Re: Journal integration for Scratch
Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 04:50, Philipp Kocher philipp.koc...@gmx.net wrote: Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 18.12.2008, at 08:08, Philipp Kocher wrote: One more thing, the scratch icon is not shown in the journal for files with the scratch mimetype. I think the file /usr/share/sugar/data/mime.defaults has to be adapted to include the scratch-mimetype. It just has to be listed in the activity bundle's info file: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#.info_File_Format - Bert - I added the mime_types attribute to the activities.info file and the icon attribute is set as well. But still the Scratch icon is not shown in the Journal (the default octet-stream icon is shown) even so the Scratch mime-type is set in the metadata file in the datastore. I think the problem is connected to the gtk theme (gtk-update-icon-cache and update-mime-database). e.g. etoys has file etoys.xml in /usr/share/mime/packages and probably the icon in the icon cache. How can I put the icon in the icon-cache? Hi, Sugar will put it there for you when the .xo bundle is installed. That means that if the activity bundle gets installed from outside Sugar, the mime db won't be updated. So, I would recommend you to uninstall Scratch from Sugar, then installing the .xo bundle by downloading it with Browse or by copying it into the journal from an usb stick. HTH, Tomeu Thanks for the input, but I wasn't successful. I tried the following: 1. Extracted the files of Scratch-12.xo 2. Added the line mime_types = application/x-scratch-project to the activity.info file 2. Created a new archive file Scratch-12_mime.xo with the change 3. Erased activity Scratch on the XO 4. Copied the file Scratch-12_mime.xo to the Journal 5. Started/Installed Scratch-12_mime.xo 6. Copied Scratch project to the Journal with copy-to-journal test.sb -m 'application/x-scratch-project' -t test.sb test.sb still has the standard icon and not the Scratch cat icon in the Journal. Which activity is using the mime db update feature? I would expect a new timestamp for the file /usr/share/mime/mime.cache after installing the activity. Can I execute the mime db update on the command line? Regards, Philipp ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Journal integration for Scratch
[adding sugar-devel to the cc list] On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 09:42, Philipp Kocher philipp.koc...@gmx.net wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 04:50, Philipp Kocher philipp.koc...@gmx.net wrote: Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 18.12.2008, at 08:08, Philipp Kocher wrote: One more thing, the scratch icon is not shown in the journal for files with the scratch mimetype. I think the file /usr/share/sugar/data/mime.defaults has to be adapted to include the scratch-mimetype. It just has to be listed in the activity bundle's info file: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#.info_File_Format - Bert - I added the mime_types attribute to the activities.info file and the icon attribute is set as well. But still the Scratch icon is not shown in the Journal (the default octet-stream icon is shown) even so the Scratch mime-type is set in the metadata file in the datastore. I think the problem is connected to the gtk theme (gtk-update-icon-cache and update-mime-database). e.g. etoys has file etoys.xml in /usr/share/mime/packages and probably the icon in the icon cache. How can I put the icon in the icon-cache? Hi, Sugar will put it there for you when the .xo bundle is installed. That means that if the activity bundle gets installed from outside Sugar, the mime db won't be updated. So, I would recommend you to uninstall Scratch from Sugar, then installing the .xo bundle by downloading it with Browse or by copying it into the journal from an usb stick. HTH, Tomeu Thanks for the input, but I wasn't successful. I tried the following: 1. Extracted the files of Scratch-12.xo 2. Added the line mime_types = application/x-scratch-project to the activity.info file 2. Created a new archive file Scratch-12_mime.xo with the change 3. Erased activity Scratch on the XO 4. Copied the file Scratch-12_mime.xo to the Journal 5. Started/Installed Scratch-12_mime.xo 6. Copied Scratch project to the Journal with copy-to-journal test.sb -m 'application/x-scratch-project' -t test.sb Ok, what you just did will tell Sugar that Scratch is able to open files with the mime type 'application/x-scratch-project'. But this will not affect the icon of those files. test.sb still has the standard icon and not the Scratch cat icon in the Journal. Which activity is using the mime db update feature? Don't know myself :/ I would expect a new timestamp for the file /usr/share/mime/mime.cache after installing the activity. Well, activities are installed by a normal user so that file won't be modified. Instead, the cache will live in ~/.local/share/mime Can I execute the mime db update on the command line? Yes: update-mime-database ~/.local/share/mime If you want to get the details and fully understand how this is done, you can check this code: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/sugar/bundle/activitybundle.py#line318 That gets executed when a bundle is unpacked and registered in the shell. As you can see, if a file activity/mimetypes.xml is found in the exploded dir, a symlink will be made to this file form the mime dir and the updater script will be run. HTH, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: child protection + anti-cheating
This exists in http://italc.sourceforge.net/home.php On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: Something I hope will end up in Sugar someday are more classroom management tools. Maine's Apple-based classroom laptop system gives the teacher the ability to remotely watch the screens of all the kids in the room. No need to stand at the back of the classroom. Just the knowledge that the teacher is capable of doing this is usually enough to keep kids from IMing answers to each other. Perhaps a 'Classroom' activity will make it onto the AT proposals list :) -Wade On 1/10/09, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: How do we prevent cheating between students? You can't prevent this. Exactly. I've been working with online tools for education for ~8 years now, and it's interesting to note - paper+pen technology does not prevent cheating either. A few times I've been confronted with this cannot possibly be used in education until there is no way of cheating with it, ignoring that books, pen and paper are *great* for cheating. And also for smuggling questionable printed materials into school too -- books and folders can hide magazines with porn or political manifestos. Ban paper, put anyone who owns a printer in jail :-) cheers, martin -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Don't think for a minute that power concedes. We have to work like our future depends on it. -- Barack Obama ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS L10n
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: Just out of curiousity. Are the UI strings in the XS builds beginning to stabilize to the point that it might make sense to create a POT file for the localization community to start working on? (Chris - your question is very good, timely and relevant, so CC'ing server-devel, hope that's ok) There are 2 parts that may be localised... - The commandline tools - low priority, only exposed to the sysadmin team that manages the deployment. They have to be unix/linux geeks anyway... - The XS UI: Moodle. This is what's worthwhile translating. We'll use Moodle with a couple of customisations. The customisations are still evolving but Moodle's strings are well established. The problem is that it doesn't use Pootle, it uses its own translation strings stuff. I've been discussing this... see Some discussion on Moodle.org (use the login-as-guest button) http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=93360 Discussion on server-devel http://www.mail-archive.com/server-de...@lists.laptop.org/msg01419.html Look for 'pootle' in this irc meeting log http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Conf_08_MAR_25_Notes Googling right now, I see someone has a pootle-to-moodle translation tool, w00t!? http://osdir.com/ml/misc.translate.devel/2007-07/msg00018.html cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Journal integration for Scratch
On 12.01.2009, at 10:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Ok, what you just did will tell Sugar that Scratch is able to open files with the mime type 'application/x-scratch-project'. But this will not affect the icon of those files. Is there a way to assign icons for files other than by saving it in an activity? - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Journal integration for Scratch
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 16:52, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 10:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Ok, what you just did will tell Sugar that Scratch is able to open files with the mime type 'application/x-scratch-project'. But this will not affect the icon of those files. Is there a way to assign icons for files other than by saving it in an activity? Currently, only by changing the mime-type. Regards, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch
This is something I've briefly discussed with Marco in the past. It seems a natural extension of the idea of objects as first class citizens of Sugar to allow those objects to have custom icons and identities. Right now, we have no such support. The most natural way (at least for me, as a Mac user) to visualize this idea is in the form of type/creator associations, by which an object would be assigned the icon for type t as defined by its creator c. This scheme is nice because it makes the effort on the part of activities rather simple (most importantly, static): define your set of icons and the mime-types the represent within your activity bundle, and the system will always apply the correct icons. However, it seems this can't work for Sugar. I suppose we could simply allow an activity to assign an icon to a given object at will, as you mention. It might be the best way to achieve a similar effect, albeit with more effort on the part of activities. - Eben On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 10:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Ok, what you just did will tell Sugar that Scratch is able to open files with the mime type 'application/x-scratch-project'. But this will not affect the icon of those files. Is there a way to assign icons for files other than by saving it in an activity? - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Journal integration for Scratch
On 12.01.2009, at 17:03, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 16:52, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 10:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Ok, what you just did will tell Sugar that Scratch is able to open files with the mime type 'application/x-scratch-project'. But this will not affect the icon of those files. Is there a way to assign icons for files other than by saving it in an activity? Currently, only by changing the mime-type. Maybe I misunderstood then. How is the icon for a mime type such as application/x-scratch-project found then? - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Journal integration for Scratch
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 17:38, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On 12.01.2009, at 17:03, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 16:52, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de
wrote:
On 12.01.2009, at 10:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
Ok, what you just did will tell Sugar that Scratch is able to open
files with the mime type 'application/x-scratch-project'. But this
will not affect the icon of those files.
Is there a way to assign icons for files other than by saving it in an
activity?
Currently, only by changing the mime-type.
Maybe I misunderstood then. How is the icon for a mime type such as
application/x-scratch-project found then?
We are using the xdg mime database, the mimetypes.xml file contained
in activities is added to that database. So that's the mechanism
through which activities can associate icons to mime types.
In a python shell inside strace -e open:
gio.content_type_get_icon('image/png')
open(/home/tomeu/.local/share//mime/mime.cache, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
open(/home/tomeu/sugar-jhbuild/install/share/mime/mime.cache,
O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
open(/usr/share/mime/mime.cache, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
open(/usr/local/share//mime/aliases, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/local/share//mime/subclasses, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/local/share//mime/icons, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open(/usr/local/share//mime/generic-icons, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) =
-1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share//mime/mime.cache, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
open(/usr/share/gdm//mime/aliases, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/gdm//mime/subclasses, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/gdm//mime/icons, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/gdm//mime/generic-icons, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
gio.ThemedIcon at 0xb7de8c84: image-png, gnome-mime-image-png, image-x-generic
Regards,
Tomeu
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Re: Journal integration for Scratch
On 12.01.2009, at 17:55, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 17:38, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 17:03, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 16:52, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 10:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Ok, what you just did will tell Sugar that Scratch is able to open files with the mime type 'application/x-scratch-project'. But this will not affect the icon of those files. Is there a way to assign icons for files other than by saving it in an activity? Currently, only by changing the mime-type. Maybe I misunderstood then. How is the icon for a mime type such as application/x-scratch-project found then? We are using the xdg mime database, the mimetypes.xml file contained in activities is added to that database. So that's the mechanism through which activities can associate icons to mime types. So what would the Scratch activity have to do so files put into the Journal (maybe by downloading) are displayed using a Scratch icon rather than the generic document icon? - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Journal integration for Scratch
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 18:07, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 17:55, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 17:38, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 17:03, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 16:52, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 10:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Ok, what you just did will tell Sugar that Scratch is able to open files with the mime type 'application/x-scratch-project'. But this will not affect the icon of those files. Is there a way to assign icons for files other than by saving it in an activity? Currently, only by changing the mime-type. Maybe I misunderstood then. How is the icon for a mime type such as application/x-scratch-project found then? We are using the xdg mime database, the mimetypes.xml file contained in activities is added to that database. So that's the mechanism through which activities can associate icons to mime types. So what would the Scratch activity have to do so files put into the Journal (maybe by downloading) are displayed using a Scratch icon rather than the generic document icon? Shipping a mimetypes.xml file inside the bundle as explained here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#Bundle_Structure Sugar will call update-mime-database and will merge that file into the xdg mime database. I think that John is already trying this. Regards, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 18:07, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 17:55, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 17:38, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 17:03, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 16:52, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 10:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Ok, what you just did will tell Sugar that Scratch is able to open files with the mime type 'application/x-scratch-project'. But this will not affect the icon of those files. Is there a way to assign icons for files other than by saving it in an activity? Currently, only by changing the mime-type. Maybe I misunderstood then. How is the icon for a mime type such as application/x-scratch-project found then? We are using the xdg mime database, the mimetypes.xml file contained in activities is added to that database. So that's the mechanism through which activities can associate icons to mime types. So what would the Scratch activity have to do so files put into the Journal (maybe by downloading) are displayed using a Scratch icon rather than the generic document icon? Shipping a mimetypes.xml file inside the bundle as explained here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#Bundle_Structure Sugar will call update-mime-database and will merge that file into the xdg mime database. What does this merge do with conflicts? It seems we might need a way for the most recent activity which has used a given object to apply its own icon for it, which isn't covered by this case. Would the most recently installed activity trump the rest? - Eben I think that John is already trying this. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 18:16, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 18:07, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 17:55, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 17:38, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 17:03, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 16:52, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 10:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Ok, what you just did will tell Sugar that Scratch is able to open files with the mime type 'application/x-scratch-project'. But this will not affect the icon of those files. Is there a way to assign icons for files other than by saving it in an activity? Currently, only by changing the mime-type. Maybe I misunderstood then. How is the icon for a mime type such as application/x-scratch-project found then? We are using the xdg mime database, the mimetypes.xml file contained in activities is added to that database. So that's the mechanism through which activities can associate icons to mime types. So what would the Scratch activity have to do so files put into the Journal (maybe by downloading) are displayed using a Scratch icon rather than the generic document icon? Shipping a mimetypes.xml file inside the bundle as explained here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#Bundle_Structure Sugar will call update-mime-database and will merge that file into the xdg mime database. What does this merge do with conflicts? It seems we might need a way for the most recent activity which has used a given object to apply its own icon for it, which isn't covered by this case. Would the most recently installed activity trump the rest? Not sure about what we can do regarding this while not having to cook our own mime info stuff. This is the spec implemented by the tools we are using: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/shared-mime-info-spec Regards, Tomeu - Eben I think that John is already trying this. Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Journal integration for Scratch
On 12.01.2009, at 18:11, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: So what would the Scratch activity have to do so files put into the Journal (maybe by downloading) are displayed using a Scratch icon rather than the generic document icon? Shipping a mimetypes.xml file inside the bundle as explained here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#Bundle_Structure Sugar will call update-mime-database and will merge that file into the xdg mime database. I think that John is already trying this. Guess I'm confused then - I thought that's exactly what Philipp had done. And I just checked and it does work with Etoys projects. When downloading one it indeed gets an etoys icon (although at a smaller size - why is that?) - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
XOCamp 2, Day 1 update
Dear all, We're in the middle of day 1 of XOCamp. You can take part in a few ways; we are * streaming over the web at justin.tv (search for xocamp and olpc), * on an call-in conference line (see the wiki page for details) * on IRC in the #olpc channel on freenode.net. For those without irc clients, you can use your browser: visit http://forum.laptop.org/chat to open #olpc-help, then type /join #olpc For the current week's agenda, and slides for many talks, please see: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOCamp_2 We have a few sessions of open hacking, and are glad to include new brief sessions or discussion topics; we can also present slides for you if you can't do it in person / want to engage remotely. Finally, we are archiving the conference media and transcripts; if you have general questions about OLPC, our communities and deployments, getting involved, or Sugar and hardware development, feel free to ask them on the event's talk page and we will make sure your questions get answered. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:XOCamp_2 Regards, SJ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Journal integration for Scratch
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 18:50, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 18:11, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: So what would the Scratch activity have to do so files put into the Journal (maybe by downloading) are displayed using a Scratch icon rather than the generic document icon? Shipping a mimetypes.xml file inside the bundle as explained here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#Bundle_Structure Sugar will call update-mime-database and will merge that file into the xdg mime database. I think that John is already trying this. Guess I'm confused then - I thought that's exactly what Philipp had done. I think he just changed the mime_types field in the .info file. And I just checked and it does work with Etoys projects. When downloading one it indeed gets an etoys icon (although at a smaller size - why is that?) No idea, though I think that the mime database is updated in the etoys rpm and not in the bundle, am I right? Regards, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
About to start talking with Ed about QA - join on IRC, review notes, etc.
About to have Big Conversation with Ed about Community QA moving forward, and I think I've finished my Big Braindump at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOCamp_2#QA - review appreciated! The IRC backchannel is #olpc in case you want to join in, I'll try to get someone to transcribe since I'll likely be in the middle of a lot of this discussion. Please holler if any of this or any of the resources I've linked to are unclear (I'm writing this a bit frantically at the last moment so my coherence is potentially dubious.) --Mel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 19:30, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: And I just checked and it does work with Etoys projects. When downloading one it indeed gets an etoys icon (although at a smaller size - why is that?) No idea, though I think that the mime database is updated in the etoys rpm and not in the bundle, am I right? Yes. Though I can't imagine how that would affect the icon size: Or is it intentional? Definitely not intentional. - Eben - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Desktop on XO
Here is an image builder which makes Fedora 10-based desktop images for the XO. They use XFCE. Currently there is at least one outstanding bug, which is that network manager applet won't start because of security configuration problems with consolekit. http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/erik/rpmxo On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Dienstag, den 06.01.2009, 17:31 -0500 schrieb Erik Garrison: On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 10:54:24PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 06.01.2009, at 22:34, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Carlos Nazareno wrote: Guys, maybe this can help. I whipped up a flash CPU benchmarking tool Currently, we are assuming that the issue will be RAM consumption, not CPU. I personally have no reason to expect either system to behave differently in terms of background CPU overhead or cost of common operations. At 25c3 I bumped into a guy from LXDE. It's said to be a lot lighter on resources than even XFCE. Unfortunately I did not stay long enough to see it run on the XO, but maybe someone else did already? Yes. AFAICS it runs nice and very fast, although/because it is not feature complete as Gnome or Xfce. My impression from playing around with it is that it's significantly less polished than Gnome or XFCE. Polish takes time, users, and development... it just seems that LXDE hasn't had enough yet. You can just look at the age of the projects: GNOME 1999-03-03 (initial release) XFCE 1996 (project start date) LXDE 2006 (initial release) This is only partly true since a lot of the LXDE components are older, for example lxpanel, pcmanfm and openbox. [dates pulled from Wikipedia] As far as I know all these projects have been under development continuously since their inception. Two, GNOME and XFCE, have had extremely large user bases. It does not seem that LXDE has. The Xfce user base is not that large as one might think. On the other hand LXDE is very popular in Asia, for example in Taiwan. In Brasil several vendors offer netbooks with LXDE and Mandriva preinstalled. Erik Regards, Christoph (Fedora package maintainer for both Xfce and LXDE) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
QA talk with Ed postponed to 15:30EST (42 minutes from now)
This just in: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOCamp_2#QA is slated for 42 minutes from now, at 3:30pm EST. It will be 45 minutes; the double whammy of keep meetings on track skillz of Ed and Mel will make sure of that. ;) Please join us! #olpc, agenda at the link above; add questions, etc. - and we could *really* use a volunteer to be the IRC-to-1cc link, if you're interested (best: if you're not intensely interested in the discussion but want to be of great help in a few minutes - that way you can focus on this and the participants can focus on talking.) --Mel Mel Chua wrote: About to have Big Conversation with Ed about Community QA moving forward, and I think I've finished my Big Braindump at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOCamp_2#QA - review appreciated! The IRC backchannel is #olpc in case you want to join in, I'll try to get someone to transcribe since I'll likely be in the middle of a lot of this discussion. Please holler if any of this or any of the resources I've linked to are unclear (I'm writing this a bit frantically at the last moment so my coherence is potentially dubious.) --Mel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Nand blaster with 30 XOs
Mitch, Nandblaster is a blast! We updated 29 XOs in less than 30 minutes (most in less than 20 minutes). Just one XO froze (two times), but this unit seems problematic anyway. I am attaching the stats for the other 28. There is a minor caveat (that is not actually related to the nandblaster): Once you finish updating the XO that will be replicated it woud be useful to put it in a state such that the XO-name and color will be asked again after boot (otherwise you finsh with a lot of xos with the same name and color). It is probably a matter of removing a file. Cheers! Ricardo nandblaster_29-Xos.csv Description: Binary data ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Nand blaster with 30 XOs
ricardo wrote: Mitch, Nandblaster is a blast! We updated 29 XOs in less than 30 minutes (most in less than 20 minutes). neat. Just one XO froze (two times), but this unit seems problematic anyway. I am attaching the stats for the other 28. There is a minor caveat (that is not actually related to the nandblaster): Once you finish updating the XO that will be replicated it woud be useful to put it in a state such that the XO-name and color will be asked again after boot (otherwise you finsh with a lot of xos with the same name and color). It is probably a matter of removing a file. if you've booted the XO, there's more than that that's been cloned which might be a problem. (ssh host key, for example.) you should really nandblast images that haven't been booted. (erikg: did you finish your audit of what exactly gets changed?) paul =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS L10n
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: Just out of curiousity. Are the UI strings in the XS builds beginning to stabilize to the point that it might make sense to create a POT file for the localization community to start working on? (Chris - your question is very good, timely and relevant, so CC'ing server-devel, hope that's ok) There are 2 parts that may be localised... - The commandline tools - low priority, only exposed to the sysadmin team that manages the deployment. They have to be unix/linux geeks anyway... - The XS UI: Moodle. This is what's worthwhile translating. We'll use Moodle with a couple of customisations. The customisations are still evolving but Moodle's strings are well established. The problem is that it doesn't use Pootle, it uses its own translation strings stuff. I've been discussing this... see Some discussion on Moodle.org (use the login-as-guest button) http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=93360 Discussion on server-devel http://www.mail-archive.com/server-de...@lists.laptop.org/msg01419.html Look for 'pootle' in this irc meeting log http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Conf_08_MAR_25_Notes Googling right now, I see someone has a pootle-to-moodle translation tool, w00t!? http://osdir.com/ml/misc.translate.devel/2007-07/msg00018.html Martin, I think the magic that will be needed to address the Moodle PHP files is going to be: php2po (and po2php) from the Translate toolkit. http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/php2po cjl ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: child protection + anti-cheating
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote: This exists in http://italc.sourceforge.net/home.php Coolness! Can someone wikify all these software solutions discussed in the thread? We should make a resource list of all these things. I'd like to, but I'm catching up with a lot of work backlog and am not very good with editing wikis yet. Best, -Naz -- Carlos Nazareno http://twitter.com/naz404 http://www.object404.com -- interactive media specialist zen graffiti studios http://www.zengraffiti.com -- User Group Manager Phlashers: Philippine Flash ActionScripters Adobe Flash/Flex User Group http://www.phlashers.com -- if you don't like the way the world is running, then change it instead of just complaining. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: goodbye olpc (jobs available)
I'm sorry to see some familiar names gone from this list. My G1G1 XO is sad today. But hopefully a brighter for those recently laid off: my company, GenArts, is also hiring. We make high-end special effects software for movies and TV (www.genarts.com). We are between Central and Harvard squares on Mass Ave in Cambridge, which may be a draw for some folks on this list. We are looking for a QA/Release Engineer; a programmer with GPGPU and image-processing experience; and an experienced web application developer with Ruby and strong C++ coding skills. Please respond to j...@genarts.com, and if you'd like to forward this to folks who may already be gone from the devel list, please feel free to do so. -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gary Oberbrunnerga...@genarts.com GenArts, Inc. Tel: 617-492-2888 955 Mass. Ave Fax: 617-492-2852 Cambridge, MA 02139 USA www.genarts.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Nand blaster with 30 XOs
Hi Paul, Just one XO froze (two times), but this unit seems problematic anyway. I am attaching the stats for the other 28. There is a minor caveat (that is not actually related to the nandblaster): Once you finish updating the XO that will be replicated it woud be useful to put it in a state such that the XO-name and color will be asked again after boot (otherwise you finsh with a lot of xos with the same name and color). It is probably a matter of removing a file. if you've booted the XO, there's more than that that's been cloned which might be a problem. (ssh host key, for example.) you should really nandblast images that haven't been booted. (erikg: did you finish your audit of what exactly gets changed?) True. I was so anxious to use the method that I didn't pay much attention to that. But If we don't boot the XO before the copying we'll lost the opportunity to add some stuff. If erikg has such a list, and we can revert some things, that would be awesome! Cheers! Ricardo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
What keeps me going...
So, a lot of people have been asking me this lately in the OLPC context. What keeps you going? Of course, this question has been asked by different people with different intentions. Some are genuinely surprised that I have so much free time, while others suspect a hidden treasure. So, I decided to shoot off this e-mail to the lists for two reasons. One, I am not sure which list is appropriate, and two, I think many of us do question the merits of this project from time to time, and I want to share my sentiments with you all. Feel free to delete if you don't like it. During my visit to India a long time friend asked me this question. What keeps you going with a project like this? He wanted to know where I got all this free time from. Well, the assumption is a bit off. A lot of the time I put into the project aligns with my profession as well. Sustainable IT, network infrastructure, software development, collaboration, etc. are all parts of my research stream. so is FOSS development, adoption and use. So, finding time isn't that much of a stretch. Its a two way street. I am able to bring these things into my classroom and into my research. Of course, without support from my family, this would be extremely difficult. For instance, when I am off, gallivanting in Jamaica and working on a pilot there, my wife has to cover for me and she does so with a lot of effort, but we think its all for a good cause. We hope some of this will make a difference in the lives of communities there. Others, such as some of my students, have asked me the same question but with a little wink wink glint in their eye. They think there is something ulterior or somehow I am getting paid or I am bucking the system (wonder where they got that idea from). Getting across the volunteer ethic is very hard. Either you get it or you don't. Of course, volunteer-ism is driven by many things including ego, fame, and little green laptops. It is also driven by a desire to make a difference in the system. Sometimes the system doesn't want that change, but we still push for it. But that's another e-mail. Then there are some of us who have an addictive desire to take things apart. You know who I'm taking about! Take apart and put back together things that most people would leave untouched. People who subscribe to Make magazine or own a soldering iron would know. Its a strange itch, but its an ethic that brings people together. Its hard to explain these things to people who've never opened a radio, or a watch. On the other hand, if you are the Maker type, you would instantly know. We were surprised at the courage of attendees at the December OLPC-SF meeting. They took their XOs apart and put them back together. Well, most of us did. Only Robert needed some help from a 7 year old attendee :-) (Sorry Robert. Couldn't resist!) I think its a lot of these reasons that keep us all together in this project and its offshoots, but one experience has captured my enthusiasm unlike any other. This was a trip to Khairat, India's first pilot site (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Khairat_school). I had seen pictures, and even videos and news clips of Khairat. But driving out there with the folks from Reliance (the pilot partner) was a turning point. Seeing five year olds handling their XOs with ease was just amazing. Seeing them document their lives and showing me photos via the journal suddenly made a lot of sense. All discussions of a lack of a file manager were moot at that point. Rahul and Manisha sure don't need a file manager to show me what they did! They could care less about /etc or /usr/local/ I wish I could get the journal on my Ubuntu Thinkpad laptop. They had documented a tight rope walker who visited Khairat. They had documented Gandhi's birthday (2nd Oct) and showed me the photos. They didn't care that Sugar was slow. After all, for them to know that Sugar is slow, they would have to know something faster! They love their XOs and it shows. Then there is Mr. Surve, the teacher at Khairat. With very little training, this man gets his gang going. He's built solar system animations in e-toys and precipitation cycle in Paint. He has made his own lesson plans in Write and is constantly yelling in Marathi (local language) Go to the neighborhood. Join the mesh. Who woulda thunk it? In the middle-of-nowhere-Khairat, a teacher is yelling a his kids to join the mesh. A draft version of 802.11s has made it that far! Of course Rahul and Manisha don't know that. And they don't need to, because we have a team of do-gooders who take care of all that. And that's where my respect and unconditional support for this group comes from. I've met very few of you in person. But, my sentiments for this group as a whole are always equated with the joy that is now in the lives of kids like Rahul and Manisha. OLPC brings a level of hope that is rare in projects. Netbooks, while an offshoot of what OLPC has done, still fail to address key issues. They still have embedded Wi-Fi
Sad to see some folks leaving: jobs available
I'm sorry to see some familiar names gone from this list. My G1G1 XO is sad today. But hopefully a brighter for those recently laid off: my company, GenArts, is also hiring. We make high-end special effects software for movies and TV (www.genarts.com). We are between Central and Harvard squares on Mass Ave in Cambridge, which may be a draw for some folks on this list. We are looking for a QA/Release Engineer; a programmer with GPGPU and image-processing experience; and an experienced web application developer with Ruby and strong C++ coding skills. Please respond to j...@genarts.com, and if you'd like to forward this to folks who may already be gone from the devel list, please feel free to do so. -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gary Oberbrunnerga...@genarts.com GenArts, Inc. Tel: 617-492-2888 955 Mass. Ave Fax: 617-492-2852 Cambridge, MA 02139 USA www.genarts.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: What keeps me going...
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Re: HTML-based/Browser apps (was Re: anti-cheating)
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:15 AM, S Page i...@skierpage.com wrote: Carlos Nazareno wrote: - I'd also like to see more work done on a method to easily bundle Gnash or HTML-based/Browser applications as stand-alone activities, or at least launch the browser with the wrapped activity loaded upon startup. See the Help activity in 8.2.0, it instantiates the WebView from hulahop that underlies Browse and points it at help/XO_Introduction.html. But is it so bad to make your HTML-based application an installable collection that shows up in the OLPC Library navigation on the Browse home page? See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_a_collection. Just because most library content is static non-interactive ebook material is no reason really cool browser apps shouldn't go in the OLPC Library. One thing that might make collections more appealing and feel like applications is if the collection's library.info icon (which seems otherwise unused?!) or the web site's favicon would appear in the Journal instead or as well as the generic globe icon of Browse. I filed a confused ticket #9188 for this enhancement. - Using a local daemon or service of some sort, the method I previously outlined can also be used here for standalone mode of the tests. This way, the learner can also practice with them and learn outside of class hours. The WikiBrowse activity (WikipediaEN.activity on G1G1 8.2 laptops) starts a local python Web server and fires up a WebActivity (Browse) instance pointing at it. Better, Browse's engine is XULRunner 1.9 and it has support for most of the HTML 5 offline application spec http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-html5-20080122/#offline. E.g. http://starkravingfinkle.org/projects/offline/todo.html is an expanding form you can fill out while offline that will update the web server when next online. It should work on an XO (I can't try it, my wireless router is bust! :-( ). I concur with where you're going. *Never* ever bet against the browser. Browse or a custom WebView activity can do everything that Firefox 3 can do, without worrying about compatibility with abysmal MS Internet Explorer that's keeping the web stuck in 2004. E.g. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/FindTheCountry -- why bother with crappy static PDF atlases when interactive technology like that is available? And you can View Source it! This is one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time!!! This is definitely going down in the SVG examples section for my class in Spring. Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora Desktop on XO
Am Montag, den 12.01.2009, 14:41 -0500 schrieb Erik Garrison: Here is an image builder which makes Fedora 10-based desktop images for the XO. They use XFCE. Currently there is at least one outstanding bug, which is that network manager applet won't start because of security configuration problems with consolekit. Is this bug still present in Fedora? Has it ever been? Have you filed a bug? Where can I find any details or what else can I do to help you? TIA, Christoph ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: HTML-based/Browser apps (was Re: anti-cheating)
Sameer Verma wrote: E.g. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/FindTheCountry -- why bother with crappy static PDF atlases when interactive technology like that is available? And you can View Source it! This is one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time!!! This is definitely going down in the SVG examples section for my class in Spring. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/SVG#Resources also lists * http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/samples/canvas.shtml is code to show/hide map layers. With advanced HTML you can imagine scalable interactive SVG maps, science texts with interactive JavaScript + canvas physics simulations (like the WIMS stuff but running in the browser), biology texts with layers that show and hide different anatomical systems... All with quiz modules that work offline and online. Unfortunately collaborative editing on wiki pages and Flossmanuals doesn't support that level of interactivity, and the people with skills to do it are rare. -- =S ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Nand blaster with 30 XOs
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:57:04PM -0500, Ian Daniher wrote: Something which would be nice to have is a publically accessible webroot with a clean os767 build, chown -R'ed 444(read-only for all) There's this: rsync rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-767/root/ Not web, and not 444, but useful all the same. For instance, say you wanted to know what the file /etc/ntpdate looked like on that build ... rsync -avPz rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-767/root/etc/sysconfig/ntpdate /tmp/ -- James Cameronmailto:qu...@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: HTML-based/Browser apps (was Re: anti-cheating)
the people with skills to do it are rare. The Flash Platform is the easiest way to do all of that. I haven't seen anything that can tie up interactive media as easy with scalable complexity like Flash has. Some early pioneers were John Maeda, Joshua Davis, Yugo Nakamura, Robert Hodgins, and Ze Frank. Back then, what you said was true, but today you only need look at the growing army of Flash game developers for starters. You can go with Processing (http://www.processing.org/) but Java is a bit problematic on the XO. Why put yourself through unnecessary pain with the HTML5/Javascript/CSS/SVG/whathaveyouforaudiovideowebcam combo? Add to that the added headache of the standards fragmented browser landscape. (whatever we develop for the XO re:OLPC goals, I hope we can bring to other platforms as well.) Why reinvent the wheel? Flash gets the job done, and gets it done easy. For those who have a problem with proprietary technology, there's always Gnash and SWFDec, and numerous open source tools to generate SWFs (including some that come directly from Adobe like the free Flex SDK). Use the best tool for the job, pending personal comfort zones and preferences. Get the job done, and get it done efficiently. Peace out -Naz -- Carlos Nazareno http://twitter.com/naz404 http://www.object404.com -- interactive media specialist zen graffiti studios http://www.zengraffiti.com -- User Group Manager Phlashers: Philippine Flash ActionScripters Adobe Flash/Flex User Group http://www.phlashers.com -- if you don't like the way the world is running, then change it instead of just complaining. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Grassroots-l] What keeps me going...
Hey, Well wriiten mail with lot of motivation and a whole new source of energy for every volunteer to work for . lets hope to join the missing dots all over and try to achieve all the tagets of this project. cheers, sapan On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:28 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: So, a lot of people have been asking me this lately in the OLPC context. What keeps you going? Of course, this question has been asked by different people with different intentions. Some are genuinely surprised that I have so much free time, while others suspect a hidden treasure. So, I decided to shoot off this e-mail to the lists for two reasons. One, I am not sure which list is appropriate, and two, I think many of us do question the merits of this project from time to time, and I want to share my sentiments with you all. Feel free to delete if you don't like it. During my visit to India a long time friend asked me this question. What keeps you going with a project like this? He wanted to know where I got all this free time from. Well, the assumption is a bit off. A lot of the time I put into the project aligns with my profession as well. Sustainable IT, network infrastructure, software development, collaboration, etc. are all parts of my research stream. so is FOSS development, adoption and use. So, finding time isn't that much of a stretch. Its a two way street. I am able to bring these things into my classroom and into my research. Of course, without support from my family, this would be extremely difficult. For instance, when I am off, gallivanting in Jamaica and working on a pilot there, my wife has to cover for me and she does so with a lot of effort, but we think its all for a good cause. We hope some of this will make a difference in the lives of communities there. Others, such as some of my students, have asked me the same question but with a little wink wink glint in their eye. They think there is something ulterior or somehow I am getting paid or I am bucking the system (wonder where they got that idea from). Getting across the volunteer ethic is very hard. Either you get it or you don't. Of course, volunteer-ism is driven by many things including ego, fame, and little green laptops. It is also driven by a desire to make a difference in the system. Sometimes the system doesn't want that change, but we still push for it. But that's another e-mail. Then there are some of us who have an addictive desire to take things apart. You know who I'm taking about! Take apart and put back together things that most people would leave untouched. People who subscribe to Make magazine or own a soldering iron would know. Its a strange itch, but its an ethic that brings people together. Its hard to explain these things to people who've never opened a radio, or a watch. On the other hand, if you are the Maker type, you would instantly know. We were surprised at the courage of attendees at the December OLPC-SF meeting. They took their XOs apart and put them back together. Well, most of us did. Only Robert needed some help from a 7 year old attendee :-) (Sorry Robert. Couldn't resist!) I think its a lot of these reasons that keep us all together in this project and its offshoots, but one experience has captured my enthusiasm unlike any other. This was a trip to Khairat, India's first pilot site (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Khairat_school). I had seen pictures, and even videos and news clips of Khairat. But driving out there with the folks from Reliance (the pilot partner) was a turning point. Seeing five year olds handling their XOs with ease was just amazing. Seeing them document their lives and showing me photos via the journal suddenly made a lot of sense. All discussions of a lack of a file manager were moot at that point. Rahul and Manisha sure don't need a file manager to show me what they did! They could care less about /etc or /usr/local/ I wish I could get the journal on my Ubuntu Thinkpad laptop. They had documented a tight rope walker who visited Khairat. They had documented Gandhi's birthday (2nd Oct) and showed me the photos. They didn't care that Sugar was slow. After all, for them to know that Sugar is slow, they would have to know something faster! They love their XOs and it shows. Then there is Mr. Surve, the teacher at Khairat. With very little training, this man gets his gang going. He's built solar system animations in e-toys and precipitation cycle in Paint. He has made his own lesson plans in Write and is constantly yelling in Marathi (local language) Go to the neighborhood. Join the mesh. Who woulda thunk it? In the middle-of-nowhere-Khairat, a teacher is yelling a his kids to join the mesh. A draft version of 802.11s has made it that far! Of course Rahul and Manisha don't know that. And they don't need to, because we have a team of do-gooders who take care of all that. And that's where my respect and
Re: Journal integration for Scratch
Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 18:50, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 18:11, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: So what would the Scratch activity have to do so files put into the Journal (maybe by downloading) are displayed using a Scratch icon rather than the generic document icon? Shipping a mimetypes.xml file inside the bundle as explained here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#Bundle_Structure Sugar will call update-mime-database and will merge that file into the xdg mime database. I think that John is already trying this. Guess I'm confused then - I thought that's exactly what Philipp had done. I think he just changed the mime_types field in the .info file. And I just checked and it does work with Etoys projects. When downloading one it indeed gets an etoys icon (although at a smaller size - why is that?) No idea, though I think that the mime database is updated in the etoys rpm and not in the bundle, am I right? Regards, Tomeu Thanks Tomeu to lead me to the /home/olpc/.local directory. However, the mimetypes.xml is not necessary to get the icon in the journal. I just had to copy the scratch icon file in the activity directory to application-x-scratch-project.svg (also in the scratch activity dirctory). The Memorize Activity is a good example for using that feature. Sugar has to be restarted after installing Scratch to show the icon. John, could you please make the following changes in the next Scratch version: - add the line mime_types = application/x-scratch-project to the activity.info file - copy the scratch icon to application-x-scratch-project.svg in the activity directory Etoys gets configured by different packages. e.g. the rpm etoys-3.0.2153-1.noarch is adding the file /usr/share/mime/packges/etoys.xml and the rpm sugar-artwork-0.82.3-1.olpc3 is adding the file /usr/share/icons/sugar/scalable/mimetypes/application-x-squake-project.svg. Regards, Philipp ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Nand blaster with 30 XOs
Please see: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-January/022334.html I hope that is enough to get started. I don't know if the best place to continue discussion is in this thread or that. In any case I will be happy to help. The thread already has some good commentaries analyzing the results, so perhaps we should continue there. Best, Erik On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Ricardo Carrano carr...@laptop.org wrote: Hi Paul, Just one XO froze (two times), but this unit seems problematic anyway. I am attaching the stats for the other 28. There is a minor caveat (that is not actually related to the nandblaster): Once you finish updating the XO that will be replicated it woud be useful to put it in a state such that the XO-name and color will be asked again after boot (otherwise you finsh with a lot of xos with the same name and color). It is probably a matter of removing a file. if you've booted the XO, there's more than that that's been cloned which might be a problem. (ssh host key, for example.) you should really nandblast images that haven't been booted. (erikg: did you finish your audit of what exactly gets changed?) True. I was so anxious to use the method that I didn't pay much attention to that. But If we don't boot the XO before the copying we'll lost the opportunity to add some stuff. If erikg has such a list, and we can revert some things, that would be awesome! Cheers! Ricardo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
