Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-04-05 Thread Andre Robatino
Those figures are recommended minimums, not requirements. I have a single core 
F35 machine which works fine.
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Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: x86-64 micro-architecture update

2019-07-22 Thread Andre Robatino
> Fedora will use current CPUs more efficiently, increasing performance
> and reducing power consumption.

I hope the energy usage involved in having to buy new hardware (including 
manufacturing and shipping) is taken into account. This proposed change is 
incompatible with all 3 of my 64-bit machines (which are all refurbished, isn't 
that supposed to be good for the environment?), including one I bought just 
last year.
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Re: Btrfs as default filesystem for Fedora 23?

2015-06-23 Thread Andre Robatino
Neal Gompa ngompa13 at gmail.com writes:

 As I recall, Josef Bacik mentioned that he'd be pushing for Btrfs becoming
the default in Fedora 23. At this point, I'm personally convinced that it is
certainly ready and doable for F23.
 
 Perhaps other guys with more experience on this stuff could chime in with
feedback/information/etc, but it feels like we should start the process to
get everything ready for Btrfs being default in Fedora 23.

I asked about this recently on #fedora-devel (I was the one who asked
originally on this list) and was told there are no plans to make it the
default yet. It's amazing that it was originally planned to be the default
on F16 (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Btrfs ). But I don't want to see
data loss, and not knowing much about filesystems, am sticking to the default.



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dnf and kernel-devel

2015-05-23 Thread Andre Robatino
The problem of dnf not handling kernel-devel updates correctly (
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062997 against dnf and
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1079906 against kernel) is
apparently not being worked on anymore (queries in both bugs are going
unanswered again, though in 1079906 I provided requested debugdata). Since
dnf is now the default in F22, it really should be able to correctly update
all Fedora packages (and until it does, I'm continuing to use
yum-deprecated). Posting here in the hope of getting a response from either
kernel or dnf devs (it's still not clear which component is responsible).

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Re: [Bug 1201978] dracut assumes BIOS time is UTC closed without fixing again

2015-04-24 Thread Andre Robatino
Felix Miata mrmazda at earthlink.net writes:

  Just as a workaround, you CAN make a Windows box use UTC for the RTC...
 
 Multiboot is not a universe limited to Windows and Linux, and certainly not
 only the latest version of either. And, there's a whole LAN to consider, not
 one PC in isolation.

AFAIK, Windows is the only OS that has trouble using UTC for the RTC.

 When I acquire a new PC or motherboard, I set its clock to match the rest of
 the clocks in the building, neighborhood and city, so the sun is overhead
 somewhere around noon. That's how time is supposed to be. It's up to a PC to
 adjust to me and my environment, not vice versa, and when I boot a floppy I
 don't need to look at a watch, TV or wall clock to see what time it really is.

If you're using a laptop and travel between time zones, there is no
permanent local time. And even if you stay in one place, if your local time
is subject to Daylight Saving, the fact that it can go backwards when
changing from DT to ST causes problems for the OS. See
https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/mswish/ut-rtc.html . To avoid that, the time
used by the RTC should increase monotonically. Also, when people share
files, if their RTCs are in different time zones, it's impossible to know
exactly how to interpret a file's timestamps, since they depend on the
originating PC's time zone. The only way to avoid these problems is for
everyone to have their RTC set on the same monotonically increasing time,
and UTC is the natural choice.

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Re: [Bug 1201978] dracut assumes BIOS time is UTC closed without fixing again

2015-04-24 Thread Andre Robatino
Andre Robatino robatino at fedoraproject.org writes:

 it looks like OS/2 is capable of keeping its RTC in TAI (which AIUI is
 basically the same as UTC except that TAI doesn't have leap seconds, so TAI
 is real time, and UTC is TAI interspersed with leap seconds, so both
 increase monotonically, but UTC has jumps).

Actually, I have that backwards, after a little reading it appears that UTC
basically pauses during each leap second (but doesn't go backwards). TAI is
currently 35 seconds ahead of UTC and that increases by one each time
there's a leap second.

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Re: [Bug 1201978] dracut assumes BIOS time is UTC closed without fixing again

2015-04-24 Thread Andre Robatino
Felix Miata mrmazda at earthlink.net writes:

  AFAIK, Windows is the only OS that has trouble using UTC for the RTC.
 
 Have you ever used DOS or OS/2? I don't remember ever seeing options at
 installation time to choose anything other than local in either one. Same for
 W95, W98, WXP  W7. How they were set up initially is how they will remain.

The last four are Windows and DOS is the predecessor to Windows. I'm not
familiar with OS/2, but from
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/keeping-time-in-os2.html
it looks like OS/2 is capable of keeping its RTC in TAI (which AIUI is
basically the same as UTC except that TAI doesn't have leap seconds, so TAI
is real time, and UTC is TAI interspersed with leap seconds, so both
increase monotonically, but UTC has jumps).

  https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/mswish/ut-rtc.html . To avoid that, the time
  used by the RTC should increase monotonically. Also, when people share
  files, if their RTCs are in different time zones, it's impossible to know
  exactly how to interpret a file's timestamps, since they depend on the
  originating PC's time zone. The only way to avoid these problems is for
  everyone to have their RTC set on the same monotonically increasing time,
  and UTC is the natural choice.
 
 That UTC is the ideal choice for most use cases does not justify making it
 the only choice for all installations. This is still FOSS, home of choice and
 multiple ways to get things done. All your base are not belong to us yet.

UTC (or maybe TAI which some have argued is better) should be ideal for all
use cases, if Microsoft ever gets around to fixing Windows. All OSes I know
of, even Windows, know how to display local time to the user, who wouldn't
have to know or care what the RTC is set to, if Windows wasn't broken. You'd
tell it what your local time zone is, it gets either UTC or TAI via NTP,
sets the RTC to that, converts from that to your local time, and displays
that to you. And as long as you multiboot only between non-Microsoft OSes,
it works fine and in that case there is no advantage to having the RTC on
local time. The only reason Linux or any other OS needs to support having
the RTC on local time for now is as a workaround to coexist with broken Windows.

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Re: [Bug 1201978] dracut assumes BIOS time is UTC closed without fixing again

2015-04-24 Thread Andre Robatino
Felix Miata mrmazda at earthlink.net writes:

 Why does this bug exist only in Fedora, not in openSUSE or Mageia or *buntu?
 All my systems are multiboot, so only a select very few are on UTC. None that
 are on UTC have Fedora installed. This means every Fedora boot takes about
 twice as long or longer than anything else takes, waiting on all the
 unnecessary FS checks.

Just as a workaround, you CAN make a Windows box use UTC for the RTC,
there's a registry hack. Google RealTimeIsUniversal. I've done this on all
my Windows/Fedora machines. There are some minor issues in Windows (which
you'll read about in doing the above search), but if you only use Windows
rarely, it's nothing serious.

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Re: dnf and removing the running kernel

2015-04-12 Thread Andre Robatino
Bruno Wolff III bruno at wolff.to writes:

 It looks like I got burned by dnf removing the running kernel during update.
 Due to dracut / grubby issues only my oldest kernel was bootable. I didn't 
 notice that the old kernel had been removed until after the machine crashed 
 (I suspect because the kernel had removed, since that kernel had been 
 working just fine for months.)

Don't know if it's related, and it's not as serious, but
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062997 and
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1079906 concern dnf always
removing the oldest version of kernel-devel, even if it corresponds to the
running kernel.





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Re: bodhi / fedora-easy-karma dead

2015-04-06 Thread Andre Robatino
Kevin Fenzi kevin at scrye.com writes:

 On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 10:56:26 +0200
 Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net wrote:
 
  fedora-easy-karma don't work for days now 
  
  Waiting for Bodhi for a list of packages in updates-testing (F21)...
  Cannot query Bodhi: 
  ServerError(https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/list, -1, Request 
  timed out after 120.0 seconds)
 
 Odd. The service is fine, I can get to the web interface and submitted
 some updates just fine eariler.

This problem is always f-e-k specific, it never affects the web interface.
See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1144587 .



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dnf and handling kernel-devel updates correctly

2015-01-06 Thread Andre Robatino
In order for dnf to be able to handle kernel-devel updates correctly (having
multiple versions of kernel-devel installed, one for each installed kernel),
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1079906 (against the kernel)
must be fixed, but there is no response to status inquiries in the bug. Does
anyone know what the status of this is? I was under the impression that this
was a simple fix, so it's odd that nothing has happened for almost a year.

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gnome shell extension version checking when gnome is in a devel release

2014-12-16 Thread Andre Robatino
Is there a standard policy for whether gnome shell extensions are expected
to be constantly updated for the current gnome version when gnome is in a
devel release? For example, in Rawhide, gnome is currently at 3.15.2, so
metadata.json would have to include 3.15.2 for extension version checking
to work. (See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1045669 ). I
understand this could be a maintenance headache, and I could just turn off
the extension version checking in Rawhide until gnome reaches 3.16, now that
I know what's going on.

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Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-08 Thread Andre Robatino
Igor Gnatenko i.gnatenko.brain at gmail.com writes:

 you forget about DLNA sharing, and some more GNOME services.

I googled for DLNA sharing to find out which ports it uses, and it seems
that all of those ports are closed. Are there any specific ports you would
expect to be open?

BTW, I just realized that my router is probably blocking unsolicited
incoming packets, so it's possible the firewall itself might be as open as
Kevin says it is. I'd have to read up a bit to learn how to check. Still,
with the router doing its job, and Transmission not being a pain to set up
anymore, I'm happy.

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Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-08 Thread Andre Robatino
Andre Robatino robatino at fedoraproject.org writes:

 using. (BTW, Transmission now seems to automatically open an incoming port -
 in F20 and below I had to tell Transmission to use a fixed port instead of a
 random one, and manually open that port in the firewall.)

Forgot to mention that before, I also had to configure the router to allow
incoming packets for that one specific port. None of that is necessary now.
Presumably Transmission's Use UPnP or NAT-PMP port forwarding from my
router option is now working properly - before, it didn't do anything.



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Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-07 Thread Andre Robatino
Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at writes:

 I just happened to look at the firewalld default settings, and I was not 
 amused when I noticed this:
 http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/firewalld.git/tree/FedoraWorkstation.xml
   port protocol=udp port=1025-65535/
   port protocol=tcp port=1025-65535/
 This firewall is a joke! ALL higher ports are wide open!

I just did a check of all the service ports and various higher port ranges
using ShieldsUP! ( https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 ) and AFAICT, the
only open higher port is the one random port that Transmission is currently
using. (BTW, Transmission now seems to automatically open an incoming port -
in F20 and below I had to tell Transmission to use a fixed port instead of a
random one, and manually open that port in the firewall.) This is on a
system clean installed from Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5.iso.


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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Final Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now!

2014-12-02 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Final Release Candidate 2
(RC2) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031#comment:24 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for each of
these test pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Final Release
Criteria [3]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4],
or on the test list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Final Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!

2014-11-28 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Final Release Candidate 1
(RC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031#comment:21 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for each of
these test pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Final Release
Criteria [3]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4],
or on the test list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test




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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Final Test Compose 4 (TC4) Available Now!

2014-11-24 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Final Test Compose 4 (TC4)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031#comment:18
. Please see the following pages for download links (including delta
ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should
provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is
available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of
trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the
download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for each of
these test pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Final Release
Criteria [3]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4],
or on the test list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test




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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Final Test Compose 3 (TC3) Available Now!

2014-11-22 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Final Test Compose 3 (TC3)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031#comment:10
. Please see the following pages for download links (including delta
ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should
provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is
available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of
trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the
download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for each of
these test pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Final Release
Criteria [3]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4],
or on the test list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Final Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!

2014-11-13 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Final Test Compose 2 (TC2)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031#comment:3 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for each of
these test pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Final Release
Criteria [3]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4],
or on the test list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Final Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2014-11-04 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Final Test Compose 1 (TC1)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031 . Please
see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and
testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the
fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a
mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it,
just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for each of
these test pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Final Release
Criteria [3]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4],
or on the test list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Beta Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now!

2014-10-29 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Beta Release Candidate 2
(RC2) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6010#comment:17 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for each of these test
pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release Criteria [3].
Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the test
list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6010

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Beta_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test




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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Beta Release Candidate 4 (RC4) Available Now!

2014-10-29 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The last compose was RC2.

As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Beta Release Candidate 4
(RC4) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6010#comment:19 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for each of these test
pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release Criteria [3].
Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the test
list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6010

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Beta_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Beta Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!

2014-10-24 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Beta Release Candidate 1
(RC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6010#comment:11 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for each of these test
pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release Criteria [3].
Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the test
list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6010

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Beta_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test




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Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-17 Thread Andre Robatino
Roberto Ragusa mail at robertoragusa.it writes:

 Are compressed rpms completely impossible to diff efficiently by rsync?

In a word, yes. They're already compressed, so it's unlikely there would be
any matching blocks between old and new rpms for rsync to take advantage of.
(You can verify this by trying a local rsync between two different versions
of a large RPM.)


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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Beta Test Compose 4 (TC4) Available Now!

2014-10-17 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Beta Test Compose 4 (TC4)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6010#comment:7 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for each of these test
pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release Criteria [3].
Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the test
list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6010

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Beta_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Beta Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!

2014-10-08 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Beta Test Compose 2 (TC2)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6010#comment:2 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for each of these test
pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release Criteria [3].
Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the test
list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6010

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Beta_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test




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btrfs as default filesystem for F22?

2014-10-02 Thread Andre Robatino
openSUSE 13.2, scheduled for release in November, will have btrfs as the
default filesystem. What are the chances that F22 will follow suit, assuming
openSUSE has no major problems with it?

https://news.opensuse.org/2014/09/22/

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2014-10-01 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Beta Test Compose 1
(TC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6010 . Please see the following
pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for each of these test
pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release Criteria [3].
Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the test
list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6010

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Beta_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test




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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Alpha Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!

2014-09-16 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Alpha Release Candidate 1
(RC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5940#comment:13 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for each of these test pages [2]
should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria [3]. Help is
available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the test list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Alpha test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5940

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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Re: Bodhi-Problem? - Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-08 Thread Andre Robatino
Rex Dieter rdieter at math.unl.edu writes:

 * go ahead and push it to -testing, better than waiting not getting pushed 
 anywhere

+1

 * possible policy change: require all updates to get pushed to -testing 
 initially, regardless of karma

If something needs urgent testing to get pushed to stable ASAP, this would
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Alpha Test Compose 6 (TC6) Available Now!

2014-09-05 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Alpha Test Compose 6 (TC6)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5940#comment:9 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for each of these test pages [2]
should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria [3]. Help is
available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the test list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Alpha test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5940

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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customizing command line for Startup Applications in F21/Rawhide

2014-07-25 Thread Andre Robatino
Although gnome-tweak-tool does not allow customizing the command line for
Startup Applications, up through F20 you could use the
gnome-session-properties command (in the gnome-session package) to do this.
In F21 and Rawhide, gnome-session-properties is gone. I wanted to start a
gnome-terminal with the command gnome-terminal --geometry=80x24+0-0. By
finding the line in ~/.config/autostart/gnome-terminal.desktop

Exec=gnome-terminal

and changing it to

Exec=gnome-terminal --geometry=80x24+0-0

it does what I want. Is there a less ugly/obscure way to do this, or is one
planned?

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Re: delta rpms - can we turn them off

2014-06-29 Thread Andre Robatino
Rahul Sundaram metherid at gmail.com writes:

 All that being said, what is the criteria for getting a default
 configuration line put into yum.conf?
 I'd really like to get the deltarpm= line put in there.
 
 
 File a bug report in yum bug tracker or Red Hat bugzilla against yum as
the component.  Do the same for dnf

More generally, all existing options should have a commented line in the
config file. In fact, this should probably be true for all config files in
all packages. Not all packages have special man pages for their config
files, like yum and dnf do, and life is easier if every config file is
self-documenting.

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Re: delta rpms - can we turn them off

2014-06-29 Thread Andre Robatino
drago01 drago01 at gmail.com writes:

 Well they should (or have some other source of documentation) ... the
 config file isn't really the right place for documentation, given
 that it does not get updated once you have edited it once ... you will
 miss new options / changed semantics that way.

Yes, that makes sense. But the config file could at least have a commented
line at the top referring to the corresponding man page or other separate
documentation, if it exists.

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Re: dnf even allows to uninstall RPM and systemd without warnings

2014-06-24 Thread Andre Robatino
Gerald B. Cox gbcox at bzb.us writes:

 Sigh A gun doesn't require you to go into root mode before using it; and
it doesn't ask you if you are sure before you pull the trigger. 

dnf requires root mode _every_ time you use it. Same for asking if you're
sure (unless the -y option is used). Any barrier that has to be passed every
time you use something, will be automatically passed without thinking, by
someone in a hurry. (And of course the people in a hurry will use -y, so you
don't even have that.) It goes without saying that time is limited, so you
can't just casually blame the user for not taking extra time to work around
the software's lack of protection against dangerous behavior. Since there
are only a few devs and many users, it's expected that devs should spend
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Re: dnf even allows to uninstall RPM and systemd without warnings

2014-06-24 Thread Andre Robatino
Gerald B. Cox gbcox at bzb.us writes:

 I also cringe when I see the -y or --assumeyes option mentioned.  IMO
that is just inviting disaster. 
 I'm surprised no one is demanding that be removed.  It is dangerous.

Someone might need to use yum or dnf in a script. Personally, that's the
_only_ time I'd ever use -y (and I've never done it), but at least there's a
use case.

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Re: Considering GNOME 3.12 as an F20 update

2014-04-03 Thread Andre Robatino
Matthias Clasen mclasen at redhat.com writes:

 Did any of your gnome-shell extensions break ?

gnome-shell-extension-fedmsg is still not working in Rawhide (see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1045669 ). This only affects
Fedora so thought I should mention it here.




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Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-18 Thread Andre Robatino
Rahul Sundaram metherid at gmail.com writes:


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs#RPM_scriplets_fail_during_updates
 
 Please review it.  Do you want me to send the announcement as well?

I replaced the typo scriplet - scriptlet in several places in that page,
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Final Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!

2013-12-11 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32-bit Install DVD is over its size limit.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Final Release Candidate 1
(RC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808#comment:15 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Final Test Compose 5 (TC5) Available Now!

2013-12-05 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit Desktop Live is over its size limit.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Final Test Compose 5 (TC5)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808#comment:13
. Please see the following pages for download links (including delta
ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should
provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is
available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of
trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the
download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Final Test Compose 4 (TC4) Available Now!

2013-12-03 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit LXDE Live is over its size limit.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Final Test Compose 4 (TC4)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808#comment:11
. Please see the following pages for download links (including delta
ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should
provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is
available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of
trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the
download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Final Test Compose 3 (TC3) Available Now!

2013-11-26 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit Desktop and LXDE Lives are over their respective size
limits.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Final Test Compose 3 (TC3)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808#comment:8 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Final Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!

2013-11-20 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit LXDE Live is over its size limit.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Final Test Compose 2 (TC2)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808#comment:6 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Final Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2013-11-14 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit LXDE Live is over its size limit.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Final Test Compose 1 (TC1)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808 . Please
see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and
testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the
fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a
mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it,
just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta Release Candidate 5 (RC5) Available Now!

2013-11-06 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit Security Spins are over their respective size
targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Beta Release Candidate 5
(RC5) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787#comment:29 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2013-11-05 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit Desktop Live, and the 32- and 64-bit Security Spins are
over their respective size targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Beta Release Candidate 3
(RC3) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787#comment:24 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta Release Candidate 4 (RC4) Available Now!

2013-11-05 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit Security Spins are over their respective size
targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Beta Release Candidate 4
(RC4) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787#comment:26 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now!

2013-11-01 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 20 Beta RC1 compose was skipped. The last tested compose was TC6.

NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit Security Spins are over their respective size
targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Beta Release Candidate 2
(RC2) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787#comment:13 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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Re: openssl multilib broken

2013-10-31 Thread Andre Robatino
Michael Schwendt mschwendt at gmail.com writes:

 Skype is not included with Fedora. Skype does not (and cannot) influence
 which packages are multilib'ed when the repos are composed. Skype 32-bit
 doesn't depend on openssl. What on your machine depends on 32-bit openssl
 and not openssl-libs?

In F16, when I had 32-bit packages (namely Skype and Fedora's wine)
installed, I had both openssl.i686 and openssl.x86_64 installed, so
openssl.i686 is pulled in, directly or indirectly, by either Skype or wine.
It's easy to find out which one by trying to remove openssl.i686 to see what
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta Test Compose 6 (TC6) Available Now!

2013-10-26 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, and the 32- and 64-bit Security Spins are
over their respective size targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Beta Test Compose 6 (TC6)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787#comment:10
. Please see the following pages for download links (including delta
ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should
provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is
available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of
trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the
download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta Test Compose 5 (TC5) Available Now!

2013-10-17 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 64-bit LXDE Live, and the 32- and
64-bit Security Spins are over their respective size targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Beta Test Compose 5 (TC5)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787#comment:8 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta Test Compose 4 (TC4) Available Now!

2013-10-14 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 64-bit LXDE Live, and the 32- and
64-bit Security Spins are over their respective size targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Beta Test Compose 4 (TC4)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787#comment:5 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!

2013-10-08 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 64-bit Desktop Live, the 32-bit
Security Spin, and the 64-bit LXDE and Security Spins are over their
respective size targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Beta Test Compose 2 (TC2)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787#comment:3 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2013-10-03 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 64-bit Desktop Live, the 32-bit
Security Spin, and the 64-bit LXDE and Security Spins are over their
respective size targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787 . Please
see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and
testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the
fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a
mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it,
just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Alpha Release Candidate 4 (RC4) Available Now!

2013-09-18 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 64-bit Desktop Live, the 32-bit
Security Spin, and the 64-bit LXDE and MATE Spins are over their
respective size targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Alpha Release Candidate 4
(RC4) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745#comment:30 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Alpha test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2013-09-16 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 64-bit Desktop Live, the 32-bit
Security Spin, and the 64-bit LXDE and MATE Spins are over their
respective size targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Alpha Release Candidate 3
(RC3) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745#comment:28 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Alpha test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Alpha Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now!

2013-09-12 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 64-bit Desktop Live, the 32-bit MATE
and Security Spins, and the 64-bit LXDE and MATE Spins are over their
respective size targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Alpha Release Candidate 2
(RC2) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745#comment:26 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Alpha test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Alpha Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!

2013-09-11 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 64-bit Desktop Live, the 32-bit MATE
and Security Spins, and the 64-bit LXDE and MATE Spins are over their
respective size targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Alpha Release Candidate 1
(RC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745#comment:23 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Alpha test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Alpha Test Compose 5 (TC5) Available Now!

2013-09-08 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 64-bit Desktop Live, the 32-bit MATE
and Security Spins, and the 64-bit LXDE and MATE Spins are over their
respective size targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Alpha Test Compose 5 (TC5)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745#comment:14
. Please see the following pages for download links (including delta
ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should
provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is
available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of
trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the
download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Alpha test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Alpha Test Compose 4 (TC4) Available Now!

2013-09-05 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 64-bit Desktop Live, the 32-bit MATE
Spin, and the 64-bit LXDE and MATE Spins are over their respective size
targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Alpha Test Compose 4 (TC4)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745#comment:11
. Please see the following pages for download links (including delta
ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should
provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is
available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of
trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the
download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Alpha test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Alpha Test Compose 3 (TC3) Available Now!

2013-09-04 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 64-bit Desktop Live, the 32-bit MATE
Spin, and the 64-bit LXDE and MATE Spins are over their respective size
targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Alpha Test Compose 3 (TC3)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745#comment:9 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Alpha test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Alpha Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!

2013-08-28 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 32- and 64-bit Desktop Lives, the
32-bit MATE and Security Spins, and the 64-bit LXDE and MATE Spins are
over their respective size targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Alpha Test Compose 2 (TC2)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745#comment:4 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Alpha test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Alpha Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2013-08-25 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit DVDs, the 64-bit Live Desktop, the 32-bit MATE
and Security Spins, and the 64-bit LXDE and MATE Spins are over their
respective size targets.

As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Alpha Test Compose 1 (TC1)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745 . Please
see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and
testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the
fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a
mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it,
just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 20 Alpha test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5745

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-23 Thread Andre Robatino
Josh Boyer jwboyer at fedoraproject.org writes:

 The Board has an open ticket on the naming process.  We're working
 through it now, but no release names isn't an immediate option
 because the last time we proposed that the community vote showed names
 were still desired.  Hopefully we'll resolve the ticket shortly and
 explain how naming needs to work in the future.

What is the ticket URL? I don't see it under active Fesco tickets.

BTW, I was wondering if it's possible to simply remove any reference to the
release name from the Fedora OS, so it's not a burden on developers (like
Schrödinger’s Cat was). I noticed that there is a closed ticket
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1103 (Release names should not include
shell metacharacters), which appears to just assume that the release name
has to be included in the OS itself (otherwise, there would be no need for
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Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-23 Thread Andre Robatino
Toshio Kuratomi a.badger at gmail.com writes:

 We could just put the release number into those files and keep the release
 name in our heads, I suppose.  There wouldn't be a technical downside to
 that but I don't know whether people would like that socially or not.

When I said release name I meant just the non-numerical reference. So for
example the F19 version of /etc/fedora-release could have just been Fedora
release 19, not Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat). If this was
acceptable, the release name could use any characters whatsoever, even the
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2013-06-27 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit Security Lab Spins are over their size limit of
700 MiB.

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Final Release Candidate 3
(RC3) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623#comment:27 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Final test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Final_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Final Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!

2013-06-25 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Final Release Candidate 1
(RC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623#comment:18 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Final test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Final_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Final Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now!

2013-06-25 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 32- and 64-bit Security Lab Spins are over their size limit of
700 MiB.

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Final Release Candidate 2
(RC2) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623#comment:21 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Final test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Final_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Final Test Compose 6 (TC6) Available Now!

2013-06-20 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit Live Desktop is over its size target of 1 GB.

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Final Test Compose 6 (TC6)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623#comment:16
. Please see the following pages for download links (including delta
ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should
provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is
available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of
trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the
download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Final test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Final_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Final Test Compose 5 (TC5) Available Now!

2013-06-17 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: TC4 was broken (several DEs failed to appear in the DVD menu) so
it was decided to not announce it and spin TC5 instead. Content
information, including changes, for TC4 can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623#comment:9 . There are delta
ISOs for TC3-TC4 and TC4-TC5. The 64-bit Live Desktop is over its size
target of 1 GB.

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Final Test Compose 5 (TC5)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623#comment:13
. Please see the following pages for download links (including delta
ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should
provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is
available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of
trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the
download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Final test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Final_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Final Test Compose 3 (TC3) Available Now!

2013-06-12 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit Live Desktop is over its size target of 1 GB, and the
64-bit Live LXDE is over its size target of 700 MiB.

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Final Test Compose 3 (TC3)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623#comment:5 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Final test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5623

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Final_Release_Criteria
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 4 (RC4) Available Now!

2013-05-22 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit Live LXDE is over its size target (700 MiB) and will
not fit on a standard 700 MiB CD.

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 4
(RC4) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602#comment:19 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Beta test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2013-05-21 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit Live LXDE is over its size target (700 MiB) and will
not fit on a standard 700 MiB CD.

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 3
(RC3) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602#comment:16 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Beta test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now!

2013-05-17 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: The 64-bit Live LXDE is over its size target (700 MiB) and will
not fit on a standard 700 MiB CD.

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 2
(RC2) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602#comment:14 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Beta test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!

2013-05-15 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: 32-bit DVD, and 64-bit Live Desktop and LXDE, are over their size
targets and will not fit on their target media (single layer DVD, 1 GB
USB, and 700 MiB CD, resp.).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Release Candidate 1
(RC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602#comment:12 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Beta test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 4 (TC4) Available Now!

2013-05-10 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: All DVD and Live images except KDE Live and SoaS Live are still
oversize (as they have been since 19 Alpha TC3).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 4 (TC4)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602#comment:8 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Beta test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-04 Thread Andre Robatino
Richard W.M. Jones rjones at redhat.com writes:

 To be honest it would be a lot more convincing if someone had done a
 study and published the results of it, rather than just linking to
 opinions.  I was rather hopeful that Neilsen-Norman would have done a
 study, but they don't publish their results (or rather, you have to
 pay lots of $$$ to read them).

The Fedora installer is unusual in that's it's used rarely - normally no
more often than once every 6 months (except for testers), and for many users
it's the first time. Even if there was a study, it would probably be on
frequently-used applications and the results might not apply, since it would
assume that the user knew in advance exactly how the application behaves.
There's no way an average user using the F19 installer for the first time
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 3 (TC3) Available Now!

2013-05-03 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: All DVD and Live images except KDE Live and SoaS Live are still
oversize (as they have been since 19 Alpha TC3).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 3 (TC3)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602#comment:4 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Beta test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!

2013-05-02 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: All DVD and Live images except KDE Live and SoaS Live are still
oversize (as they have been since 19 Alpha TC3).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 2 (TC2)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602#comment:2 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Beta test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

Note that due to a bug, the above link currently redirects to 19 Alpha
bugs. Click on Fedora 19 Beta at the top of the page to see the Beta bugs.

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2013-05-01 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: All DVD and Live images except KDE Live and SoaS Live are still
oversize (as they have been since 19 Alpha TC3).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602 . Please
see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and
testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the
fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a
mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it,
just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha and Beta priority test cases for Installation [2],
Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Beta Release
Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6],
or on the test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Beta test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5602

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

Note that due to a bug, the above link currently redirects to 19 Alpha
bugs. Click on Fedora 19 Beta at the top of the page to see the Beta bugs.

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Alpha Release Candidate 4 (RC4) Available Now!

2013-04-17 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: All DVD and Live images except KDE Live and SoaS Live are still
oversize (as they have been since 19 Alpha TC3).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Alpha Release Candidate 4
(RC4) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545#comment:25 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Alpha test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Alpha Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2013-04-15 Thread Andre Robatino
NOTE: All DVD and Live images except KDE Live and SoaS Live are still
oversize (as they have been since Alpha TC3).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Alpha Release Candidate 3
(RC3) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545#comment:23 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Alpha test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Alpha Test Compose 6 (TC6) Available Now!

2013-04-12 Thread Andre Robatino
*IMPORTANT*: Same images as with 19 Alpha TC3 through RC2 are over their
size targets (all DVDs and Lives with the exception of Live KDE and Live
SoaS). Also, note that this is the first time a TC follows an RC (namely
RC2). This is due to several new unaddressed blockers. Hopefully, the
next compose will be RC3.

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Alpha Test Compose 6 (TC6)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545#comment:20
. Please see the following pages for download links (including delta
ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should
provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is
available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of
trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the
download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Alpha test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Alpha Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now!

2013-04-09 Thread Andre Robatino
*IMPORTANT*: Same images as with 19 Alpha TC3 through RC1 are over their
size targets (all DVDs and Lives with the exception of Live KDE and Live
SoaS).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Alpha Release Candidate 2
(RC2) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545#comment:18 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Alpha test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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yum progress/speed indicator for deltarpm rebuilding?

2013-04-08 Thread Andre Robatino
Now that deltarpm support is included in yum, and yum-presto is obsoleted,
are there any plans to include a progress/speed indicator for deltarpm
rebuilding, similar to what yum-presto had? Currently, there's no easy way
to compare the speed of updates using drpms to that without. Even timing
manually, each update is different, so short of doing the same update both
ways by using a yum downgrade in between, it's not possible.

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Alpha Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!

2013-04-08 Thread Andre Robatino
*IMPORTANT*: Same images as with 19 Alpha TC3, TC4, and TC5 are over
their size targets (all DVDs and Lives with the exception of Live KDE
and Live SoaS).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Alpha Release Candidate 1
(RC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545#comment:15 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Alpha test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545

Current Blocker and NTH bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Alpha Test Compose 5 (TC5) Available Now!

2013-04-05 Thread Andre Robatino
*IMPORTANT*: Same images as with 19 Alpha TC3 and TC4 are over their
size targets (all DVDs and Lives with the exception of Live KDE and Live
SoaS).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Alpha Test Compose 5 (TC5)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545#comment:11
. Please see the following pages for download links (including delta
ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should
provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is
available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of
trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the
download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Alpha test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545

Current Blocker and NTH bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 19 Alpha Test Compose 4 (TC4) Available Now!

2013-04-03 Thread Andre Robatino
*IMPORTANT*: Same images as with 19 Alpha TC3 are over their size
targets (all DVDs and Lives with the exception of Live KDE and Live
SoaS).

As per the Fedora 19 schedule [1], Fedora 19 Alpha Test Compose 4 (TC4)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545#comment:9 .
Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs)
and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide
the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available
as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To
use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

Create Fedora 19 Alpha test composes (TC) and release candidates (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5545

Current Blocker and NTH bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-19/f-19-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-18 Thread Andre Robatino
Sérgio Basto sergio at serjux.com writes:

 For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican
 characters which 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922433
 
 Could we consider change release name from Schrödinger's Cat to
 Schrodingers Cat or other name that not have this additional
 problem ? 

If we do, shouldn't there be another vote asking if it's okay to make this
change, in light of the possible release delay? It's not the name that was
originally voted for. (I'm not trying to be difficult - I was one of those who
voted against having a release name, based on the belief that it was a waste of
time, although I didn't imagine that the waste would include QA and developers.)

If the release name only needs to apply to the Final release, the name could be
temporarily changed to Schrodingers Cat for Alpha if it takes longer to hold
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Re: how to enable/disable use of drpms in Rawhide's new yum

2013-03-01 Thread Andre Robatino
Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at writes:

 I've been told presto=0 in yum.conf works. But I don't use Rawhide so I 
 haven't tested that.

Thanks, presto=0 or presto=1 work as expected.




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how to enable/disable use of drpms in Rawhide's new yum

2013-02-28 Thread Andre Robatino
I noticed that drpm support is now built into yum and that yum-presto is
obsoleted. I don't see anything in the yum man page or the standard config files
on how to control whether drpms are used. Can it be done without
installing/removing the deltarpm package?

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2013-01-09 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 18 schedule [1], Fedora 18 Final Release Candidate 3
(RC3) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5406#comment:21 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Security Lab:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Security_Lab_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], Desktop [4], and Security Lab [5] should pass in order to
meet the Final Release Criteria [6]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [7], or on the test list [8].

Create Fedora 18 test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5406

Current Blocker and NTH bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Security_Lab_validation_testing
[6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
[7] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Final Release Candidate 4 (RC4) Available Now!

2013-01-09 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 18 schedule [1], Fedora 18 Final Release Candidate 4
(RC4) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5406#comment:25 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Security Lab:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Security_Lab_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], Desktop [4], and Security Lab [5] should pass in order to
meet the Final Release Criteria [6]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [7], or on the test list [8].

Create Fedora 18 test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5406

Current Blocker and NTH bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Security_Lab_validation_testing
[6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
[7] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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dkms and corruption of kernel-devel package (3.5, 3.6, 3.7 kernels only)

2013-01-09 Thread Andre Robatino
A while back I reported corruption of the kernel-devel package when building
dkms modules for kernels = 3.5 - see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860529 . Specifically, the
System.map file in /usr/src/kernels/* for the corresponding kernel is deleted.
It has now stopped happening as of the first 3.8 Rawhide kernel. Anyone know
what kind of kernel change could cause this to happen only in 3.5 to 3.7
kernels? And is F18 expected to eventually get the 3.8 kernel?

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Final Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now!

2013-01-08 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 18 schedule [1], Fedora 18 Final Release Candidate 2
(RC2) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5406#comment:19 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Security Lab:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Security_Lab_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], Desktop [4], and Security Lab [5] should pass in order to
meet the Final Release Criteria [6]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [7], or on the test list [8].

Create Fedora 18 test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5406

Current Blocker and NTH bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Security_Lab_validation_testing
[6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
[7] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Final Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!

2013-01-05 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 18 schedule [1], Fedora 18 Final Release Candidate 1
(RC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including
changes, can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5406#comment:15 . Please see the
following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
(with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Security Lab:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Security_Lab_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], Desktop [4], and Security Lab [5] should pass in order to
meet the Final Release Criteria [6]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [7], or on the test list [8].

Create Fedora 18 test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5406

Current Blocker and NTH bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Security_Lab_validation_testing
[6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
[7] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Final Test Compose 4 (TC4) Available Now!

2013-01-03 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 18 schedule [1], Fedora 18 Final Test Compose 4 (TC4)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5406#comment:12
. Please see the following pages for download links (including delta
ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should
provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is
available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of
trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the
download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Security Lab:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Security_Lab_Test

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
[2], Base [3], Desktop [4], and Security Lab [5] should pass in order to
meet the Final Release Criteria [6]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
irc.freenode.net [7], or on the test list [8].

Create Fedora 18 test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5406

Current Blocker and NTH bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Security_Lab_validation_testing
[6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
[7] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[8] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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Re: pulseaudio maintainership status

2012-12-30 Thread Andre Robatino
Bruno Wolff III bruno at wolff.to writes:

 I'm using rawhide and sound is working.

In VirtualBox, sound ONLY works when the guest is Rawhide, not F18, since only
Rawhide has pulseaudio 3.0.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862976


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Re: pulseaudio maintainership status

2012-12-27 Thread Andre Robatino
Brendan Jones brendan.jones.it at gmail.com writes:

 If you look at the build status you can see pulseaudio is hardly 
 unmaintained.
 
 Rex Dieter has also provided a backport of the latest pulseaudio to use 
 with early releases. I'm sure he is very amenable to cherry picking 
 patches from a later release if it fixes a specific issue people may be 
 having.
 
 http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/rdieter/pulseaudio-backport/

Sound currently does not work in F18 VirtualBox guests, due to the pulseaudio
version. It *does* work in Rawhide VirtualBox guests due to the fact that
Rawhide has pulseaudio 3.0 (see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862976 ). Any chance of a
corresponding build for F18, or at least a backport which would fix it?




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