Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir
On Thu, 2016-05-12 at 13:57 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > /etc/repos.d is less typing. +1 Or better yet, just /etc/repos? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir
On Thu, 2016-05-12 at 16:27 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 05/12/2016 11:07 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 09:36:32AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > > > > > > = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default > > > reposdir = > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD > > > > > > > > Why not just /etc/system.repos.d? Hell, if really want to make it simple, why not just /etc/repos.d? Or better yet, just /etc/repos/? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22
On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 15:14 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 12:00 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > * The workstation folks think this change could drive away some of > > their potential users for not much gain. In their case, sshd is not > > enabled/running and additional security for a device that sits in > > your home isn't worth the additional complexity. > > Regarding Workstation: I don't think it provides any additional safety, > TBH. I see two cases: I don't care of have a password strength, maybe like 8 characters and one being a number, should be enough. But they made it so strong, and no information at all on what the problem was, nor info on minimum it took to create one. That and, guess I missed those millions of emails that complained on passwords getting cracked and stolen from all the linux computers in the world, that had to all of a sudden cause a panic to strengthen passwords in the installer. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Upgrading KDE in rawhide to Plasma 5
On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 21:43 +0100, Daniel Vrátil wrote: > Hi all, > > > > For Fedora 20 and Fedora 21 users, Plasma 5 is still available > through dvratil/plasma-5 Copr. > The only thing I see in the Copr is plasma 5.2 BETA. Is that really still the beta version or has it been upgraded to the official released packages and just not renamed? Mike Chambers -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Plasma 5
Will F22 introduce plasma5 when it rolls out? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF
On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 14:18 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2014-06-11 14:07 (GMT-0400) DJ Delorie composed: > > > Forcing the users to type a different command name to get exactly the > > same functionality only serves to annoy the user. > > And in this particular case, the change is from a nice single finger word > it's a two-hander, three finger. And as a user himself, above are the exact 2 reasons I hate this move. That it is better and/or becomes better due to backend and such, is no relevant (as long as its faster and easier anyway) really. Still trying to figure out why initials for a name (if decide not gonna continue to use the *yum* name) was decided, instead of at least a different name/word that makes sense at least haha -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: rawhide report: 20121126 changes
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 15:38 +, Mat Booth wrote: > On 26 November 2012 13:10, Fedora Rawhide Report > wrote: > > > > - no need to drop upstream commits patch as some twat blew it away > > Bonus expletives today! Hahaha such way with words. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 18 Beta to slip by two weeks, Beta release date is now Nov 27
On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 19:19 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > This thread continues to get more absurd. Everyone agrees it would be > good to make the installer as efficient as possible. It is open source > code. Check it out from git and go to work. Patches to > anaconda-devel-list. The anaconda team is aware that memory usage could > be optimized; however, you may have noticed they're a _tad_ busy with > other things too. Is there anything more to say in this thread? Given > that no silly usage / historical comparisons anyone can make are going > to magically result in a halving of the RAM use of the installer? One more thing Adam, is that people just need to *chill out*, continue to help test and find bugs as much as possible *before* the final release, to help make it as pleasant as possible when it does go Gold. Who the hell cares if it slips a little or we take a tad longer to fix something up cause it's a major deal? Not like we can't run it *now* as is and use it currently as we wait. If you can't handle things as done now, go find something else more stable, or just use gold releases and don't worry bout testing and dealing with stuff. Wait for official releases and quit complaining about this or that. Hell this stuff is all free, why the hell am I gonna complain? SMH...Just my $.02, am done. Ok more coffee now :) -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: No f18 in bodhi
On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 17:09 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Hi, > > f18 seems to be missing in bodhi. > > I.e., ATM, it seems impossible to push packages to f18. Just discussed on test list, will be used starting tonight sometime. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: 3.3.1-5.fc17.x86_64.debug power management and overheating issue
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 21:28 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Mon, 16 Apr 2012, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > Subject: Re: 3.3.1-5.fc17.x86_64.debug power management and overheating > > issue > > > > Could be > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675433 > > Actually, it looks like what they did to fix that might have caused it > to happen to me. I'll go back to 3.3.0-4 and see if it still happens. Might also try 3.3.2-1 that is now in updates-testing. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: KDE and Evolution
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 12:31 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Caterpillar wrote: > > is KSecret, the KDE wallet? > > KSecrets aims at being a unified wallet providing both the KWallet and > gnome-keyring interfaces, i.e. it wants to replace both KWallet and gnome- > keyring. But unfortunately, the KWallet interface in KSecrets is not ready > yet and the gnome-keyring interface doesn't seem to work right. So you're > much better off using the original KWallet and gnome-keyring right now. > > Kevin Kofler > Soo, things will go back to how was in F16 for now, as in just kwallet and gnome-keyring installed by default? Hell shouldn't ksecrets be taken out for now anyway since don't work? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
KDE and Evolution
Did a F17 install yesterday (has happened last couple test installs), with KDE as my desktop. Fired up evolution for first time, did the restore as always do. When it finally came up to enter my password for my imap server, after entering it, a menu came up (KDE DaemonSecret service?) to enter password. So I did, then another menu comes up and asks to always allow or just this session. So I answer, then the menus go away, and my evolution is still sitting there with the password menu there as well, but the OK button greyed out, like it's thinking but doesn't do anything. On F16 as I am now, there is a menu that comes up after doing evolution for the first time, but soon as I do passwords, it goes away and evolution goes on as normal. Anyone run into this already or anything? Hope that made sense LOL. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution + bogofilter
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 10:12 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 10:40 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > > > Hi, > > just a little follow-up. I came across similar question with other user > > and even not for him, but for me, in my F17 install, I get an empty > > string when issuing: > >$ dconf read /org/gnome/evolution/mail/junk-default-plugin > > regardless the schema file defines the default value as 'Bogofilter'. > > Maybe that's the reason for non-working automatic spam filtering? > > Bye, > > Milan > > > > P.S.: I would change the value while evolution is off, just to make sure > > its change will be taken in the effect > > On F16 I run the dconf line above and returns nothing as well, cept junk > stuff works. > > How do you change the value, as in what is the command and what am I > suppose to see/read in the dconf if it's working correctly? gconftool-2 --get /apps/evolution/mail/junk/default_plugin Bogofilter Side Note: Just did a fresh F17 install last night and trying again at it. One think I see here compared to F16 is on F17 there is no .bogofilter in my home dir compared to F16 there was. Is the bogofilter db or info stored somewhere else? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F17 tree
I mirror this locally from a mirror and now seeing most of the sub dir's, such as image, efi, etc.. are now missing. (Checked other mirrors too). Someone threw a grenade on the F17 tree and wiped it out? haha -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution + bogofilter
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 10:40 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > Hi, > just a little follow-up. I came across similar question with other user > and even not for him, but for me, in my F17 install, I get an empty > string when issuing: >$ dconf read /org/gnome/evolution/mail/junk-default-plugin > regardless the schema file defines the default value as 'Bogofilter'. > Maybe that's the reason for non-working automatic spam filtering? > Bye, > Milan > > P.S.: I would change the value while evolution is off, just to make sure > its change will be taken in the effect On F16 I run the dconf line above and returns nothing as well, cept junk stuff works. How do you change the value, as in what is the command and what am I suppose to see/read in the dconf if it's working correctly? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F17 latest yum update hoses grub.cfg, grubby?
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 20:30 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > On 03/20/2012 06:24 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > After a yum update a few minutes ago, GRUB's kinda messed up. Anyone else? > > Yes, it happened to me, too, after booting an up-to-the-minute anaconda > install DVD > for _update_ (not fresh install). I built the DVD to test the changes that > are > claimed to fix the problems of last weekend. This is on "bare metal" real > hardware > (including physical DVD) with no virtualization of any kind. > > I recovered by re-running a complete fresh install, because I had only a > short time invested in the originally-installed system. > > > > Eventually it boots, but uname -r indicates 3.3.0-0.rc7.git0.3 not 3.3.0-1. > > Yes. > > > So is this a problem with grubby? Or is this ... wait. Why does the GRUB2 > > menu says it's GRUB version 2.00~beta2, and yet yum says what's installed > > is 1.99-19 from repo koji-override-1? grubby is 8.10-1. > > Yes, I see the same versions. Saw same errors (yesterday I think) when I had F17 running and did an update. Has this been fixed anytime soon or whatever? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution + bogofilter
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 08:04 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 23:06 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > Does setting emails in your inbox folder to junk working automatically? > > It seem it doesn't do it automatically and I have to keep selecting them > > and manually marking them junk. > > > > On a fresh install (such as this one), I do a restore from a backup file > > as I always do, to include doiong the same thing in F16 (that worked > > just fine) and the settings are there, and set as suppose to be. Also > > evolution-bogofilter is installed as well. Just for some reason it's > > not setting them to junk automatically. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > evolution-bogofilter-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 > > evolution-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 > > bogofilter-1.2.2-3.fc17.x86_64 > > Hi, > evolution's backup doesn't contain your bogofilter database, it's stored > in a bogofilter private directory, thus I guess you need to train it > again? Yes I understand it has to relearn. But it doesn't is the problem. I had to keep marking them as junk. Example, just reinstalled F16+updates on this very box. Started evo + the backup file as a restore, just as with F17. Soon as I marked the initial spam stuff in my inbox as junk, it started marking automatically. No, it doesn't get them all the time and have to relearn as I go, but it starts to immediately. F17 does NOT do it, almost none at all, even after a couple of days of marking them. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Evolution + bogofilter
Does setting emails in your inbox folder to junk working automatically? It seem it doesn't do it automatically and I have to keep selecting them and manually marking them junk. On a fresh install (such as this one), I do a restore from a backup file as I always do, to include doiong the same thing in F16 (that worked just fine) and the settings are there, and set as suppose to be. Also evolution-bogofilter is installed as well. Just for some reason it's not setting them to junk automatically. Any ideas? evolution-bogofilter-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 evolution-3.3.91-1.fc17.x86_64 bogofilter-1.2.2-3.fc17.x86_64 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Chromium
On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 12:35 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mar 18, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > Installed from spot's personal repo, seems it don't get on the internet > > at all in F17. In F16 it worked fine (not sure if same version). > > > > Any ideas or problems with anyone else? > > No. I'm using F17 beta TC1, KDE, x86_64. I have manually added the google yum > repo. To install I used: > > yum install google-chrome-beta > > which installed version 18.0.1025.108-127110. You're using google-chrome, this is "chromium". -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Chromium
Installed from spot's personal repo, seems it don't get on the internet at all in F17. In F16 it worked fine (not sure if same version). Any ideas or problems with anyone else? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: f16 log flooded with dbus-daemon/upowerd warnings
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 07:53 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > I've got a lot of messages like this: > > Mar 9 07:31:49 nbecker1 dbus-daemon[987]: ** (upowerd:1208): WARNING **: > Property get or set does not have an interface string as first arg Check below.. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=743779 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FC17alpha, evolution, ati card, kernel 3.3.0-rc6 and me going crazy...
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 22:56 -0500, Peter A wrote: > The issue effects only Evolution it seems - all other software I tried > works fine (that's anything from firefox to libreoffice to gimp to > ancient stuff like xv from an rpm built in 99). My desktop is KDE with > OpenGL rendering but most effects turned off. > > The issue results in the tree menu showing the mail boxes on the left > being shifted about 75px up. However, the cursor location (e.g. > highlighted folder when drag and drop) is what the screen should be. In > other words, I need to move the cursor about 75px further down to select > the correct folder. I wanted to talk to some friends about this so I > took a screenshot - and the screenshot shows up perfect. > (http://www.loonybin.org/evo1.jpg) However, if I do a screengrab of the > root window, the corruption is visible. > (http://www.loonybin.org/evo2.jpg). Both screenshots were taken less > than a second apart with import. Was using KDE + evolution as well - in that a fresh install from yesterday's tree was used - and saw the exact same thing. When trying to configure evolution (edit/preferences), when the menu first comes up, couldn't even see the icons/menus on the left until pointed the mouse over there and then they would appear. Was quite weird, and didnt' see this before from few days prior. Can't test as back to F16 but am confirming the behaviour from above. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F17 x86_64 composes
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 22:16 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 16:37 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > Noticed that x86_64 tree is still NOT installable, as in no boot.iso or > > anything. Is this going to remain that way for awhile? > > Is there a reason you can't use the Alpha boot.iso? Yes I did use it, was just inquiring cause I mirror locally usually install against it if run into problems or something. Just was checking in general. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F17 x86_64 composes
Noticed that x86_64 tree is still NOT installable, as in no boot.iso or anything. Is this going to remain that way for awhile? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120212 changes
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 17:36 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 11:29 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > > Is this still failing to compose and/or is there a bug to follow that > > might be covering this until it's fixed? > > In meantime if it helps, we got boot.iso in > http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Alpha.RC2/Fedora/x86_64/os/images/ Yea I have that one and the dvd.iso. But I also mirror the tree itself and that is more updated to install against. Although I might try compose it myself as like to learn that anyway. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120212 changes
On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:49 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:46 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:25 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 10:08 +, Branched Report wrote: > > > > Compose started at Sun Feb 12 08:15:07 UTC 2012 > > > > > > Think this compose worked as now see all the images/efi and everything > > > else got created. Gonna try a test install to see what happens. > > > > > > > OK , looked through the sub dir's and don't see a netinstall.iso or > > boot.iso in the images dir like in F16 and later trees. These still > > missing/still need to be created or is there another method now to > > create an ISO to do nfs installs and such? > > And lemme reply to my own question...I checked i386 side and it does > have the boot.iso but x86_64 does not (also my system). So guessing > 64bit side failed to create one for one problem or another? Sooo, this problem still exists, or at least still don't see any boot.iso's being created. Is this still failing to compose and/or is there a bug to follow that might be covering this until it's fixed? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F17 Slowness
Just seeing if it's just me, or we back to being slow again during testing with the debug options and the kernel? Am on a F16 kernel and is little better than F17 3.3 kernels. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F17 bootloader error
On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 17:51 -0600, David Lehman wrote: > On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 11:41 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > When trying to do test install against F17Alpha TC2, during partition > > layout, I get error below... > > > > "you have not created a bootloader stage1 target device" > > > > I have F16 installed on here, and even reformatted the disks to GPT > > before I installed F16. So using same partitions as installed like I > > always do should just work. So hoping this a install issue and not a > > "me" issue LOL. > > If you are using a GPT disklabel on a BIOS/non-EFI system with grub2 you > will need a "BIOS Boot" partition of 1MB, preferably as the first > partition on the disk. This error message sucks -- I know. It will > hopefully be a bit clearer in time for beta. I don't have a BIOS boot partition now on F16 and it had to be GPT when I first installed it. So what's the difference and do I *have* to have it on F17 because of a change? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F17 bootloader error
When trying to do test install against F17Alpha TC2, during partition layout, I get error below... "you have not created a bootloader stage1 target device" I have F16 installed on here, and even reformatted the disks to GPT before I installed F16. So using same partitions as installed like I always do should just work. So hoping this a install issue and not a "me" issue LOL. Below are links to the error and my partition layout (the top harddrive is Win 7) Error... http://miketc.net/bootloader.jpg Partition Layout... http://miketc.net/partitions.jpg -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120212 changes
On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 10:54 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:46:18 -0600 > Mike Chambers wrote: > > > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:25 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 10:08 +, Branched Report wrote: > > > > Compose started at Sun Feb 12 08:15:07 UTC 2012 > > > > > > Think this compose worked as now see all the images/efi and > > > everything else got created. Gonna try a test install to see what > > > happens. > > > > > > > OK , looked through the sub dir's and don't see a netinstall.iso or > > boot.iso in the images dir like in F16 and later trees. These still > > missing/still need to be created or is there another method now to > > create an ISO to do nfs installs and such? > > Looks like the 32bit one worked fine, but the 64bit one failed: Noticed that after I checked both dirs, as did see boot.iso in 386 but not 64bit. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120212 changes
On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:46 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:25 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 10:08 +, Branched Report wrote: > > > Compose started at Sun Feb 12 08:15:07 UTC 2012 > > > > Think this compose worked as now see all the images/efi and everything > > else got created. Gonna try a test install to see what happens. > > > > OK , looked through the sub dir's and don't see a netinstall.iso or > boot.iso in the images dir like in F16 and later trees. These still > missing/still need to be created or is there another method now to > create an ISO to do nfs installs and such? And lemme reply to my own question...I checked i386 side and it does have the boot.iso but x86_64 does not (also my system). So guessing 64bit side failed to create one for one problem or another? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120212 changes
On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 11:25 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 10:08 +, Branched Report wrote: > > Compose started at Sun Feb 12 08:15:07 UTC 2012 > > Think this compose worked as now see all the images/efi and everything > else got created. Gonna try a test install to see what happens. > OK , looked through the sub dir's and don't see a netinstall.iso or boot.iso in the images dir like in F16 and later trees. These still missing/still need to be created or is there another method now to create an ISO to do nfs installs and such? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120212 changes
On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 10:08 +, Branched Report wrote: > Compose started at Sun Feb 12 08:15:07 UTC 2012 Think this compose worked as now see all the images/efi and everything else got created. Gonna try a test install to see what happens. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120211 changes
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 07:40 -0800, John Reiser wrote: > > Is the tree installable yet (I yet to see images dir and such)? Don't > > mean is an ISO built, but can the tree be installed against or will be > > soon? > > Yesterday (Friday) using pungi-2.10-1.fc17 I built an anaconda install DVD > of f17-branched. This effectively mirrors the tree into /var/cache/pungi, > and does so incrementally, and allows for future incremental updates. > A fresh install from the DVD completed successfully. Upon boot, the > newly-installed system hung near the end of multi-user boot, > shortly before displaying the graphical greeter screen. > > So by that method, then f17-branched is "installable". If you are mirroring > "the tree" via rsync, or any incremental scheme based on modification date, > then the resulting local tree is >= 99% usable, and you should start now. > What do you mean, exactly, by "can the tree be installed against"? Install against via nfs/http/ftp but there are no images dir with the netinstall.iso or whatever to do a quick cd or anything. I don't create images as I just make quick boot cd from the boot.iso. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120211 changes
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 10:06 +, Branched Report wrote: > Compose started at Sat Feb 11 08:15:07 UTC 2012 Is the tree installable yet (I yet to see images dir and such)? Don't mean is an ISO built, but can the tree be installed against or will be soon? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F17 compose
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 09:59 -0800, John Reiser wrote: > > Has there been a compose against F17, that would therefore create the > > images dir and boot.iso and everything so can install against it? > However, when I compose against f17-branched, I get: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789101 > [Bug 789101] New: ConfigParser.NoOptionError: No option 'nohash' in section: > 'pungi' Yes above is what I am talking about, I think haha. There is no compose against the tree itself, prolly cause of above or part of it. Hopefully one happens soon as I mirror locally and do installs against it instead of downloading iso's. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F17 compose
Has there been a compose against F17, that would therefore create the images dir and boot.iso and everything so can install against it? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 17 Mass branching
On Tue, 2012-02-07 at 23:45 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > We have completed mass branching for Fedora 17 you now need make sure > that you build things for Fedora 17 from the f17 branch, master is now > for Fedora 18. So when can we see the actual F17 dir on site/mirrors so we can start mirroring them locally? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Branching F17
Seeing the TC's for F17 Alpha start to come out (and see how currently based on rawhide), when does the branch get done and set? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Rawhide tree structure
Did my eyes deceive me, or do the packages now get separated and put in their respected dir of their first letter, and not located in one dir now? Did the tree change or is this an error? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best little town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution 3.3.1 in rawhide
On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 19:10 +, Paul Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > > Just managed to upgrade tonight, but there seems to be a hitch with > evolution - none of my folders appear! > None of your "local" folders appear, such as with pop, or imap folders or something else? I don't run it but thought would ask to help troubleshoot. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!
On Sun, 2011-11-06 at 22:42 +, Bojan Smojver wrote: > drago01 gmail.com> writes: > > > Not true ... I recommend reading > > https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/#Activities_Overview > > I read that a long, long time ago, of course. In fact, I have written a > constructive critique of Gnome 3 many months ago, based to a large degree on > the > very document you pointed to. Critique still holds, unfortunately. You can > google it. Reading all sorts of stuff or trying to but havcen't found yours yet (don't like it neither, so wanted to see your thoughts on it too) -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart
On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 23:23 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > I DO NOT NEED SYSTEMD ON 20 SERVERS HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE STARTING > FAST ENOUGH AND I NEED NO MAGIC WHICH THINKS KNOWS WHAT TO START > IN WHICH ORDER SINCE I KNOW WHAT IS RUNNING ON MY SYSTEMS Why run Fedora itself on 20 servers? Those are mission capable and in a production environment? Might be free, but not sure I would run all those on this type environment. A slower and more stable platform that is free might be better. That's beside the point, why are you not testing upgrades and working out the issues yourself before even trying, in a test environment? Actually, if they need no magic and are fast enough, why upgrade at all right now and wait until everything is worked out? Not telling you what to do, just bringing up different points/suggestions. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15 and HP printer
On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 10:26 +0200, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > Hi all, > I just installed F15 over my old F14 (I just kept /home). I tried > installing my printer (HP Deskjet 5740) and I failed miserably. First, I would totally delete the printer from your system, unplug it from the computer and totally wipe it clean as in the system recognized or sees NO printer at all when it's booted. Turn off printer, plug in to computer, make sure it's on and then turn on the computer. Your computer should pick it up and install it, esp being HP printer and working with linux all the time. Mine is detected all by itself and never have to do anything. If your computer isn't detected on it's own by itself (how is it connected btw, usb cable?), try like someone else said, system-config-printer and see if that works. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Systemd questions following 15B upgrade
On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 07:58 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 14/05/11 06:57, Philip Prindeville wrote: > > > Also, now that we don't use upstart, what's the equivalent of: > > > > chkconfig service on > > > > systemctl enable\disable foo.service And at least for now, you can still do chkconfig and it will do what you want and/or transform it to systemctl for you. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 15 Final Change Deadline, and Outstanding Blocker Bugs
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 04:34 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > This is your friendly reminder that we have reached the Final Change > Deadline for Fedora 15. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Change_deadlines Without having the F15 schedule handy at the moment, is this as of today and all updates starting today go to f15/updates for zero-day updates? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 17:48 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 08:58, Denys Vlasenko > wrote: > Gnome 3 is a usability disaster. It added some useful things, > yes, > but it also REMOVED some useful things - what a hell!? > Since when is that a valid development practice? > Do we hate our users or what? > > If you have some constructive feedback to offer, I would be willing to > help you understand why GNOME 3 is an improvement. > > What and/or how are the extensions to install to help configure/run gnome-3 better? I have been using KDE but might try gnome-3 again if have access or know where to find them -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15 Alpha impressions
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 11:23 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 02/27/2011 09:55 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > > I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would > > tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it. > > > > try: > > $ gsettings set org.gnome.shell.clock show-date true No problem turning it on or off to see it permanently. But used to rather just have clock viewable, then just hover mouse over for date if really need to see it. No biggie I guess, as it's now in middle by itself and not that big so enabled date back for now. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15 Alpha impressions
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:20 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > On 02/27/2011 03:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > > When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one > > I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top. I can't tell Firefox > > or anything is running, unleses I click on the Activities link or > > control tab. > > I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is > supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is > already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an > instance is already running it will be brought into focus or a new instance > is started. > Also you don't need to click on "Activities" but can simply move the mouse > to the upper left corner to open the favorites. While this takes some > getting used to I think it makes sense. Simply "throw" you mouse into the > upper left corner and then click on Firefox. OK, got the corner thing with the mouse, seems to work. Still hate it. Seems more work to do...move mouse, click on icon, then start. Instead of just going to workspace/icon or whatever and clicking on it. > > > > > I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would > > tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it. > > I think the general problem here is that with the advent of tablet and > other touchscreen driven devices the whole hover mechanic just doesn't work > at all anymore. On the other hand I noticed that when I move the mouse over > an icon at the bottom right corner the icon slides to the side and reveal a > label for that icon. So there the hover concept seems to be still alive. > This is a problem though as apparently you cannot click that label: > 1. Update icon appears > 2. You want to click on it and move the mouse over it > 3. The icon moves away from your pointer revealing the label > 4. Clicking no longer works since the label is not clickable > 5. You move the mouse over to the new icon position > 6. If you overshoot the icon again slides away from you pointer => continue > at 2. > 7. If you don't overshoot you are finally able to do what you wanted to do > in the first place: click that icon. Yep, experienced same thing with the bottom right icons. But as you said, hypocritical when can't do it at the top over time/date/etc..but in the bottom it's set to, yet have to hit it at right spot for it to work. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15 Alpha impressions
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:06 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated > system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem? Yep, try removing the at-spi2* packages (it only removes bout 5 total or so) and see if that works for you. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F15 Alpha impressions
Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other releases (F14 or below). When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top. I can't tell Firefox or anything is running, unleses I click on the Activities link or control tab. When adding a background image, that little plus/negative sign at the bottom isn't too inviting to use. Had to look at that program couple times to understand/see them at the bottom. Could be couple bigger buttons or something. How the hell do you add something to be started up when your profile starts? Such as devilspie or whatever? I used to add this to startup programs. I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: mass rebuild status
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 18:23 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > so the mass rebuild is 24 hours in we have completed ~45% of the builds and > are at 365 packages failed to build the total number of builds in the mass > rebuild is 10404 we are churning along nicely. i expect to complete the first > pass sometime in the next 24 hours. so far i think its going pretty well Wow, didn't know it was THAT many packages, or paid that much attention to it. Is there some sort of limit to #'s or space or anything? I know stuff gets orphaned at times, but am sure stuff getting added outweighs the orphaning. Not my money/hardware/whatever and no beef, just asking in general. Also think maybe it saves lil time on mass rebuilds, etc.. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Evolution-2.31.91 & .92 for F14
If you download either of these versions from koji and try to install them, you get a deps issue with gnome-panel, as it requires libedataserverui-1.2.so.10()(64bit). So will gnome-panel (am guessing most of gnome as well) be built anytime soon as well? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F14 evolution restore
When doing a fresh F14 install (tonight), and starting evolution for first time and doing a restore, it didn't seem to convert my filters nor addressbook, or at least to the proper locations. I got he filters.xml copied over to i think the .config/evolution/mail folder (or something like that) but couldn't find where my address book was. Luckily I sort of had a addressbook.vcf (sp?) file to restore that was somewhat updated. Oh yea, and as of this email it doesn't seem to automatically add my signture i had to recreate from scratch. Mike Chambers -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F14 gnome-control-panel appearance
Is this hidden somewhere, missing or not included any longer? I can't seem to find it at all. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F14 TC2 x86_64b
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 16:25 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > > Ok, so this compose seems to have anaconda-14.14. When trying to do an > > nfs install, once I put in the server/directory information, it shows it > > connecting and trying to pull up the gui. But after that, my monitor > > just stays black and nothing ever happens, nor does it seem to react to > > keyboard cept to do a ctrl+alt+del. > > Does your video card use the 'radeon' driver for ATI Radeon cards? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=596985 > hang at start of X11 on fresh install from DVD [2 months old] > > The workaround is to choose "Install with basic video driver". Figured that out and then took out the nomodset parameter from grub.conf and all seems to be well so far. Well, cept the gnome-panel crashing all the time. I just got the f15 gnome-panel update (f14 one failed to build) for now to get it to stop (yes bug was filed already). -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F14 TC2 x86_64b
Ok, so this compose seems to have anaconda-14.14. When trying to do an nfs install, once I put in the server/directory information, it shows it connecting and trying to pull up the gui. But after that, my monitor just stays black and nothing ever happens, nor does it seem to react to keyboard cept to do a ctrl+alt+del. Does it take a while (mins?) for the GUI to come up or is there a bug? Yes I have the dvd in a dir and the install.img in the images sub dir beneath it. Anyone else or is there a fix to try/do to get around it? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F13 update to F14
If I take a currently updated F13 system and update to F14 (and hafta use --skip-broken, prolly due to python deps), would I have to configure/change anything like initrd or systemdid (sp?) to boot/work right after? And will builds/upgrades for F14 go to the updates/testing/f14 now as tests then to f14 branch when stable? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Firefox 4 repo
Anyone doing any builds of this during development and supplying a repo to download and install that way instead of source builds? Or is it too buggy to do at the moment? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Increase grub timeout
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 11:47 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 05/15/2010 11:40 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > Also, I changed the timeout after the install and it stays that way and > > doesn't change back. The setting is permanently until I change it > > again. > > > > Yes it is - I think someone was suggesting it be changed .. Actually, I was answering your question, in regards to if it's changed, will it be changed back. Was thinking you were asking this as in after the install and you changed it, will it be changed back by an upgrade or something. Sorry for the confusion, -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Increase grub timeout
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 08:23 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: >What if a user puts in a timeout - after a successful boot will it > stay or be reset to 0. It should never change what the user desires ... > you may need a fancier smarter set of rules. Ok, did a test install this morning on a dual boot (Win 7) system and the grub timeout was set to 5, which is as directed for multi boot systems or installs using serial. Also, I changed the timeout after the install and it stays that way and doesn't change back. The setting is permanently until I change it again. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Increase grub timeout
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 10:33 +1000, Chris Jones wrote: > So what's the actual bug? I've read through the tracker list and I > still can;t for the life of me detect an actual bug, but rather an > annoyance for a select few. However, I do agree that there should be a > delay increase for GRUB timeout. More so like that of Debian, Ubuntu > etc. Was originally filed when discovered there was no timeout during a boot after a test install, before was told it was done on purpose. So therefore thought it was a bug. Now it's an argument as to whether there should be a timeout or not. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Increase grub timeout
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 15:31 -0400, goinea...@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I'm reaching my one year anniversary using fedora, so I guess it's > time to stop lurking and start writing, so here goes. > > > Back in November I added my two cents to the bugzilla report titled > "Increase grub timeout". Today I got a notification the it has been > set as WontFix. The reason by Chris Lumen in his last paragraph > states: > > > I'm closing as WONTFIX only on that basis. Don't take it as an offence > or that > we'll never change this behavior. I'm just not willing to fix it until > there's > distribution buy-in. Thanks. The bug # he's discussing is below.. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541315 > OK, no offense taken, and, I understand that for marketing, saving a few > seconds off of boot-up time is an immense selling point, especially when all > the distros stand up next to one another and try to write their boot up times > into the snow. > Reading the forums and the mailing lists, I don't think I've come across one > post that is positive for keeping the timeout at zero, yet, there is a wall > to be hurdled called "distribution buy-in". > After close to a year using fedora, I know that the first thing I have to do > is change the timeout to a 3 and comment out hiddenmenu. But as a new user, > it took a while for me to figure out what was going on. I feel for the new > user who has a video card that is not immediately recognized and winds up > with a black screen after the boot. I have had this happen to me personally > doing an install, and, there have been some installs where hitting esc would > not stop the boot. I've had to ssh into one machine to change the timeout, > just so I could add "vesa" to the kernel line during boot. > As someone who spends his time helping Linux users on forums, it would really > help a lot to remove this obstacle. It doesn't make sense to lock a new user > out of the grub screen. Not sure I know what the results are of whom discussed this or who agreed or disagreed as to keep it same or not. But I am the one who opened the bug in the first place. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: evolution icon missing
On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 10:50 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > > The "mark the selected messages as not junk" icon is now missing after > > this morning (last night?) 's updates. > > I think its fixed in updates-testing in the push that was just > published to the list. > > Peter Did get new evo package this afternoon and the icon is back. So guess that was the fix. Or something was, anyway. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
evolution icon missing
The "mark the selected messages as not junk" icon is now missing after this morning (last night?) 's updates. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: playing flash regression in f13-beta
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 15:50 +0800, Luming Yu wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Luming Yu wrote: > >> Hmm,... tried ff 3.6.4, not working... > > > > > > Just fyi, the flash video in question works fine for me in a fully > > updated 64bit F13 beta using the 64bit flash using the tarball from > > the adobe website > > libflashplayer-10.0.45.2.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz > > any instructions on how to do that? > Looks like it's not as simple as just copying it to /usr/lib64/flash-plugin... 1 - Your copying the .so file to the wrong location. Just copy it to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugin/ dir and it works just fine, including firefox. 2 - There are repos out there that will package the plugin for you and have a repo setup to download it via yum and you don't have to do a thing. Just search for it. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Anaconda install fails
Burned a fresh boot.iso from this morning to attempt a new F13 install. Everything worked up to the point of the first gui screen, which is I am guessing the welcome to Fedora install screen. No response from mouse/keyboard (MS Wireless desktop) at all, which usually isn't a problem up to this point in the development. Thinking hardware/anaconda problem initially. Anyone else seeing this? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: HAL status
On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 22:03 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 04:46 +, Ben Boeckel wrote: > > Hi, > > > > With X no longer using HAL for device configuration, what the status of > > completely replacing HAL? I know udev, upower, and udisks are destined > > to replace it, but since I run a tight setup and HAL is not in the > > "Minimal" install on the F-13 media, I was wondering when a setup > > completely without HAL would be possible (upower currently depends on it > > through pm-utils). Thanks. > > We are tracking the progress towards hal removal here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/HalRemoval Here are some deps that I saw when trying to remove it.. Removing: hal x86_64 0.5.14-3.fc13 installed 1.2 M Removing for dependencies: compiz-gnome x86_64 0.8.6-1.fc13installed 2.2 M desktop-effects x86_64 0.8.6-1.fc13@updates-testing 260 k gdm x86_64 1:2.29.92-6.fc13installed 4.5 M gdm-plugin-fingerprintx86_64 1:2.29.92-6.fc13installed 75 k gdm-user-switch-appletx86_64 1:2.29.92-6.fc13installed 119 k gnome-applets x86_64 1:2.30.0-1.fc13 installed 15 M gnome-packagekit x86_64 2.30.0-2.fc13 @updates-testing 8.8 M gnome-panel x86_64 2.30.0-1.fc13 installed 9.8 M gnome-power-manager x86_64 2.30.0-1.fc13 installed 7.3 M gnome-session x86_64 2.30.0-1.fc13 installed 1.7 M gnome-session-xsessionx86_64 2.30.0-1.fc13 installed 4.6 k hal-info noarch 20090716-3.fc12 installed 310 k plymouth-gdm-hooksx86_64 0.8.1-3.fc13installed 171 pm-utils x86_64 1.2.6.1-1.fc13 installed 259 k pulseaudio-gdm-hooks x86_64 0.9.21-6.fc13 installed 385 smolt noarch 1.4.2.2-1.fc13 installed 1.0 M smolt-firstboot noarch 1.4.2.2-1.fc13 installed 12 k upowerx86_64 0.9.2-1.fc13 @updates-testing 327 k Hope word wrap didnt' screw it up. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: boot.fp.org
On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 16:17 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > I burned the cd/dvd iso from that site and tried to boot with it to test > > doing an install with F13. But the problem is during boot, it wants to > > configure net0 for networking (wired built-in ethernet on computer) and > > fails. Is it suppose to do net0 or shouldn't it do eth0 or whatever? > > > > boot.fedoraproject.org is not actually booting Linux, it's booting a boot > loader to then boot Linux. I believe gpxe does refer to the network > interfaces netX. Were you having problems getting network to work? > Using DHCP or manual configuration? What network card? Never got the option to configure neither one as it failed to detect or whatever, can't remember exact wording. Network is builtin to the motherboard, an eMachine, via nvidia chipset motherboard. 00:07.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2) Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 0181 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 28 Memory at dbf7d000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] I/O ports at d480 [size=8] Capabilities: Kernel driver in use: forcedeth Kernel modules: forcedeth Uses the forcedeth module for networking. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
boot.fp.org
I burned the cd/dvd iso from that site and tried to boot with it to test doing an install with F13. But the problem is during boot, it wants to configure net0 for networking (wired built-in ethernet on computer) and fails. Is it suppose to do net0 or shouldn't it do eth0 or whatever? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: New emails not being read
On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 23:20 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > When going to a new folder and the first new email, seems evo won't show > the email as read even tho it's clicked on. Have to click on another > email and back to it, or open the email to show as read. > > evolution-2.30.0-1.fc13.x86_64 Bug filed... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=579570 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
New emails not being read
When going to a new folder and the first new email, seems evo won't show the email as read even tho it's clicked on. Have to click on another email and back to it, or open the email to show as read. evolution-2.30.0-1.fc13.x86_64 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
sssd update pulling in 686 packages [Fwd: Fedora 13 updates-testing report]
sssd-1.1.1-1.fc13 (FEDORA-2010-5644) System Security Services Daemon Update Information: * Fixed the IPA provider (which was segfaulting at start) * Fixed a bug in the SSSDConfig API causing some options to revert to their defaults* This impacted the Authconfig UI * Ensure that SASL binds to LDAP auto-retry when interrupted by a signal ChangeLog: * Thu Apr 1 2010 Stephen Gallagher - 1.1.1-1 - New upstream release 1.1.1 - Fixed the IPA provider (which was segfaulting at start) - Fixed a bug in the SSSDConfig API causing some options to revert to - their defaults - This impacted the Authconfig UI - Ensure that SASL binds to LDAP auto-retry when interrupted by a signal * Mon Mar 22 2010 Stephen Gallagher - 1.1.0-2 - Release SSSD 1.1.0 final - Fix two potential segfaults - Fix memory leak in monitor - Better error message for unusable confdb * Wed Mar 17 2010 Stephen Gallagher - 1.1.0-1.pre20100317git0ea7f19 - Release candidate for SSSD 1.1 - Add simple access provider - Create subpackages for libcollection, libini_config, libdhash and librefarray - Support IPv6 - Support LDAP referrals - Fix cache issues - Better feedback from PAM when offline * Wed Feb 24 2010 Stephen Gallagehr - 1.0.5-2 - Rebuild against new libtevent On 64bit system it seems to be pulling in 686 packages... pdating: sssd x86_64 1.1.1-1.fc13 updates-testing 885 k sssd-clientx86_64 1.1.1-1.fc13 updates-testing 36 k Installing for dependencies: glibc i686 2.11.90-16 fedora 4.4 M libcollection i686 0.4.0-1.fc13 updates-testing 40 k libdhash i686 0.4.0-1.fc13 updates-testing 28 k libini_config i686 0.4.0-1.fc13 updates-testing 32 k nss-softokn-freebl i686 3.12.4-15.fc13 fedora 110 k -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 13 Beta Slip 1 week
On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 08:46 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > I fully agree with not pushing things to stable unless they go towards > stabilising the beta but can we please resume pushes to testing. At > the moment there has been no pushes to testing and not having this for > another week massively eats into the ability of people to test other > not so critical parts of the upcoming release. I'm aware of at least > the final gnome and sugar releases that are awaiting in the wings. Believe Jesse mentioned earlier that due to not knowing what will disappear from stable when packages are released to testing, wont' be able to release the masses until he experiments to see what takes place. After getting RC out the door then might be able to test and see what happens. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Desktop layout comparison
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 19:38 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Mike Chambers wrote: > > > On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 18:54 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Mike Chambers wrote: > >> > >> > (Can KDM be installed with minimal deps and be used for that screen > >> > instead?) > >> > >> Yes (depends only on kdelibs). > > > > Hrm, is it called kdm? If so, it wanted 52 deps with it. > > Yes, kdm. kdelibs has a lot of deps itself, true. Would kdm and kdelibs (maybe kde-settings-kdm) with no deps work? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Desktop layout comparison
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 18:54 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Mike Chambers wrote: > > > (Can KDM be installed with minimal deps and be used for that screen > > instead?) > > Yes (depends only on kdelibs). Hrm, is it called kdm? If so, it wanted 52 deps with it. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Desktop layout comparison
I am a gnome user and since had to do a new install yesterday of F13, I decided to give KDE a try, as I hadn't installed it in few years. Well, I won't get into why I didn't stay in KDE, but I will tell you what I liked about the initial desktop look/feel. Actually, backup a tad and go to the KDM login window. I liked the transparency*ish* look that it had, and it blew gdm out of the water. (Can KDM be installed with minimal deps and be used for that screen instead?) I also really liked the transparency*ish* look that the desktop had as well. By that, I mean the panel or at least the way it and the desktop looked. I know there are probably some configs that you can change to make stuff transparent and all that, but just not the same. If you havcen't seen it in a while, maybe you should install kde and login once and see what it's like. I don't mean having one panel for this or that, or what icons and stuff exist, but just the look/colors of it is all. This is NOT a flame war starter or anything else (which is why I kept things out), just my thoughts on the kde desktop look compared to what gnome has now. Just liked it better and hoped maybe gnome could lean that way as well. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution trash folder
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 12:01 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 20:53 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > No checkmarks checked or unchecked that I could find. The only other > > explanation is if I did a clean setup (no backups) and see what that > > does. I might do that with a clean/new test user and see what > > happens. > > Hi, > try to run Evolution from console, and see what it says, if anything, in > time of deleting the message. > > One thing I do not understand from your description, when you delete > message (press a Del button), the message is marked as deleted and > either is removed from the message list or shown there with a strike out > font. It should be also visible in the account's Trash folder. Because > your Folder->Expunge does correct thing, then the message is marked as > deleted. Thus I guess your UI is not showing the right thing, does it do > at least one of the above mentioned? Maybe the index for a Trash folder > is corrupted for some reason; you can try to stop Evolution and move out > your ~/.evolution/mail/imap//folders.db file, but as it > contains all your account index, then the next start will take some > time, till it fills it again. Or you can drop only all Trash related > tables from there, but it's not as that easy to do. If something goes > wrong, then return the folders.db file back. Yes the message was indeed marked with a strike out font, but it was never sent to the trash folder. I did already remove my .evolution folder and restarted evolution again, and now the emails at least get moved to the trash folder when deleted. The only thing I see now, is when I close/exit evolution it doesn't automatically empty the trash folder, and it is set in my preferences to do it every time. Mike -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Evolution trash folder
On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 23:44 +0100, Thomas Spura wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 21.03.2010, 07:44 -0500 schrieb Mike Chambers: > > On a brand new F13 install using yesterday's images/packages, and using > > evolution and imap, I noticed that when deleting emails, they aren't > > going to the trash folder. I understand that they technically they are > > still there and just hidden until emptied or however that works. But > > anyway, the only way the deleted msgs are being removed is if I go to > > each folder and go to File/empty trash to get them gone. Actually this > > has been going on last couple versions I believe, cant' remember when it > > started. > > > > Anyone else seeing this? > > I installed F12β and upgraded a week ago or so to F13. I remember > something like this has once happened here, but after a restart of > evolution everything was working again. > > I never saw this again since then (also not now with: > evolution-2.29.91-1.fc13.x86_64). Maybe there is a checkbox for that > anywhere? (Just quessing and asking in the wild ;)) No checkmarks checked or unchecked that I could find. The only other explanation is if I did a clean setup (no backups) and see what that does. I might do that with a clean/new test user and see what happens. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Evolution trash folder
On a brand new F13 install using yesterday's images/packages, and using evolution and imap, I noticed that when deleting emails, they aren't going to the trash folder. I understand that they technically they are still there and just hidden until emptied or however that works. But anyway, the only way the deleted msgs are being removed is if I go to each folder and go to File/empty trash to get them gone. Actually this has been going on last couple versions I believe, cant' remember when it started. Anyone else seeing this? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 23:41 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > You don't see a problem with breaking someone's application just because > they've installed an update to a stable release of Fedora? It's > obviously fine to do so when upgrading between releases, but within a > release it's just gratuitously irritating. On F13, upgrade gnome-panel to version in updates-testing and you'll get panel crashes almost immediately when tryign to start an application or just logout of gnome. Soo, if we were using rawhide, almost every gnome user would be having crashes soon as they upgrade (minus the ones that watch for breakage first before they upgrade). Anyway, perfect example to test first (cuz maintainer might have accidentily missed something), and not just update straight to the branch. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Gnome panel
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 15:20 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 17:10 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > Anyone having any issues with the latest gnome-panel update that has > > come out in last day or two? As in, when trying to log out the panel > > just crashes and resets itself? Went back to last gnome good panel but > > that one has issues when running with the rest of the gnome updates. > > I've had it crash a few times today, yeah. Filed a bug on one > occurrence. Looks like new build being compiled, but saw on koji that it failed. Hope it's a fix. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Gnome panel
Anyone having any issues with the latest gnome-panel update that has come out in last day or two? As in, when trying to log out the panel just crashes and resets itself? Went back to last gnome good panel but that one has issues when running with the rest of the gnome updates. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Hard drive spec change
Hadn't seen this discussed yet (not really a big hardware geek), and just saw an article about this today. Are we (linux as a whole) ready for this or getting ready, or already using it? And If we bought a new hd, via sata in my case within past year or newer computer in past year, are we using the new 4kb sectors now or just able to handle it? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2361156,00.asp -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Expect more positive bodhi karma / check karma automatism
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:19 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > If you know which pkgs you've installed that were from updates-testing you > can run: > > > yumdb set from_repo updates-testing pkg_name > > and that should do it. Yes, that fixed it. So the name has to be "updates-testing" in the repo for it to work. Guess I can see how that would be the case, unless it checked the packages and compared to the repo on the internet or something, but that would take way too long. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Expect more positive bodhi karma / check karma automatism
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 14:06 +0100, Thomas Spura wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 09.03.2010, 07:50 -0500 schrieb Stephen Gallagher: > > On 03/06/2010 05:21 PM, Till Maas wrote: > > > [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Easy_Karma > > > > > > Given the obvious utility of this script, can we get it added to the > > fedora-packager package? It doesn't make a lot of sense to have > > developers downloading a script off a wiki to use this. > > This is already in its own package: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/fedora-easy-karma Should this script still work if you mirror the updates-testing path and use your local disk for upgrades? Cause that is what I do and it don't do nothing for me. [m...@scrappy Downloads]$ ./fedora-easy-karma.py Adding en_US to language list [m...@scrappy Downloads]$ NO menus, or anything. And this only updating partially, or everything from updates-testing. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Upcoming Bugzilla Changes
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 22:53 -0500, TK009 wrote: > We will be automatically changing the version all rawhide bugs to Fedora 13. > This will result in regular bugs reported against rawhide during the Fedora 13 > development cycle being changed to version ‘13' instead of their > current assignment, > ‘rawhide’. This is to align with the branching of Fedora 13 from > rawhide and to more > accurately tell where in the lineage of releases the bug was last reported. > > Note that this procedure does not apply to bugs that are against component > ‘Package Review’ or bugs that have the ‘FutureFeature’ or ‘Tracking’ > keywords set. > They will stay open as rawhide bugs indefinitely. Since rawhide is based now on F14, will the change/scripts make sure that if the bug reported is against F13 and not an F14 package? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F13 Alpha RC4 install note(s)
Noticed that the partitioning menu changed some and can be confusing, esp if doing a dual boot (win 7 and Fedora). A couple things I ran into, and not sure if bugs or just *how it works* Setup - 2 HD's, both sata, one has Windows and other has Fedora. 1 - During selection, chose just the HD (check marked) that I was gonna install onto, and that went fine. Cept, when got to the installing boot loader, it only gave me that hd choice of where to install boot loader and not the other which is the actual first drive (first selected to boot in bios). So the install went on, and when boot after it was finished, it wouldn't boot. 2 - During 2nd install, this time I chose both hd's to work on, the windows hd as storage (mounted only) device and the other as the install target. Install proceeded, but again the driver order didn't default to correct order as previous installs so grub not installed correctly again. 3 - During 3rd install, same as #2, cept this time I changed the drive order to Windows being 1st. Install proceeded as normal, and this time it booted, and all is well. Oh, and that default=0 option in grub.conf that is used can be confusion. When it booted and instead of grub menu/option, it just sat there with a cursor for few seconds (10 or so maybe, tad longer), then finally went to fedora logo screen during boot. So if not gonna change grub back to default few seconds, then there needs to be a heck of a lot smoother transition from bios/computer boot to linux booting (hope that made sense) and a lot less waiting. Or at least a small fedora logo or something to kill that few second wait or something. Oh, and the font (on the menus during install) sucks LOL. Doesn't look no where near as big or as dark or something compared to the last few versions. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: gconf settings for gdm login
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 04:30 -0500, Jon Masters wrote: > Folks, > > What's up with the login screen on rawhide these days? It's defaulting > to no longer listing available users. I can see security sensitive > reasons for this, but it's a behavior change - is it intentional? Just a bug waiting to be squashed as far as I know. Was gonna send you the bug request but think your the one who reported it haha. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F13 Test path
updates/testing/13 (the 13 dir) does not yet exist, although sure it's on the list of things to do, or be created once a package has been built. Just an FYI... -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: rawhide report: 20100215 changes
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 03:10 +, Rawhide Report wrote: How will this type report work for rawhide (which am assuming same as now) and for F13 and beyond? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Name that Tree!
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 09:37 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: Of course, if wanna keep the "gold" name for the official release path, could rename other and use below.. bronze - current rawhide silver - current devel branch for next release gold - current officially released branch -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Name that Tree!
On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 15:35 +0100, Robin Sonefors wrote: > Now, from my experience in the Ubuntu community, nobody actually > understands this, while a significantly higher percentage of Ubuntu > users knows what Debian's stable/testing/unstable means. I think this > suggests that the Debian model works better. Rawhide - Rawhide dir as we know it Tanning - Devel branch for next release, in this case 13 Leather - Official release path, in this case, 12. That's the basic process of creating leather, so why not go with it (minus leather if want to)? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: rawhide report: 20100213 changes
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 19:44 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:35:53AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 09:27:59 -0800, > > darrell pfeifer wrote: > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=562514 > > > > > > You may have to edit you grub.conf. Look for missing lines compared to > > > working stanzas. > > > > That might not be the problem here. I am getting the initrd lines added > > now when I install new kernels. And when you have this problem an obvious > > error messages is displayed (at least when you have grub set to let you > > see what's happening when you boot). > > Please double-check initrd paths. Mine had superflous "/boot" in them. > As I have separate /boot partitions, grub.conf should have just > "initrd /initrams-...", without "/boot/". Had checked my grub.conf but evidently not close enough. Mine did have the extra /boot path as well and taking that out let it boot and my nouveau works now, so far. So all is well and even better now. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: rawhide report: 20100213 changes
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 17:00 +, Rawhide Report wrote: > kernel-2.6.33-0.44.rc8.git0.fc13 > > * Fri Feb 12 2010 Chuck Ebbert 2.6.33-0.44.rc8 > - 2.6.33-rc8 > > * Fri Feb 12 2010 Chuck Ebbert > 2.6.33-0.43.rc7.git6 > - 2.6.33-rc7-git6 > > * Thu Feb 11 2010 Chuck Ebbert > 2.6.33-0.42.rc7.git5 > - 2.6.33-rc7-git5 > - Drop merged patches: > fix-conntrack-bug-with-namespaces.patch > commit ad60a9154887bb6162e427b0969fefd2f34e94a6 from > git-bluetooth.patch > > * Mon Feb 08 2010 Josh Boyer > - Drop ppc ps3_storage and imac-transparent bridge patches Anyone else having problems getting this kernel (even the .40 before it) to get anywhere past the grub menu, much less boot? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Name that Tree!
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:11 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 07:36 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > > rawhide - packages for rawhide dir > > testing - packages for current development release going to testing > > stable - packages for current development release going to main dir > > release - packages for current officially released already gold dir > > Right, this is the Debian naming. The problem is that we have testing > for releases too, and that gets a tag confusing if you just talk about > "testing". Haha, DOH!! Forgot bout that. How bout... rawhide - rawhide next release dir ondeck - devel release for testing staging - devel release for main dir testing - testing for official release stable - official release main dir -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Name that Tree!
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors, > pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things > that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We > don't yet have a clever name for this concept yet, and we've just been > calling it "Pending". > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_frozen_rawhide_announce_plan#Tree.2FRepo_Overview > > Want to help us come up with a term we could use to reference this tree? > Email away! Actually got one for the whole thing... rawhide - packages for rawhide dir testing - packages for current development release going to testing stable - packages for current development release going to main dir release - packages for current officially released already gold dir -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F13 with nvidia card/nouveau driver
Anyone with this type setup tried upgrading via yum from F12 to F13 and got the graphics to work, even as of yesterday? Seems the last few weeks I can't get it working at all. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: No Frozen Rawhide coming soon! New paths on mirrors!
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 09:07 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > /pub/fedora/linux/development/13/ will become the new path of the > branched Fedora 13 content. This is where builds from the F-13/ branch > in CVS will go, after they pass through bodhi as "stable". So let's take above directory layout. So if I normally mirror rawhide, is the above dir what I would want to change to, to follow f13 devel and where the normal everyday package updates (stable ones I mean suspect?) would happen that are geared for F13? So this dir will also contain the night builds (isos?) as well as the boot.iso/whateverelse images from the /images dir are created here nightly and can be installed from like rawhide used to be during each cycle? > > /pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/13/ will be where potential Fedora 13 > builds go after passing through bodhi as "testing". This is where > you'll find the latest stuff proposed for freeze break and where testing > and peer review of these freeze breaks will happen. When a maintainer > feels enough testing has happened, or enough karma triggers the bodhi > auto request, the build will be marked "stable" and show up in the > development/13 tree at the next nightly compose. So the above dir, would be used like official releases are done, via package updates go to testing first, then when feel stable (or however long it goes), they move to the devel/13 dir in the 1st paragraph? And test images are created here as well? Guess shall try to summarize what is happening to make sure understanding what is happening... 1 - Rawhide dir is same, cept at feature freeze it moves on to the next future fedora version. 2 - Devel Feature Freeze branch (at feature freeze), that stable packages/builds are built each day, for the current version being worked on? And also a testing devel feature freeze branch for testing packages/builds for problems before they hit stable? 3 - Official release branch, currently as is for the officially released versions, to include stable and testing updates. If above is correct or at least if not worded right but I am understanding at least, then have a question or two, but not to argue, but to understand why or the underlying part to it. Why couldn't rawhide just be the stable part and just add a testing dir to it? Do the maintainers multitask that much to work on updates for official releases, develop a new release, and start work on the next release? >From just a user/tester perspective, seems a bit much and too many paths to follow and keep up with. But hey, if you devel guys/maintainers are all bout it, whom I to judge? haha. Anyway, just asking and clarifying (guess you can call this *follow up*) what is going on, in laymen terms? LOL (hrm, think I just confused the hell outta myself and maybe others) -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 18:20 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > I'm the one creating the "Fedora" product, the DVD that gets so many > downloads, and the thing that gets network installed. I have no idea > what the vision is for it, because I have no guidance. I'm just making > it up as I go, continuing to take what was Red Hat Linux and Fedora Core > and trimming it as necessary to fit on a DVD. I would call what your actually doing, to be a "fedora" vision as a whole or in general. That is what I would consider to be the basic overall vision of the fedora project and the packages that are currently included (not the DVD you create, but the rawhide or F-x directory that exists as an official release). And what I believe everyone else (guess spelling this out for either you, or whomever might not understand yet) is talking about, is taking all those packages that you have had built (via koji, moch, pungi, etc..) and putting them into spins and having them work like that. But to do that, and to know exactly what that spin needs to have, is the argument of who needs to decide what the audience is for that spin so they know how to build that spin. And the further argument (or the one that started it all) is if one spin has a package that is built one way, but needs to be changed so that spin works, but another spin also needs that package but needs it built this way (and the two ways collide) and therein lies the problem. My 2 cents, is choices can be good, but too many and they become confusing and/or problems and you spread yourself way too thin. You work on so many, that you have lots of OK things. But if you limit your choices to just a few, then you have a few *great* things because you can concentrate more on the fewer choices. Anyway, prolly screwed this up so just delete it if it's terrible haha. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
