to get it to work again on ARM, due to some recent dependency generation changes in ghc-rpm-macros. I already fixed this yesterday in ghc-7.6.3-28.fc22 but not in time for the rawhide (report) cut-off... (I also backported the needed ghc dependency generation change to F21 to avoid this happening there with a rebuild in the future.) Jens -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Enable tapping by default
Jaroslav Nahorny composed on 2014-11-18 22:59 (UTC+0100): I think, if the device have some capability (feature) it shouldn't be disabled by default. Right. Every feature every programmer takes the trouble to put into a program, and every feature every chip maker puts into his chip, should be enabled by default, no matter how much sense the feature makes, or whether it makes any sense at all. We can't ever have too much feature bloat or complexity; or can we? -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
[Bug 1164450] perl-Time-Duration-1.10 introduces broken deps
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1164450 Jitka Plesnikova jples...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Fixed In Version||perl-Time-Duration-1.10-2.f ||c22 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE Last Closed||2014-11-18 03:02:12 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=OEqx5Gjt1Na=cc_unsubscribe -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 1159515] perl-Net-POP3S-0.05 is available
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[Bug 1159515] perl-Net-POP3S-0.05 is available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1159515 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|perl-Net-POP3S-0.05-1.el7 |perl-Net-POP3S-0.05-1.el6 --- Comment #9 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-Net-POP3S-0.05-1.el6 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 6 stable repository. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=09hw7uoGmea=cc_unsubscribe -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
Orphaned Packages in epel6 (2014-11-17)
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