[Bug 1758695] Plans for EPEL8

2019-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1758695

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA



--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System  ---
perl-Time-ParseDate-2015.103-13.el8 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8
testing repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this
bug report.
See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for
instructions on how to install test updates.
You can provide feedback for this update here:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-43c92c5ec0

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
___
perl-devel mailing list -- perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to perl-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[Bug 1758050] Upgrade perl-Test-TCP to 2.21

2019-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1758050

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA



--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System  ---
perl-Test-TCP-2.21-1.el8 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 testing
repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
report.
See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for
instructions on how to install test updates.
You can provide feedback for this update here:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-65894aa457

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
___
perl-devel mailing list -- perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to perl-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[Bug 1758574] perl-ExtUtils-CChecker for EL8

2019-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1758574

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA



--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System  ---
perl-ExtUtils-CChecker-0.10-13.el8 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 8 testing
repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
report.
See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for
instructions on how to install test updates.
You can provide feedback for this update here:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-7111331884

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
___
perl-devel mailing list -- perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to perl-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[389-devel] 389 DS nightly 2019-10-06 - 94% PASS

2019-10-05 Thread vashirov
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/389ds/ci/nightly/2019/10/06/report-389-ds-base-1.4.2.2-20191005gite049236.fc30.x86_64.html
___
389-devel mailing list -- 389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to 389-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Failing f31 spins/labs/images

2019-10-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Hey everyone, it's time for another round of 'please fix your failing compose 
images'.

This time it's important to land fixes before tuesday, as thats when
final freeze for f31 starts. It may be possible to fix things after
that, but it will require freeze breaks and overhead. Do it now and you
will save everyone time later. ;) 


Python-Classroom: 

``
[pungi.global.log](https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/branched/Fedora-31-20191005.n.0/compose/../logs/global/pungi.global.log)

- [38066743](https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=38066743)
```
[LIVE_IMAGES ] [ERROR   ] [FAIL] Live (variant Labs, arch armhfp, 
subvariant Python_Classroom) failed, but going on anyway.
[LIVE_IMAGES ] [ERROR   ] LiveImage task failed: 38066743. See 
/mnt/koji/compose/branched/Fedora-31-20191005.n.0/logs/armhfp/liveimage-Fedora-Python-Classroom-armhfp-31-20191005.n.0.armhfp.log
 for more details.
```

Tons of broken deps. Might be related to
58502625d2f2c313390cad354a096ce5b625f049 where python38 and python36
were excluded? Not sure. 

Design-suite: 

- [38066749](https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=38066749)
```
[LIVE_MEDIA  ] [ERROR   ] [FAIL] Live media (variant Labs, arch *, 
subvariant Design_suite) failed, but going on anyway.
[LIVE_MEDIA  ] [ERROR   ] Live media task failed: 38066749. See 
/mnt/koji/compose/branched/Fedora-31-20191005.n.0/logs/x86_64/livemedia-Labs-Design_suite.x86_64.log
 for more details.
```

Sparkleshare broken: 

DEBUG util.py:593:  2019-10-05 10:03:12,285: - nothing provides 
mono(notify-sharp) = 3.0.0.0 needed by sparkleshare-3.28-1.fc31.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:593:  2019-10-05 10:03:12,286: - nothing provides 
mono(webkit2-sharp) = 2.10.9.0 needed by sparkleshare-3.28-1.fc31.x86_64.

Needs to be fixed or dropped.

Scientific_KDE: 

- [38066752](https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=38066752)
```
[LIVE_MEDIA  ] [ERROR   ] [FAIL] Live media (variant Labs, arch *, 
subvariant Scientific_KDE) failed, but going on anyway.
[LIVE_MEDIA  ] [ERROR   ] Live media task failed: 38066752. See 
/mnt/koji/compose/branched/Fedora-31-20191005.n.0/logs/x86_64/livemedia-Labs-Scientific_KDE.x86_64.log
 for more details.
```

Bunch of broken deps. May be related to the eclipse modular issues. 

Games:

- [38066755](https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=38066755)
```
[LIVE_MEDIA  ] [ERROR   ] [FAIL] Live media (variant Labs, arch *, 
subvariant Games) failed, but going on anyway.
[LIVE_MEDIA  ] [ERROR   ] Live media task failed: 38066755. See 
/mnt/koji/compose/branched/Fedora-31-20191005.n.0/logs/x86_64/livemedia-Labs-Games.x86_64.log
 for more details.
```

bunch of missing packages. Need to be dropped? Should be a easy PR for
someone. :) 
DEBUG util.py:593:  2019-10-05 10:05:47,724: missing packages: btanks, 
childsplay, escape, gcompris, lmarbles, londonlaw.

Jame_KDE:

- [38066762](https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=38066762)
```
[LIVE_MEDIA  ] [ERROR   ] [FAIL] Live media (variant Labs, arch *, 
subvariant Jam_KDE) failed, but going on anyway.
[LIVE_MEDIA  ] [ERROR   ] Live media task failed: 38066762. See 
/mnt/koji/compose/branched/Fedora-31-20191005.n.0/logs/x86_64/livemedia-Labs-Jam_KDE.x86_64.log
 for more details.
```

Missing packages: 
DEBUG util.py:593:  2019-10-05 10:14:25,511: missing packages: aj-snapshot, 
jack-rack, lv2-avw-plugins, lv2-fomp-plugins, lv2-triceratops, non-daw, 
non-mixer, non-sequencer, non-session-manager, seq24.
Again, should be a easy fix.

Container_Base:

- [38066754](https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=38066754)
```
[ERROR   ] [FAIL] Image build (variant Container, arch armhfp, subvariant 
Container_Base) failed, but going on anyway.
[IMAGE_BUILD ] [INFO] [DONE ] Creating image (formats: docker, arches: 
aarch64-armhfp-ppc64le-s390x-x86_64, variant: Container, subvariant: 
Container_Base) (task id: 38066754)

This is the armv7 container base. We really need to figure out why it's
failing. I'm likely to debug this next week as I am trying to build out
armv7 vm's on our new aarch64 hardware (the setup of which is very
similar to this job). 

Container_minimal_base:

```

- [38066758](https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=38066758)
```
[ERROR   ] [FAIL] Image build (variant Container, arch armhfp, subvariant 
Container_Minimal_Base) failed, but going on anyway.
[IMAGE_BUILD ] [INFO] [DONE ] Creating image (formats: docker, arches: 
aarch64-armhfp-ppc64le-s390x-x86_64, variant: Container, subvariant: 
Container_Minimal_Base) (task id: 38066758)
```

Same thing as above.

Scientific: (vagrant)

- [38066764](https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=38066764)
```
[IMAGE_BUILD ] [ERROR   ] [FAIL] Image build (variant Labs, arch *, 
subvariant Scientific) failed, but going on anyway.
[IMAGE_BUILD ] [ERROR   ] ImageBuild task failed: 38066764. See 
/mnt/koji/compose/branched/Fedora-31-20191005.n.0/logs

Re: New updates straight to obsolete after Epoch bump?!?

2019-10-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 01:35:03PM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 1:17 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 06:32:13PM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > > Anyone have any ideas? I tried re-submitting them but they were obsoleted
> > > by bodhi again.
> >
> > It looks like the newer pyside is now in
> > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-2a4f82aa58
> > perhaps try and get the author of that update to edit it and remove the
> > new one and add the one you want?
> >
> 
> Nothing needs Pyside2 yet, I wonder if I should just let that one go to
> stable and then try to push mine again?

I suppose thats an option... might cause some churn if people install it
and then have to downgrade, but if nothing depends on it... 

kevin



signature.asc
Description: PGP signature
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Vim :Gbrowse support for pagure

2019-10-05 Thread Jakub Kadlcik
Hello,

I don't know how many of you are Vim users and what fraction of those
use plugins. Anyway, there is a great, well-known plugin called
vim-fugitive (by notorious Tim Pope), that provides a lot of cool
features. My favorite one is probably `:Gbrowse` command, which opens
the current file, line or visual selection in your web browser.

Up until now, there was support for GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket, and
Gitee. The _problem_ is, that a lot of us moved to Pagure ...

... so I wrote a plugin enhancing the :Gbrowse functionality with
Pagure support. Give it a try. If you find it (not) helpful, let me
know!

Code: https://github.com/FrostyX/vim-fugitive-pagure
Blog post: http://frostyx.cz/posts/vim-gbrowse-support-for-pagure


Jakub
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[EPEL-devel] Re: epel8-playground and centos-stream?

2019-10-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 11:58:31AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> So, question: when say RHEL8.1beta comes out. Is the Centos 8 stream
> updating that? (ie, has all beta changes and continues from there?).
> I think we need to be very careful with beta's. If we can get security
> updates via centos 8 stream then great, but if not, that makes a known
> pool of insecure software. :( 

As I understand it, CentOS Stream will get security updates (because no one
wants a big pool of insecure software, and it's not good for users), but
that the significant, expensive work that the Red Hat security team and Red
Hat developers do to develop fixes should be available to paying customers
first. That seems reasonable to me. Also, of course, many such fixes have
embargo dates and _can't_ be made public early. The mechanisms for doing
this aren't actually built yet.

-- 
Matthew Miller

Fedora Project Leader
___
epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[Bug 1758050] Upgrade perl-Test-TCP to 2.21

2019-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1758050

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |MODIFIED



--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2019-65894aa457 has been submitted as an update to Fedora EPEL 8.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-65894aa457

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
___
perl-devel mailing list -- perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to perl-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[EPEL-devel] Re: epel8-playground and centos-stream?

2019-10-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 11:40:19AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 6:13 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 5:54 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> > >
> > > After the announcement today of centos-stream, I wonder if it would make
> > > sense to move epel8-playground to build against that instead of the
> > > latest rhel8 release?
> > >
> > > It would make playground less usefull for testing new radical changes
> > > against the current stable point release, but on the other hand, the
> > > centos stream will become the next stable point release, so it would
> > > allow people to test against that and get changes ready that they could
> > > then push in after the next stable point release landed?
> > >
> > > What do folks think? Bad idea, good idea?
> 
> I think that makes good sense; it will provide a guarantee of early
> notice when an upcoming RHEL release might introduce a problematic
> change (intentionally or otherwise) and provides Red Hat with feedback
> and an opportunity to fix it before RHEL releases. It will also make
> our minor release merge windows easier, since we should not get any
> major surprises hitting only at Beta or GA.

As mentioned downstream, if we want to know if epel builds ok/breaks by
changes in the stream we might instead setup a koschei instance pointing
to centos stream? Since as Tony indicated we don't mass rebuild or know
when something would break there. 

> 
> If we decide *not* to do this, I think we need to at least have a
> policy of updating the buildroot for EPEL8-playground to include the
> RHEL minor release beta tree as a lesser version of the same process
> as above.

So, question: when say RHEL8.1beta comes out. Is the Centos 8 stream
updating that? (ie, has all beta changes and continues from there?).
I think we need to be very careful with beta's. If we can get security
updates via centos 8 stream then great, but if not, that makes a known
pool of insecure software. :( 

kevin


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature
___
epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[Bug 1758695] Plans for EPEL8

2019-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1758695

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |MODIFIED



--- Comment #1 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2019-43c92c5ec0 has been submitted as an update to Fedora EPEL 8.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-43c92c5ec0

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
___
perl-devel mailing list -- perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to perl-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Re: New updates straight to obsolete after Epoch bump?!?

2019-10-05 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 1:17 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 06:32:13PM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > Anyone have any ideas? I tried re-submitting them but they were obsoleted
> > by bodhi again.
>
> It looks like the newer pyside is now in
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-2a4f82aa58
> perhaps try and get the author of that update to edit it and remove the
> new one and add the one you want?
>

Nothing needs Pyside2 yet, I wonder if I should just let that one go to
stable and then try to push mine again?

Thanks,
Richard
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 02:35:59AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Vít Ondruch wrote:
> > It depends how you maintain your packages. My guess is (and I am sorry
> > if I am mistaken) that you don't follow the
> > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Philosophy
> > 
> > If you followed this policy, then you would touch the stable branches
> > just rarely and therefore keeping them fast forwardable would be just
> > waste of time.
> 
> It depends on what, how, and when upstream releases.
> 
> If we have different upstream releases in different Fedora releases, then of 
> course those releases should have different specfiles. But if we are 
> shipping the same upstream release, I don't see why I should clone the 
> specfile n times.

In order to reduce complexity and allow for easier automated changes?

You could make a spec file for any package that "works" on every
version/release of every rpm based distro. It would be full of if this
then that and duplicated sections with subtle differences, it could even
do all versions. 

Right now what we have is maintainer(s) preference on how complex they
want their spec files to get before they just seperate our another copy
for the complex case. I think thats bad for a number of reasons...

...snip section about why you would want to ship the same upstream
release in multiple fedora releases...

yes, thats all fine, but in a lot of cases you run into issues doing
this, which means you have to drive up the complexity of your one spec
file or just ship different ones per fedora release. I think this
increasing complexity is bad for the project, and often bad for
maintainers as well. 

On the one hand you only have to edit one spec file, but you have to
figure out the logic and have no way to know if it's right without
rebuilding it in all the places you want to use it and carefully
checking each build. 

On the other you have to edit more spec files and you have to swap in
context as to why say fedora 29 is doing X and master is doing Y, but
it's a lot more clear what it's doing and why. 

kevin


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Re: New updates straight to obsolete after Epoch bump?!?

2019-10-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 06:32:13PM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> Anyone have any ideas? I tried re-submitting them but they were obsoleted
> by bodhi again.

It looks like the newer pyside is now in
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-2a4f82aa58
perhaps try and get the author of that update to edit it and remove the
new one and add the one you want?

kevin


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Fedora rawhide compose report: 20191005.n.0 changes

2019-10-05 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20191004.n.1
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20191005.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added images:1
Dropped images:  2
Added packages:  1
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages:   99
Downgraded packages: 0

Size of added packages:  31.64 KiB
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of upgraded packages:   2.54 GiB
Size of downgraded packages: 0 B

Size change of upgraded packages:   -60.68 MiB
Size change of downgraded packages: 0 B

= ADDED IMAGES =
Image: Server raw-xz armhfp
Path: Server/armhfp/images/Fedora-Server-armhfp-Rawhide-20191005.n.0-sda.raw.xz

= DROPPED IMAGES =
Image: Mate raw-xz armhfp
Path: Spins/armhfp/images/Fedora-Mate-armhfp-Rawhide-20191004.n.1-sda.raw.xz
Image: KDE raw-xz armhfp
Path: Spins/armhfp/images/Fedora-KDE-armhfp-Rawhide-20191004.n.1-sda.raw.xz

= ADDED PACKAGES =
Package: mdevctl-0.50-1.fc32
Summary: Mediated device management and persistence utility
RPMs:mdevctl
Size:31.64 KiB


= DROPPED PACKAGES =

= UPGRADED PACKAGES =
Package:  FlightGear-2019.1.1-3.fc32
Old package:  FlightGear-2019.1.1-2.fc32
Summary:  The FlightGear Flight Simulator
RPMs: FlightGear
Size: 33.87 MiB
Size change:  -1.57 KiB
Changelog:
  * Tue Oct 01 2019 Gwyn Ciesla  - 2019.1.1-3
  - Rebuilt for new freeglut


Package:  FlightGear-Atlas-0.5.0-0.53.cvs20141002.fc32
Old package:  FlightGear-Atlas-0.5.0-0.52.cvs20141002.fc31
Summary:  Flightgear map tools
RPMs: FlightGear-Atlas
Size: 3.62 MiB
Size change:  -3.12 KiB
Changelog:
  * Mon Sep 23 2019 Gwyn Ciesla  - 0.5.0-0.53.cvs20141002
  - Rebuilt for new freeglut


Package:  Io-language-2015-0.e64ff9.fc32.19
Old package:  Io-language-2015-0.e64ff9.fc32.18
Summary:  Io is a small, prototype-based programming language
RPMs: Io-language Io-language-devel Io-language-extras 
Io-language-graphics-and-sound Io-language-mysql Io-language-postgresql
Size: 6.34 MiB
Size change:  -4.05 KiB
Changelog:
  * Tue Sep 17 2019 Gwyn Ciesla  - 2015-0.e64ff9.19
  - Rebuilt for new freeglut


Package:  OpenMesh-6.3-7.fc32
Old package:  OpenMesh-6.3-6.fc31
Summary:  A generic and efficient polygon mesh data structure
RPMs: OpenMesh OpenMesh-devel OpenMesh-doc OpenMesh-tools
Size: 21.01 MiB
Size change:  26.01 KiB
Changelog:
  * Tue Sep 17 2019 Gwyn Ciesla  - 6.3-7
  - Rebuilt for new freeglut


Package:  OpenSceneGraph-3.4.1-12.fc32
Old package:  OpenSceneGraph-3.4.1-11.fc31
Summary:  High performance real-time graphics toolkit
RPMs: OpenSceneGraph OpenSceneGraph-Collada OpenSceneGraph-OpenEXR 
OpenSceneGraph-devel OpenSceneGraph-examples OpenSceneGraph-examples-SDL 
OpenSceneGraph-examples-fltk OpenSceneGraph-examples-gtk 
OpenSceneGraph-examples-qt OpenSceneGraph-gdal OpenSceneGraph-gstreamer 
OpenSceneGraph-libs OpenSceneGraph-qt OpenSceneGraph-qt-devel OpenThreads 
OpenThreads-devel
Size: 65.92 MiB
Size change:  119.57 KiB
Changelog:
  * Tue Sep 17 2019 Gwyn Ciesla  - 3.4.1-12
  - Rebuilt for new freeglut


Package:  anaconda-32.7-1.fc32
Old package:  anaconda-32.6-1.fc32
Summary:  Graphical system installer
RPMs: anaconda anaconda-core anaconda-dracut anaconda-gui 
anaconda-install-env-deps anaconda-live anaconda-tui anaconda-widgets 
anaconda-widgets-devel
Size: 18.52 MiB
Size change:  23.88 KiB
Changelog:
  * Fri Oct 04 2019 Martin Kolman  - 32.7-1
  - network: split configure hostname task out of network installation task
(#1757960) (rvykydal)
  - Switch to pypi pylint from RPM (jkonecny)
  - Allow to handle the return value of subprocess.run (vponcova)
  - Remove the unexpected keyword argument 'env' (vponcova)
  - Remove the assignment of the same variable to itself (vponcova)
  - Remove unused false positives (vponcova)
  - Improve updates repo configuration in GUI (#1670471) (mkolman)
  - Don't touch storage until it is ready (vponcova)
  - Run the manual partitioning task for the given requests (vponcova)
  - Set the locale for unit tests (vponcova)
  - Deprecate the current kickstart support for addons (vponcova)
  - Add kickstart support for the Baz module (vponcova)
  - Support the %addon sections in the kickstart specification (vponcova)
  - Handle the bootloader reset in the partitioning task (vponcova)
  - Fix the DBus patching functions (vponcova)
  - Patch DBus proxies in GUI and TUI simple import tests (vponcova)
  - Add DBus method for validation of selected disks (vponcova)
  - Enable faulthandler in DBus modules (vponcova)
  - Reset the storage and the playground of partitioning modules (vponcova)
  - Add support for getting an object path of a DBus proxy (vponcova)
  - Remove pointless '../../' to clean up NFS mounts (riehecky)


Package:  ark-19.08.1-1.fc32
Old package:  ark-19.04.3-2.fc31
Summary:  Archive manager
RPMs: ark ark-libs
Size: 7.43 MiB
Size change:  -3.55 KiB
Changelog:
  * Fri Oct 04

Fedora-Rawhide-20191005.n.0 compose check report

2019-10-05 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check!
2 of 45 required tests failed, 6 results missing
openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** 
below
Unsatisfied gating requirements that could not be mapped to openQA tests:
FAILED: compose.cloud.all
MISSING: fedora.Workstation-boot-iso.x86_64.64bit - compose.install_default
MISSING: fedora.Workstation-boot-iso.x86_64.uefi - compose.install_default

Failed openQA tests: 8/153 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20191004.n.1):

ID: 463695  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso modularity_tests
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463695
ID: 463708  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463708
ID: 463715  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default_upload **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463715
ID: 463731  Test: arm Minimal-raw_xz-raw.xz 
install_arm_image_deployment_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463731
ID: 463736  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso desktop_browser
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463736
ID: 463742  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso release_identification
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463742
ID: 463797  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463797
ID: 463798  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_realmd_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463798
ID: 463812  Test: x86_64 universal install_asian_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463812

Soft failed openQA tests: 2/153 (x86_64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

New soft failures (same test not soft failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20191004.n.1):

ID: 463800  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_kde_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463800
ID: 463804  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_kde_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463804

Passed openQA tests: 131/153 (x86_64)

New passes (same test not passed in Fedora-Rawhide-20191004.n.1):

ID: 463663  Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463663
ID: 463664  Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463664
ID: 463665  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463665
ID: 463666  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso release_identification
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463666
ID: 463667  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463667
ID: 463668  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso base_selinux
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463668
ID: 463669  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso base_services_start
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463669
ID: 463670  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso base_service_manipulation
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463670
ID: 463671  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso base_update_cli
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463671
ID: 463672  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso base_system_logging
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463672
ID: 463673  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso support_server
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463673
ID: 463674  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso mediakit_fileconflicts
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463674
ID: 463675  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso mediakit_repoclosure
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463675
ID: 463676  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_repository_nfs_variation
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463676
ID: 463677  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_repository_nfs_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463677
ID: 463678  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_repository_nfsiso_variation
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463678
ID: 463679  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_repository_hd_variation
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463679
ID: 463680  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463680
ID: 463681  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_realmd_join_kickstart
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463681
ID: 463682  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_cockpit_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463682
ID: 463683  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_cockpit_basic
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463683
ID: 463684  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_cockpit_updates
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463684
ID: 463685  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_cockpit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463685
ID: 463686  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_sssd
URL: 

[EPEL-devel] Re: FreeRDP version updates.

2019-10-05 Thread Darren Wise
Sounds like an amazing solution to me, I'll follow up on the link you've sent 
me along with the kodi link Stephen J Smoogen kindly offered me in order to 
reach a viable future solution.

Thanks very much for getting back to me so soon and at the weekend on this 
matter.

During the process I'm going to attempt to downgrade the FreeRDP-2.? version 
that's been installed to FreeRDP-version 1.? So that I may carry on with the 
APACHE guacamole developing I've been committed to for the last while, while 
they themselves also work towards supporting FreeRDP-2.x.x. I think it's just 
because they dont have developers around in the community whom have enough 
spare time to commit towards this support rollout.

Kind regards,
Darren Wise

On 5 October 2019 16:27:28 BST, Matthew Miller  wrote:
>On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 11:22:59AM +0100, Darren Wise wrote:
>> I also noticed that multiple versions are not maintained, could I
>please
>> be pointed to somewhere I could get a complete mirror of the EPEL
>> repository and I'd be happy to maintain myself online? -Maybe I could
>> start an repository online funded by myself which maintains multiple
>> versions?
>
>So, we're not quite ready for this yet in EPEL, but allowing multiple
>versions of packages to be maintained within the same, official
>repository
>is what the Modularity feature in Fedora and now RHEL 8 is for. Would
>you be
>interested in maintaining the versions you need as part of that?
>
>In the meantime, let me direct you to Copr, our system for building and
>offering package repositories with a very low barrier to entry. Check
>it out
>at https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/. This would be a great place to
>start,
>and then once we have modular EPEL up and running you could migrate
>packages
>to that.
>
>-- 
>Matthew Miller
>
>Fedora Project Leader
>___
>epel-devel mailing list -- epel-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>To unsubscribe send an email to
>epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>Fedora Code of Conduct:
>https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
>List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
>List Archives:
>https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org
___
epel-devel mailing list -- epel-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org


[EPEL-devel] Re: FreeRDP version updates.

2019-10-05 Thread Darren Wise
Heya,

Thanks very much for getting back to me with my query, I've not dealt much with 
package management in this manner prior, however it's because I've never ran in 
to an issue like this myself in the past either just being a user of CentOS and 
updating.

So I do apologise for this, but everything in the past has worked flawlessly 
and I've never needed to bother, if you understand me correctly.. "Dont fix it, 
if it ain't broken" metaphorically speaking..

Did you have packages which were updated and you were not aware it would happen?
-Yes kind of, I knew they would be updated, but I did not realise they would 
cause so much further issues.
Did you have packages which were not updated but you need them to be?
-No.
Did you have packages which installed which are broken?
-No

-However this issue is quite a spread one, APACHE Guacamole does require the 
freeRDP-1x versions in order to enable the utilisation of RDP connections, so 
APACHE guacamole needs an update too because FreeRDP version 2x has had such a 
change around they are still catching up developing ways and means of utilizing 
version 2x of FreeRDP. 

For this reason, I never even wanted to update to CentOS8 yet, but over the 
last month after doing an recompile and test VM install of Apache guacamole and 
then 'yum update' that rather then the FreeRDP 1x versions being used 2x has 
been placed within the packages which leaves me without the use of RDP. VNC, 
SSH connections are fine within APACHE guacamole. 

I traced it back to noticing that version 2 is now being used, so resorted to 
using my initial .iso as my yum package repository but am being left without 
freerdp-plugins-1.0.2. Because it's not listed within the install .iso repo 
(only freerdp, -devel, -libs)
These are the updated versions being used after an yim update is initiated, 
which I assume would happen but was not prepared for the following issues 
rising from, doing said update.
freerdp-2.0.0-1.rc4.el7.x86_64.rpm2019-08-22 21:2497K 
freerdp-devel-2.0.0-1.rc4.el7.i686.rpm2019-08-22 21:47125K
freerdp-devel-2.0.0-1.rc4.el7.x86_64.rpm2019-08-22 21:24125K 
freerdp-libs-2.0.0-1.rc4.el7.i686.rpm2019-08-22 21:47735K 
freerdp-libs-2.0.0-1.rc4.el7.x86_64.rpm

Would it be feasible to place within the EPEL7 repository the:
FreeRDP-1.0.2.rc4.el7.i686.rpm
FreeRDP-1.0.2.rc4.el7.x86_64.rpm, 
FreeRDP-devel-1.0.2.rc4.el7.i686.rpm
FreeRDP-devel-1.0.2.rc4.el7.x86_64.rpm
FreeRDP-libs-1.0.2.rc4.el7.i686.rpm
FreeRDP-libs-1.0.2.rc4.el7.x86_64.rpm
FreeRDP-plugins-1.0.2.rc4.el7.i686.rpm
FreeRDP-plugins-1.0.2.rc4.el7.x86_64.rpm

And then rename them too:
FreeRDP1-1.0.2.rc4.el7.i686.rpm
FreeRDP1-1.0.2.rc4.el7.x86_64.rpm, 
FreeRDP1-devel-1.0.2.rc4.el7.i686.rpm
FreeRDP1-devel-1.0.2.rc4.el7.x86_64.rpm
FreeRDP1-libs-1.0.2.rc4.el7.i686.rpm
FreeRDP1-libs-1.0.2.rc4.el7.x86_64.rpm
FreeRDP1-plugins-1.0.2.rc4.el7.x86_64.rpm
FreeRDP1-plugins-1.0.2.rc4.el7.x86_64.rpm

Which hopefully will allow future choice and further usability, afterall EPEL 
stands for Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux, I'd be happy to maintain them 
to the best if my ability in order to contribute towards the community and I'm 
sure it would assist many other facing my current issue which they have yet to 
run in to possibly.

I've also noticed that the FreeRDP packages themselves are not directly 
installed by the EPEL, infact they reside on the .iso issued by the CentOS 
commumity and I should have spoken to them first rather then EPEL community 
directly, it was an base assumption they came from you guys after my initial 
yum update from a bare basic minimal install after inserting EPEL into my repo 
list.

-Can the FreeRDP version 1x rpm's listed above be placed within the EPEL repo 
and rather then just be called FreeRDP > FreeRDP1- to represent an older 
version that user may call upon if needed. I'm just trying now to meet a global 
solution that's viable for people to utilise without forking, or creating 
further issues.

Kind regards,
Darren Wise

On 5 October 2019 16:11:28 BST, Stephen John Smoogen  wrote:
>On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 06:23, Darren Wise  wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> Whom could I speak to about an EPEL package version update regarding
>FreeRDP (freerdp-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64, freerdp-libs-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64,
>freerdp-devel-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64, freerdp-plugins-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64)
>verses the FreeRDP version 2.0 variants.
>>
>> The reason I asking is because I was relying on this version
>currently within CentOS7 EPEL repository in order to develop for APACHE
>Guacamole, however FreeRDP2.0 is not noticed when installed, the EPEL
>update occurred (must have been) around the middle of September? 13th
>and after?
>>
>> I also noticed that multiple versions are not maintained, could I
>please be pointed to somewhere I could get a complete mirror of the
>EPEL repository and I'd be happy to maintain myself online?
>> -Maybe I could start an repository online funded by myself which
>maintains multiple versions?
>>
>
>Sorry 

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-05 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:18 PM Ben Rosser  wrote:

>
> 1. Creating new packages has become (more of) a pain since the
> retirement of pkgdb2. I know I keep complaining about needing to
> manually fetch Pagure API keys, but it is actually extremely annoying
> when I go to request a repo and realize I need to first request a new
> API key before doing anything else. The problem isn't the workflow,
> per se, but the infrastructure: reviews could really use a better
> platform than bugzilla. If reviews were more integrated into the
> tooling, automatic checks like fedora-review could maybe be ran
> automatically. Maybe approving a new package could even automatically
> create the repository, without the requestor having to do anything!
>

This is a big one for me and I think part of the problem is we have both
src.fedoraproject.org (a pagure instance) and pagure.io, which also is
specifically for fedora but not in the fedoraproject.org domain. Then I get
emails telling me my API key is about to expire and there's no links i the
notification and I'm not entirely sure which pagure instance it is.

THEN once I create new keys, because it's often enough to be annoying but
not often enough to remember, I don't know which file to put it in...

.config/fedrepo_req/config.ini ?
or
.config/rpkg/fedpkg.conf ?

And google was almost useless this last time, "man fedpkg" was no help
either I had to run:

$ fedpkg request-repo --help

To get the answer...

Thanks,
Richard
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Your example is not valid. This is not a mass change, this was an
> individual change presented to the package maintainers via a PR that was
> not merged by me:
> 
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/qt5-qtwebengine/pull-request/3
> 
> Had there been a "please, make it build on F29" comment, I would have
> adapted it.

Well, your pull request did not state anywhere that it introduces a 
construct that only works on F30 and newer, so I don't think it is fair to 
shift the blame to the person who approved it (Rex Dieter). Your description 
only stated "make it work both before and after python2 retirement", which 
sounds as if it were fully backwards compatible.

It should be up to the person making this type of changes to test it on all 
supported releases. Sure, this makes it harder to make packaging changes 
across many packages, but IMHO, that is actually a beneficial side effect. 
The goal should really be to not require this kind of changes at all, 
because it also means that third-party packages have to adjust to them. 
Instead, the packaging should remain backwards-compatible.

And in this case, I wonder whether the conditional is even needed or whether 
we could just use the F29 version everywhere. As long as python27 Provides: 
python2 (and it should!), I don't see why BuildRequires: python2 would not 
be good enough and a file BuildRequires is needed. And python2-rpm-macros 
are needed as BuildRequires because the specfile also uses %{__python2} in 
the snippets. (Previously, the package had BuildRequires: python2-devel, 
which drags in both python2 and python2-rpm-macros.) Something changed in 
F30 to make python2-rpm-macros dragged in by default, this was not the case 
in F29.

Kevin Kofler
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Re: Impact of dropping QEMU emulation on 32-bit hosts ? (~Fedora 33)

2019-10-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 20:10, Kevin Kofler  wrote:
>
> Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > What do you mean by breaking breaking because you use that term like a
> > sledge hammer for anything from a 'pixel off' bug to 'too old software
> > is in repos', 'too young software is in repos' , 'software is not in
> > repos' to 'can't boot'. After a while, I assumed the only way I can't
> > break a system is to never unbox it.. but I expect there is probably
> > some way that is also a broken system.
>
> In this context, it is fairly clear what I meant: any current version of
> Fedora (in around a year, this will mean any version still supported with
> security updates at that point) will not run on those systems at all. It
> will not even boot.
>

Actually it wasn't clear to me, so thank you for the clarification.
Does it mean by this definition that Fedora is currently broken for
ppc32, ia64, alpha and sparc because it no longer provides builds for
them? Are what you wanting is that Fedora is more like Debian where we
are building things for all platforms ever?

-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[EPEL-devel] Re: FreeRDP version updates.

2019-10-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 11:22:59AM +0100, Darren Wise wrote:
> I also noticed that multiple versions are not maintained, could I please
> be pointed to somewhere I could get a complete mirror of the EPEL
> repository and I'd be happy to maintain myself online? -Maybe I could
> start an repository online funded by myself which maintains multiple
> versions?

So, we're not quite ready for this yet in EPEL, but allowing multiple
versions of packages to be maintained within the same, official repository
is what the Modularity feature in Fedora and now RHEL 8 is for. Would you be
interested in maintaining the versions you need as part of that?

In the meantime, let me direct you to Copr, our system for building and
offering package repositories with a very low barrier to entry. Check it out
at https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/. This would be a great place to start,
and then once we have modular EPEL up and running you could migrate packages
to that.

-- 
Matthew Miller

Fedora Project Leader
___
epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[EPEL-devel] Re: FreeRDP version updates.

2019-10-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 06:23, Darren Wise  wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> Whom could I speak to about an EPEL package version update regarding FreeRDP 
> (freerdp-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64, freerdp-libs-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64, 
> freerdp-devel-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64, freerdp-plugins-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64) 
> verses the FreeRDP version 2.0 variants.
>
> The reason I asking is because I was relying on this version currently within 
> CentOS7 EPEL repository in order to develop for APACHE Guacamole, however 
> FreeRDP2.0 is not noticed when installed, the EPEL update occurred (must have 
> been) around the middle of September? 13th and after?
>
> I also noticed that multiple versions are not maintained, could I please be 
> pointed to somewhere I could get a complete mirror of the EPEL repository and 
> I'd be happy to maintain myself online?
> -Maybe I could start an repository online funded by myself which maintains 
> multiple versions?
>

Sorry I am not parsing what you have problems with. Did you have
packages which were updated and you were not aware it would happen?
Did you have packages which were not updated but you need them to be?
Did you have packages which installed which are broken? [It is ok if
the answer to all of those are 'yes, and this is what I meant..' ]

The complete mirror of the EPEL repository is whatever is in the
repository at any time. If you are needing older versions of packages,
you need to go spelunking through the koji.fedoraproject.org build
system to find older versions of the packages. I wish there was an
easier way to make this available.. but the tools are meant to do one
thing well (take a source code, build it and put it ftp.) versus
multiple things well.


> Chances are I'm posting in the wrong place, but for me, this is an EPEL 
> development I was not expecting heh.
>
> Kind regards,
> Darren Wise___
> epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Fedora Code of Conduct: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> List Archives: 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org



-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.
___
epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-05 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 05. 10. 19 2:16, Kevin Kofler wrote:

Miro Hrončok wrote:

It goes like this:

   - master and f31 are at the same commit "aa"
   - I push a change only possible in rawhide, commit "bb" to master
 (it includes release bump and changelog entry)
   - a commit relevant for both, "cc" is pushed to master
 (it includes release bump and changelog entry)
   - on f31, I run `git cherry-pick cc` => conflict

I don't worry about having "Fedora 31 mass rebuild" or "Rebuilt for python
3.8" changelong entries in Fedora 29 (it gives me a little flinch, but
nothing serious). i worry about the bb commit I cannot merge into f31
(e.g. if it implements some Fedora 32 change).

Then obviously, people start inventing %if spaghetti.

And %if is actually the correct fix for this issue.

See, e.g., the one I had to add to qt5-qtwebengine after you broke it for
F29 with your mass change:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/qt5-qtwebengine/c/05a52d121d49972989aea8127e22e25f0292333c?branch=master


Your example is not valid. This is not a mass change, this was an individual 
change presented to the package maintainers via a PR that was not merged by me:


https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/qt5-qtwebengine/pull-request/3

Had there been a "please, make it build on F29" comment, I would have adapted 
it.

--
Miro Hrončok
--
Phone: +420777974800
IRC: mhroncok
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Fedora-31-20191005.n.0 compose check report

2019-10-05 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Failed openQA tests: 6/153 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-31-20191004.n.0):

ID: 463524  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_repository_hd_variation
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463524
ID: 463563  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_no_user
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463563
ID: 463574  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463574

Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-31-20191004.n.0):

ID: 463540  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso modularity_tests
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463540
ID: 463553  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463553
ID: 463576  Test: arm Minimal-raw_xz-raw.xz 
install_arm_image_deployment_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463576
ID: 463587  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso release_identification
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463587

Soft failed openQA tests: 2/153 (x86_64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

New soft failures (same test not soft failed in Fedora-31-20191004.n.0):

ID: 463569  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463569

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-31-20191004.n.0):

ID: 463657  Test: x86_64 universal install_asian_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463657

Passed openQA tests: 145/153 (x86_64)

New passes (same test not passed in Fedora-31-20191004.n.0):

ID: 463581  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso desktop_browser
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463581
ID: 463656  Test: x86_64 universal install_arabic_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463656

Skipped non-gating openQA tests: 1 of 155

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Everything-boot-iso install_default: 
System load changed from 0.06 to 0.17
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463045#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463544#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Workstation-live-iso 
install_default_upload: 
Average CPU usage changed from 22.81428571 to 11.55714286
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463046#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463545#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Workstation-live-iso 
install_default@uefi: 
System load changed from 0.20 to 0.38
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463048#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463547#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default_upload: 
Used mem changed from 916 MiB to 733 MiB
1 packages(s) removed since previous compose: libieee1284
System load changed from 2.00 to 1.31
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463061#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463560#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi: 
Used mem changed from 726 MiB to 883 MiB
1 packages(s) removed since previous compose: libieee1284
System load changed from 0.32 to 0.51
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463063#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463562#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso 
install_default@uefi: 
Mount /run/user/1000 contents changed to 114.0824338% of previous size
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463079#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463578#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 universal install_package_set_kde: 
System load changed from 0.89 to 3.58
Average CPU usage changed from 28.79523810 to 85.3667
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463128#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/463627#downloads
-- 
Mail generated by check-compose:
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Fedora 31 compose report: 20191005.n.0 changes

2019-10-05 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-31-20191004.n.0
NEW: Fedora-31-20191005.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added images:0
Dropped images:  0
Added packages:  12
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages:   167
Downgraded packages: 1

Size of added packages:  13.45 MiB
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of upgraded packages:   5.19 GiB
Size of downgraded packages: 26.64 MiB

Size change of upgraded packages:   -186.41 MiB
Size change of downgraded packages: -45.27 KiB

= ADDED IMAGES =

= DROPPED IMAGES =

= ADDED PACKAGES =
Package: cascadia-code-fonts-1909.16-1.fc31
Summary: A monospaced font designed for programming and terminal emulation
RPMs:cascadia-code-fonts
Size:97.25 KiB

Package: doh-0.1-2.fc31
Summary: Application for DNS-over-HTTPS name resolves and lookups
RPMs:doh
Size:89.69 KiB

Package: gnome-passwordsafe-3.32.0-2.fc31
Summary: Password manager for GNOME
RPMs:gnome-passwordsafe
Size:391.84 KiB

Package: ladspa-swh-plugins-0.4.17-5.fc31
Summary: A set of audio plugins for LADSPA
RPMs:ladspa-swh-plugins
Size:2.36 MiB

Package: libbpf-1:0.0.3-1.fc31
Summary: Libbpf library
RPMs:libbpf libbpf-devel libbpf-static
Size:780.54 KiB

Package: perl-GStreamer-0.20-17.fc31
Summary: Perl bindings to version 0.10.x of the GStreamer framework
RPMs:perl-GStreamer
Size:1.29 MiB

Package: powdertoy-94.1-4.fc31
Summary: Physics sandbox game
RPMs:powdertoy
Size:5.83 MiB

Package: primecount-5.1-2.fc31
Summary: Fast prime counting function implementation
RPMs:primecount primecount-devel primecount-libs
Size:1.45 MiB

Package: python-argon2-cffi-19.1.0-1.fc31
Summary: The secure Argon2 password hashing algorithm
RPMs:python-argon2-cffi-doc python3-argon2-cffi
Size:983.50 KiB

Package: python-pykeepass-3.0.3-2.fc31
Summary: Python library to interact with keepass databases
RPMs:python3-pykeepass
Size:75.79 KiB

Package: python-webscrapbook-0.6.2-1.fc31
Summary: A backend toolkit for management of WebScrapBook collection
RPMs:python3-webscrapbook
Size:67.96 KiB

Package: rss2email-3.10-2.20190909git9c2d407.fc31
Summary: Deliver news from RSS feeds to your SMTP server as text or HTML mail
RPMs:rss2email
Size:84.90 KiB


= DROPPED PACKAGES =

= UPGRADED PACKAGES =
Package:  Lmod-8.1.17-3.fc31
Old package:  Lmod-8.1.3-2.fc31
Summary:  Environmental Modules System in Lua
RPMs: Lmod
Size: 1.02 MiB
Size change:  17.69 KiB
Changelog:
  * Tue Jul 30 2019 Orion Poplawski  - 8.1.10-1
  - Update to 8.1.10

  * Thu Aug 01 2019 Orion Poplawski  - 8.1.10-2
  - RHEL8 environment-modules uses alternatives

  * Sat Sep 21 2019 Zbigniew J??drzejewski-Szmek  - 8.1.10-3
  - Make sure /etc/profile.d/modules.sh has $MODULEPATH (#1461656)

  * Tue Sep 24 2019 Orion Poplawski  - 8.1.17-1
  - Update to 8.1.17

  * Wed Sep 25 2019 Orion Poplawski  - 8.1.17-2
  - Make 00-modulepath.sh return 0

  * Wed Sep 25 2019 Orion Poplawski  - 8.1.17-3
  - Make 00-modulepath.sh return 0, but not exit (bugz#1755666)


Package:  NetworkManager-1:1.20.4-1.fc31
Old package:  NetworkManager-1:1.20.2-3.fc31
Summary:  Network connection manager and user applications
RPMs: NetworkManager NetworkManager-adsl NetworkManager-bluetooth 
NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora NetworkManager-config-server 
NetworkManager-dispatcher-routing-rules NetworkManager-libnm 
NetworkManager-libnm-devel NetworkManager-ovs NetworkManager-ppp 
NetworkManager-team NetworkManager-tui NetworkManager-wifi NetworkManager-wwan
Size: 26.76 MiB
Size change:  -9.99 KiB
Changelog:
  * Mon Sep 30 2019 Thomas Haller  - 1:1.20.4-1
  - Update to 1.20.4 release
  - wifi: fix crash related to Wi-Fi P2P
  - initrd: handle rd.znet parameter for s390 (rh #1753975)
  - core: don't generate default-wired-connection if profile exists (rh 
#1727909)


Package:  R-microbenchmark-1.4.7-1.fc31
Old package:  R-microbenchmark-1.4.6-3.fc31
Summary:  Accurate Timing Functions
RPMs: R-microbenchmark
Size: 361.43 KiB
Size change:  9.66 KiB
Changelog:
  * Tue Sep 24 2019 Elliott Sales de Andrade  - 
1.4.7-1
  - Update to latest version


Package:  aespipe-2.4e-5.fc31
Old package:  aespipe-2.4e-4.fc31
Summary:  AES-based encryption tool for tar/cpio and loop-aes imagemore
RPMs: aespipe
Size: 255.33 KiB
Size change:  450 B
Changelog:
  * Sun Aug 18 2019 Jirka Hladky  - 2.4e-5
  - Rebuild for F31


Package:  analitza-19.08.0-2.fc31
Old package:  analitza-19.04.3-2.fc31
Summary:  Library of mathematical features
RPMs: analitza analitza-devel
Size: 3.76 MiB
Size change:  867 B
Changelog:
  * Mon Aug 19 2019 Rex Dieter  - 19.08.0-1
  - 19.08.0

  * Wed Sep 25 2019 Jan Grulich  - 19.08.0-2
  - rebuild (qt5)


Package:  appmenu-qt5-0.3.0+16.10.20160628.1-18.fc31
Old package:  appmenu-qt5-0.3.0+16.10.20160628.1-17.fc31
Summary:  Support for global DBus-exported

Re: what to do without fedocal [was Re: CPE Team Weekly Update: 2019-10-04]

2019-10-05 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
Let's start from the very beginning maybe. What are the use cases for
the Fedora Calendar?

* Group meetings

These events need shared ownership, we submit them once and keep
"forever". I think this is a good candidate for Git PR workflow used
by OpenStack.

* Test Days

Test Days are always associated with the Test Day wiki page. We should
just generate them automatically.

* Scheduled infra outages

Same here, infra outages should have a Taiga or Pagure issue
associated with them. We can fetch the list and update calendar
automatically.

* Release schedule

Afaik, it is also driven by wiki pages. If we agree on a format, we
can create a dedicated ical feed out of them.

* Personal Vacation

Not used currently. Maybe instead of asking people to submit their
entries we can setup some kind of aggregation of personal feeds, like
planet.fedoraproject.org, but for calendars?


I created a wiki page [1] to collect notes. Feel free to contribute.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bookwar/fedocal_notes

-- 
Aleksandra Fedorova
bookwar
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[Bug 1758758] mod_perl-2.0.11 is available

2019-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1758758



--- Comment #1 from Upstream Release Monitoring 
 ---
The following Sources of the specfile are not valid URLs so we cannot
automatically build the new version for you.  Please use URLs in your Source
declarations if possible.

- perl.conf
- perl.module.conf

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
___
perl-devel mailing list -- perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to perl-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[Bug 1758758] New: mod_perl-2.0.11 is available

2019-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1758758

Bug ID: 1758758
   Summary: mod_perl-2.0.11 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: mod_perl
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: ppi...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jkal...@redhat.com, jor...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, ppi...@redhat.com
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 2.0.11
Current version/release in rawhide: 2.0.10-17.fc31
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/mod_perl/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy


More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring


Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
upstream.


Based on the information from anitya:
https://release-monitoring.org/project/1998/

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
___
perl-devel mailing list -- perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to perl-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[Bug 1758586] perl-MLDBM for EL8

2019-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1758586

Paul Howarth  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED



--- Comment #2 from Paul Howarth  ---
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/17711
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/17712

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
___
perl-devel mailing list -- perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to perl-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Fabio Valentini wrote:
> Additionally, if-guarding every non-backwards compatible change will
> result in unmaintainable, brittle and broken .spec files pretty fast.
> Nobody should be expected to work through if-else-endif spaghetti (and I'm
> not even talking about automated tools here, which almost never will
> handle conditionals entirely correctly, and probably never can). And never
> mind that people don't actually remove conditionals for EOL fedora
> releases ...

I do, for most packages. At least when I need to work on the package anyway. 
I wouldn't submit a build just for that.

Though for some packages, I get told to leave ancient conditionals in for 
EPEL. (You can usually recognize them because the conditionals also include 
%{?rhel}.)

Kevin Kofler
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Fabio Valentini wrote:
> Another benefit of this would be that the "*-modular" repositories
> could be disabled by default, which would eliminate a whole lot of
> upgrade issues for "normal users".
> Only people who *actually want* alternate versions would enable
> modules (and *-modular repos?), and they can then expected to know how
> to handle upgrade issues.

+1. I don't understand why Modularity was not implemented that way to begin 
with.

> I think that letting people drop ownership and maintenance of "normal
> packages" and *only* doing modules instead was a mistake. But that's
> just my opinion ;)

+1, not just yours. ;-)

Kevin Kofler
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[Bug 1758596] perl-FreezeThaw for EL8

2019-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1758596

Paul Howarth  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
 CC||p...@city-fan.org
   Assignee|andr...@bawue.net   |p...@city-fan.org



--- Comment #1 from Paul Howarth  ---
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/17709
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/17710

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
___
perl-devel mailing list -- perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to perl-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Re: what to do without fedocal [was Re: CPE Team Weekly Update: 2019-10-04]

2019-10-05 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
Hi, Matthew,

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:47 PM Matthew Miller  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 05:58:19PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> >Fedocal:  If no maintainer is found by October 18th, it will be
> >decommissioned.
>
> This is pretty huge, since we use this to keep IRC meeting channels
> coordinated. We used to use this to track people's vacations and
> away-from-project time, but I don't think many people are reliably doing
> that anymore, so from my point of view it's the meetings that are the big
> thing. That is:
>
> 1. Looking to find the next meetings for a particular team
> 2. Finding an empty meeting spot for a new reoccuring or one-off meeting
> 3. The fancy channel bot stuff which knows about upcoming meetings.
>
> If no one steps up to take on maintaining this app, I'm going to set up a
> wiki or docs site page to cover #1 and #2. We'll lose #3, and probably some
> other stuff, but... I don't see a good immediate alternative.

I filed an issue [1] to take over the maintenance of the app. Btw, it
would be easier to find maintainers if expectations were set in
advance, so that they know what they are applying for.

But I'd like to keep this discussion going.

While I am stepping in to _maintain_ the app and infra for it, I don't
have plans to _develop_ it further in its current form.

Thus I think we should consider alternatives and how we can migrate
from a Fedora specific app, to some simple and easy to maintain
tooling.

To give an example: in OpenStack meetings are stored in a git repo
[2], then set of scripts renders jinja template to show them on web
and ical-feed, so you can import the entire set into the calendar of
your choice.
With additional JS magic [3] one can render a nice interactive
calendar on top of it.

[1] https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8274
[2] https://opendev.org/opendev/irc-meetings/
[3] https://fullcalendar.io/docs/events-array

-- 
Aleksandra Fedorova
bookwar
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-05 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:32 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> On 04. 10. 19 16:57, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > Right now, there are two conflicting requirements in Fedora Modularity
> > that we need to resolve.
> >
> > 1. Once a user has selected a stream, updates should follow that
> > stream and not introduce incompatiblities. Selected streams should not
> > be changed without direct action from the user.
> > 2. So far as possible, Modularity should be invisible to those who
> > don't specifically need it. This means being able to set default
> > streams so that `yum install package` works for module-provided
> > content.
> >
> > Where this becomes an issue is at system-upgrade time (moving from
> > Fedora 30->31 or continuously tracking Rawhide). Because of
> > requirement 1, we cannot automatically move users between streams, but
> > in the case of release upgrades we often want to move to a new default
> > for the distribution.
>
>
> Wouldn't it be easier if the "default stream" would just behave like a regular
> package?
>
> I can think of two solutions of that:
>
> 1. (drastic for modular maintainers)
>
> We keep miantaining the default versions of things as ursine packages. We only
> modularize alternate versions.
>
> Pros: Users who don't want alternate versions won't be affected by 
> imperfections
> of our modular design. No Ursa Major/Prime needed in the buildroot.
>
> Cons: Modular maintainers who do modules with just one stream because it is
> easier for them would need to rollback to what's easier for everybody else but
> them. Modular maintainers who do multiple modular streams would need to 
> maintain
> both the alternate streams and ursine packages.

I think this is the best way forward, and I don't think it's "drastic"
for maintainers. They *already* maintain a default branch, for which
similar Packaging / Update Guidelines apply than for non-modular
packages. They could even use a package.cfg file to automatically
build stuff for multiple fedora branches ...

In my opinion, this is also the most "fair" approach, because it
doesn't shift the maintenance burden from one packager to *everyone
else*.

It results in the least disruption for users who want default versions
of things.
It means no more disruptions for packagers who rely on the packages in
question - they can just target the default ("ursine") versions.

Another benefit of this would be that the "*-modular" repositories
could be disabled by default, which would eliminate a whole lot of
upgrade issues for "normal users".
Only people who *actually want* alternate versions would enable
modules (and *-modular repos?), and they can then expected to know how
to handle upgrade issues.

> 2. (potentially dangerous consequences?)
>
> We put the default modular stream into our regular repos, similarly to what we
> try to do in the buildroot. "dnf install Foo" would install the Foo package 
> and
> would not enbale any streams or modules. The modular maintainers would keep
> maintaining the modules as now, the infrastructure would compose the defaults
> into the regular repo (or an additional but default-enabled one).
>
> Pros: Maintainers would keep doing what they desire.
>
> Cons: We would need to make this technically possible and figure out all the
> corner cases (however AFAIK this needs to be done for the "modules in 
> buildroot"
> thing as well).

I see some issues with this approach. For example, the modularized
Java packages dropped a whole lot of "cruft", which now makes these
packages slightly incompatible with the non-modular packages - this
includes dropping Epoch from packages, dropping subpackages without
obsoleting them, etc. This is probably not a problem for module
streams, but it definitely *is* a problem if such modular packages
start to get treated like "normal packages".

> WDYT?

I think that letting people drop ownership and maintenance of "normal
packages" and *only* doing modules instead was a mistake. But that's
just my opinion ;)

Fabio

> --
> Miro Hrončok
> --
> Phone: +420777974800
> IRC: mhroncok
> ___
> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Fedora Code of Conduct: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> List Archives: 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[Bug 1758574] perl-ExtUtils-CChecker for EL8

2019-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1758574

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED



--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-EPEL-2019-7111331884 has been submitted as an update to Fedora EPEL 8.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-7111331884

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
___
perl-devel mailing list -- perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to perl-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


[EPEL-devel] FreeRDP version updates.

2019-10-05 Thread Darren Wise
Hey folks,

Whom could I speak to about an EPEL package version update regarding FreeRDP 
(freerdp-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64, freerdp-libs-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64, 
freerdp-devel-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64, freerdp-plugins-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64) verses 
the FreeRDP version 2.0 variants.

The reason I asking is because I was relying on this version currently within 
CentOS7 EPEL repository in order to develop for APACHE Guacamole, however 
FreeRDP2.0 is not noticed when installed, the EPEL update occurred (must have 
been) around the middle of September? 13th and after?

I also noticed that multiple versions are not maintained, could I please be 
pointed to somewhere I could get a complete mirror of the EPEL repository and 
I'd be happy to maintain myself online?
-Maybe I could start an repository online funded by myself which maintains 
multiple versions?

Chances are I'm posting in the wrong place, but for me, this is an EPEL 
development I was not expecting heh.

Kind regards,
Darren Wise___
epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Intent to retire libvtemm

2019-10-05 Thread Krzesimir Nowak
Hi,

I'm the "upstream maintainer" of libvtemm. In quotes, because last change I
have made to the project was 8 years ago. It depends on an orphaned package
vte (which is based on gtk2). It's also a leaf package. I don't think it
makes sense to even orphan it.

I intend to retire the package within the week. It is also first time I'll
do anything related to fedora packaging since years, so hopefully I won't
break anything.

Cheers,
Krzesimir
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org


Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-05 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 02:17 Kevin Kofler  wrote:

> Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > It goes like this:
> >
> >   - master and f31 are at the same commit "aa"
> >   - I push a change only possible in rawhide, commit "bb" to master
> > (it includes release bump and changelog entry)
> >   - a commit relevant for both, "cc" is pushed to master
> > (it includes release bump and changelog entry)
> >   - on f31, I run `git cherry-pick cc` => conflict
> >
> > I don't worry about having "Fedora 31 mass rebuild" or "Rebuilt for
> python
> > 3.8" changelong entries in Fedora 29 (it gives me a little flinch, but
> > nothing serious). i worry about the bb commit I cannot merge into f31
> > (e.g. if it implements some Fedora 32 change).
> >
> > Then obviously, people start inventing %if spaghetti.
>
> And %if is actually the correct fix for this issue.
>
> See, e.g., the one I had to add to qt5-qtwebengine after you broke it for
> F29 with your mass change:
>
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/qt5-qtwebengine/c/05a52d121d49972989aea8127e22e25f0292333c?branch=master
>
> IMHO, mass changes are only acceptable if the result builds on all
> supported
> Fedora releases. Breaking the build for F29 is only acceptable after it
> reaches EOL. So your mass change should have included this %if, or ideally
> an update pushed to F29 to make the conditional unnecessary.
>

That's your opinion. Some packagers (like me) actually maintain the
branches for each fedora release separately.

Doing mass changes that way would also place a pretty big burden upon
anyone who actually wants to work on fedora-wide improvements.

Additionally, if-guarding every non-backwards compatible change will result
in unmaintainable, brittle and broken .spec files pretty fast. Nobody
should be expected to work through if-else-endif spaghetti (and I'm not
even talking about automated tools here, which almost never will handle
conditionals entirely correctly, and probably never can). And never mind
that people don't actually remove conditionals for EOL fedora releases ...

Fabio


> Kevin Kofler
> ___
> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Fedora Code of Conduct:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> List Archives:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
>
___
devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org