RE: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close
as our more English/Intl version This activity is on Pootle, written in English and translated to French, Spanish, Chinese etc. I found that you are using Jump!! :-) http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4599 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [Sugar-devel] Introducing SimpleActivity / Introduciendo SimpleActivity
Excellent! Some time ago I think have a simplified way to have an shareable activity without the tricky things of telephaty. This code can be added in Sugar? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:01:09 +1100 From: qu...@laptop.org To: a...@sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Introducing SimpleActivity / Introduciendo SimpleActivity CC: sugar-desarro...@lists.sugarlabs.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; olpc-urug...@lists.laptop.org; olpc-...@lists.laptop.org +1 I have reviewed simpleactivity.py and testactivity.py This code is very legible and explains well what it does, and can serve as an example for new activity authors. The docstrings in simpleactivity.py are an effective explanation of the simplified API, so perhaps you can generate the documentation from them in the usual Python fashion. Next to do is for a few activities to be developed using SimpleActivity, so that you can see what remains common to the new activities. The common code might then be added to SimpleActivity. testactivity.py is derived from SharedActivity, and so it is complex, because a collaborating activity is complex. I'd like to see also an activity example derived from SimpleActivity. The number of imports done by testactivity.py still seems high, and a SimpleActivity example may be able to reduce that. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Auckland Testing Summary 6 July 2013
Labyrinth and Maze are both called Kōwhīwhiwhi - suggests an inappropriate translation of Labyrinth (guess it should be translated to a word more appropriate for brainstorm/mindmap activity). In spanish we have the same problem, and the Labyrinth name waschanged to Mind maps.Would be good rename the activity in the activity.info to Mind maps and avoidthis problems. Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 22:01:52 +1200 From: t...@carrott.org To: olpc...@lists.laptop.org; Devel@lists.laptop.org; test...@lists.laptop.org; ba...@laptop.org.au Subject: Auckland Testing Summary 6 July 2013 Auckland Testing Summary 6 July 2013 Who: John, Tabitha, Tom Testing XO-system 1a For XO-4 (build 46) Sugar 0.98.7 Firmware Q7B35 Found that my previously described customization script was not working right -- the /etc/sysconfig/keyboard change is overwritten during first boot! Updated the customization script to also hack olpc-configure. Will look at options to do this better later. Found that this build does not include the Maori translations for sugar itself. Worked with CJL to get the language pack into the customization script. We're not sure how we missed this as we have done a moderate amount of testing with Maori in previous builds, perhaps we saw the activities translated to Maori (activities are built differently) and just didn't notice that sugar itself had no Maori. The language selector is awful. It's slow to appear, the drop downs don't work the first time you use them and they scroll very slowly compared to the number of entries but too fast to easily spot your desired language. Sometimes when changing the language, when you click the restart now, nothing happens. If you click restart later and then restart the whole laptop the changes seem to take affect. Some activities that we were expecting to be there, were not (maybe we are getting confused between builds prepared for different deployments). There is no GetBooks but there is Read (without any books!). There is also no Infoslice. There is no SocialCalc. There is no eToys. In Browse we went to activities.sugarlabs.org and tried to use the touch screen to write in the search but that didn't work, you had to use the touchpad button to activate the search box. You also couldn't just touch the button that starts the search, you had to use the touchpad button (or enter key). You could however use the touchscreen to select the activity to go to the activity page and touch to select download. Activities did however download successfully, install and run (like the Music keyboard activity btw). There used to be a menu on the left side of the homepage in Browse but it has gone on all the XO-4 homepages. You used to use that menu to access maps, images and sound files, as well as any published Infoslice activity. Maze works. Paint works well with touchscreen. Physics works well with touchscreen. Implode works well with touchscreen. Portfolio works. Measure works well with touchscreen. Labyrinth works. Write works and the Maori Macrons (now, after some changes) work. The insertion of a table changes the font to times new roman which is not actually a listed font available in Write. We're not sure if there is a camera in the XO-4 SKU 303 serial SHC318001EC we just got from Australia, there is something there but it is at best mis-aligned. This laptop did get banged against a wall on it's handle while it was closed. The direction of the impact was mostly parallel with the plane of the shut laptop and wasn't too severe. Could this move the camera in the body of the laptop and also break it? Firmware camera test fails, record behaves reasonably (it only offers to record sound). Barry reports the second XO from the pair in this shipment has a working camera. The XO-4 we got from Boston does recognise it's camera on and it can take high and low quality video well. Will take photographs and wait for advice before opening. Moon still fails to start when the XO language is Maori. Previously reported in https://sugardextrose.org/issues/3971 Clock - loving the new grab hands feature, still doesn't talk when XO is in Maori. Maori issue also reported in the same 3971 ticket. Labyrinth and Maze are both called Kōwhīwhiwhi - suggests an inappropriate translation of Labyrinth (guess it should be translated to a word more appropriate for brainstorm/mindmap activity). On some laptops terminal is called Terminal and on others it is called Kāpeka. WikipediaEN has not had an activity name translation either but this might be deliberate. Turtleblocks activity has a partial translation inside the activity due to new blocks being added. The name of the Turtleblocks activity has not been translated (but again that might be deliberate). ___
RE: Aggressive screen blanking with 13.1.0 build 35
Try with the latest 13.2.0 build 4 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.2.0http://build.laptop.org/13.2.0/os4 -- Subject: Aggressive screen blanking with 13.1.0 build 35 From: andrew.ruth...@catalyst.net.nz To: devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:20:04 +1200 Hey, I've just updated an XO 1.75 to 13.1.0 build 35. But I've noticed that it blanks the screen after 12 seconds of inactivity. Then approximately 30 seconds later it flashes the screen on and blanks it again a couple of times then goes into suspend. Is this known behaviour? Can we change it? 12 seconds is pretty aggressive and makes it rather difficult to use. Cheers! -- Andrew Ruthven, Wellington, New Zealand Catalyst IT Limited -- http://www.catalyst.net.nz At work: andrew.ruth...@catalyst.net.nz At home: and...@etc.gen.nz GPG fpr: 34CA 12A3 C6F8 B156 72C2 D0D7 D286 CE0C 0C62 B791 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Changing track
Goog luck! thanks for all your work improving day by day ours XO! Regards! Alan Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:14:43 -0300 Subject: Re: Changing track From: martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com To: mar...@laptop.org CC: de...@laptop.org Las discusiones siempre fueron muy interesantes :) La mejor de las suertes tocayo. Espero encuentres el balance que buscas! On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: Hello devel! I haven't been posting here often enough. After a year of enormous effort, we are approaching start of mass production with XO-4. It is time for me to announce my departure from OLPC. My work at OLPC has been a demanding one and I have given it all my energy. But I have a young family in a foreign country, and I find that I need to take things easier and find a bit more personal time. It has been a great run of ~7 years with OLPC, ~5 of them with a formal position in the organization, and it has been a great pleasure to be part of this. Hacking, disagreeing and designing... looking for a better widget, for a different world for our children. I continue to be amazed at how hard it is... and at how much you accomplish on the ground. But all those accomplishments involve more hands than the members of devel@l.l.o (and related lists). A lot more hands. We should always remember and respect the teachers and technicians dealing with problems every day. Problems that may seem trivial for us while we type an email or update a wikipage, but that are huge when you don't know the fix, or your don't have the tools or parts handy, and you are singlehandedly supporting a school of hundreds of kids with XOs. John Watlington will be taking over my responsibilities. We have in fact been working as a team covering HW and SW with our respective strengths.. We share style and background with OLPC. There is not much of a transition to worry about, he has been involved in all major decisions, including hiring me back in 2008 (now you know who to blame!). I am not completely disappearing from the scene -- I'll stay on devel@l.l.o :-) I will continue to be involved in e-learning projects with Moodle and to be part of OLPC's extended family. Bear in mind I cannot promise much time involvement -- I will be starting a new job and prioritizing personal time. My last day with OLPC will be March 8th. After that, mar...@laptop.org will be no more, and martin.langh...@gmail.com is where you can reach me. let's keep hacking together, m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Video on XO 1.75 (URGENT)
Hi, In sugar or gnome?With which activity/program open the .ogv files? Regards! Alan From: tkk...@nurturingasia.com To: devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 04:40:30 + Subject: Video on XO 1.75 (URGENT) I am making the transition from XO 1 to XO 1.75. I plug in a USB with some *.ogv to play on a FEW new XO1.75 (12.1.0 customised build 10 ). When I click on it some files will play but some would not play at all - as if it is choking!. Run fine on my XO 1.0. What are the additional (if this required?) steps to make any XO1.75 video playable? Appreciate some help here as this is urgent for a coming deployment. The XOs we have are SKU228 --- T.K. Kang Web: http://www.nurturingeducation.com E-mail: tkk...@nurturingeducation.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: pin in turtleart-extras.po
Now, thanks to your explanation, those 16 pins look like real pins. It makes sense, in any case, more that the hack points represented in http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/mediawiki/images/c/cd/Hackp5.png Yes, we need put a better picture.. You like this? http://www.fing.edu.uy/~aaguiar/files/IMG_0657.JPG ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: 13.1.0 release candidate 6 (build 30) released
Hi,
I'm install it on XO-1.75 and get this part in shell.log
1360900247.799562 WARNING root: No Gtk.AccelGroup in the top level
window.1360900247.892526 WARNING root: No Gtk.AccelGroup in the top level
window.Traceback (most recent call last): File
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar3/graphics/palettewindow.py, line 1282,
in __enter_notify_event_cbself.notify_mouse_enter() File
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar3/graphics/palettewindow.py, line 965,
in notify_mouse_enterself._ensure_palette_exists() File
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar3/graphics/palettewindow.py, line 960,
in _ensure_palette_existspalette = self.parent.create_palette() File
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/desktop/favoritesview.py, line 597,
in create_paletteif self._home_activity.is_journal():AttributeError:
'NoneType' object has no attribute 'is_journal'1360900286.480201 ERROR
dbus.connection: Exception in handler for D-Bus signal:Traceback (most recent
call last): File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line
230, in maybe_handle_messageself._handler(*args, **kwargs) File
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py, line 430, in
__buddy_info_updated_cbself.emit('buddy-updated',
self._buddy_handles[handle], properties)KeyError:
dbus.UInt32(2L)1360900321.271126 WARNING root:
_Account.__set_current_activity_cb/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gi/types.py:47:
Warning: g_object_set_property: assertion `G_IS_VALUE (value)' failed return
info.invoke(*args, **kwargs)/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gi/types.py:47:
Warning: g_value_unset: assertion `G_IS_VALUE (value)' failed return
info.invoke(*args, **kwargs)1360900518.290478 WARNING root:
_Account.__set_current_activity_cb1360900614.033173 WARNING root:
_Account.__set_current_activity_cb1360900713.630294 WARNING root:
_Account.__set_current_activity_cb
Maybe the error is a corner case..
The warning: _Account.__set_current_activity_cb appears a lot of times..
The rest.. seems work. Let me try more.
Regards!
Alan
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:38:01 -0600
Subject: 13.1.0 release candidate 6 (build 30) released
From: d...@laptop.org
To: devel@lists.laptop.org; test...@lists.laptop.org
Hi,
We're pleased to announce the next release candidate of our new 13.1.0
software release.
Information and installation instructions can be found here:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.1.0
Quick links for those who know which files need to be grabbed and save
to USB disks:
http://download.laptop.org/xo-4/os/candidate/13.1.0-30
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.75/os/candidate/13.1.0-30
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/13.1.0-30
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/13.1.0-30
This is a signed release candidate that can be installed on all XOs,
even those with security enabled.
We're looking for testing and feedback on all aspects of the system.
Thanks for any help you can offer, and for all the feedback that was
received throughout development.
Please review the Known problems section of the release notes. Some
documented issues are carried over from previous releases, but others
are new and are things that we will aim to fix in the few weeks before
release.
XO-4 automatic power management is enabled by default, but this is
still a work in progress. There are still various instabilities which
may make this build feel more unstable than earlier ones. You can
disable automatic power management in sugar's Settings panel to
restore previous behaviour.
Compared to the previous release candidate, we have changed:
Latest wake-on-WLAN fixes for 8787 wireless. The C1 machines should
now have somewhat reliable wake-on-WLAN.
The no-mouse-on-boot problem should be finally resolved (#12101).
Please shout if you see further cases of dead touchpad upon boot.
systemd no longer conflicts with powerd's lid handling (#12504)
olpc-dev-kernel works on XO-1.75 (#12531)
Wikipedia now works when offline (#12479)
Thanks!
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RE: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
is there a way to block suspend when a class of USB device is plugged? This will be very important.. Disable the automatic power-save (AKA power off usb..)if one device is using the usb comunication. This can be made?What happens if you want to copy a large file to a pendrive? The system power-offthe usb ever? Alan From: martin.langh...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 02:53:47 -0500 To: qu...@laptop.org; je...@laptop.org.au; martin.langh...@gmail.com; a...@activitycentral.com; Devel@lists.laptop.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:40 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: I don't think having an end-user with no experience with USB IDs add an entry to the usb-inhibits file, or having to remember to turn off a major feature is the correct long term solution IMHO. You guys are driving OOB, so you short-term you can tweak usb-inhibits with the 3G modems you have. And you've hacked powerd and other bits of infra in the past, if there's a better way (ie: is there a way to block suspend when a class of USB device is plugged? or perhaps an NM hook could set the inhibit-suspend flag?) you are uniquely well positioned to know, try likely approaches, etc... cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: 13.1.0 development build 10 released
You are free to unsuscribe from this list: http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/Devel Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 19:31:31 -0800 Subject: RE: 13.1.0 development build 10 released From: strawbridgenat...@gmail.com To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: devel@lists.laptop.org; d...@laptop.org Cease all emails to me and immediately remove me from all future emails. Strawbridge On Nov 8, 2012 7:29 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Quick tests: - In the neighborhood when you click on AP with password, not appears the window to enter the password. If you make a right click and select connect (that I supose thatcontinues being connect because only see a black frame) the window appears. Attach neighborhood.pngIn the shell appears some error of this.. attach the log file.. HOW TO FIX: file: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/desktop/networkviews.py line: 648change: _palette_ by: _palette And Works!! ;-) - Copy an entry to a Pendrive (or similar). Continues with problem. No copy! If you use the secondary menu: copy to.. it works.. - The activities works.. I'm only check the basic.. Regards! Alan Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:31:41 -0600 Subject: 13.1.0 development build 10 released From: d...@laptop.org To: devel@lists.laptop.org A new 13.1.0 development build is available. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0 http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os10/ Changes: - The latest sugar component versions that were released on Wednesday - A handful of activity updates - XO-4 bluez command-line utility added to allow the factory to test bluetooth support on the XO-4 8787 wireless card - Latest XO-4 kernel work for suspend/resume - XO-1.75 audio recording works again (#12199) Thanks for any testing and feedback! Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: OwNet
Sounds good.. From: mlip...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 19:50:20 +0100 Subject: OwNet To: devel@lists.laptop.org Hi everyone,We are a group of students from the Slovak University of Technology. Last year we took part in an international competition called Imagine Cup. We created an application, called OwNet, that enables users with poor Internet connection browse the Web more effectively and even offline by providing a local proxy that intelligently caches and prefetches Web pages. It also contains some educational features, as it is intended for schools in Africa. OwNet is currently being deployed in Kenya, at schools in Nanyuki and Voi. Because of the rules of the Imagine Cup competition, our application is implemented using Microsoft technologies. However, this year we are going to reimplement it using cross-platform technologies so that it can also be used under Linux. Recently we came across the project OLPC. We find it very interesting and, if possible, we would like to contribute to the project. Could our application be somehow useful to OLPC? Possibly some parts could be integrated into the Sugar interface (e.g. intelligent caching, prefetching or educational features). Since we intend a full reimplementation, we could choose features based on your preference or suggestions. We would really appreciate your feedback, questions or ideas. You can also find more information about the project on our website: http://ownet.fiit.stuba.sk/?l=uk Thank you very much. Cheers,the OwNet team ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: viafb-camera: Funky IRQ
With the kernel 3.2.. I have a problem with the camera.When starts (with any program, or directly with pygame) the computer freezes.Never can see the errors (freezes immediatly)Now, with kernel 3.5.0-17 works (since 3.5..).I think that are a problem with that kernel.. Which image are using in the XO, which kernel it has? Alan Subject: Re: viafb-camera: Funky IRQ From: jvo...@shaw.ca To: qu...@laptop.org Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:51:46 -0500 CC: devel@lists.laptop.org; mavrot...@yahoo.com Doesn't attaching a serial console disable the camera on a XO-1.5? Jerry On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 07:36 +1100, James Cameron wrote: These kernel messages seem normal to me, in that they were present in manufacturing tests and apparently did not affect the Sugar Record activity. I don't think the ffplay -loglevel 7 did anything to change these messages, since they are emitted by the kernel and not ffplay. I think you may need to diagnose the freeze a bit further. Is the freeze only of your application, or is the freeze also affecting keyboard, touchpad and other things? If the freeze is affecting more than the application, I suggest you attach a serial console and look for kernel output there. Perhaps you have found a way to panic the kernel. On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 02:36:54AM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: I'm trying to use ffmpeg/ffplay (version 0.6.3-rpmfusion) on os885 to make a simple app for camera recording/viewing on XO-1.5. The problem I have is that only the first or a couple of initial frames are showing/recorded and then it freezes there. With ffplay -loglevel 7, kernel shows: [ 473.790518] viafb-camera viafb-camera: Funky IRQ 90200022 . [ 474.257107] viafb-camera viafb-camera: Funky IRQ 90200022 [ 478.855311] viacam_quick_irq: 137 callbacks suppressed [ 478.860016] viafb-camera viafb-camera: Funky IRQ 90200022 . [ 479.155117] viafb-camera viafb-camera: Funky IRQ 90200022 [ 479.322696] viafb-camera viafb-camera: Release: 329 hard, 167 thread, 162 frames [ 479.338337] viafb-camera viafb-camera: No frame 0, no buf 5 overruns 5 Could not find much about Funky IRQ on the web #10981 shows a similar kernel output but there is now follow up more than a year now. Anyone has some experience with ffmpeg and via-camera on the XO-1.5? Thx ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Xo1.5 crashes
Hello! We have one XO 1.5 that have that problem.We used it for our Butiá project. When plug an arduino board into the usb, the XO rebootsinstantanly. Now, with our PIC18F.. that it speak directly USB works perfectly! The question: the problem is the usb conversion of the arduino board?Some devices speak serial, no usb direclty.. Regards! Alan Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 11:28:52 -0600 Subject: Xo1.5 crashes From: aaronbedf...@gmail.com To: Devel@lists.laptop.org So when i plug one usb device into the xo be it an ipod or a cell phone while running on battery the screen goes white and the laptop reboots. It works fine when plugged in charging though. I just wanted to let you all know what im experiencing. I believe the devices are drawing too much current from the laptop and forcing a reboot. It doesnt matter which usb port i plug it into. Thanks Aaron Bedford IT Admin ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Tests 13.1.0 devel build 5
Hi, I download the image for my XO-1 and found a few of problems: -connect to wifi: my router have an encrypted network, and when I click on them to conenct,the enter your password window not appears.-the keyboard option in the control panel not works. If you click some times, the XO reboots!!-DESIGN: the cross of the GTK text box no are vertical centered (see attach image gtk_text_box.png)-the home, in the list view, sometimes shows an strange name of the activities (I think a badredraw.. I attach: home_list_view.png)-why the summary info no appears in the home list view yet?-in the journal: why don't have multi-select option? that is a good feature! Regards! Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: 13.1.0 development build 3 released
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:25:38 -0600 Subject: Re: 13.1.0 development build 3 released From: d...@laptop.org To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: devel@lists.laptop.org; test...@lists.laptop.org Hi Alan, On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: I have an old XO-1 (SKU 1) with firmware: Q2F13 I have some thinks with this new image: Thanks a lot for testing. SUGAR: -the usb pendrive I need mount manually.. SL#3911 -the first time that you click on the journal, it no appears (I can see a window that minimizes SL#3810 to right bottom of the screen -I have problems with the click, seems that sometimes the event is no getted for the system. with usb mouse, no changes.. Probably #12115 (that one should at least be investigated first) -the control panel: - language: -would add an accelerator to find the language quickly? That you press 's' and go to s in the combo.. This would be a question for the sugar development list. - the option of add secondary languages works, but the second.. third.. combos no appears I don't understand what you mean here. Can you be more descriptive/specific? Exactly what are you clicking on, selecting, and expecting? Select a language. Click in + (add).The second combo of languages no appears. - the buttons of 'cross' and 'tick' to apply the changes, no appears. the window have bigger size than the usual panel of control windows. the right and left margin no exit (maybe is the reason to the icons of cross no appears) - modem: same problem with large window. Bug reports welcome for these (on SL trac) - I can't see existing tickets. Maybe: SL#3902 speak: the activity open, say hello.. write something but only see a grey screen. after of a time, the activity is draw.. SL#3901 -connect to AP: I cannot connect, when you click, appears the star but no give me the password window (it's a secured wifi) Ticket appreciated on SL trac. Tony adds it to SL#3939 -I think that exist a ticket with this problem: when press the sound keys, the sound change but in the frame, the icon display the same icon. Yes, known issue. GNOME: -I not see the icon of the networks, but if I click on them, it shows the networks.. #11979 - Why now uses Epiphany instead Firefox ? epiphany loads google.com.uy and crash :-( I attach the strace of it.. We were forced to move from Mozilla to Webkit on the Sugar side and we made the same migration on the GNOME side. Epiphany/WebKit also is more suitable for our platform for a variety of reasons. Don't be too discouraged by the XO-1 crash you are seeing (#12088) which we will fix soon :) Ok. Thanks for the report, looking forward to future ones :) Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Jump activity
Hi, Anyone knows Joshua Seaver or Bimal Sadhwani ? Their makes the Jump activity at Carnegie Mellon University some time ago (2007 ? )I makes some changes in the activity, but I need their approve. to begin with, I don't know the licence of the activity.I want to revive this activity that have a very good job and improve it. Regards! Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: XO Sticks and XOrduino
Hi, You know the Butia robot? http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/ First, we use a Arduino Mega baseboard to build our Butia.Now, we use a more inexpensive board: USB4Butia: http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/mediawiki/index.php/Usb4butia That board (USB4Butia) can be make with low cost and with your hands: http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/mediawiki/index.php/USB4buti%C3%A0 All the software/hardware is open!The more expensive component in the board is the micro: PIC 18F4550 We have a TurtleBlocks plugin to control the robot: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt#Butia And we add Lego NxT and Lego WeDo plugins in the TurtleBlocks, making afork called: TurtleBots: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4434 You think make a similar plugin for the XOurduino?Maybe, we can help you.. Regards! Alan Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 03:28:46 -0400 Subject: XO Sticks and XOrduino From: csc...@laptop.org To: devel@lists.laptop.org; i...@lists.sugarlabs.org I have about 20 XO Sticks and XOrduinos to give away to developers. Details at: http://cananian.livejournal.com/66654.html --scott -- ( http://cscott.net ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: 12.1.0 release candidate 3 (build 16) released
Good! I test it on a XO-1. Works good!Thanks for the 342 mb after install :-) Maybe it's too late to say this, but: I don't like the system to selectthe colors at the first time. I will prefer a similiar thing (or equal) toXOEditor: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4085 The folder: /etc/udev/rules.d is empty.. Fedora 17 moves the rulesto another folder? Regards! Alan Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 09:18:26 -0600 Subject: 12.1.0 release candidate 3 (build 16) released From: d...@laptop.org To: devel@lists.laptop.org Hi, We're pleased to announce the next release candidate of our new 12.1.0 software release. Information and installation instructions can be found here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/12.1.0 Quick links for those who know which files need to be grabbed and save to USB disks: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.75/os/candidate/12.1.0-16/ http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/12.1.0-16/ http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/12.1.0-16/ This is a signed release candidate that can be installed on all XOs, even those with security enabled. We're looking for testing and feedback on all aspects of the system. Thanks for any help you can offer, and for all the feedback that was received throughout development. Our scheduled release date is July 9th. Please review the Known problems section of the release notes. Some documented issues are carried over from previous releases, but others are new and are things that we will aim to fix in the time remaining before release. Compared to 12.1.0 release candidate 2 (build 15), we have fixed and changed: The Welcome screen (and activity) has been updated with new content providing a quick introduction on how to use Sugar and the XO. Implode has been fixed to show the animated help information again (SL#3463). Labyrinth can now resize images without hanging (SL#3669). A sugar-artwork update fixes drawing of the SpinButton widget in Read and Abacus (SL#3406) and the bookmark edit area in Read (SL#3561). The totem media player in GNOME was failing to launch; we've reverted to an older version to fix that. Ogg media on websites now works again: the totem-based media player plugin has been fixed to display this media in most cases (#11963), using WebKit's own media support in the other cases. When the webkit internal audio support is used, we've fixed the display of the playback controls (#11913). The battery meter now behaves better when plugging/unplugging AC power (#11957). Booting after activation no longer results in misnamed network devices (#11967) and loss of mesh networking on XO-1 (#11975). After activating, the black cursor no longer appears on top of the boot animation or on the desktop (#11940). A new instability in the XO-1 wireless driver has been fixed (#11941). XO-1.5 has been fixed for manufacturing tests involving suspend/resume (#11867, #11964). The manufacturing tests also exposed a bug in how the wtmp file is updated on shutdown, that's been fixed too (#11952). Thanks! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: 12.1.0 release candidate 3 (build 16) released
I forgot to mention the activities that need update (exist a newest version): from toMeasure 37 42Portfolio21 26Implode 11.1 12Pippy 46 49Maze 20 21TurtleArt 143 148Terminal39 40Memorize 40 41 Regards! Alan Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 09:18:26 -0600 Subject: 12.1.0 release candidate 3 (build 16) released From: d...@laptop.org To: devel@lists.laptop.org Hi, We're pleased to announce the next release candidate of our new 12.1.0 software release. Information and installation instructions can be found here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/12.1.0 Quick links for those who know which files need to be grabbed and save to USB disks: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.75/os/candidate/12.1.0-16/ http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/12.1.0-16/ http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/12.1.0-16/ This is a signed release candidate that can be installed on all XOs, even those with security enabled. We're looking for testing and feedback on all aspects of the system. Thanks for any help you can offer, and for all the feedback that was received throughout development. Our scheduled release date is July 9th. Please review the Known problems section of the release notes. Some documented issues are carried over from previous releases, but others are new and are things that we will aim to fix in the time remaining before release. Compared to 12.1.0 release candidate 2 (build 15), we have fixed and changed: The Welcome screen (and activity) has been updated with new content providing a quick introduction on how to use Sugar and the XO. Implode has been fixed to show the animated help information again (SL#3463). Labyrinth can now resize images without hanging (SL#3669). A sugar-artwork update fixes drawing of the SpinButton widget in Read and Abacus (SL#3406) and the bookmark edit area in Read (SL#3561). The totem media player in GNOME was failing to launch; we've reverted to an older version to fix that. Ogg media on websites now works again: the totem-based media player plugin has been fixed to display this media in most cases (#11963), using WebKit's own media support in the other cases. When the webkit internal audio support is used, we've fixed the display of the playback controls (#11913). The battery meter now behaves better when plugging/unplugging AC power (#11957). Booting after activation no longer results in misnamed network devices (#11967) and loss of mesh networking on XO-1 (#11975). After activating, the black cursor no longer appears on top of the boot animation or on the desktop (#11940). A new instability in the XO-1 wireless driver has been fixed (#11941). XO-1.5 has been fixed for manufacturing tests involving suspend/resume (#11867, #11964). The manufacturing tests also exposed a bug in how the wtmp file is updated on shutdown, that's been fixed too (#11952). Thanks! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: compiled to .XO
Maybe I don't understand all..When activity launs, calls a sh with the commands that you need to make thebinary. After, only calls the binary and start. Alan From: sve...@sfsu.edu Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:35:07 -0700 Subject: compiled to .XO To: sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; devel@lists.laptop.org We are looking at an app that goes through the classic ./configure, make, make install to compile from source. The compile process runs ok (this is on a XO-1). We are also able to run the binary, but I am unclear about how we would package this into a .xo activity. Any pointers? cheers, Sameer ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [Sugar-devel] compiled to .XO
I was thinking about how we would package the binaries, given that the .xo activity isn't supposed to install in /usr/local/bin and other locations. If we bundle the RPM, the olpc user does not have rights to install the binary. Easy: no install the binaries.. only use them,,You can compile (make), and after use the binaries into the same folder.. Which you want to compile?___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: XO-1 update to 885
The 885 are for XO-1: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/885/ XO-1.5: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/candidate/885/ and XO-1.75: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.75/os/candidate/885/ Regards! Alan Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:35:20 -0700 From: mavrot...@yahoo.com Subject: XO-1 update to 885 To: devel@lists.laptop.org With the opportunity of 12.1.0/os14 update in the one of my XO-1s, I also tried to update my F14 XO-1 to 11.3.1/os885 but I get `can not download update contents' Indeed rsync://updates.laptop.org/ does not list build-885. Actually the only 885 build there is the for the XO-1.75. Gave it some time in case it pulls it after the request, but no result :-/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Tests in Sugar 0.94.1 - ASLO web update
Hi, Some time ago, I make this spreadsheet [1]With my XO 1.0 I test some activities and put the results there.Tom Gilliard make test in Soas, XO 1.0, XO 1.5 and get the information of the Wiki.With all information I update the sugar version that each activity runs in ASLO web page. Now, we have 71 more activities for Sugar 0.94 that was testing.If you have an activity, check the list (above). There are a few activities that not runs on 0.94. The oldest activities (for 0.82) havea minimal problems (and need update the style of the toolbars). The tests on Sugar 0.96 started [2]Sugar 0.96 presents more problems: the old activities, in some cases uses 'class' and/or'service_name' in activity.info. but, fix that, are easy.Some of this activities, runs on 0.96, but without a test, I can't update the sugar versionparameter. If you test a activity, fill the information in [2] Regards! Alan [1] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc[2] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dDhXak9wYmlZU1pVX19IUGs0NkY3cEE ID Name4029 IRC4031 Wireless Graph4039 View Slides4083 PlayGo4194 Get IA books4200 Analyze4204 Arithmetic4209 Hop a round4212 Domino4213 EcoMundo4214 Elements4215 Falabracman4224 Kaleidoscope4225 EatBoom4232 BlockParty4236 StackAttack4241 OO4kids4252 Guido Van Robot4254 Kandid4267 GeoQuiz4271 TuxMath4284 Geogebra4285 Java4287 Plot4288 Quinteti4291 Sugar Commander4303 MathGraph 324326 Backup4327 Restore4336 Numbers4338 Edukt4340 Read SD Comic4341 Turtle Machine4345 Bubble Pop4347 WordSearch4354 Follow Me4356 GeoJAM4362 Idle4365 CeibalRadio4366 Tessellations4371 Boxes4375 Radio4382 Rectangles4383 Gogo4384 Pj4385 Pj Lite4397 Castle4398 Trails4402 FileMixAuto4403 Sudoku4407 Juani Downloader4413 Jumble4414 AppelHanken4419 AguBrowser4420 Mancala4422 Ominoes4423 Hmouse4426 Shapes4436 Gnumeric4439 OO4Kids-Es4441 Madagascar4451 Pmj4457 Butialo4458 Totem4460 Sokoban4463 IQ4468 Soma4470 Pursuit4475 DigArt4476 Python tute4477 Letters ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: 12.1.0 devel build 12 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
The file name to use is 21012o2.zd, where the second zero is actually the letter O. You appear to be typing two zeros.I have asked about this ambiguity in the past; but for now we seem to be staying with our current naming scheme.Open Firmware distinguishes the two with a dot in the zeros visible in the screenshot. Wow! I read your mail and see the photo and understand all!Will be very strange that there are a problem in the comand..Afortunatelly, when the image is signed, only press the 4 gamepads buttons and all works! haha Thanks! Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Media mount point
Hi, I'm testing in my XO 1.0 the build 12.1 (Sugar 0.96.1) I connect a pendrive and it is mounted on: /run/media/olpc Why? It's a new mechanism for Fedora 17? Regards! Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [Sugar-devel] Test in Sugar 0.96.1
Yes.. I'm a editor.. but that changes I can't make it.. Maybe a admin can make them?¿ Try it.. Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 08:59:52 -0300 From: gonz...@laptop.org To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; olpc...@lists.laptop.org; a...@lists.sugarlabs.org; walter.ben...@gmail.com; satel...@bendbroadband.com; devel@lists.laptop.org; dee...@laptop.org.au Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Test in Sugar 0.96.1 Thanks Alan for doing this extensive test!I imagine you have spent a lot of time doing the tests.Are you a editor in ASLO now, right? If yes, I think you should update the information about the supported versions. Gonzalo On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Some time ago, I make this spreadsheet [1] with the results of my test with XO 1.0 on Sugar 0.94.1Now, I'm making a new version [2] of the Sugar Test with the test results on Sugar 0.96.1 (Build 12.1-os11: 21011o0) The list of activities it's based on [3]. Anyone with the link can edit the spreadsheet... And the time goes by.. and the activities are updated.. I attach 2 graphs: the first, with the comparative of the activities for each sugar version (0.82, 0.84, ..., 0.96)with 2 colors: the red bars are of january, the blue bars, of today. The second picture, is of the time of the activities since the latest update: 111 activities have 6 months or less81 activities between 6 months - 1 year251 activities! more than 1 year.. and counting.. The test on Sugar 0.94 are (mostly) finished.. and some activities continues saying in ASLO I'm run on Sugar 0.82to 0.90 when runs perfectly on 0.94 (and possibly in 0.96) Regards! Alan [1] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc [2] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dDhXak9wYmlZU1pVX19IUGs0NkY3cEE [3] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dFJjNE9TemZUUGtzLVNEQnF4UlIwQkE ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Test in Sugar 0.96.1
Hi, Some time ago, I make this spreadsheet [1] with the results of my test with XO 1.0 on Sugar 0.94.1Now, I'm making a new version [2] of the Sugar Test with the test results on Sugar 0.96.1 (Build 12.1-os11: 21011o0)The list of activities it's based on [3]. Anyone with the link can edit the spreadsheet... And the time goes by.. and the activities are updated.. I attach 2 graphs: the first, with the comparative of the activities for each sugar version (0.82, 0.84, ..., 0.96)with 2 colors: the red bars are of january, the blue bars, of today. The second picture, is of the time of the activities since the latest update: 111 activities have 6 months or less81 activities between 6 months - 1 year251 activities! more than 1 year.. and counting.. The test on Sugar 0.94 are (mostly) finished.. and some activities continues saying in ASLO I'm run on Sugar 0.82to 0.90 when runs perfectly on 0.94 (and possibly in 0.96) Regards! Alan [1] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc[2] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dDhXak9wYmlZU1pVX19IUGs0NkY3cEE[3] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dFJjNE9TemZUUGtzLVNEQnF4UlIwQkE attachment: versions_compatible.pngattachment: latest_update.png___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: legousbtower kernel module
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 14:37:29 -0400
Subject: Re: legousbtower kernel module
From: walter.ben...@gmail.com
To: b...@freudenbergs.de
CC: d...@laptop.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; alan...@hotmail.com;
aagui...@fing.edu.uy
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On 08.05.2012, at 20:09, Walter Bender wrote:
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de
wrote:
However, /dev/usb/lego0 is not created. The corresponding udev rule is
installed by Fedora's nqc rpm, but it relies on the legousbtower
kernel module.
Am I doing something wrong, or is it really just that the OLPC kernel is
missing that module? If so, where can I get it? Or do I have to try
compiling myself?
I just added it for the next 12.1.0 build.
Thanks
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I can talk to NXT and WeDo without the kernel mode... just some udev
rules as per:
https://github.com/itdaniher/WeDoMore/tree/master/udev
I think these rules are already in place??? (haven't tested on 12.x.x)
RCX 1.0 = Infrared via serial (launched 1998)
RCX 2.0 = Infrared via USB tower (2001)
NXT = Bluetooth (2006)
WeDO = USB (2009)
The legousbtower module is needed for the RCX 2.0 Infrared Tower.
Including a udev rule might be a good idea though. Currently it is provided
by the nqc rpm.
OTOH, there is no Sugar activity that uses the RCX, AFAIK. Worse, I don't
even know any graphical Linux application to talk to the RCX. Do you?
Will ask the Butia team. They may have done something.
We use the Butia 1.0 with arduino board. For it, we don't need any special
thing, because itis used with the usb like a serial device.
The 2.0 version of Butia, uses a PIC18F.. that we need a udev rules.Someone
like this:
BUS==usb, ATTRS{idVendor}==04d8, ATTRS{idProduct}==000[bc], MODE=0666
The latest build of Sugar have the udev for WeDo.Could be added the NXT rules.
In other way, the problem with Lego is the Bluetooth dongle.The kernel not have
the bluetooth kernel.
Would be interesting have the kernel module in some place, and if someone want
to use it,is only download and insert...
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RE: legousbtower kernel module
To: alan...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: legousbtower kernel module
From: p...@laptop.org
CC: walter.ben...@gmail.com; b...@freudenbergs.de; aagui...@fing.edu.uy;
devel@lists.laptop.org
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 17:39:14 -0400
alan jhonn aguiar schwyn wrote:
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 14:37:29 -0400
Subject: Re: legousbtower kernel module
From: walter.ben...@gmail.com
To: b...@freudenbergs.de
CC: d...@laptop.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; alan...@hotmail.com;
aagui...@fing.edu.uy
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de
wrote:
On 08.05.2012, at 20:09, Walter Bender wrote:
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Bert Freudenberg
b...@freudenbergs.de
wrote:
However, /dev/usb/lego0 is not created. The corresponding udev rule
is
installed by Fedora's nqc rpm, but it relies on the legousbtower
kernel
module.
Am I doing something wrong, or is it really just that the OLPC
kernel is
missing that module? If so, where can I get it? Or do I have to try
compiling
myself?
I just added it for the next 12.1.0 build.
Thanks
Daniel
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I can talk to NXT and WeDo without the kernel mode... just some udev
rules as per:
https://github.com/itdaniher/WeDoMore/tree/master/udev
I think these rules are already in place??? (haven't tested on 12.x.x)
RCX 1.0 = Infrared via serial (launched 1998)
RCX 2.0 = Infrared via USB tower (2001)
NXT = Bluetooth (2006)
WeDO = USB (2009)
The legousbtower module is needed for the RCX 2.0 Infrared Tower.
Including a udev rule might be a good idea though. Currently it is
provided
by the nqc rpm.
OTOH, there is no Sugar activity that uses the RCX, AFAIK. Worse, I
don't
even know any graphical Linux application to talk to the RCX. Do you?
Will ask the Butia team. They may have done something.
We use the Butia 1.0 with arduino board. For it, we don't need any special
thing, because itis used with the usb like a serial device.
The 2.0 version of Butia, uses a PIC18F.. that we need a udev
rules.Someone
like this:
BUS==usb, ATTRS{idVendor}==04d8, ATTRS{idProduct}==000[bc],
MODE=0666
so this is new since the last we discussed special rules. okay.
The latest build of Sugar have the udev for WeDo.Could be added the NXT
rules.
In other way, the problem with Lego is the Bluetooth dongle.The kernel not
have
the bluetooth kernel.
which kernel doesn't have bluetooth? i thought we added bluetooth
support some time ago.
The 3.0.19 for XO 1.75 not have.. In others.. I don't know..
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RE: legousbtower kernel module
And there are support for XO 1.0 and 1.5 ??
To: greenf...@laptop.org
Subject: Re: legousbtower kernel module
From: p...@laptop.org
CC: alan...@hotmail.com; aagui...@fing.edu.uy; devel@lists.laptop.org
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 20:22:20 -0400
samuel wrote:
I plugged a Belkin (Broadcom-based) USB Bluetooth adapter into two XO-1.75s
running reasonably current 3.0.19 kernels (on 11.3.1 os3x builds), as well
a XO-1.5 running a 3.3.2 kernel (on 12.1.0 os8), and all of them recognized
the adapter.
thanks for confirming, sam. i enabled bluetooth in early february on
our 1.75 branches. 40ef541 and d1501e7 on arm-3.0-ramp and
arm-3.0-wip, respectively.
there's no bluetooth support in build 883 (aka 11.3.0) from last
october, but there's no support for a lot of things for 1.75 in 11.3.0.
The driver used was btusb.
What build are you using and is this the Lego-supplied Bluetooth dongle not
working?
If it is the latter, I do not believe I have one available for me to test
with.
the folks at lego told us that their dongle is one of the really
common ones -- i don't recall which right now, but we have one at the
office, and it definitely worked when i added the support. i tested
several others as well.
paul
---
SJG
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
alan...@hotmail.com wrote:
To: alan...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: legousbtower kernel module
From: p...@laptop.org
CC: walter.ben...@gmail.com; b...@freudenbergs.de;
aagui...@fing.edu.uy;
devel@lists.laptop.org
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 17:39:14 -0400
alan jhonn aguiar schwyn wrote:
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 14:37:29 -0400
Subject: Re: legousbtower kernel module
From: walter.ben...@gmail.com
To: b...@freudenbergs.de
CC: d...@laptop.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; alan...@hotmail.com;
aagui...@fing.edu.uy
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Bert Freudenberg
b...@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On 08.05.2012, at 20:09, Walter Bender wrote:
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org
wrote:
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Bert Freudenberg
b...@freudenbergs.de
wrote:
However, /dev/usb/lego0 is not created. The corresponding udev
rule is
installed by Fedora's nqc rpm, but it relies on the legousbtower
kernel
module.
Am I doing something wrong, or is it really just that the OLPC
kernel is
missing that module? If so, where can I get it? Or do I have to try
compiling
myself?
I just added it for the next 12.1.0 build.
Thanks
Daniel
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I can talk to NXT and WeDo without the kernel mode... just some
udev
rules as per:
https://github.com/itdaniher/WeDoMore/tree/master/udev
I think these rules are already in place??? (haven't tested on
12.x.x)
RCX 1.0 = Infrared via serial (launched 1998)
RCX 2.0 = Infrared via USB tower (2001)
NXT = Bluetooth (2006)
WeDO = USB (2009)
The legousbtower module is needed for the RCX 2.0 Infrared
Tower.
Including a udev rule might be a good idea though. Currently it
is
provided
by the nqc rpm.
OTOH, there is no Sugar activity that uses the RCX, AFAIK. Worse,
I don't
even know any graphical Linux application to talk to the RCX. Do you?
Will ask the Butia team. They may have done something.
We use the Butia 1.0 with arduino board. For it, we don't need any
special
thing, because itis used with the usb like a serial device.
The 2.0 version of Butia, uses a PIC18F.. that we need a udev
rules.Someone
like this:
BUS==usb, ATTRS{idVendor}==04d8, ATTRS{idProduct}==000[bc],
MODE=0666
so this is new since the last we discussed special rules. okay.
The latest build of Sugar have the udev for WeDo.Could be added the
NXT rules.
In other way, the problem with Lego is the Bluetooth dongle.The
kernel
not have
the bluetooth kernel.
which kernel doesn't have bluetooth? i thought we added bluetooth
support some time ago.
The 3.0.19 for XO 1.75 not have.. In others.. I don't know..
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Hi, I wanted to share with you some videos of what we are doingwith Butiá 2.0.In the videos you see a XO 1.75, using the accelerometer that it brings,we use it to control the robot. The XO (1.0) which is above therobot receives messages sent to you by the other (connected by the network maya)and uses the camera to send it captures the XO 1.75.With this, you can control the robot to several feet away, somethingthat can be called telepresence. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPzQEOUlIbwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONs1ldL5tpAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPj3N17fx94 We make 2 workshops in the Brasil school (in Montevideo) and the childrensplay with the robot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VXsDzvhfC8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXjbuTdjugM Regards! Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Python-DBUS problem
Hi,
Yesterday, I update my Ubuntu to 12.04.
When make it, appears a error with sugar. When I try usethe TurtleArt activity
give this error:
Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/sugar-activity, line 21, in
modulemain.main() File
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/sugar/activity/main.py, line 121, in main
module = __import__(module_name) File
/home/alan/Activities/TurtleBots.activity/TurtleArtActivity.py, line 68, in
modulefrom TurtleArt.tacollaboration import Collaboration File
/home/alan/Activities/TurtleBots.activity/TurtleArt/tacollaboration.py, line
23, in modulefrom dbus.gobject_service import ExportedGObject File
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/dbus/gobject_service.py, line 27, in
modulefrom gi.repository import GObject as gobject File
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gi/__init__.py, line 23, in modulefrom
._gi import _API, RepositoryImportError: could not import gobject (error was:
ImportError('When using gi.repository you must not import static modules like
gobject. Please change all occurrences of import gobject to from
gi.repository import GObject.',))
The problem: a new python-dbus library.In Oneiric, I have the Python dbus
0.84.0-2.With the new Ubuntu, it install: 1.0.0-1 and giveme that problem..
Downgrading the version of 1.0.0-1 to 0.84.0-2 (manually) the problem is
solved..
Someone know more about this? The ideal was the new library works good with all
oldcodes..
Regards!
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RE: offer of assistance: Java and Qt
Hi, Java is not installed on the XO, but can be installed. In Uruguay (that no have root access) we have this activity: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4285 That have al binaries into.. With this activity, you can use this other: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4284 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4323 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4303 an others.. Some of this activities, have all Java binaries into.. a waste of space.. Regards! Alan From: kap4...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 18:37:03 -0400 Subject: offer of assistance: Java and Qt To: devel@lists.laptop.org Hello there! My name is Karl, and I'm wondering if I can be of any (development) assistance. I know Linux, Java and, to a lesser extent, Qt. Please don't hesitate to give me a shout back, thank you! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Multi-laptop naming scheme for build files
1. single-character ID for product type. 'a' for XO-1, 'b' for XO-1.5, 'c' for XO-1.75, ... 2. build number 3. a . 4. extension e.g. 'a900.img' - build 900 copy-nand image for XO-1 'b900.zd4' - build 900 4GB image for XO-1.5 'c900.zd4' - build 900 4GB image for XO-1.75 Thoughts/other ideas? It's a good idea.. simple to remember easy (a, b, c...) Why use the build number? Not is better use the version of Sugar? Ex: os883 is Sugar 0.94.1and you need remember that 883 is 0.94... Only a idea... Regards! Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Multi-laptop naming scheme for build files
And this? o2b883.img that means:o (like a old 'os')2 (for XO 1) b (build)883 the number o for the image.. q for firmware... AlanDate: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:14:11 -0300 Subject: Re: Multi-laptop naming scheme for build files From: gonz...@laptop.org To: d...@laptop.org CC: devel@lists.laptop.org May be i2, i3,i4, i5, the id is the number. Gonzalo On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Why not use the same prexix as in the firmware: XO-3 = Q5 XO-1.75 = Q4 XO-1.5 = Q3 XO-1 = Q2 Is not better, but value is having a single convention. It could lead to confusion though - q2something.img (if that's what your suggesting) sounds very much like a firmware file by our current convention. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [IAEP] Butia 2.0 first tests
The most expensive is the motors.. We use Dynamixel AX-12.. The board: use a 18F pic that is relative cheap and the circuit can be made with your hands.. http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/mediawiki/index.php/Usb4butia ---Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:22:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Butia 2.0 first tests From: sthom...@gosargon.com To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: olpc-soc...@laptop.org; i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; de...@laptop.org Nice. What is the cost of making one of these and is there a parts list? Stephen On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, We have some progress with the butia 2.0 platform [1], including some related to the new board I / O USB4bot [2] Is working the motors of the robot, an example video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNf2aJUQSfk [1] http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/mediawiki/index.php/Butia2 [2] http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/mediawiki/index.php/Usb4butia Regards! Alan ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Grid keyboard
Hi, This keyboard seems more robust.. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150536964113124set=a.10150432289628124.353732.197253613123type=1theater It will be the default keyboard on XO 1.75? There are someone test of number of pulsations that resists? In Uruguay, the keyboard and the old touch mouse (with 3 panels) there are biggest problems... Regards! Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: XO Boot time battle
Good... but.. what image/firmware have each XO? All are recently flashed? My XO 1.0 not need that time to boot.. I will get the time.. Regards! Alan From: lio...@olpc-france.org To: support-g...@laptop.org; devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: XO Boot time battle Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 09:00:15 +0100 Hi all, Tuesday, at the monthly OLPC France meeting we made a comparison of the boot time from XO 1.75, XO 1.5 and XO 1.0.Have a look of the result on the video here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnt5rw_xo-boot-battle_tech Best regards from France. Lionel. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [Sugar-devel] Result of test activities on Sugar 0.94.1
Good! But now... someone will do something with this information? Or our work was for nothing? Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:31:14 -0800 From: satel...@bendbroadband.com To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: devel@lists.laptop.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; a...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Result of test activities on Sugar 0.94.1 Alan Hi - Today I added activity tests for XO-1 and XO-1.5 (os 883; sugar 0.94.1 ) here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix#Most_Recent-Activity_Test_Results These include many on the ASLOxo6-2 CD transferred to a 4GB USB-stick http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/ASLOxo6-2.iso I also entered some of the os883 0.94.1 activity testing results into a new column on your google spreadsheet. Cordially; Tom Giliard satellit_ on #sugar On 01/14/2012 06:15 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: Hi, Some days ago I make a complete list of the activities of the SugarLabs page... Now, I make a test of the activities that only have compatibility with old sugar (from 0.82 to 0.88) There are 81 activities that runs to 0.90 or 0.92 that need to be testeds. I think that this activities works good... Between 0.90 to 0.94 not are some changes in Sugar... Only test public activities. The experimental are 82. And without page: 38. Most of the activities run correct in 0.94.1 (Ensamble 883 - Firmware: Q2E48). The major problem is that sugar changes, and the developers can't follow the train... In some activities, when you use the mouse, and request it, the value x, y were integers.. now, are float.. the same problem in another things of the screen.. that waiting a integer and have a float.. I have an activity: Conozco Alimentos that have that problem.. When I make it, not have this problem.. In the I know America, I fix it... Another problem with SugarLabs page: you need make another version to can select between that Sugar works... Well.. the list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc The column enters means if you can enters to the activity: the red means that have error while load... or directly: not load never.. The column notes have the comments for each activity. When I said: log with some inecessary information I try to say that not are errors, but are some information that not are useful. I await your comments... Regards! Alan ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Result of test activities on Sugar 0.94.1
Hi, Some days ago I make a complete list of the activities of the SugarLabs page... Now, I make a test of the activities that only have compatibility with old sugar (from 0.82 to 0.88) There are 81 activities that runs to 0.90 or 0.92 that need to be testeds. I think that this activities works good... Between 0.90 to 0.94 not are some changes in Sugar... Only test public activities. The experimental are 82. And without page: 38. Most of the activities run correct in 0.94.1 (Ensamble 883 - Firmware: Q2E48). The major problem is that sugar changes, and the developers can't follow the train...In some activities, when you use the mouse, and request it, the value x, y were integers.. now, arefloat.. the same problem in another things of the screen.. that waiting a integer and have a float.. I have an activity: Conozco Alimentos that have that problem.. When I make it, not have thisproblem.. In the I know America, I fix it... Another problem with SugarLabs page: you need make another version to can select betweenthat Sugar works... Well.. the list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dHpvZHhLeGRQYzc1cDlRZU9Mc1NldGc The column enters means if you can enters to the activity: the red means that have error while load...or directly: not load never.. The column notes have the comments for each activity. When I said: log with some inecessary informationI try to say that not are errors, but are some information that not are useful. I await your comments... Regards! Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Result of test activities on Sugar 0.94.1
We should divide and conquer the broken activities... maybe a new column in your spread sheet where we can sign up to fix activities? I add one column with the title someone to fix it... And let to all can modify... In the case of my activity: Conozco Alimentos I can fix easy... I put my name in the column.. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [Sugar-devel] 883 on XO1
Having builds available via bittorrent or some other p2p tool would be very useful when the dev team in in China In China and everywhere... Now, I not good connection (i'm using a 3G modem) but I can make .torrent of 883 and another image... When I try to make .torrents... ever have problems with the trackers :-( Someone have experience? I think that is important have (at least) the last image in some P2P.. for the places that the connection is notgood.. Regards! Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [Sugar-devel] Sugar versions - Activities
It would be good to record the date fo last release. There could be translations committed to git but not in the release if it was a long time ago. This could be checked against the release date and the git log activity since. I add another column to my spreadsheet (1) called 'Last of:' that have the datewhen was uploaded the last version.. The numbers speak for themselves.. The average of days that the activities had is: 421,2 days!!! That means that some activities have 1 year of inactivity (inactivity = not new version) I attach a graphic with the age of each group of activities: 1 month or less: 23between 1 and 2:26between 2 and 3:29between 3 and 6:47between 6 and 12: 68moore than 1 year: 213 Regards! Alan (1) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dFJjNE9TemZUUGtzLVNEQnF4UlIwQkE attachment: activities-date.png___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Sugar versions - Activities
Hi, Working on my spreadshet (1) I thought this question If I have X version of Sugar.. How many activities are there? The answer.. In the image.. Until Sugar 0.88, I have all the activities.. after.. less... Regards! Alan 1) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dFJjNE9TemZUUGtzLVNEQnF4UlIwQkE attachment: sugar-versions.png___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Sugar versions - Activities
Probably many of them continue working in new Sugar versions, but didn't have a release in a long time. Yes.. May be a good work for a group of volunteers, is check the activities marked working in old versions, in a xo with 0.94, and report if they work, and then the compatibility info can be updated in ASLO. I can test some.. I have an XO with 0.94 (in fact, any version, is reflahsing with another image..) If I test some.. Where put the results? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: SugarLabs server - web page
I am confused. VisualMatch is red in your spreadsheet, but it has a page. What am I not understanding? I check again and find the error.. Was fixed... Another problem to fix? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [ASLO] SugarLabs server - web page
I don't know. I just noticed that one, which made me doubt the accuracy of the data. Was it automatically compiled? Automatically? No.. I make it, manually... Without permissions.. I only can read... ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs server - web page
Maybe.. cross information? The spreadsheet now have: number of the latest version and in which Sugar runs.. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dFJjNE9TemZUUGtzLVNEQnF4UlIwQkE We should check whether each activity works in the sugar it says, and if possible, try on a XO... Some activities runs on the new Sugar (0.94 or 0.96) but when was uploads, no had it option.. Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 07:15:11 -0800 From: satel...@bendbroadband.com To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: devel@lists.laptop.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; a...@lists.sugarlabs.org; walter.ben...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs server - web page I did a preliminary cut on this topic last year: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table#Activity_Test_Results It has not been updated This page was last modified on 1 November 2010, at 12:14. Tom Gilliard On 01/03/2012 08:20 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: Hi, Many times, I wondered, what activities had to Sugar page SL (SugarLabs). But when you are looking for, not is easily to find the activities that are not public. Furthermore, when adding a new activity, you do not know if there is already a similar (even the same) on the server. So I started making a list of everything I had in the server: http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/ Is a simple system: a folder for an activity and after, in the web, with the same number: the page of the activity. For example: the activity I know America was in the server in: http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/4464/ And in SugarLabs: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4464 When I check all the files, I encountered many interesting things.. Activities that did not even have a page on SL... Duplicate activities/files.. So we have supplemented the list with that information. In the first column, see the id that is automatically generated on the server. In the second column shows the name of the activity that is in that folder. In the spaces are blank, because there are no such folders on the server. In the column Notes are cases in which there are empty folders. The third column Page indicates the status of that activity in SL. Green means it is public. Orange means it is as Experimental. Red means there is no page for this activity! With the same color, I try to show the duplicate files.. Who is the maintainer of the site / server? File attached: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dFJjNE9TemZUUGtzLVNEQnF4UlIwQkE Regards Alan ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: USB permissions for educational robots
roughly speaking, we chose the dialout group because a) it's a traditional group for access to UNIX serial devices, b) many USB devices that activities need access to are actually serial devices, and c) the olpc user is already a member of dialout. is it important that Lego devices be protected by a separate group membership? No.. was only a idea... Seeing the Wiki appears this: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Robots/udev_rules In the article: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/11.2.0/Robotics_plan Can be add USB4all in the list? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/11.2.0/Robotics_plan#Dev_and_test_matrix the current udev rule isn't added by Sugar -- it's in the olpc-utils rpm distributed by OLPC. we can add a modified rule once we agree on what it should look like. +1___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
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SugarLabs server - web page
Hi, Many times, I wondered, what activities had to Sugar page SL (SugarLabs). But when you arelooking for, not is easily to find the activities that are not public. Furthermore, when adding anew activity, you do not know if there is already a similar (even the same) on the server.So I started making a list of everything I had in the server: http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/ Is a simple system: a folder for an activity and after, in the web, with the same number: thepage of the activity.For example: the activity I know America was in the server in: http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/4464/And in SugarLabs: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4464 When I check all the files, I encountered many interesting things..Activities that did not even have a page on SL... Duplicate activities/files..So we have supplemented the list with that information.In the first column, see the id that is automatically generated on the server. In the second columnshows the name of the activity that is in that folder. In the spaces are blank, because there are nosuch folders on the server. In the column Notes are cases in which there are empty folders.The third column Page indicates the status of that activity in SL. Green means it is public.Orange means it is as Experimental. Red means there is no page for this activity!With the same color, I try to show the duplicate files.. Who is the maintainer of the site / server? File attached: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dFJjNE9TemZUUGtzLVNEQnF4UlIwQkE Regards Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: SugarLabs server - web page
Thank you! I updated the document... From: cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:57:59 -0500 Subject: Re: SugarLabs server - web page To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: a...@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; walter.ben...@gmail.com I've added a column for L10n. ther are some uncertainties. tr.sl.o = our Pootle instance pending = awaiting upload to Pootle gnome = Gnome Damned Lies server cjl On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Many times, I wondered, what activities had to Sugar page SL (SugarLabs). But when you are looking for, not is easily to find the activities that are not public. Furthermore, when adding a new activity, you do not know if there is already a similar (even the same) on the server. So I started making a list of everything I had in the server: http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/ Is a simple system: a folder for an activity and after, in the web, with the same number: the page of the activity. For example: the activity I know America was in the server in: http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/4464/ And in SugarLabs: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4464 When I check all the files, I encountered many interesting things.. Activities that did not even have a page on SL... Duplicate activities/files.. So we have supplemented the list with that information. In the first column, see the id that is automatically generated on the server. In the second column shows the name of the activity that is in that folder. In the spaces are blank, because there are no such folders on the server. In the column Notes are cases in which there are empty folders. The third column Page indicates the status of that activity in SL. Green means it is public. Orange means it is as Experimental. Red means there is no page for this activity! With the same color, I try to show the duplicate files.. Who is the maintainer of the site / server? File attached: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AntaXnq4oy2_dFJjNE9TemZUUGtzLVNEQnF4UlIwQkE Regards Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
USB permissions for educational robots
Hi,
In a few of months, all our High Schools (of Uruguay) will receive and robotic
kit (Lego).
At Universidad de la República, Facultad de Ingeniería we are workingwith
it and the XO...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8HRbDLO7LM
In other parallel road, we are working on a 2.0 version of the Butia Robot
www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia
That uses USB4all IO board which resulted from a thesis given at ourUniversity
(also will have arduino compatibility)
http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/grupos/mina/pGrado/pgusb/
USB4all is based on 18f4550 pic.The vendor is Microchip,
SYSFS{idVendor}==04d8And have: productID=0x000b //bootloader
productID=0x000c //pic18f4550 generic comunication
The actual Sugar image, only have permissions for LEGO WeDo.
If you see in: /etc/udev/rules.d you find the correspondient:
30-olpc-wedo.rules.
The file add this rule:
SYSFS{idVendor}==0694, SYSFS{idProduct}==0003, GROUP=dialout, MODE=0660
This means: 0694 is LEGO 0003 the model: WeDo
To the NXT we need add: {idProduct}==0002
But, for each model add a new line.. not is a good form..
Exist another way, a generic rule:
BUS==usb, SYSFS{idVendor}==0694, GROUP=lego, MODE=0660
That says: if is USB and fabricated by 0694 (LEGO) lets 0660 (4: read+ 2: write)
If add this permissions to lego group, we need create it..
But, we don't make it, an use an existing group like root? Or another...
Suggestions?
We can make a generic group robot that have permissions for: lego wedo, lego
nxt, butia, etc...
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Happy new year / Feliz año
Happy new year! Feliz año nuevo! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uo0JAUWijM Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Reflashing
Hello, When you reflash an XO, how the process run? It skip a bad sectors? Or only copy all in all? Regards! Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Sugar Updater
I think the activity updater does not look for the last activity in ASLO,but to a wiki page created to every release. And probably the wiki page is not updated. If the latest activities are in ASLO.. why continue using the wiki and not directly check in ASLO ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Updater
updated applications in ASLO that will not run on older versions of Sugar I think that with all the information that has each activity in ASLO, the developerscan make a better updater... Each activity say: I can work on Sugar xx to xy If the XO is in the range of xx, xy this activity can be update.. easy to make! The manual form, go looking for activity by activity is a bit annoying.. I say this like an user: I like to get the latest versions of activities and more stable, in an easy and fast form ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [IAEP] Sugar tutorial video from Peru - Updater
Hi, Watching the video, I remembered a problem that happens often in multiple versions of Sugar (I have not tried in Sugar 0.94.2) The video XO has several activities outdated ..For example: Jukebox - Version: 19 - Latest: 23Speak - Version: 11 - Latest 34Browse - Version: 108 - Latest: 129TurtleArt - Version: 103 - Latest: 126TamTam Mini - Version: 52 - Latest: 61 and more ... And when to go to Update software .. the updater says: your software is updated !!! Anyone know how is running the updater? Regards Alan From: ber...@sugarlabs.org To: i...@lists.sugarlabs.org Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:29:46 -0500 CC: market...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: [IAEP] Sugar tutorial video from Peru A nice introduction to Sugar found in Peru's new image for the XO-1 which is based on OLPC OS 10.2: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team/Tutorials I also uploaded the video to DailyMotion, but I couldn't figure out how to make it work with the HTML5 player and add it to the sugar channel: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmfk2x_presentacion-sugar -- Bernie Innocenti Sugar Labs Infrastructure Team http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Infrastructure_Team ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Problems with import
For a while I'm trying to do something as simple as a try, except for imports in PythonI can not! Help! I have some code that uses the module Camera Pygame.This module is only in the new version of Pygame (1.9.1) My idea is: If Pygame 1.9.1 is installed, use it ..Otherwise, use a Pygame that I have a folder lib and compiled ... My code looks something like this: import sys try: import pygame import pygame from cameraexcept: del pygame sys.path.insert (0, 'lib') import pygameimport pygame from camera This code does not work, what am I doing wrong? The second import pygame should import first found in libbut continues to import that are in the system .. Why ?? If you just do: sys.path.insert (0, 'lib') import pygameimport pygame from camera The code import pygame from the folder lib Regards Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Activities won't auto-install from USB bundles folder onto 11.3.0?
Battery removal? I never listen it... When reflashing.. you don't need electrical power... But.. to update the firmware yes... You connect it to the electrician? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:41:53 +1100 From: qu...@laptop.org To: h...@laptop.org Subject: Re: Activities won't auto-install from USB bundles folder onto 11.3.0? CC: michael.r.st...@gmail.com; support-g...@laptop.org; de...@laptop.org I know that battery removal is required after reflashing XO-1 from certain older versions. Perhaps that was it. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Activities won't auto-install from USB bundles folder onto 11.3.0?
Yes... Exactly! Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:22:41 +1100 From: qu...@laptop.org To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: h...@laptop.org; michael.r.st...@gmail.com; support-g...@laptop.org; de...@laptop.org Subject: Re: Activities won't auto-install from USB bundles folder onto 11.3.0? I don't understand what you mean, sorry. I shall repeat in more detail. 1. before reflashing, you must provide battery, with good state of charge, and external DC power from power supply, 2. after reflashing, you may need to turn the laptop off, remove the battery, remove external DC power cable, wait a few seconds, and then insert the battery. Step 2 is optional, and depends on the old version and new version. I've seen some laptops where it was necessary, and some laptops where it was not necessary. On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 06:13:51AM +, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: Battery removal? I never listen it... When reflashing.. you don't need electrical power... But.. to update the firmware yes... You connect it to the electrician? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:41:53 +1100 From: qu...@laptop.org To: h...@laptop.org Subject: Re: Activities won't auto-install from USB bundles folder onto 11.3.0? CC: michael.r.st...@gmail.com; support-g...@laptop.org; de...@laptop.org I know that battery removal is required after reflashing XO-1 from certain older versions. Perhaps that was it. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Serial adapter
Hello, I'm from Uruguay... Where can I find this adapter? http://wiki.laptop.org/images/2/27/Serial_adapter_3.png Only I find similars in e-Bay... Which another adapter works with XO 1.0, 1.5 and 1.75 ??With free shipping to Uruguay :-) Regards Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: toolchain for sugarizing local browser apps, game jam
Hi, You can use JAVA. With this activity: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4285you can use any program in Java... For example, this activity uses this bundle to run: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4303 Regards Alan Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:21:45 +1300 Subject: toolchain for sugarizing local browser apps, game jam From: object...@gmail.com To: devel@lists.laptop.org Hi guys. Currently in Auckland, NZ now. Went to the game developer meetup last night and tossed the idea of an OLPC game jam for students and pro/hobbyist game developers to Stephen Knightly (chairperson of the NZ Game Developers Association - http://twitter.com/sknightly ) Problem is that there aren't enough Python coders and not everyone has the luxury of learning python. Perhaps other platforms that can run on the XO? For you guys who've been doing this, like in Nepal, Is there any good documentation out there for Sugarizing Javascript/CSS/Canvas/HTML5 apps or any web bundles (Java applet/Flash applet packages) in general? Something that people with *zero* Python experience and who work on Windows Mac can use. Another reason I'm big on cross-platform stuff for the XO is that so OLPC kids do not become digital 2nd hand digital citizens - they should be able to enjoy the same apps the cool rich kids use. We're looking at a possible pitch for the idea to at the auckland game dev meetup on January as a talk. Game jams are big right now, esp with http://ludumdare.com and for people who're into the demo scene http://scene.org instead of building some stuff just to show off mad skillz for free anyway, how about tapping them and building stuff for kids? Even interactive digital art stuff? Hope everyone is well, -Naz -- carlos nazareno http://twitter.com/object404 http://www.object404.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Version 3 of I know America
Hi, Of course! I can do an I know India... A first version is possible in 3 weeks.. with the general map of India..make each state (there are 28?) has more work ... This is a good map to make the activity??? Or you have a better one? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/India-states-numbered.svg Regards! Alan Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:54:24 +0530 Subject: Re: Version 3 of I know America From: administra...@kmrfoundation.org To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: alan...@gmail.com; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; somosazu...@lists.sugarlabs.org; olpc-boli...@lists.laptop.org; grassro...@lists.laptop.org; i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; boli...@lists.ole.org; support-g...@laptop.org; olpc-soc...@googlegroups.com; olpc-in...@googlegroups.com; olpc-o...@laptop.org; i...@laptop.org.au; volunt...@laptop.org.au; olpc-urug...@lists.laptop.org; olpc-...@lists.laptop.org; olpcp...@gmail.com; squeakfest2...@googlegroups.com Hi fantastic work!!! just I would like to know if you could help us with the map of India and other related area just like what you have done with the flags etc--if we provide you with all necesary basic data. vasantha KMRF On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: ENGLISH: (Español abajo) Hi, I just uploaded version 3 I know America.This version adds to the 29 countries (now there are 30), Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, which recently launched an OLPC deployment: http://education.gov.vc/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=125Itemid=107 Anyone know anything more about that? Also fixes a translation. There are more mistakes to be corrected, but they will be fixing over time. The activity page is: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4464 And the direct link: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27679/conozco_america-3.xo Any suggestions, critical, error, please send me a email... Regards Alan - ESPAÑOL: (English up) Hola, Acabo de subir la versión 3 de Conozco América.Esta versión agrega a los 29 países (ahora son 30), San Vicente y Granadinas, que recientemente inició una implementación de OLPC: http://education.gov.vc/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=125Itemid=107 Alguien sabe algo mas acerca de eso? Además corrige una traducción. Hay mas errores que corregir, pero se irán arreglando con el tiempo. La página de la actividad es: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4464 El link directo: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27679/conozco_america-3.xo Cualquier sugerencia, crítica, error, por favor envienme un email.. Saludos Alan -- Vasantha Srinivasan Administrator KMR Foundation 9951532000. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Version 3 of I know America
ENGLISH: (Español abajo) Hi, I just uploaded version 3 I know America.This version adds to the 29 countries (now there are 30),Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, which recently launched an OLPC deployment: http://education.gov.vc/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=125Itemid=107 Anyone know anything more about that? Also fixes a translation. There are more mistakes to be corrected,but they will be fixing over time. The activity page is: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4464 And the direct link: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27679/conozco_america-3.xo Any suggestions, critical, error, please send me a email... Regards Alan - ESPAÑOL: (English up) Hola, Acabo de subir la versión 3 de Conozco América.Esta versión agrega a los 29 países (ahora son 30),San Vicente y Granadinas, que recientemente inició una implementación de OLPC: http://education.gov.vc/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=125Itemid=107 Alguien sabe algo mas acerca de eso? Además corrige una traducción. Hay mas errores que corregir,pero se irán arreglando con el tiempo. La página de la actividad es: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4464 El link directo: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27679/conozco_america-3.xo Cualquier sugerencia, crítica, error, por favor envienme un email.. Saludos Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
TuxPaint
Hi, today I maked an activity with 5 years old childrens..First, make a collage of an airplane...After.. paint it in the TuxPaint activity... When I want to make new (to select an pre-existed images, like the airplane) the activityshow the little clock for some minutes! The childrens, and I, lose the patience... What happend? Is for the type of that images? (there are .png, but there are some .svg)The activity have much time in re-scale or processing it? Is important report this like an bug? I use an XO 1.0 from Uruguay with Dextrosa (Sugar 0.88.1) Regards Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Downgrading firmware
Hello! I want to downgrading the firmware of an XO 1.0 for the Q2E45 to Q2E41... The information in the Wiki I don't understand... Is an secure laptop (not have Ok prompt).. Regards Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: How to disabled xo security without developers key
Hello! You can use this: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Setting_up_a_collection_stick to recolect all Serial Number and UUID from your 30 XO-1.After, you can get all developer keys at time... And if you don't like it.. You can use the Serial Port on the XO... No? Regards Alan Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:50:17 +0530 Subject: How to disabled xo security without developers key From: ganeshga...@gmail.com To: devel@lists.laptop.org Hello, I am deploying more than 30 XO-1 in a village where I don't have Internet facility. I have to update the firmware of all the XO. Currently all XO-1 has q2e41 firmware version, which has to be updated to q2e46. Till q2e41 usually we don't need OK prompt, because it was providing bootfw.zip file. In next versions of q2e4 series they don't provide bootfw.zip file, only .rom firmware.rom file. Without OK prompt we are not able to apply commands to run firmware update, because it needs developers key to unlock or make XO unsecured mode. Can anyone tell me how to get OK prompt without developers key?? -- Ganesh (Dragger) Be a FOSSERS, use GNU/Linux ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Sad face
Hello! XO shows whether the message that the time is incorrect and show a sad face ... There is an easy way to fix it? I'm not have a root permissions... Regards Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
I know America 2
ENGLISH: (Español abajo) Hello! Yesterday was published version 2 of I know America. After 1 month and 7300 downloads .. This version was ready. I have received thousands of emails with congratulations, but I want reviews! I think more useful .. although not bad thanks welcome ... The only way to improve something is in critical ... I was on Thursday and Friday with people from the University of Loja, Ecuador and I had 2 corrections I made about some names of 2 provinces Ecuador. Changes in this version are: - Fixed problems with scaling on different machines to XO: for example, the JumPC. The problem was with the bar scores and progress. Also in the displayed text during the presentation. - Corrected the name of two provinces of Ecuador. - You end up translating the statistics into English. - Small fixes are also conducted in other translations. - Added: self.max_participants = 1 - Added bar breakthrough that will show the progress of the game. - Added image of the screen JP about. - The complete statistics for all countries. - Changed datos.png. It is now replaced by bandera.png (which save the country flag). - Created estadisticas.txt. This file stores information that is shown in the browse mode. - Added the ability to jump, enabling the Back button, animation to say goodbye. - When you are wrong, showed support but I did not show question. Now shows the question below shows the help. - Added button Show all in the browse mode. For now is all .. I welcome your criticism! Alan ESPAÑOL: Hola! Ayer se hizo pública la versión 2 de Conozco América.Después de 1 mes y 7300 descargas.. Quedó lista esta versión.He recibido miles de mails con felicitaciones, pero quiero críticas!Creo mas útiles.. aunque los agradecimientos no son mal bienvenidos...La única forma de mejorar algo es con críticas...Estuve el jueves y viernes con gente de la Universidad de Loja, Ecuadory me dieron 2 correcciones que hice sobre unos nombres de 2 provinciasde Ecuador.Los cambios de esta versión son: - Se corrige problemas con el escalado en máquinas distintas a la XO: como por ejemplo, la JumPC. El problema era con la barrade puntajes y de la de avance. También en el texto mostradodurante la presentación. - Se corrige el nombre de 2 provincias de Ecuador.- Se termina de traducir las estadísticas al inglés.- También se realizan pequeños arreglos en otras traducciones.- Se agrega: self.max_participants = 1- Se agrega barra de avance que va mostrando el avance del juego.- Se agrega imágen de JP a la pantalla acerca de.- Se completan las estadísticas para todos los países.- Se cambia datos.png. Ahora es sustituido por bandera.png (queguarda la bandera del país correspondiente).- Se crea estadisticas.txt. Este archivo guarda información que esmostrada en el modo exploro.- Se agrega la posibilidad de saltearse, habilitando el botón Regresar,la animación de la despedida.- Cuando uno se equivocaba, mostraba la ayuda pero no volvía a mostrarla pregunta. Ahora muestra la pregunta y debajo muestra laayuda.- Se agrega botón Mostrar todo en el modo explorar. Por ahora es todo.. espero sus críticas!!! Alan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [Butia-list] [Sur] Video Ceibal 2011
Si Paolo, le venden al mundo que están por utilizar ese tipo de robots... Pero en la realidad es que tienen unos LEGOpara usar.. Es algo que no entiendo... Si van a usar LEGO.. muestren LEGO y no un proyecto que dejaron fuera... Y además de dejarloafuera, lo usan mientras logran hacer andar los LEGO con las XO CEIBAL... Aflojá... Saludos Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:06:37 -0300 From: nanon...@mediagala.com To: olpc-...@lists.laptop.org CC: alan...@hotmail.com; devel@lists.laptop.org; butia-l...@fing.edu.uy; olpc-urug...@lists.laptop.org; bu...@fing.edu.uy Subject: Re: [Butia-list] [Sur] Video Ceibal 2011 On 20/08/2011 12:01 a.m., Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: Video institucional de Ceibal - Version 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btjtTaUWxuk - Muy bueno el video, exceptuando algunas partes chistosas (por así decirlo). Me refiero a la parte que hablan de los Robots- Si no me equivoco, en una toma aparece el Robot Butiá. Si el Robot que aparece en el video es un Robot Butiá, me parece una real tomada de pelo, es mas o menos como si Microsoft hiciese una publicidad de sus productos y muestran en pantalla una maquina con Linux... sin palabras... Paolo Benini ___ Butia-list site list butia-l...@fing.edu.uy https://www.fing.edu.uy/mailman/listinfo/butia-list ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Sugar and GTK updates
I always wondered why not put an SD of 2 instead of 1, suppose that production costs differ in nothing (or very little) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:49:53 -0400 Subject: Sugar and GTK updates From: kgordon...@gmail.com To: devel@lists.laptop.org Folks: I have been watching the flurry of emails and updates to the Sugar activities, the discussion surrounding including more rpm's in Sugar, and the desired OLPC upgrading of GTK discussions with interest. My concern is that feature creep, and with concurrent support dependency increases, it could make the footprint and hardware requirements so large on an XO-1, that it becomes untenable. Has there been discussion as to when the development cycle might stop for the older XO-1's, (perhaps strawmanning in as F14 with .94), so that this innovation and progress can continue on the more modern platforms? Or, perhaps have OS builds for the newer releases for an XO-1 be tailored to (and insist on) a configuration woih an SD card of at least 2Gb, with 256Mb of swap, to be installed on an XO-1? While this wouldn't address any issues wrt the small main memory, or video performance, it might alleviate some of the footprint size and swap thrashing concerns that might arise. A 2Gb SD card is a pretty cheap h/w upgrade, imo. Perhaps I've just missed the discussion and all this is already handled. Wouldn't be the first time :-) Just curious. Cheers KG ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Sugar and GTK updates
Thank's for the information... I did not know... Alan From: c...@laptop.org To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: Sugar and GTK updates Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:33:16 -0400 Hi, On Tue, Aug 16 2011, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: I always wondered why not put an SD of 2 instead of 1, suppose that production costs differ in nothing (or very little) The XO-1 isn't manufactured anymore. When it was manufactured, it used bare NAND rather than an SD card, and the cost of 2G of bare NAND was significantly more expensive than 1G of bare NAND. - Chris. -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org http://printf.net/ One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Sugar Commander
I just want to say: I agree... To: moku...@earthtreasury.org Subject: Re: Sugar Commander Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:23:42 -0700 From: g...@toad.com CC: devel@lists.laptop.org; walter.ben...@gmail.com; object...@gmail.com I'm sorry, I don't mean to ruffle any feathers, but the flat journal is a really broken model when you stick in a USB stick with 2000+ The flat journal worked great on 8 floppies. It was obsoleted in 1982 or so. The whole emphasis on the journal as filesystem interface was another of those grand OLPC experiments. Unfortunately, unlike the mesh, its failure was not followed by junking it and replacing it with what every other computer does -- what works. This journalism religion is also a major reason why kids can't read or edit the source code of the OLPC -- because it isn't visible in a journal, and if it was in there, it would be painful or impossible to find or organize. Yes! The new Unity 2D UI that Ubuntu defaults to makes the same decision, and it works well. It works so well that I won't be using Ubuntu in the next release, because they are forcing everyone to run Unity, I think on the theory that if they force enough people to use it, some of them will fix all the bugs and misfeatures in it. Unfortunately for them, this is not a market where they have any power to compel users; we'll just go elsewhere. John ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
Hi Gary, Complicated! ;) As to why there is no 'don't save', well a couple of points: 1) the Journal was designed to be a log of activity not just a flat list of saved data files, it would be great to have more interesting metadata auto stored (e.g. length of time spent in activity, number of times resumed), and/or to be able to better encourage the child to write short descriptions about what they were doing for later review (e.g. I searched google for cool pictures of sharks with lasers, for my school essay, but didn't find one I liked.). Yes, in theory. I am Uruguayan. I have seen thousands of XO .. No one uses the journal that way, the little disk space (1 GB 400 MB are available) and when you have hundreds of entries, and begins to complicate, to walk slower. And the problem of find nothing is repeated often. Cause: You may need to teach children the proper use of labels. But the kids out of an activity and never notice that ... I have come across many machines you have to reflash because it does not leave or enter the newspaper to delete things (in old sugar images, in this new I not do a stress test) ... 2) The naming dialogue was added as an opportunity for the child to provide a useful name, description and tags when they stop a new activity instance. The activity state will very likely havebeen already automatically stored in the Journal (e.g. activity state is stored in the Journal whenever you switch views). So the 'don't save' button would really be an 'erase this entry from the journal' button. Changing the implementation of the saved, change this too FWIW, there is already an accepted design for dropping this naming dialogue (at least one deployment has already removed it from their builds) as the psychology of a user who has just clicked 'Stop' is one of get me out of here, I want to do something else now, not I would like to describe what I was just doing, most folks seem to skips past the dialogue as fast as they can, annoyed/distracted by the interruption. The replacement design is a system wide 'detail view' dialogue (similar features as per the current Journal details view) that can be opened at the users discretion while working in an activity. most folks seem to skips past the dialogue as fast as they can, annoyed/distracted by the interruptionYes, I'm agree. Also is annoying is to have the obligation (not freedom) the save something .. For example, when I use the Activity Maze, entered to play at level 1. When I return to the entrance that, start in 1! That's the point? Many of the activities create an entry habit, butbear no relevant information, and generate an endless list of meaningless entries(knowing that no labels are used). In addition, save the entries as a record of what thechild does (one kind of blog, journal) in practice is not viable .. Maybe I'm wrong .. Thanks for taking the time to write some feedback, hope the above was of some help. Regards,--Gary Alan Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:26:42 -0300 Subject: Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review From: gonz...@laptop.org To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: d...@laptop.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; support-g...@laptop.org On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm down the new version ... When you leave an activity, a window appears that asks the name of the journal entry.. Is like this? (capture01.png) Why is not this? (capture02.png) God question. What is your idea about the X icon? Do not close the activity? There are times when I accidentally close one activity and think about this. Close the activity without saving? Some activities don't save any relevant information in the journal... All the time, I used an activity, exit of it, click on the 'tick' button to save the entry in the journal and need to delete it... If one activity does not save relevant information and save to the Journal, is a bug in the activity. Can you point to the failing activities? Is important remember the window is opened only when you start a new instance of the activity and by default you restart the last instance. Gonzalo Give to the users the freedom to save or not the entry, as in any system... I think in this... It's possible? A very small change... Alan Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:32:50 +0100 Subject: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review From: d...@laptop.org To: devel@lists.laptop.org Hi, The 11.2.0 release notes are now ready for review by the OLPC team and by any other interested contributors: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0 Feedback needed quickly, as the release is imminent. cheers Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Pulse Sensor: an Open Source Heart-rate Sensor that Rocks by Yury Gitman � Kickstarter
Hi, Guzman (in Uruguay) make an prototipe that run on XO with the Turtle Art Activity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y69Mu1SDXDk Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:28:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Re: Pulse Sensor: an Open Source Heart-rate Sensor that Rocks by Yury Gitman � Kickstarter From: walter.ben...@gmail.com To: fors...@ozonline.com.au CC: devel@lists.laptop.org So cool. -walter On 7/20/11, fors...@ozonline.com.au fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: I have a partially complete refactoring of the camera code that should speed things up; in the meantime, I wonder if a simple resistive light sensor run through the mic input wouldn't do just as well. A cadmium sulphide photoresistor (ORP12 equivalent) worked OK measuring resistance in Turtle art Cover cell with little finger and hold near bright light. Pulse gives +-50 ohms in 3000 ohms. Screenshot attached -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: Pulse Sensor: an Open Source Heart-rate Sensor that Rocks by Yury Gitman � Kickstarter
Hi Yes, the TurtleArt is slow to capture because it turn on the camera, wait for the pipeline, get a captureand save to the disk.. And after, the code load the image and analize it! I make a plugin to the TurtleArt, that was derivated for another project... It uses Pygame 1.9.1 (included in the plugin) that get a captures very fast... The actual code is for detect a color and calibrate the code to follow this color... But is possible tomodify and make another things... The algorithm that detect the promedial color of a zone of a image is implemented by Pygame... The code: http://butia.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=butia/butia;a=tree;f=followme_plugin;hb=HEAD The same code in a .xo activity called FollowMe Butia is used to control the Butia Robot... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nnc9Rn9GbY It's possible make anything with this? Alan To: sve...@sfsu.edu From: fors...@ozonline.com.au Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:33:49 +1000 Subject: Re: Pulse Sensor: an Open Source Heart-rate Sensor that Rocks by Yury Gitman � Kickstarter CC: devel@lists.laptop.org Hi You can do something similar by placing a finger over the camera and shining a light on your finger. Unfortunately TurtleArt is a little slow to capture your pulse, the following executes a cycle in about 0.5 sec on a XO1.5 forever show camera read pixel show heap empty heap This prints the rgb of one pixel centre image ( which is OK because the image is out of focus) forever print brightness averages over the image and takes round 2 seconds Tony http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1342192419/pulse-sensor-an-open-source-heart-rate-sensor-that Minus the Arduino, can this plug into the audio/mic port? Sameer ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
Hi, I'm down the new version ... When you leave an activity, a window appears that asks the name of the journal entry.. Is like this? (capture01.png) Why is not this? (capture02.png) Some activities don't save any relevant information in the journal... All the time, I used an activity, exit of it, click on the 'tick' button tosave the entry in the journal and need to delete it... Give to the users the freedom to save or not the entry, as in any system... I think in this... It's possible? A very small change... Alan Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:32:50 +0100 Subject: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review From: d...@laptop.org To: devel@lists.laptop.org Hi, The 11.2.0 release notes are now ready for review by the OLPC team and by any other interested contributors: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0 Feedback needed quickly, as the release is imminent. cheers Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel attachment: capture01.pngattachment: capture02.png___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review
The idea of the X is not save the entry.. to avoid a shutdown by mistake could add the classic triangle of return ... The final windows may be with 3 options: Triangle: return to the activity (The problem is that usually the activity is closed) Cross: don't save the entry in the journal.. Tick: save the entry It's a simple system, no? Or is't complicated? Alan Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:26:42 -0300 Subject: Re: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review From: gonz...@laptop.org To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: d...@laptop.org; devel@lists.laptop.org; support-g...@laptop.org On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm down the new version ... When you leave an activity, a window appears that asks the name of the journal entry.. Is like this? (capture01.png) Why is not this? (capture02.png) God question. What is your idea about the X icon? Do not close the activity? There are times when I accidentally close one activity and think about this. Close the activity without saving? Some activities don't save any relevant information in the journal... All the time, I used an activity, exit of it, click on the 'tick' button to save the entry in the journal and need to delete it... If one activity does not save relevant information and save to the Journal, is a bug in the activity. Can you point to the failing activities? Is important remember the window is opened only when you start a new instance of the activity and by default you restart the last instance. Gonzalo Give to the users the freedom to save or not the entry, as in any system... I think in this... It's possible? A very small change... Alan Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:32:50 +0100 Subject: 11.2.0 release notes ready for review From: d...@laptop.org To: devel@lists.laptop.org Hi, The 11.2.0 release notes are now ready for review by the OLPC team and by any other interested contributors: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.2.0 Feedback needed quickly, as the release is imminent. cheers Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
